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I've owned two Android phones and been to several Verizon, att and sprint stores to test different phones.
It feels like only HTC Android phones are smooth. Other phones like Droid, Droid X, Droid 2 or Galaxy S, they all feel laggy and awkward. Even though HTC's hardware is probably the weakest. Motorola and Samsung have great screen and CPU in the phone, but they feel laggier than HTC's small Aria.
Is it just me?
No pal,you're not alone.
Both Motorola and Samsung must hire better software engineers for their UIs.Samsung's TouchWiz is crap and Motorola didn't even bother bringing a custom UI to their flagship device(the Droid X).It's not only the lag.Sense is also much more user friendly and nicer to work with.I was between the Galaxy S and the Desire and finally got the Desire because of it's software.I haven't even rooted it and am extremely happy with it.Now I'll wait for the next-gen of smartphones!
My captivate doesn't lag, not sure what you mean? As far as UI goes, you can replace them at any time so why let that be a deciding factor, unless you just love sense that is.
I will say however that I am stuck with att and had a hard time choosing between the captivate (samsung) and the aria (htc), but in the end I had to go with the bigger phone/processor. I guess the fact that I had any kind of hesitation picking between the two shows you just how good htc phones are, as the aria is not nearly as powerful as galaxy s, but it's still very VERY appealing!
Ricparr said:
My captivate doesn't lag
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Well, I am using Captivate now and it is laggy. And I am sure I am not alone if you look at some of the forum posts.
If you try any of the HTC phones, you'll definitely feel it's much smoother than the powerful Galaxy S.
Not arguing here, just curious what you mean by lag? I don't doubt your word at all, and I've read many lag complaints for sure but mine simply doesn't, or I'm not looking at it right.
This would also seem to fit right in with all the other issues on galaxy s devices that seem to vary by user. It makes me nervous about this phone and wonder if I shouldn't think about a different device...but I already have a backflip, this captivate, so that leaves me with the aria. Hmmmmmm...
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The Aria is considerably below the Galaxy S hardware-wise.
I could have chosen a Desire from my carrier, but went for the Galaxy S and am not really regretting it (admittedly I might have been unhappier if I was a heavy user of GPS).
The lag is, as far as I know, the phone pausing (at a black screen, often) for a while, usually when loading programs. I've not found it to be a major problem myself, and there are now one-click lag-fixes available for Galaxy S devices as workarounds if you do find it to be one.
Hopefully both will be resolved by the time we get Froyo!
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Not arguing here, just curious what you mean by lag?
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It's the response time of your press. It's the transition between screens. Even though Galaxy S or Droid X is powerful, you will still have the delayed response every now and then. Or you will have some delayed transition animation.
It's not bad to use. It's just not as good as HTC's smooth experience. For me, iPhone still has the smoothest UI transitions and responses. HTC is the second. Sadly, Samsung and Motorola, with the best hardware, have the worst UI experience. Something is wrong with their software development.
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The Aria is considerably below the Galaxy S hardware-wise.
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Yet Aria has never had lag issue. I've used Aria for a month and it was as smooth as you can expect from any big phone!
But I immediately feel laggy in galaxy s and Droid series. The screen becomes unresponsive when market is downloading and installing an app. Delayed response when pressing a button... Slow transition animation...
I think HTC is more committed to Android than other manufacturers. HTC has the most Android phones (right?) and they might have the most experience working with Google. Motorola and Samsung just started their series of Android. I think they rush themselves into this fast-growing market after seeing the success of HTC.
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Yet Aria has never had lag issue. I've used Aria for a month and it was as smooth as you can expect from any big phone!
But I immediately feel laggy in galaxy s and Droid series. The screen becomes unresponsive when market is downloading and installing an app. Delayed response when pressing a button... Slow transition animation...
I think HTC is more committed to Android than other manufacturers. HTC has the most Android phones (right?) and they might have the most experience working with Google. Motorola and Samsung just started their series of Android. I think they rush themselves into this fast-growing market after seeing the success of HTC.
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ah, yes I see. Indeed it does seem unresponsive during a market install, and since I don't keep many apps installed, that may be why I haven't seen any home-screen sluggishness. I think what may be afoot here, is that since I have only owned 2 android devices, the first being the backflip (...), then I simply didn't even know that the sluggishness was there. Seriously. The speed/smoothness/experience on my captivate is so much better than my backflip that I was immune. lol. I really am considering going for the aria instead though, if samsung doesn't hurry up and fix the gps issue and other minor annoyances. Anyone think I have lost my mind to trade a captivate for the aria considering I don't really game on my device or demand the potential power it has?
That's false x10 has a nice UI even though I admire HTC sense, its better than LG or Samsung's UI
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Try autokiller from the market to help w/ lag, it's really great!!!!!!!
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Anyone think I have lost my mind to trade a captivate for the aria considering I don't really game on my device or demand the potential power it has?
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It's just impossible to go back to Aria after Captivate's huge and beautiful screen...
HTC will be the apple on the Android market...
Everyone will get a Galaxy Super S or a Droid XXX (because of the superior hardware), but at the end they will be all dreaming with a desire
Seriously, i think that has something to do with the developers, the G1 was the first android cellphone, and yes, it was a HTC
To me, the only way to enjoy Android is with a vanilla ROM (best performance) with Launcher Pro. Can't stand Sense, Blur, or Wiz.
Part of the reason the Aria feels smoother than some of these higher end phones is because it doesn't have to render anywhere close to as many pixels. The Aria is pushing 154 thousand pixels (320x480) while the high end phones are pushing 384-410 thousand pixels. Even the Incredible and Evo don't feel as smooth as the Aria. The iPhone is smooth because its entire UI is GPU accelerated. Once GPU acceleration is enabled for the Android UI (think Gingerbread, 3.0) everything will be much smoother, especially on high end phones with nice GPUs like the Droid X and Galaxy S. The Aria won't even be getting Android 3.0, so its days of feeling smoother than the high end phones are limited.
For what it's worth, I have LauncherPro installed on my Captivate and live wallpapers disabled and everything is very smooth and snappy. The GPS issues are my only complaint right now, but I think it's a software problem and Samsung will come through within the next month or two. After playing with my Captivate for a week, I picked up the Aria and its screen seemed dull and extremely TINY. Web browsing, gaming, and watching videos are all a million times better on the Captivate. Basically, things that tax the CPU or GPU a lot are where the Aria chokes.
Hey everyone,
Just joined the forums, and figured I'd earn myself a warm welcome by asking a question that I'm positive no one has asked before: Vibrant, G2 or myTouch HD?
I do have certain criteria that I'd like to share, as I've spent many hours reading up on the three phones. Here's my take on the three phones so far based on what's important to me:
Samsung Vibrant
Likes
AMOLED screen is amazing
16GB built in storage is great
Battery life sounds decent
Lightweight
Speaker is great
Fast CPU
Dislikes
Not stock Android, not sure how crippled 2.2 will be on it
Not sure if it will tether when 2.2 comes out
No HSPA+
Can't store applications on SD card
Sounds like OTA updates have caused issues
Bloatware
G2
Likes
Almost stock Android 2.2
HSPA+
QWERTY keyboard is handy
Tethering supported after OTA update
Can store applications on an SD card
Dislikes
Screen is good, not great
Battery life questionable based on what I've read
Speaker is not very good
Not sure if 800Mhz CPU will show its age sooner rather than later
4GB (1.2GB usable) is a bummer
Can't remove some preinstalled Google applications
myTouch HD (what I've found on spec reports)
Likes
Fast CPU
HSPA+
Nearly stock Android
Front facing camera
Screen sounds like it will be better than the G2's but not as good as the Vibrant's
Dislikes
Battery life? Sounds like it could be not so great
Not sure how good the speaker will be, sounds like HTC doesn't do great in this department
Sounds like it has the same 4GB/1.2GB of the G2 so far
So, as you can see, I can find something to love and hate in all three. I'd like to hear comments regarding perhaps why you chose one over another. I'm also very curious to hear more about the myTouch, because right now I'm working off speculation.
I'm not looking for any of you to read my mind, but I am curious to hear others compare and contrast the three and share their preferences.
Vibrant or MyTouch.
The vibrants screen will amaze you. Its like an orgasm ona screen. Plus there's a mod for a front facing camera. Plus there's roms with vanilla android so its not bad.
The battery life is great.
The mytouch HD sounds good. So I'd wait for it in case
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The more that I've read, I'm leaning more towards the G2. It sounds like several people get a couple days before having to recharge, and that people have been able to prevent the preloaded software from booting via the package manager.
Also, I just read that it sounds like the myTouch will have HTC Sense which, while not a bad thing, is a blocker to fast updates. I'd like to be able to upgrade to Gingerbread as soon as it's available, and it sounds like the G2 is the only phone (besides the Nexus One) that's going to be able to do that easily.
Finally, after reading up on the JI6 battery issues on the Vibrant, as well as the Mini Kies software that people are now having to run via Windows to get updates, it gives me a little less faith in Samsung.
I am still very curious to hear others speak about the speaker and the resetting issue on the G2.
Things you cannot change in a phone or upgrade are; screen, memory, processor. you have all of them as dislike or concern on hd or g2.
Your concern in regards of the vibrant, seem to be sw related. Being a Galaxy S phone. You have i believe, the larger group of modders, developers working on it worldwide, to get you a large array of options to upgrade, fix, or just show off your phone.
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Chazz Thanks for posting the poll! I'm looking at a very similar predicament in replacing my Mytouch 3G (32B). At this point, I'm not sure if the MyTouch HD will have the capabilities that I'll want on it (SIPphone, Tether, ability to modify simple things like boot animations).
Vibrant biggest benefit (to me)- Can be rooted, tethered
MyTouch HD biggest foreseeable benefit - HSPA+, native 2.2
Just to add my 2c, The CPU in the G2 is actually faster than the Vibrant and MyTouch HD. 800MHz doesn't mean a thing, it's a new gen. CPU and it currently gets the highest scores of ANY mobile CPU out there.
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Just to add my 2c, The CPU in the G2 is actually faster than the Vibrant and MyTouch HD. 800MHz doesn't mean a thing, it's a new gen. CPU and it currently gets the highest scores of ANY mobile CPU out there.
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If you look around you will see that the MyTouch HD/4G actually has the same Generation (45nm? I think) CPU in it, but the MyTouch will be clocked to 1GHz by default. If the MyTouch can be rooted I think that will convince me fully. I can always sell it in 6 months when something better comes out, 'cause it will.
Side note, the G2 and the MyTouch are only on T-Mobile. The Z (Sense version of G2) might come to another American provider.
Unconnected.
I love my g2's speakers. I use them all the time with slacker radio. I'd also like to add that the g2 also supports wifi tethering once rooted using the free visionary app in the market. (One click root) And like what was mentioned above you can overclock the processor to out due any phone on the market. I will admit that vibrant screen is nice but that thing has to take up lots of battery. Oh i almost forgot the keyboard is awesome aswell. The Froyo 2. 2 is nice and very smooth. Has the vibrant gotten the GPS issue fixed?
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Anyone else have any thoughts on these two (G2 and Mytouch) phones? I am on the verge of ditching my Vibrant (laundry list of issues spanning 4 phones) for either the G2 or Mytouch4G.
As both are HTC phones and fairly close in specs and build quality, does one have any real distinct advantage over the other? While I will certainly miss the Vibrant's screen, can't say I'll miss the dodgy Samsung support.
Not sure what section to put this in.
I have a chance to get one of these 3 phones. With contract.
I really like the G2 but, want to get the experts recommendations of these 3 phones.
I haven't used anyone of these phones. I do use an HD2 dual booting.
Pros and Cons for all phones and user experience would help me decide.
Thanks
First off i say stay away from the vibrant. Not thst its a bad phone, i personally dont like samsung (returned my epic after 3 days.) As you can see in my sig my current phones include a nexus one, HD2, HD7, and My Touch 4G.
My favorite phone out of the group is the MT4G just because of the speed and power it has. The second gen snapdragon and the 786mb ram make it one of the most powerful and fast android phones on the market.
I have only had the HD7 for 3 or 4 days. Great phone and OS, but it needs more time to mature. My mine problem with it is the no multitasking with third party apps. The Os is smooth as butter though!
IMO get the G2 (If you want the keyboard, MT4G if you want a fully loaded android.)
Personally, I'd get the HD7. It can only get better as the OS matures.
As far as the android phones go, it depends on what you're looking for. G2 has a keyboard, but slower CPU (800MHz). Vibrant has no keyboard, but a faster CPU (1GHz) and also an AMOLED screen.
Don't know if you were looking to get the MyTouch4g, but I'd probably choose that if I were to get an android phone on t-mobile.
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First off i say stay away from the vibrant. Not thst its a bad phone, i personally dont like samsung (returned my epic after 3 days.) As you can see in my sig my current phones include a nexus one, HD2, HD7, and My Touch 4G.
My favorite phone out of the group is the MT4G just because of the speed and power it has. The second gen snapdragon and the 786mb ram make it one of the most powerful and fast android phones on the market.
I have only had the HD7 for 3 or 4 days. Great phone and OS, but it needs more time to mature. My mine problem with it is the no multitasking with third party apps. The Os is smooth as butter though!
IMO get the G2 (If you want the keyboard, MT4G if you want a fully loaded android.)
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I do like the MT4G too, that one isn't available to me right now (these aren't being bought from a T-Mobile store). That is why I didn't include it in the poll or post.
I'm not really sure about the Vibrant, I can't believe they didn't put a camera flash on it, what a waste.
Thanks for your input. I did click the thanks button.
With NAND boot Android on the HD2 I'm not sure you will get an appreciably better Android experience from the Vibrant, G2, or MT4G. I would go with the HD7 personally to try something new. Or wait it out until after CES.
The main advantage is 4G speeds with the G2 or MT4G, if your in a 4G area. In Kansas City I avg 8-10mbs on my MT4G. I do see great potential in WP7. I absolutly love the OS, im just waiting for Microsoft to add the lil things they left out. If you take lots of pics with your phone though the camera sucks on the HD7.
I have yet to try a nand rom on my HD2. Time to dust it off and give it a shot. it was already good with SD roms.
My sd Android is working good. Battery life could be better. I haven't tried the NAND either, might try it tomorrow.
Still haven't figured out which one to get.
I just got a vibrant and I really love it. I came from a hd2 so screen size as very important.
While I thought I wanted the mt4g but I am very happy with the vibrant. I havent experienced any bugs and with the nero v3 rom i've been happy as a pig in sh.t lol.
As far as the hd7 I wasnt willing to take the plunge because of the sd card limitation and the possible lack of apps.
Well personally ive played around with the G2 and i like it, yes it has a slower CPU but it has been overclocked to 2 Ghz!!! 2X faster than the MT4G, but you dont have to go that ridiculous, you can just go with the standard 1.2 Ghz, thats assuming your willing to root your phone
Not to mention that the G2 is said to get the new gingerbread (2.3) soon, according to others, it makes it quicker so if you add all that i think that the G2 is the best
(also if you really like the MT4G sense ui, i have heard that they have it as a rom for the G2, not to mention they have Cyanogen on it)
but basically its up to you
Not looking to leave a Vibrant
As you can see by my signature I have a Vibrant. It is operating some as silk and very very fast. If it wasn't for the developers I could not say this.
I have been looking at a Nexus S and realizing the differences between Nexus S and a Vibrant are the curved body style, a flash with the camera and a 2.3 OS. The camera on a Vibrant is very good even taking night shots. A flash is not required on a Vibrant.
I will not change to a Nexus for the small differences. Very happy for now waiting for something newer to come along
My vote goes to Desire Z
I vote for the G2. I'm selling my Nexus S for one.
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Advantages of of G2 are Keyboard and (almost) stock android IMO.
Advantages of MT4G are faster processor (and its been overclocked to, i run mine at 1.4ghz) More ram(786mb), more ram cant hurt. Front facing Cam, thats more of a prefrence, but it will be big if skype brings video chat to android.
Advantages of HD7 are Big screen. Fast and great looking OS. Netflix (if your a member.) Zune and zune pass. The market is also growing really fast so the lack of apps will die especially when MS loosens up and let devs get access to more api.
If your gonna root i dont think it matters if a phone has sense or not because you can put a rom with it if you want it or a rom without it if you prefer stock.
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Advantages of of G2 are Keyboard and (almost) stock android IMO.
Advantages of MT4G are faster processor (and its been overclocked to, i run mine at 1.4ghz) More ram(786mb), more ram cant hurt. Front facing Cam, thats more of a prefrence, but it will be big if skype brings video chat to android.
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They've overclocked the G2 to 1.8GHz.
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They've overclocked the G2 to 1.8GHz.
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Same for the MT4G, I just run mine at 1.4ghz.
Well, I did have a chance to get the Mytouch 4g and, I got it in red.
Loving it so far. Thanks for all the great help!
G2. Dude why not get 4G speeds? Who wouldn't?
I am relatively new to the whole android thing but after having acquired my Vibrant, when it first came out, i have grown tired of how slow it is due to samsungs cancerous coding. This makes me even more displeased when i see how fast my brothers Nexus One is compared to my phone. So i am wondering if the Nexus S would be an upgrade to my vibrant or if it still suffers from samsungs cancer.
Thanks in advance
I went from a vibrant to a sns and its somewhat of a lateral move. Yeah sns is pure google, has ffc, flash etc....but I did like my vibrant, gf just wanted it more than me.
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Having owned both the nexus one and now the nexus s, the nexus s is just as quick. I believe Samsung's main issue is the filesystem (rfs if I recall correctly) they chose to use. This is not an issue with the nexus s as it uses ext4, an improvement over even the nexus one which was still using yaffs.
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I went from a Vibrant to a Nexus S.
Nexus S pros: Gingerbread. Front camera. Near field thing. LED flash.
Vibrant pros: HD video recording. Expandable SD.
Things I have discovered I never use: front camera, near field thing, LED flash.
Things I do use and wish I had: HD video recording, expandable SD.
Is Nexus S worth it just to have Gingerbread? I don't know. Gingerbread's awesome, but if you have an Android phone, you're just going to root it and hack it and apply a new launcher, anyway, so does it really matter what it ships with? Thanks to amazing devs, it seems like it's pretty much all hackable.
If the Galaxy S 4G ran stock gingerbread, it would be a perfect phone.
Don't get me wrong. The Nexus S is nice. I'll keep using it for a while. But I already have my sights on the Incredible S.
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I went from a Vibrant to a Nexus S.
Nexus S pros: Gingerbread. Front camera. Near field thing. LED flash.
Vibrant pros: HD video recording. Expandable SD.
Things I have discovered I never use: front camera, near field thing, LED flash.
Things I do use and wish I had: HD video recording, expandable SD.
Is Nexus S worth it just to have Gingerbread? I don't know. Gingerbread's awesome, but if you have an Android phone, you're just going to root it and hack it and apply a new launcher, anyway, so does it really matter what it ships with? Thanks to amazing devs, it seems like it's pretty much all hackable.
If the Galaxy S 4G ran stock gingerbread, it would be a perfect phone.
Don't get me wrong. The Nexus S is nice. I'll keep using it for a while. But I already have my sights on the Incredible S.
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Thanks!
I must admit that besides using the Flash as a flashlight and its "cool factor" i really dont care about it nor would i use it.
And then the front camera i have considered just modding onto my existing vibrant.
The near field thing i will never use and with our amazing devs the Vibrant is bound to get Gingerbread sooner rather then latter.
BUT the thing i really care about is its system speed and if it has, as our devs put it, "samsungs cancer code" in it, because after all the shiny new addons the OS speed is really my determining factor.
Who know, maybe just switching off Launcher pro will alleviate my lag.
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Is Nexus S worth it just to have Gingerbread? I don't know. Gingerbread's awesome, but if you have an Android phone, you're just going to root it and hack it and apply a new launcher, anyway, so does it really matter what it ships with? Thanks to amazing devs, it seems like it's pretty much all hackable.
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it does.. the kernels have to be open-sourced to expand development
kernels most likely get open-sourced after the OTA has been released.
and we all know how OTAs go for manufacturers
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it does.. the kernels have to be open-sourced to expand development
kernels most likely get open-sourced after the OTA has been released.
and we all know how OTAs go for manufacturers
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Hadn't known that. I'm new to Mods and such.
I will note, I rooted my Vibrant and applied the lagfix and etc., and then it was fine. Before that, it sucked.
And I admit, I honestly don't even know what a kernel is. I just put cyanogen mod on my Nexus, and I don't see much difference between it and stock. All of which I mention for perspective on my comments.
The Galaxy S4G might be more worthwhile than the Vibrant. At least the GS4G runs froyo, right?
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Hadn't known that. I'm new to Mods and such.
I will note, I rooted my Vibrant and applied the lagfix and etc., and then it was fine. Before that, it sucked.
And I admit, I honestly don't even know what a kernel is. I just put cyanogen mod on my Nexus, and I don't see much difference between it and stock. All of which I mention for perspective on my comments.
The Galaxy S4G might be more worthwhile than the Vibrant. At least the GS4G runs froyo, right?
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CyanogenMod is using the stock kernel.. lol, if you want to see the differences of kernels. Try out Netarchy's 1.2.4 or Trinity, I personally use Netarchy. I dislike morfic's boot screens added ontop.
Voodoo sound and Voodoo color are amazing (they're features in kernels) you need the app to control them as well.
Vibrant & Galaxy 4G both run Froyo. Vibrant has official 4G + source released for it now, but it took way too long imo.
If ur gonna try netarchy, make sure its CM7 compatiable (it says it on download link). CFS or BFS, either shouldn't disappoint.
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I went from a vibrant to a sns and its somewhat of a lateral move. Yeah sns is pure google, has ffc, flash etc....but I did like my vibrant, gf just wanted it more than me.
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x2. the only thing i truly miss from the vibrant was the extra storage space. i had 14gigs of internal space and i also added another class 4 32 gb external sd card. i know some people don't use a lot of space but i do (movies and music and a ton of nandroid backups).
I just switched 2 days ago and so far I'm really happy. I sold my Vibrant to a friend and was able to get a Nexus for a price that didn't hurt too bad.
I have to admit that I was hesitant at first. I dislike how Samsung has handled the SGS line and was loathe to reward them by purchasing another one of their products. But after playing with the Nexus for a while I caved. Its the phone I wish the Vibrant had been on the first place. No RFS, no TouchWiz......Never going back to a non-stock Android phone again.
Performance wise it feels noticeably faster than the Vibrant. The build quality is better too. My Vibrant used to creak a little, but not this. I have made a few video calls and though I probably wont use it often it is nice to have the option. I love having a camera flash; I'm often out with friends at night. NFC should take off this year but right now I can't really say anything about it.
Mostly I bought it because the other phones ive seen coming out this year don't impress me too much. Dual core is awesome but until the software support is there it isn't going to do much. Guaranteed updates and CM support are great also. The 4 inch SAMOLED screen hits the sweet spot in my book as well.
Just remember, either way you'll have a nice phone. I enjoyed my Vibrant but at the end it just wasn't what I had hoped for. Good luck.
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x2. the only thing i truly miss from the vibrant was the extra storage space. i had 14gigs of internal space and i also added another class 4 32 gb external sd card. i know some people don't use a lot of space but i do (movies and music and a ton of nandroid backups).
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Only thing I miss is video codecs. 720p playback lags on RockPlayer
RockPlayer handles everything else pretty well.
Overall, my opinion is that Nexus S > Vibrant. Wish it had SD though, not a deal breaker for me though.
Was just sick of the lack of CM7 support for SGS and constantly using lagfixes and unapplying them to flahs a new ROM.
I went from a vibrant to a sns and its somewhat of a lateral move. Yeah sns is pure google, has ffc, flash etc....but I did like my vibrant, gf just wanted it more than me.
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P.S. don't call the Nexus S a SNS. Its NS. They didnt call the 'Nexus One' HN1/HNO (HTC Nexus One).
You should wait for the HTC Pyramid. It will be out in first half this year and it is going blow both away.
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You should wait for the HTC Pyramid. It will be out in first half this year and it is going blow both away.
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Pyramid doesn't features Tegra 2. With a phone using tetra 2, you'll have access go tegra 2 zone.
Plus, its rumored that quad core phones will come out at the end of this year or early next.
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I agree with the lateral move. I like the hardware on the NS better than the Vibrant as I'm not into hardware modifications. I do prefer touchwiz apps to stock Google apps. I also prefer video codecs and 720p video recording over not having them either.
What I can tell you is that in terms of speed there are only a few things where I've noticed the Nexus is actually faster at, a quadrant benchmark because of jit, and usb connection speed. Side by side the tasks are almost identical, so much so that I can't tell the difference. My Nexus is running CM7 RC build #2 overclocked to 1.2Ghz and my Vibrant is running Bionix-V 1.2.1 with no overclock.
I have the luxury of being able to use either one whenever I want, so if I know I'm going to take a video I'm taking the Vibrant, and if I'm going on a trip and want to watch some movies on a plane ride I'm taking the Vibrant...every day use the Nexus is fine but it isn't an upgrade by any means.
In the end it's your choice so make sure if you do make the choice to change phones that you can live with it at least until someone makes some nice software modifications.
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You should wait for the HTC Pyramid. It will be out in first half this year and it is going blow both away.
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+1
If leaked specs are correct, this phone should be a killer......
ps. as i said this many times before....Team Wiskey Vibrant > SNS > stock Vibrant
Vibrant has much more then just HD playback and HD recording.....3.0 Bluetooth, TV-out, Gorilla Glass, SD-slot, many extra/cool features of Touchwiz (music player, all-share, camera, better sms and email clients), support for car and home docks, etc....i am probably missing something. And with TW ROM you cant even tell it apart from SNS running Gingerbread...
kolyan said:
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If leaked specs are correct, this phone should be a killer......
ps. as i said this many times before....Team Wiskey Vibrant > SNS > stock Vibrant
Vibrant has much more then just HD playback and HD recording.....TV-out, Gorilla Glass, many extra/cool features of Touchwiz (music player, all-share, camera, better sms and email clients), support for car and home docks, etc....i am probably missing something. And with TW ROM you cant even tell it apart from SNS running Gingerbread...
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Lots of biased statements there. Coming from a Guy who is from team whiskey.
You can paint something to look like something else but it's still Froyo. Not to mention the vibrant is using RFS filesystem that requires lagfixes.
With the Nexus S, Google releases source for kernels almost immediately which is a huge plus for Nexus S development. Whereas the vibrant kernels are based off I9000 kernels which result in poor battery life.
Waiting for Samsung to release source is mindblogging and I'm sure a lot of people who went from a vibrant to a nexus s would agree with me.
Basing roms off otas < basing roms off AOSP source.
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If video playback of anything you can throw at it is important, or large amounts of removable sdcard storage, or even 720p recording, then the Vibrant is the clear choice. There are a significant number of media-related activities the Nexus S can't do, that the Vibrant can.
If a more solid build, with a sexier to look at and easier to hold in the hand shape, with the alleged promise of getting newer versions of Android first are important, then the Nexus S is the choice.
OP - you can easily vastly improve the Vibrant's performance with any of the custom ROMs are kernels that implement the voodoo hacks.
I've called the move from any of the existing Galaxy S variants to the Nexus S a "side-grade", it's definitely not a major "upgrade" unless you'll never run root or custom kernels (to fix the infamous "lag" of Samsung's RFS filesystem).
zephiK said:
Lots of biased statements there. Coming from a Guy who is from team whiskey.
You can paint something to look like something else but it's still Froyo. Not to mention the vibrant is using RFS filesystem that requires lagfixes.
With the Nexus S, Google releases source for kernels almost immediately which is a huge plus for Nexus S development. Whereas the vibrant kernels are based off I9000 kernels which result in poor battery life.
Waiting for Samsung to release source is mindblogging and I'm sure a lot of people who went from a vibrant to a nexus s would agree with me.
Basing roms off otas < basing roms off AOSP source.
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I am not a dev, but i am pretty positive that Vibrant with TW uses VIBRANT kernel, not i9000.....shouldn't you know this being from Team Wiskey ?
dont have poor battery life......after several cycles with new ROM, I am back to my usual which is 12-14 hours of use. RFS doesn't bother me anymore thanks to Voodoo. And as far as 2.3 vs 2.2 goes......its just a minor upgrade, not as big as 2.1 to 2.2.
at this point SNS is history already......its very clear that the phone was released to make quick cash....not much longer wait for S-II, LG 2X, and Pyramid....
development-wise points go to SNS......
kolyan said:
+1
If leaked specs are correct, this phone should be a killer......
ps. as i said this many times before....Team Wiskey Vibrant > SNS > stock Vibrant
Vibrant has much more then just HD playback and HD recording.....3.0 Bluetooth, TV-out, Gorilla Glass, SD-slot, many extra/cool features of Touchwiz (music player, all-share, camera, better sms and email clients), support for car and home docks, etc....i am probably missing something. And with TW ROM you cant even tell it apart from SNS running Gingerbread...
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Agreed, not even really a contest unless your just a blind fanboi like most people in this section.
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With the Nexus S, Google releases source for kernels almost immediately which is a huge plus for Nexus S development. Whereas the vibrant kernels are based off I9000 kernels which result in poor battery life.
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Vibrant source was released days ago and there are already three OC kernels out built from source.
I would say if you want to break it down, the NS is better as a pure phone/smartphone, whereas the SGS is a better media device. I would not sell my Vibrant because it's like an Android-based iPod Touch (but better).
Bear in mind that I come from a Desire HD running Cordedroid V6.8...;-))
On the plus, the screen and resolution look great....
But:
- it's somehow less responsive, I feel that on occassion it feels like I really have to bang the screen
- sense 3.0 is laggy
- the keyboard is laggy
- scrolling, whether through sreens or in widgets, isn't smooth...
In honesty, it reminds me of my first stock Galaxy S...
Am I the only one ?
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ilgrande said:
Am I the only one ?
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if the 8348235923497834 other threads that rehash these issues are any indication, then no.
Don't worry. It's HTC's rubbish stock ROM. I made a thread about it: Clicky!
Once we get optimized ROMs on here, this thing is gonna fly
I've come from dhd as well, and can honestly say I'm not suffering from any of these problems.
Just like when I got my dhd, my main concern was the screen. I can safely say that I'm more than happy with the screen on the sensation.
To me, this is the DHD with its small niggles (lack of ffc, screen resolution) corrected.
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I finally got my hands on a live Sensation today and I see what you're describing, but I'd call it jittery rather than laggy. My Vibrant is laggy, meaning it can take seconds to respond. What I saw on the Sensation just playing for a few minutes is it's not perfectly smooth scrolling between home screens, it's just slightly jerky, or stuttery. I saw it on web pages as well. There was only one widget running on the demo, but I did turn off animation in the settings, and it made no difference.
I wouldn't call it a deal killer, and I assume it's fixable with another launcher, or certainly a tweaked up ROM, but people reporting this aren't nuts, or OCD.
What I was impressed with is the speed of loading Google maps and scrolling around, plus the screen resolution. It's like the speed is in there, but in some parts of the UI it's being tripped up.
Sense 3.0, while having a lot of nice features, just doesn't seem complete/polished yet. In addition, the OS can't really use the dual core to its full potential. Things will get better with updates.
Try using G1 for a month or two and then try Sensation... man that thing is fast.
Although, I do feel it's not as responsive as my old MT4G with CM7 on it.
im still waiting on mine ill get it on monday , im coming from an hd2 running hyperdroid ,take your pick on his builds they are both screaming fast so i knew that couildnt be matched by a stock rom , my wife works there and ive played with the store model a bunch , i wouldnt say lag either just stuttery , but at times its really fast , either way the screen is definately an upgrade along with 1080 p recording and the front facing camera, i think people expect wayyyyy tooo much from phones ...remember they are just phones ,remember where we were just 10 years ago , just think where we will be in another 10 years , i want my next phone to make me breakfast in bed and im settling for no less
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Bear in mind that I come from a Desire HD running Cordedroid V6.8...;-))
On the plus, the screen and resolution look great....
But:
- it's somehow less responsive, I feel that on occassion it feels like I really have to bang the screen
- sense 3.0 is laggy
- the keyboard is laggy
- scrolling, whether through sreens or in widgets, isn't smooth...
In honesty, it reminds me of my first stock Galaxy S...
Am I the only one ?
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Yes... I have played with a Sensation and it is slower then my Desire HD running unity... (sense 3.0)
The Issue is 1.2ghz with 35% more pixels. The dual core does not come into effect at all.
All your lag is based on that... You are BASICLY... getting a slower device until Ice cream comes out...
To those who say that their device is NOT slower then a Desire HD.. Well I call you a fat Liar.
Never had dhd, so no comment, besides the fact that the phone is fast. Yes there is some minimal lag, but eh, I'm sure its software related and will get patched soon, this phone is very well built, love the design too. I'm happy with my purchase.
ive ran sense roms on my hd2 and it seems like any version of sense has a lil lag , really not a big deal
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ive ran sense roms on my hd2 and it seems like any version of sense has a lil lag , really not a big deal
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I agree..maybe they got some bad ones. My Sensation doesn't have any lag at all and jittery stuff they mention...No reboots or dead pixels...I suggest they do a warranty exchange or better yet do a return to the store.
Like the guy a couple posts back said...Try a G1 for a week then go back to this and you'd feel silly saying its jarry. lol
Thanks for sharing, and obviously, considering similar posts, it seems to be more of a sofware issue if anything else...
The keyboard-lag was.simply fixed by using gingebread keyboard iso the HTC-one.
Another plus, when it comes to web browsing, I've never had such a fast and smooth experience on a phone !!!
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