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[Q] Titanium Backup Question

I figured these questions would have been answered somewhere but my forum searches didn't turn up anything, so if it has been, feel free to direct me to the correct location. Here goes:
I have Titanium Backup Pro, and am getting ready to flash the Cognition ROM (I have a Samsung Captivate). I have in many places seen people recommend to only backup and then restore user apps and app data when switching from one ROM to another (or from stock to a ROM). However, when I look in the batch list (I have version 3.6.7 of TB) there is an option for user apps, system data, or user apps and system data but no option for user apps and app data. Is app data included in the batch file for apps?
Also, a wiki I read (can't post the link, too junior) claims that you can restore apps without restrictions across ROMS, which to me means that restoring system data shouldn't be a problem.
Essentially, I am worried that if I only back up user apps using the batch file, when I restore, the apps will be there, but their data (like my prized angry birds progress, heaven forbid I lose it) won't be. Is that the case or does the user apps backup include that kind of stuff?
Also, it seems like system data includes things like SMS history. Should I go through and backup specific parts of the system data like texts and contacts and restore those but just not use the batch file?
Thanks to anyone who can either answer these questions or direct me to the correct thread/website.

cdenney said:
I figured these questions would have been answered somewhere but my forum searches didn't turn up anything, so if it has been, feel free to direct me to the correct location. Here goes:
I have Titanium Backup Pro, and am getting ready to flash the Cognition ROM (I have a Samsung Captivate). I have in many places seen people recommend to only backup and then restore user apps and app data when switching from one ROM to another (or from stock to a ROM). However, when I look in the batch list (I have version 3.6.7 of TB) there is an option for user apps, system data, or user apps and system data but no option for user apps and app data. Is app data included in the batch file for apps?
Also, a wiki I read (can't post the link, too junior) claims that you can restore apps without restrictions across ROMS, which to me means that restoring system data shouldn't be a problem.
Essentially, I am worried that if I only back up user apps using the batch file, when I restore, the apps will be there, but their data (like my prized angry birds progress, heaven forbid I lose it) won't be. Is that the case or does the user apps backup include that kind of stuff?
Also, it seems like system data includes things like SMS history. Should I go through and backup specific parts of the system data like texts and contacts and restore those but just not use the batch file?
Thanks to anyone who can either answer these questions or direct me to the correct thread/website.
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I've always backed up user apps and data and system data. The trick is to uncheck anything you're not sure of when you go to restore.
The only system data I restore is my wifi access points. You should have your angry birds progress, but I've never had my sms restore.
Make a nandroid before you restore so that you can go back if it starts acting wonky on you.
I hope this helps!

you said you back up user apps, <i>data</i>, and system data. TB for me doesn't have an option of apps and data. It only has apps or apps and system data, which is why I'm worried.
Sent from my Samsung Captivate

cdenney said:
you said you back up user apps, <i>data</i>, and system data. TB for me doesn't have an option of apps and data. It only has apps or apps and system data, which is why I'm worried.
Sent from my Samsung Captivate
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it automatically backs up the app and the data
you can restore apps accross roms but your asking for trouble if you try and restore data.
there should be an option in the batch to "restore missing apps with data" when you click "run" it will pop up with all the apps and at the top it will have a radio button to select app, app + data, or...um something else perhaps just data? (sorry flashing something else on my phone right now)
always select just app when flashing a different rom, else you might end up with a soft brick or atleast some FC.
hope this helps.
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Do you restore your old app backups?

I want to know. Do you really need to restore your apps from titanium backup?
I flash a rom every other week and I used to restore ALL my apps after a new flash. Just this week I decided to not restore my apps because I realized I barely use half of them on my phone.

Maybe the ones you know you can't live without, but i have way to many as it is and have started flashing more often. So im getting pickier about what i backup.

apps update so quick, i just use titanium backup to backup my game.

I backup all my apps
But when I flash a new rom I restore only what I need for the moment
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I gave up... i don't restore my apps anymore... lol

nor me unfortunately

I still restore my apps with titanium backup, but I do try to leave off some apps that I haven't been using. It's like moving and getting rid of the stuff you don't use! The more you move - the less boxes of stuff you have - LOL!

I had to factory-default my phone as it started acting strange, and I definitely did not reinstall a bunch of apps I'd installed. When I first got the phone, I went wild on the Marketplace, and installed a ton of free apps that sounded interesting. There were a bunch of apps on the phone that I'd probably never even used once.

yeah like most i backup all my apps but only restore some of them depending on what i want/need at the time.

I backup for my Angry Birds progress .

philliple97 said:
I want to know. Do you really need to restore your apps from titanium backup?
I flash a rom every other week and I used to restore ALL my apps after a new flash. Just this week I decided to not restore my apps because I realized I barely use half of them on my phone.
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I hardly use the backup, I am not application/game freak so the apps count is less. I have seen guys backing up lots of apps/games, but instead they only use few.

I don't restore all my old apps, Market is here for that, but it can be useful to backup stock apps that you can't find on Market when you flash an alternative ROM that doesn't bring stock apps.

[Q] (Q) Backups, ROMS and Restores

Yes! I've just gotten off the oncall rotation stint so I can mess with my phone again without getting worried but not receiving calls. I'm on Infused 1.6, bigtime disappointed about no GB love from ATT so I'm going to try S7.
However, I have a ton of paid and free apps and setups installed that I really don't want to lose. I've gotten through a ton of threads but there weren't any hard mention that the apps would stick around. I have religiously backed up using Titanium and even copied the files to my PC for safe keeping.
Q1. I presume I would have to reinstall all apps on S7 as my Froyo-based backups will be useless then?
Q1. If I need to fallback to Infused 1.6, can I just use GTG Ultimate Unbrick, get back to stock rooted and use the Ti backup files to get me back to the previous state? Like Ghost? And I'll get my widgets, unlocker, folder organizer, themes e.g. back ?
Thanks a bunch.

If u like the set up you have already , just go into Recovery. Back/Nandroid and your safe at any point to just return to the set up that you had. with your apps and contacts and what not.
you CAN use Titanium to restore to your New GB Rom just do not Restore System Data. Only restore missing apps and data.
other that you should be good bruh, Good luck.

Thanks. I've done my nandroid backup and have verified I can go into red CWM. I didn't realize but glad to know I can use my Tibu to restore my apps. I presume I will still need to manually re-setup any customization, unlocker, folder apps e.g. I was all set to do it this morning at work except I forgot my outlook-synced contacts and calendar will need to be re-entered so I'll hold off until I backed them up at home.
Just to be doubly sure, are my paid and free apps in the form that I can manually just copy to my PC as a backup and be able to copy back and install them? Much like the setup or install exes and folders on Windows? Some of my apps I've purchased from Amz, some from Mkt and others from brainapp.

Titanium will Bring over all your apps. Again, just DO NO restore SYSTEM data.
and as far as your pad apps, they should ALL be linked to your google account. so at any point just go into market, hit settings, My Apps and u can find them all in there.

[Q] Switch to Skyrocket from GS2?

Now that people have had the device for a few days, I was hoping their to headstart could help potential switchers and as the SR doesn't have it's own forum yet so I'm asking here.
Newbie alert!!!!
I am wondering how easy it will be to move from the Gs2 to the skyrocket? Basically any recommended ways of moving my apps, texts, pictures, etc to the SdCARD and back from the SdCard to the new phone? Contacts are synced with Google Contacts so no problems there, my main concern is with paid apps, I'd rather not pay for them again.
Can I back up apps via TiBU and restore them on the Skyrocket? Or can I just reinstall them on the new phone?
End of Newbie question!!!!

Paid apps are in your google account as well, you will be able to reinstall all your paid apps through the market (without repaying) by just signing in to your same google account.
The only thing you need to backup is your pictures/music.

Here's what I did to migrate to my Skyrocket from my Captivate:
*Duh Alert* Have your original phone rooted and Titanium Pro installed.
Original Phone
1. Backup APK & Data with Titanium.
2. Locate where backup directory is on your phone. Mine was \sdcard\TitaniumBackup
3. Mount original phone and copy backup directory to your computer.
New Hotness
1. Root that bad boy. Search the site, its here.
2. Install Titanium Pro from market.
3. Back up 1 app, pick something silly. That will create the backup directory.
4. Mount the new hotness and copy your saved directory from your computer to the Skyrocket.
5. Restore apps. I did one at a time cuz I didn't want everything installed on the new phone.
95% of the apps and data restored properly.
Simplistic, yes....but it works. Go forth and multiply.

If you want the smoothest experience on your Skyrocket, do NOT use a backup tool to bring over apps, just reinstall them from the Market.
Copying apps and app date with a tool like Titanium does and WILL cause some issues.

crawlgsx said:
If you want the smoothest experience on your Skyrocket, do NOT use a backup tool to bring over apps, just reinstall them from the Market.
Copying apps and app date with a tool like Titanium does and WILL cause some issues.
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To partially agree with you I tried using MyBackUp Pro and almost everything failed. That's what I deserve for buying that one first back in the day. BUT....Titanium worked great. All of my paid apps were as good as gold.
Plus, if you want your saved data, wouldn't you have to use a backup tool?

gheck911 said:
To partially agree with you I tried using MyBackUp Pro and almost everything failed. That's what I deserve for buying that one first back in the day. BUT....Titanium worked great. All of my paid apps were as good as gold.
Plus, if you want your saved data, wouldn't you have to use a backup tool?
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If your just trying to backup like game saves then sometimes. A lot of times that data can be backed up by just mounting your sdcard to your computer and copying the files. Some games do save the data in funny locations so you do need (easier) to use something like Titanium, but you are always better off starting from as scratch as possible to avoid issues later.
Moving an app to save you from entering your login info for example, is just a bad idea. Most apps have no real data to backup, simple 2 second settings etc....

crawlgsx said:
If you want the smoothest experience on your Skyrocket, do NOT use a backup tool to bring over apps, just reinstall them from the Market.
Copying apps and app date with a tool like Titanium does and WILL cause some issues.
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i have found that most issues with TiBu are do to you trying to restore System Information......i used tibu to restore my apps on the Skyrockert. i just picked APPS only with out system data.
worked fine i have not seen a hickup on any device or install after a flash of new Rom.

the2rrell said:
i have found that most issues with TiBu are do to you trying to restore System Information......i used tibu to restore my apps on the Skyrockert. i just picked APPS only with out system data.
worked fine i have not seen a hickup on any device or install after a flash of new Rom.
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+1
TiBu works great, usually, for restoring NON-System apps and their data.
Avoid restoring system apps/data.
Also, if you do happen to run into a problem with a particular restored app, all you need to do is uninstall/reinstall it and then use TiBu to restore the "data only" for that app.
This has always worked for me.

y?
Its basically the same phone, screen tiny bit bigger and it edges r round, and the. 3 faster CPU is not noticeable, and if u don't live in the handful of citys that have lte network what's the point by the time LTE gets fully activated skyrocket will be old phone something way better out, now if u didn't have the gs2 already if say hell ya but since u do wasted money IMO

Restoring TiBu apps from original Galaxy S to SR?

I had an original Galaxy S Captivate that I just recently broke, and now they're sending me a new Skyrocket as a replacement. I had everything from the Galaxy S backed up through Titanium Backup on an external sd card that still works. When I get the new phone, after I root it and put TiBu on it, will I be able to restore the apps from the old phone onto it, or is there something in the backups that's phone specific?
Thanks

Probably best to re download but it may work all the apps are built for multiple phones I can't see an issue as long as it doesn't store phone info
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You "could" restore apps only and probably be fine (definitely do not restore apps+data). But with the new Market (I still refuse to call it the "Play Store"), it's really easy to go through the list of every app you've ever downloaded (even for the Captivate) and just re-install.
Unless you're talking about 100's of apps I recommend just doing a fresh install from Play Store. Every time I flash a new rom I just go through and re-install and it only takes about 3 or 4 minutes to re-install all 40-ish apps I use.

Ah ok. I didn't know the new market had that functionality. I'll definitely do that for the apps I can. I had some apps that weren't installed through the market, so that's the main reason I was wondering about restoring them through TiBu. I'll make sure to restore the app only and no data for those. Thanks!