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What affects the GPS?

I've been using CM7 on my phone for about a month and i really liked it but the GPS didn't seem to work very good.
Today I wiped my phone and installed CoreDroid 6.3 but the home and search button are not working (My phone is still using the CM7 Kernel so could that be the problem?) so I'll either try and fix it or flash a new rom (most likely LeeDroid). I am tempted to just flash the stock rom back on it and reroot the phone because I love the HTC Camera.
What would affect the GPS on the phone? Is it the ROM that would affect how well the GPS works or the radio?

ShadowsDemise said:
I've been using CM7 on my phone for about a month and i really liked it but the GPS didn't seem to work very good.
Today I wiped my phone and installed CoreDroid 6.3 but the home and search button are not working so I'll either try and fix it or flash a new rom (most likely LeeDroid). I am tempted to just flash the stock rom back on it and reroot the phone because I love the HTC Camera.
What would affect the GPS on the phone? Is it the ROM that would affect how well the GPS works or the radio?
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There are quite a few things, the basics being Radio, RIL(Radio Interface Layer), and the settings on the phone, such as the NTP connection. I have found that using the updated AT&T RIL and Radio with CM7 gives me like stock GPS. Full and quick locks. Like under 10 seconds (after the initial 45 second lock). At least, that is my experience.

id10terrordfw said:
There are quite a few things, the basics being Radio, RIL(Radio Interface Layer), and the settings on the phone, such as the NTP connection. I have found that using the updated AT&T RIL and Radio with CM7 gives me like stock GPS. Full and quick locks. Like under 10 seconds (after the initial 45 second lock). At least, that is my experience.
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Can you post a link to the updated AT&T RIL and Radio? There are a ton of radios and I'm not sure which one is the right one.
I restored CM7 so it's on my phone again.

Try Angel Death's GPS files for whatever region of the states you live in (Northwest, Southwest, etc) I have CM7, and without it, the gps is so-so. With it, I can get a lock of 2m within 10-15 seconds, without use wireless networks enabled.

alex4lex said:
Try Angel Death's GPS files for whatever region of the states you live in (Northwest, Southwest, etc) I have CM7, and without it, the gps is so-so. With it, I can get a lock of 2m within 10-15 seconds, without use wireless networks enabled.
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Thanks!
I installed the file for my region so hopefully that helps out.
I'd still appreciate the links to the updated AT&T RIL and radio so I can flash a new radio to my phone.

Here's the link to the radio. Use the one in the second post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002226
As for the ril. You can go into rom manager >gtg>ril flasher> select 26.06.06.30 and flash it through recovery. Ill try and find a link
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marsdta said:
Here's the link to the radio. Use the one in the second post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002226
As for the ril. You can go into rom manager >gtg>ril flasher> select 26.06.06.30 and flash it through recovery. Ill try and find a link
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Thanks!
Both flashes worked fine.

[Q] question...leedroid radio

just installed leedroid 3.2.1 and its great issue im having is that im trying to flash the recommended radio in his post.i download it and rename it but all it says in hboot is (parsing) not sure what i am doing wrong..
edit i checked the md5sum and it does not match from the post..help plz

jesses_girl said:
just installed leedroid 3.2.1 and its great issue im having is that im trying to flash the recommended radio in his post.i download it and rename it but all it says in hboot is (parsing) not sure what i am doing wrong..
edit i checked the md5sum and it does not match from the post..help plz
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If it doesn't match the md5 then you have to redownloaf

zelendel said:
If it doesn't match the md5 then you have to redownloaf
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i have a bunch of times already

jesses_girl said:
i have a bunch of times already
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Then something is wrong with how your downloading it. Are you doing it by PC or phone?

from my mac tried different browsers..came to conclusion that issue with radio thanks for info.

Use the one from this thread,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1106324
Inspire Radio Thread [OP Updated June 10 2011]

I'm using the stock At&t radio with no issues... what does the recommended radio do better?

lee_ said:
I'm using the stock At&t radio with no issues... what does the recommended radio do better?
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The answer to your question is: I like turtles. (credit goes to id10terrordfw for that one)
But seriously, the reason I said "I like turtles" is because sometimes that question has no clear answer. If you're not having any issues using the stock radio, then there is no reason to change it. Some developers recommend a particular radio because it has worked for great for them and has been trouble-free in hundreds of hours of their testing. But that doesn't necessarily mean other radios won't work just fine. One thing to keep in mind is many Inspire ROMs are ports from Desire HD ROMs, so a lot of these ROMs will recommend a radio that came out on the DHD, because the developer actually owns that phone and that's the radio he uses. Usually, for any ROM that recommends the latest Desire HD radio version, the latest Inspire radio version will work just fine also. So any ROM that recommends version 09.04.11, version 06.06.30 on the Inspire should work just as good in most, if not all, situations.

henrybravo said:
The answer to your question is: I like turtles. (credit goes to id10terrordfw for that one)
But seriously, the reason I said "I like turtles" is because sometimes that question has no clear answer. If you're not having any issues using the stock radio, then there is no reason to change it. Some developers recommend a particular radio because it has worked for great for them and has been trouble-free in hundreds of hours of their testing. But that doesn't necessarily mean other radios won't work just fine. One thing to keep in mind is many Inspire ROMs are ports from Desire HD ROMs, so a lot of these ROMs will recommend a radio that came out on the DHD, because the developer actually owns that phone and that's the radio he uses. Usually, for any ROM that recommends the latest Desire HD radio version, the latest Inspire radio version will work just fine also. So any ROM that recommends version 09.04.11, version 06.06.30 on the Inspire should work just as good in most, if not all, situations.
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The problem there, Henry, is that timeless concept of... The grass is always greener...
That other radio *might* give me 6 out of 5 bars signal strength where I had -1 before, not to mention 10 gazillion kb/s down, and 5 gazillion kb/s up.

Scott_S said:
The problem there, Henry, is that timeless concept of... The grass is always greener...
That other radio *might* give me 6 out of 5 bars signal strength where I had -1 before, not to mention 10 gazillion kb/s down, and 5 gazillion kb/s up.
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Ha ha, that is true. I'm the same way. Myself, I've tried every damn radio/RIL out there multiple times. From a previous "gotta flash a radio per day" addict like me, my story to lee_ was to try to keep someone from going down that same path. If someone starts going down that slippery slope, I tried to warn them.

yea im just going to use the one on the other post with the radios. i was wondering the same thing what the recommended radio did better but answer has already been posted guess i will just try all radio and see which one fits my needs(speeds) lol

i too had many issues flashing a radio to my phone and i use a mac. its easy if u have eng off but i didn't want to do that. i finally downloaded the radio from that link so it was already pkged and all i had to do was to put it on the root of my sd and it worked perfectly

[Q] What is radio?

I realize many of you see this as a dumb question. But I see a lot of posts about radios. I've tried looking around the web what it is but couldn't really find good explaining information. I see a lot of posts for flashing the radio and a lot of different versions.
I'm running MIUI on my Sensation 4G and if radio is something I need to flash then I want to know what it is before I try flashing and brick my phone. So I've managed to find the version I have so if someone can point me the right direction I'd be very grateful.
So the main question is - WHAT IS RADIO?
So this is what I got
Radio - 10.14.9035.01_M

the radio pretty much just has to do with the wireless connectivity of ur phone, so ur wifi, bluetooth, 3g all controlled by your phones radio.
you shouldnt have to flash a new radio for every rom, if your facing problems, and think a new radio could fix them then you could try a new radio if you wanted.
hope this helped

Lol oh yea definitely! very simply put too! I just was wondering why there's so many versions and chance of bricking dam thing.
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maxe30is said:
Lol oh yea definitely! very simply put too! I just was wondering why there's so many versions and chance of bricking dam thing.
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Flashing the radio is just about the only sure fire way of bricking it.. It's one of those things people are most skeptical about flashing. No nandroid will save you with an improperly flashed radio
EDIT: I've been flashing roms for a long time now and not once have I ever had to flash a new radio.
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OK. I installed the HD Revolution 3.6.9 ROM days ago and have 2 major issues. As I am a new member, I am unable to post in the developmental section. Grateful for the OP to ask the question as I am also seeking to know "what radio is".
Although, I also want to ask - what is a kernel?
I believe thousands of members installed that HD Revolution 3.6.9 ROM and I couldn't find any reference for bluetooth and mms issues.
My phone can only detect my Nokia phone, my Plantronics bluetooth M100 is undetectable.
I am also unable to send MMS and yes, I tried the original settings, called the network and played with different settings but problem persists.
I checked the Hardware Information of the phone and it says "Bluetooth address - unavailable"

Kernel is a bridge between applications and the actual data processing done at the hardware level. So basically kernel tells all the hardware what to do (overclocked processors, undervolted batteries and etc) So far best one I've tried for Sensation 4G is the 2.6.35.14 Trinity S4G. Processor is overclocked to 1.7Ghz from stock 1.2 Ghz and the battery life is great!

masonic1032 said:
OK. I installed the HD Revolution 3.6.9 ROM days ago and have 2 major issues. As I am a new member, I am unable to post in the developmental section. Grateful for the OP to ask the question as I am also seeking to know "what radio is".
Although, I also want to ask - what is a kernel?
I believe thousands of members installed that HD Revolution 3.6.9 ROM and I couldn't find any reference for bluetooth and mms issues.
My phone can only detect my Nokia phone, my Plantronics bluetooth M100 is undetectable.
I am also unable to send MMS and yes, I tried the original settings, called the network and played with different settings but problem persists.
I checked the Hardware Information of the phone and it says "Bluetooth address - unavailable"
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btw try wiping you sd card and then flashing the Rom. helped me few time (im no developer )

IAmTheOneTheyCallNeo said:
Flashing the radio is just about the only sure fire way of bricking it.. It's one of those things people are most skeptical about flashing. No nandroid will save you with an improperly flashed radio
EDIT: I've been flashing roms for a long time now and not once have I ever had to flash a new radio.
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Obviously some radios are better than others?
Like the goal for man:
We want the best and we want it now.

Hardcore69er said:
Obviously some radios are better than others?
Like the goal for man:
We want the best and we want it now.
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Well that I'm not sure how accurate this statement is. That's why I started this thread just to know what it is. But from all the info I gathered online, you don't really need to flash a radio. Every thread with radios I saw that ppl will put a warning that you might brick your phone. So, my phone works great, never had any problems so I'll stay on the safe side (for now) and just do more research

maxe30is said:
Well that I'm not sure how accurate this statement is. That's why I started this thread just to know what it is. But from all the info I gathered online, you don't really need to flash a radio. Every thread with radios I saw that ppl will put a warning that you might brick your phone. So, my phone works great, never had any problems so I'll stay on the safe side (for now) and just do more research
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Good decision..

GPs Accuracy issue (new one)

Trying to track down if the GPS issues i'm having can be coded around without access to the radio code. Any radio after 11.69B on Sensation with seemingly any ROM has bad accuracy issues when using fine GPS while in motion. So RunKeeper , an app that keeps track of your running and distance/speed etc is effectively broken due to this... and altho 11.69A works, it has some other bugs with the latest ROMs so it is annoying me. It's possible there's no controlling things and it needs to be fixed in the radio, thats where i'm looking for some help. I did forward this to RunKeepers developers but haven't gotten a reply yet. I'm sure this impacts other Apps.
The accuracy bounces around enough that when running a straight line down a road, it will bounce to different sides of the street so the app thinks youve run across the street dozens of times while running and it adds up as an additional 1/4 mile of running and throws off all the distance/speed calculations the app does. Previously for years it tracked the straight line you ran and was mostly accurate...
Anyways, thanks!

wrong form section, try to look a bit better next time this is for q&a. U could delete the radio file from the pdg or something. then install 11.69A and then reinstll fw without the radio in the package

jd603 said:
Trying to track down if the GPS issues i'm having can be coded around without access to the radio code. Any radio after 11.69B on Sensation with seemingly any ROM has bad accuracy issues when using fine GPS while in motion. So RunKeeper , an app that keeps track of your running and distance/speed etc is effectively broken due to this... and altho 11.69A works, it has some other bugs with the latest ROMs so it is annoying me. It's possible there's no controlling things and it needs to be fixed in the radio, thats where i'm looking for some help. I did forward this to RunKeepers developers but haven't gotten a reply yet. I'm sure this impacts other Apps.
The accuracy bounces around enough that when running a straight line down a road, it will bounce to different sides of the street so the app thinks youve run across the street dozens of times while running and it adds up as an additional 1/4 mile of running and throws off all the distance/speed calculations the app does. Previously for years it tracked the straight line you ran and was mostly accurate...
Anyways, thanks!
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You do realize that it is a development section. You suppose to post this in general section.
\Regards,

It does this with 3.32 and 3.33 and all radios newer than 11.69A .. and 11.69A is buggy with new ROMs. Read what I wrote. I asked in Q&A. Try trying to help instead of jumping on someone with pure enjoyment.
I have no trouble changing ROMs, using ADB or even coding Java, but I realize you have the monopoly on development skill and knowledge .. so I thought maybe you had the skill to help me.
Alienator9191 said:
wrong form section, try to look a bit better next time this is for q&a. U could delete the radio file from the pdg or something. then install 11.69A and then reinstll fw without the radio in the package
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jd603 said:
It does this with 3.32 and 3.33 and all radios newer than 11.69A .. and 11.69A is buggy with new ROMs. Read what I wrote. I asked in Q&A. Try trying to help instead of jumping on someone with pure enjoyment.
I have no trouble changing ROMs, using ADB or even coding Java, but I realize you have the monopoly on development skill and knowledge .. so I thought maybe you had the skill to help me.
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i dont understand it completly i think, u want a scertain radio, get the fw for that radio, flash it via fastboot, then get the newer needed fw and only remove the radio file, it should work idk what u mean.. worked for me with hboot

You don't get it. I flashed all the different radios via fastboot already. Latest one that has proper working GPS is 11.69A , which has other bugs in latest ARHD and CM9. GPS works on the others but active/fine GPS is broken and inaccurate. For basic geolocation it would be fine, but for tracking movement and rate of speed etc it's completely broken. It might be hardcoded radio bugs but i'm trying to figure out if perhaps theres something else that can be changed.
So don't just assume that the new guy posting is completely clueless because i'm far from it.
Alienator9191 said:
i dont understand it completly i think, u want a scertain radio, get the fw for that radio, flash it via fastboot, then get the newer needed fw and only remove the radio file, it should work idk what u mean.. worked for me with hboot
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jd603 said:
You don't get it. I flashed all the different radios via fastboot already. Latest one that has proper working GPS is 11.69A , which has other bugs in latest ARHD and CM9. GPS works on the others but active/fine GPS is broken and inaccurate. For basic geolocation it would be fine, but for tracking movement and rate of speed etc it's completely broken. It might be hardcoded radio bugs but i'm trying to figure out if perhaps theres something else that can be changed.
So don't just assume that the new guy posting is completely clueless because i'm far from it.
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I didn't ever say that u are the new guy that doesnt know ****, but radio 11.29A works in fw 3.33 to so just flash the radio and your problem is over as far as i know..

I did, problem still happened even with 11.69A , just not as badly. It really seems like a non-radio issue at this point. I haven't wiped EFS yet, Trying to find efs wipe tool for sensation, last one i used was for g2 and i dont know if it resides in the same place on sensation
Alienator9191 said:
I didn't ever say that u are the new guy that doesnt know ****, but radio 11.29A works in fw 3.33 to so just flash the radio and your problem is over as far as i know..
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jd603 said:
I did, problem still happened even with 11.69A , just not as badly. It really seems like a non-radio issue at this point. I haven't wiped EFS yet, Trying to find efs wipe tool for sensation, last one i used was for g2 and i dont know if it resides in the same place on sensation
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method #2 for sensation
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1028405
it worked perfectly for me

ganeshp said:
method #2 for sensation
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1028405
it worked perfectly for me
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FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DO NOT DO THIS because you don't know what partition efs is.

Hunt3r.j2 said:
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DO NOT DO THIS because you don't know what partition efs is.
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Ohh really..
You know..being an RC iam extremely cautious when I recommend something.. At least I double check it.. Before I post it
Fyi.. That method used to be one of the gps fix solution.. In faq section of arhd thread..
And I must have did that.. Around 5-6 times now.. When I changed the rom
Also I was sooooo cautious first time that I literally dumped those partitions and checked them myself..
So now i believe that you will understand that the efs is at the same partitions
And I suggest you to edit that post of yours.. It will create unnecessary panic to people
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[Q] HTC Sensation random reboot & battery drain

Hey,
I had this problem now for very long time (actually more than 1year) and I tried all the solutions that were proposed in other threads specially this one that reduced the number of reboot but not totally
What I remarked is that when the phone is on the edge of the cell on 3G and trying to move to 2G it will automatically reset especially when the battery is below 50%.
I tried locking the phone on 3G and the number of reset has reduced but the downside of this is that I don't have most of the time connectivity (all the way in the metro for example).
Does anybody know if there is custom ROM or Kernel or Radio (I don't which part do control this) that deal with this issue?
I was running ARHD 6.7(and previous versions) with recommended radio till this morning and now I'm on CM9.
I changed the battery to Anker 1700 so the issue is not coming from the battery.
My phone was bought from French Operator Bytel (SN : SH169V..... if it helps)
Sorry for this long Message

Have you tried get Ril? It's an application in the play store that's a great app. It will let you know if your ril is matching your radio, and if it is not matching it recommends and downloads a matching ril. This really helped me a lot. I was getting a pretty weak signal and found out my ril was not matching my radio. Once I downloaded the matching ril, my signal went from one bar to four and five bars! I was pretty amazed on what a difference it made for me. It wouldn't hurt to give it a try and see if it helps you. If not you can also change your radio and ril yourself and see if you can come up with a better signal. Thing with radio is we all live in different areas so it must be experimented with by you because what works for me might not work in your area. You would start by looking in the generic ics radios and matching rils. Remember your radio now so you can return to it if need be. But before I'd change my whole radio do try Get ril. Hopefully it will make a positive difference for you! Also I believe you must be s off to change radio. Don't know if your s on, or off? But give get ril a try and see how that goes. Best wishes. Hope this was helpful.
Sent from my HTC Sensation using xda premium

realsis said:
Have you tried get Ril? It's an application in the play store that's a great app. It will let you know if your ril is matching your radio, and if it is not matching it recommends and downloads a matching ril. This really helped me a lot. I was getting a pretty weak signal and found out my ril was not matching my radio. Once I downloaded the matching ril, my signal went from one bar to four and five bars! I was pretty amazed on what a difference it made for me. It wouldn't hurt to give it a try and see if it helps you. If not you can also change your radio and ril yourself and see if you can come up with a better signal. Thing with radio is we all live in different areas so it must be experimented with by you because what works for me might not work in your area. You would start by looking in the generic ics radios and matching rils. Remember your radio now so you can return to it if need be. But before I'd change my whole radio do try Get ril. Hopefully it will make a positive difference for you! Also I believe you must be s off to change radio. Don't know if your s on, or off? But give get ril a try and see how that goes. Best wishes. Hope this was helpful.
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I tried the App GetRIL and it says RIL/baseband is matching (RIL 4.0.0013HMQ, 11.69.3504.00P_11.22.3504...)
Thanks anyway :good:.
I'm just wondering if it's not a HW or firmware defect on the serie of my phone (no limitation on the power usage during IRAT HO).
BTW I didnt get a reboot with CM9 till now but I'm in well covered area, I will see if it crashes again when i'm on the edge of the cell.

Had exactly the same thing last week, purchased a new battery and now the problem has gone away
Looking at the old battery you could see it was swollen
I picked up a battery new for £5 off ebay

I have already changed the battery and the issue is still happening. Anyway with the new ROM it looks stable so far.
I will test it for some days and see if it will happen again

CM Definitely solved the issue
walo1 said:
I have already changed the battery and the issue is still happening. Anyway with the new ROM it looks stable so far.
I will test it for some days and see if it will happen again
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It looks like it's something related to Sense based ROM. with CM it's not happening anymore

Hi walo1,
Which version of CM are you using?
I've installed CM9 on my Sensation some months ago and it worked for a while. But now I'm getting random reboots again...

djorak said:
Hi walo1,
Which version of CM are you using?
I've installed CM9 on my Sensation some months ago and it worked for a while. But now I'm getting random reboots again...
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Hi,
I was using CM9 Opensensation ROM XDA Page and I never got any random reset
Three days ago I flashed CM10 Opensensation2 and I started getting Random reset again
I have no idea what can be the cause but at least with CM9 I didn't see any reset after 1 week usage. I have to go back to CM9.
Rgds

Yes I tried open sensation myself and although I didn't get rebooting, I had NO data connection!! Have you tried some of the other jelly bean roms? I really like paranoid Android by Dragun. It's fast and smooth like butter with tons of available customization! I have had zero problems with this rom. I'm using version 17. With kernel 3.0.53, and my battery life is excellent! You might want to give it a try? Best wishes to you.
Sent from my HTC Sensation using xda premium

realsis said:
Yes I tried open sensation myself and although I didn't get rebooting, I had NO data connection!! Have you tried some of the other jelly bean roms? I really like paranoid Android by Dragun. It's fast and smooth like butter with tons of available customization! I have had zero problems with this rom. I'm using version 17. With kernel 3.0.53, and my battery life is excellent! You might want to give it a try? Best wishes to you.
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It looks good, I will give it a try next weekend
Thanks

I think I'll try Paranoid Android too then. And that way I'll try JB too.

It's radio Issue
Finally I found what the problem is coming from
Changing the radio to the latest European version two month ago made the phone much more stable with using various versions of CM10.
The version I'm using now is : 11.76A.3504.00_11.24A.3504.31_M with the RIL provided by default in the rom(it shouldn't be impacting)
Hope this will also solve your problem.