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can sprint tell when i wireless teather?

Simple question I just want to make sure I don't get extra charges for teathering to my laptop every once in a while when the laptop would be easier.

not unless you call them and tell them

ukn0wnscaa said:
Simple question I just want to make sure I don't get extra charges for teathering to my laptop every once in a while when the laptop would be easier.
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of course they can. the real question is do they really care?! i remember a thread with one person touting something like 50GB of use in a single month...

so they really wont care if I use my phone as a wireless hot spot for temporary usage for like email or playing online with my PSP or something...awesome. Thanks

Negrito said:
of course they can. the real question is do they really care?! i remember a thread with one person touting something like 50GB of use in a single month...
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They can probably tell when your usage jumps up like that, but thats it.
50gbs? Thats nothing, I average 2~3 sometimes 5 gbs a day, and I try to take it easy when I tether

Vrekk said:
They can probably tell when your usage jumps up like that, but thats it.
50gbs? Thats nothing, I average 2~3 sometimes 5 gbs a day, and I try to take it easy when I tether
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Sometimes I use over 15GB/mo. just on my phone. They probably don't care. I read that with WiMax they're not even going to have a bandwidth limit, so you can download and tether to your heart's content. I'm definitely looking forward to that.

Lol, I'm pretty sure 50GB was the guy who was considered the lightweight. I'm almost positive I read a guy using over 100GB, and Sprint didn't do anything. That kind of stuff just makes me laugh.

Nodata said:
Sometimes I use over 15GB/mo. just on my phone. They probably don't care. I read that with WiMax they're not even going to have a bandwidth limit, so you can download and tether to your heart's content. I'm definitely looking forward to that.
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I cant wait for the SuperSonic! I live in Vegas and already have WiMax through Clear. Can't wait for that shlt on my phone!

I thought sprint had a 5GB limit stated in their terms and conditions.

Negrito said:
I cant wait for the SuperSonic! I live in Vegas and already have WiMax through Clear. Can't wait for that shlt on my phone!
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You're lucky you get WiMax already.... I don't live in a city, so regular 3g for me..... They also can't tell if you tether UNLESS you use built-in MNS.

akijikan said:
I thought sprint had a 5GB limit stated in their terms and conditions.
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Yeah here's an article on the 5gb limit

HeroMeng said:
You're lucky you get WiMax already.... I don't live in a city, so regular 3g for me..... They also can't tell if you tether UNLESS you use built-in MNS.
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MNS?
akijikan said:
I thought sprint had a 5GB limit stated in their terms and conditions.
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Data Cards. Not phones.

Negrito said:
MNS?
Data Cards. Not phones.
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MNS is Mobile Network Sharing. Internet Sharing on fresh 2.0.
They can tell if you tether with that. On wireless tether, it just looks like normal data usage.

HeroMeng said:
MNS is Mobile Network Sharing. Internet Sharing on fresh 2.0.
They can tell if you tether with that. On wireless tether, it just looks like normal data usage.
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How can they tell? Not trying to be a smartass, just curiuos.

HeroMeng said:
MNS is Mobile Network Sharing. Internet Sharing on fresh 2.0.
They can tell if you tether with that. On wireless tether, it just looks like normal data usage.
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Ahhh, i knew that. Im not quite sober though, so i couldnt think of what MNS stood for. lol.

I have used my Hero Tethered to my Laptop *thus giving it internet access.
then through the LAN port on the laptop supply internet access to my 360 which I use to play MW2
I used 15GB in 1 night sprint never said anything.

RPerry435 said:
I have used my Hero Tethered to my Laptop *thus giving it internet access.
then through the LAN port on the laptop supply internet access to my 360 which I use to play MW2
I used 15GB in 1 night sprint never said anything.
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I literally just finished doing this. Some lag, but my I just moved here and my internet hasn't been installed yet.

I need a rollover cable to get my PS3 bridged in.

churraman said:
How can they tell? Not trying to be a smartass, just curiuos.
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I believe it signals your carrier or goes through a different set of ports. Either way, I tried this on a 1.5 rom and my phone wouldn't connect to EVDOs for an hour. Scary.

ldleblanc said:
I literally just finished doing this. Some lag, but my I just moved here and my internet hasn't been installed yet.
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I just did this. No lag on halo for me. NHL had some lag. It is awesome.

rooted tether

I was wondering if sprint can keep up with the data used through the hotspot you can download for a rooted device. I am thinking about getting an evo. (i know that the evo has its own forum, but I figured I would ask people that have been with sprint for a while with the hero.) Basically, I want to use the phone as an internet connection, like you would dsl, but i do not want to buy the 30 per month thing that you have to buy to do it on the evo. So i just wanted to know if i would get caught and have to pay some huge bill for playing ps3 or downloading huge files through the root hotspot. Thanks for helping me out.

I seriously doubt it. These phones do so much data how would they even tell if its a laptop or not. They would have to be searching for certain ports.
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Just FYI you probably don't want to use Ev-Do for gaming. Everytime I ran the Speed Test app I ping around 140-150 ms...

c00ller said:
Just FYI you probably don't want to use Ev-Do for gaming. Everytime I ran the Speed Test app I ping around 140-150 ms...
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Which is perfectly fine for MW2 with minimal lag.

jerry43812 said:
Which is perfectly fine for MW2 with minimal lag.
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Really? I've never played MW2 but for me a first person shooter server with ping above 70 is trash. Maybe MW2 is a very well lag compensated game.

i use mine daily no problems,dont play mw2 though more of a bad company guy myself

This is my average data usage for a month, actually a couple days shy, and I have never had a problem from Sprint. Been using at least this much for over a year.
Used to be on a tethered Touch Pro, and now on a Hero. I have similar usage across 3 other lines on the same plan, over 12gb total, and no problems.

Nfl mobile live

Found this in the EPIC 4G forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=778473
Works great for me, you just have to read the directions properly.

There has been am ongoing thread about this is the general Android app forum.

BigRick10 said:
There has been am ongoing thread about this is the general Android app forum.
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well since this is an app and this does work, this belongs here in the apps forum. thanks for your concern

Hey I'm not saying it doesn't. All I said was its been in the Android App forum for sometime now. The discussion has been going on over there. That was all.

Great app....works just fine on my EVO running CM6
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I tried listening to a game this sunday and did not get an audio stream. Anyone else?

Just a heads-up...there are also a few sites that regularly run feeds of all the NFL games. Since they use Flash video, guess what phone plays them perfectly I got to watch the Ravens (lose) on the way home from the shore this past Sunday. It was nice.

Which sites do you use?

rujelus22 said:
Which sites do you use?
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Well, while I don't claim to be innocent of watching unlicensed streams every now and then, I'm not gonna go posting them here Seriously I found one good site after a single Google search and it has had all of the games so far. Basically just links to different people streaming their capture card input on any one of the popular live streaming sites. It's silly that they make it so hard to watch games when it's obviously no replacement for a real HD channel but then again charging out the ass is the hallmark of professional sports so I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Gotta sell those overpriced Sunday Ticket packages somehow...

neodorian said:
Just a heads-up...there are also a few sites that regularly run feeds of all the NFL games. Since they use Flash video, guess what phone plays them perfectly I got to watch the Ravens (lose) on the way home from the shore this past Sunday. It was nice.
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ya i know, i just miss havin the NFL app and thought people would appreciate having it. A lot of the apps out there are just basically links to web pages, having the app is just a convenience

stinkbud said:
I tried listening to a game this sunday and did not get an audio stream. Anyone else?
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I just got the app yesterday (Monday) so I havent had a chance to watch the games. NFL Network streams flawlessly though

Just downloaded it and it looks great so far
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tonyh703 said:
ya i know, i just miss havin the NFL app and thought people would appreciate having it. A lot of the apps out there are just basically links to web pages, having the app is just a convenience
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Very true and I'm fine with that but I don't always feel like doing all kinds of hacks to get a Verizon app authorized on my phone when I could just bookmark a page. To each his own I guess.

this works for menial tasks like seeing scores, but streaming crashes my phone running baked snack after awhile. trying to watch redzone on sunday after awhile the program crashes and the only way to get things back to normal is to pull the battery.

I've been trying to run it in 4G but it doesn't log in at all. But as far as running in 3G I can watch view and do anything without any issues. Kinda sucks but I love having the app again.

neodorian said:
Very true and I'm fine with that but I don't always feel like doing all kinds of hacks to get a Verizon app authorized on my phone when I could just bookmark a page. To each his own I guess.
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gotcha, I do that with most stuff, actually like the LIVE TV app just streams to "one of those web pages", so in that sense the app is pretty much useless, just bookmark the pages. I just miss that NFL app on my Sprint phone!!!!!!!!!!!
how could you let verizon outbid you on THIS ONE sprint

Awesome, I was bummed when Sprint launched that piece of crap update to their NFL app; looked like a kids toy. I just got my Evo purring and this app was on my wish list. Thanks for posting!

mmcrrc said:
Awesome, I was bummed when Sprint launched that piece of crap update to their NFL app; looked like a kids toy. I just got my Evo purring and this app was on my wish list. Thanks for posting!
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I actually like the new sprint football app... they really can't do much more than what they have done with it since they lost the rights to the nfl games.
I also love the NFL app... I just know it is temporary and will have to be redone all the time =| I did actually watch my skinz beat the boys on my phone from start to finish without any issues other than hitting deadspots for a signal..was great!

This app works great. Occasionally cuts out here and there, but not bad for the price!
I was bummed to see that Sprint lost the sponsorship to Verizon, glad this works.

So is there any charges or other terms not mentioned as far as paying for this app monthly or is it completely free?
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Netflix data usage

Hi,
So like an idiot I "upgraded" to the new T-Mobile "unlimited" plan with the 2 GB limit. At the time, it made sense to switch; I'd save money on minutes, and I'm not a heavy data user. Right now I use ~200-300 MB a month. At most, I've used 6xx MB recently. My data heavy data apps right now are Pandora and Sling player. And, I'm on wifi when at home, and on campus.
However, I have now started to deeply regret my derision now that Google has announced their new cloud and music services, Netflix has finally launched their app for select android devices (including my N1), and T-Mobile announced free Wi-fi calling on new devices. I'm not asking for pity or reticule, but I need some questions answered.
Does anyone have any idea how much data the new Netflix app uses when using 3/4G? AT&T iPhone users, some of you use Netflix with similar caps, how easy is it for you to reach the cap? Those of you have gone over the 2GB limit on T-Mobile, how badly did they throttle you, if at all?
Finally, I thought I'd share my two cents worth on data usage and caps. I'll gladly stay a capped customer on T-Mobile if such moves allow T-Mobile to return to profitability without the likes of AT&T. Data is data, and data caps on home internet service are abominations. However, bandwidth is not free, and broadband cell service is one of the most expensive last-mile solutions to maintain; it is also primarily a supplemental form of connectivity for most customer So, I have no problem with T-Mobile trying to make a buck and stay afloat, so long as they maintain their current levels of quality and customer service.

those are some good questions. I do know that streaming video takes ALOT of data. So you would be able to do mabe 2 full netflix videos a week would be about my guess. but then again you stream audio too so in doing that, I would say maybe 1 video a week.
I have a friend with the SGS4G and he got put on that plan and hates it. He was using it alott, mainly bc he came from crappy verizon service with maybe 1mbps download to this phone which he hit 21mbps. anyways, when he went over 2gb and got throttled down to just under 2mbps. now that its later in the month, it seems to be they are slowing him down more. He lately has only been getting .06mbps
So yea, it sucks for him. reallly bad.

Well, that answers my throttling questions thanks. Video streaming is done using a variable bit rate, meaning that data usage can rise and fall along with the quality of the video. I'm sure Netflix takes data usage into account when streaming the video over cell. They recently had to preform similar actions for their Canadian costumers, many of whom are subject to ridiculous caps on their home internet connections. I also think that I will rarely watch a full-length movie entirely on 3/4G. So, I'm not too concerned as of yet. I'll experiment once my next billing cycle starts, track my usage, and report the results an a new thread.
I would be willing to bet your friend did a fair bit of tethering?

Let me get this straight. The straight up "Unlimited plan" is even more limited than the regular unlimited 4g web??? Wow, some of that att mentality is already creeping up into that dump i see....

xsteven77x said:
Let me get this straight. The straight up "Unlimited plan" is even more limited than the regular unlimited 4g web??? Wow, some of that att mentality is already creeping up into that dump i see....
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Yarp. You read that right!

go to sprint, fully unlimited bud

Here is my experience..
I'm on t-mobile with the MyTouch 4G. I haven't used netflix as of yet, but I do stream a lot on my phone with other various apps and websites to watch TV shows. I do accounting so I'm usually in my office alone through the day and I have the capabilities of watching shows on my phone, since accounting is extremely boring and i need something to keep me going.
Anyway, on average, a regular TV show (like friends), runs about 25 minutes. And in that time, I use anywhere from 70 - 100mb. Fortunately, I still have t-mobile's "unlimited" data which caps at 5gb.
I have reached the cap once, and for 2 days, they limited my throttle to edge speed! It was ridiculous!
There are a few apps in the market that help keep track of the data you are using. What I personally did was calculate how much data I could use per day and limit myself to that. I could check the apps to make sure I wasn't passing my limit. It's been working pretty well so far.
I hope this helped to whoever needed it!
Thanks are appreciated to all that this helped!

seanthegeek said:
Well, that answers my throttling questions thanks. Video streaming is done using a variable bit rate, meaning that data usage can rise and fall along with the quality of the video. I'm sure Netflix takes data usage into account when streaming the video over cell. They recently had to preform similar actions for their Canadian costumers, many of whom are subject to ridiculous caps on their home internet connections. I also think that I will rarely watch a full-length movie entirely on 3/4G. So, I'm not too concerned as of yet. I'll experiment once my next billing cycle starts, track my usage, and report the results an a new thread.
I would be willing to bet your friend did a fair bit of tethering?
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you're welcome dude. And yes, he made the soar mistake of tething his computer, then bridging his comp to his xbox a few times. lmao. told him it was a bad idea. the only thing i dont get is why they throttled him more. he's now getting slower than he did before. I dont think he tethers anymore...
you can also get Movie Stream app off the market. its pretty sweet. Watch movies without a monthly payment. it just streams them from a few different sites. Same Developers as TV Shows Stream app. pretty cool stuff d-('.')-b

desikilla said:
Here is my experience..
I'm on t-mobile with the MyTouch 4G. I haven't used netflix as of yet, but I do stream a lot on my phone with other various apps and websites to watch TV shows. I do accounting so I'm usually in my office alone through the day and I have the capabilities of watching shows on my phone, since accounting is extremely boring and i need something to keep me going.
Anyway, on average, a regular TV show (like friends), runs about 25 minutes. And in that time, I use anywhere from 70 - 100mb. Fortunately, I still have t-mobile's "unlimited" data which caps at 5gb.
I have reached the cap once, and for 2 days, they limited my throttle to edge speed! It was ridiculous!
There are a few apps in the market that help keep track of the data you are using. What I personally did was calculate how much data I could use per day and limit myself to that. I could check the apps to make sure I wasn't passing my limit. It's been working pretty well so far.
I hope this helped to whoever needed it!
Thanks are appreciated to all that this helped!
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Your actually pretty lucky dude. Edge speeds really are not that bad in comparison to GPRS/1G/whatever you want to call it. Most of the time getting throttled means getting 1g speeds. I do know that if you go into networks and change it to edge only networks you can get edge speeds, but somehow you were lucky enough to get them off the bat.

According to Netflix streaming for one hour will use about 1gb of data, 2gbs for HD.
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k_nivesout said:
According to Netflix streaming for one hour will use about 1gb of data, 2gbs for HD.
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bahahahaa. thats whyyy they want you to use wifi.
thats about the worse news you could tell someone who has a cap lmao

Yeah when I saw that I was pretty surprised. Sucks especially with carriers capping at 2 or 5 GB. Fortunately on Verizon with unlimited data.
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k_nivesout said:
According to Netflix streaming for one hour will use about 1gb of data, 2gbs for HD.
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That's probably for desktop streaming, not mobile. Someone I know who uses it on the iPhone said it uses ~200-300 MB/2 hours.

looking at the quality of the mobile movies/shows I'd say about 250mb an hour

seanthegeek said:
That's probably for desktop streaming, not mobile. Someone I know who uses it on the iPhone said it uses ~200-300 MB/2 hours.
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I think this is about right. That did sound like way too much for mobile streaming but the FAQ didn't specify.
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How much data can u burn in a month?lets talk torrents

Just for fun....now with the new value plan.
Its not much but its a start.

Shortbus-Driver said:
Just for fun....now with the new value plan.
Its not much but its a start.
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Holy s*$% dude, how did you manage to burn through 24.6 GB's of data??? I consider myself a pretty heavy user and I barely scrape the 5 GB ceiling every month

Well now that I don't have to worry about data....I don't worry so much about backing anything up when flashing roms and then there's Netflix and veetle and everything else that takes data.

LOL. Nice Short. How about leaving a really popular torrent seeding for a month?

Set me up ill sow my seeds.... ~

Ok on the topic of torrents....
I've dl'd a few torrent clients and am learning how they work....question is....is there a particular one that works better?
I went to dl a movie and it showed that it would take 28weeks and 5days to complete,lmao.
I'm also finding that the sites with higher seeding dl faster,but what is concidered a high count,for the numbers I'm seeing aren't all that high.

Short
I use utorrent for both my PC and my phones client. As far as seeds and leaches go remember you can pull from both to get parts of the DL. A seed has the whole file while leachers have just pieces until they finish the DL at which time they become seeders. As long as their are more than 5 seeders(big generalization here) you should be fine. Remember that it's considered torrent etiquette to seed after you receive the DL. Always try to share to a ratio of at least 1. Also remember that torrents are packages with many pieces so you will see slow DL speeds until you get a least a few pieces to share. As soon as that happens your DL speeds will go up fast. I usually get at least 500kb/s down on a well seeded torrent.

It's best if you pick torrents where there are more seeders than leechers. You'll get better speeds that way. On a lot of well seeded torrents you can have your download speeds start at your full connection speed.
Remember, seed:leech ratio is what will control download speed. Normally a torrent that has a few dozen seeders will net you the most speed since a lot of torrent clients have a concurrent connection limit (the number of connections you can have at once) of less than 100 (utorrent, transmission) and you won't gain any more speed from torrents with more than 100 seeders.

I typically use my phone to remote access my home PC and download torrents directly to my home PC. I usually get about 5 MB/s down (even though I have 30 MB plan). I can then just remotely send everything to my seed box and allow uploads to others for a minimum of 2 days.
Since I do not have unlimited data, this avoids me exceeding my data cap and I get better download speeds than using my phone.

I did around 12gb the first month I had unlimited. I need to play with Dosbox and play over battlenet to see what that uses.
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Tunderpimp what game are you playing on battlenet? And or are you just goin to battlenet thru phone?

And you wonder why carriers are using tiered data plans now

Warcraft 2 with Dosbox
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And you wonder why carriers are using tiered data plans now
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Actually T-Mobile has had tiered data plans right along...
Its becuz of people like me that got throttled every month.....that they finally now offer true unlimited data.
So ....your welcome!

I need to play with kainy you can stream pc games and play them over your phone.
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I need to play with kainy you can stream pc games and play them over your phone.
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I would love to learn more! !!
I'm an ex hardcore addict of Diablo II and miss it lol but don't have the time for sitting at a computer to play it, nor the patients.

I played all three and wow, it shows someone playing wow with kainy. I just have to get time to play with it. Work owns me atm.
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Shortbus-Driver said:
Actually T-Mobile has had tiered data plans right along...
Its becuz of people like me that got throttled every month.....that they finally now offer true unlimited data.
So ....your welcome!
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You're an idiot if you think that's the case.

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You're an idiot if you think that's the case.
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Write this down. Someone just called Short an idiot. Can't wait to see where this one goes.
@ the guy who called short an idiot back it up or shut it up. Flame on

Lol hes not worth it.......just another clueless retard.