[Q] Benefits of rooting Xoom vs. Inspire4G - Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have rooted my Inspire4G to free myself of ATT bloatware and the fact that they lock down third party app locations. I did not appreciate them saying I could not install apps from sites other than the market. I just bought my Xoom and see that third party sites are available to use. What then I ask are the benefits of rooting these aprticular devices. I purchased the WiFi version and expect to use my rooted Inspire4G as wireless hotspot for on-the-go internet access for the Xoom. Am I missing something?
Thanks in advance.

fwempa said:
I have rooted my Inspire4G to free myself of ATT bloatware and the fact that they lock down third party app locations. I did not appreciate them saying I could not install apps from sites other than the market. I just bought my Xoom and see that third party sites are available to use. What then I ask are the benefits of rooting these aprticular devices. I purchased the WiFi version and expect to use my rooted Inspire4G as wireless hotspot for on-the-go internet access for the Xoom. Am I missing something?
Thanks in advance.
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If you can't get your phone to emit your hotspot via infrastructure then you need to root to flash the ad-hoc zip that is floating around. Having your xoom @ 1.4 ghz+ makes it feel much more smoother also. I can't wait until the tiamat kernel adds undervolt for even better battery life.

fwempa said:
I have rooted my Inspire4G to free myself of ATT bloatware and the fact that they lock down third party app locations. I did not appreciate them saying I could not install apps from sites other than the market. I just bought my Xoom and see that third party sites are available to use. What then I ask are the benefits of rooting these aprticular devices. I purchased the WiFi version and expect to use my rooted Inspire4G as wireless hotspot for on-the-go internet access for the Xoom. Am I missing something?
Thanks in advance.
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Also certain apps require root;

Kippui said:
If you can't get your phone to emit your hotspot via infrastructure then you need to root to flash the ad-hoc zip that is floating around. Having your xoom @ 1.4 ghz+ makes it feel much more smoother also. I can't wait until the tiamat kernel adds undervolt for even better battery life.
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I assume then that you recommend the tiamat kernel? Are there any mods that you prefer?

fwempa said:
I assume then that you recommend the tiamat kernel? Are there any mods that you prefer?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15203345&postcount=116
just follow the instructions in this post for root, kernel, and a rom all in one after you flash cwm. I just finished flashing tiamat rom 1.1 easily in minutes.

It just occurred to me that I installed the 3.1 OTA update. Can I still run that method or must I wait until the method itself is updated?

Yes,
Backup through cwm and back your apps up. Back up whatever is on your xoom too.

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motorola xoom,asus transformer or acer tab?

I can buy either of these three on craigslist but which one should I get?
asus 32gb price $425
xoom 32gb price $400
acer 16gb price $350
so why should I pick this tablet and why? also Im planing on rooting so which would be easy to root?
It depends on your wants and needs. Just look up the available accessories for each. Personally I'd get the asus. If i could trade the xoom for it I would. Because for me, the keyboard attachment is something that could highly benefit me.
Xoom easy as pie to root
The xoom is a "Google Expirence Device".
If you dont want above then choose another tablet.
Kippui said:
Xoom easy as pie to root
The xoom is a "Google Expirence Device".
If you dont want above then choose another tablet.
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ok that sounds fair only complain to the xoom the the back power buttom. seems like a weird place to put it. XD how do u like the power button?
optimaljam said:
ok that sounds fair only complain to the xoom the the back power buttom. seems like a weird place to put it. XD how do u like the power button?
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It is in a spot where it is not accidentally pressed. I personally think its in a ok spot. You get used to it after awhile.
I would keep my xoom for 2 main reasons: usb port on the tab and google experience device. Also to mention the build quality, but well, I understand people would prefer the screen/weight of the TF (keyboard dock is useless for me, I prefer my netbook for that)
I dont think the zero default tab is already available but my xoom is perfect for my needs
thdj said:
I would keep my xoom for 2 main reasons: usb port on the tab and google experience device. Also to mention the build quality, but well, I understand people would prefer the screen/weight of the TF (keyboard dock is useless for me, I prefer my netbook for that)
I dont think the zero default tab is already available but my xoom is perfect for my needs
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alright then well I have my money and I will get the xoom today so whats the best rom for this device? can't wait to get this baby in today!
optimaljam said:
alright then well I have my money and I will get the xoom today so whats the best rom for this device? can't wait to get this baby in today!
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Good choice It's really an 'all in one' tab (meaning connections are on the tab itself) compared to the other ones (Galaxy Tab, Asus). Just the Acer/Toshiba comes close to it in term of connectivity.
Right now I'm just using the Tiamat 1.4.4 (no overclock) which perfectly fits my needs (USB host via usb OTG cable for usb stick/external hdd,camcorder,camera etc..), VPN connections (IPSec to my office Cisco device).
I'm about to test soon the newly Team Tiamat Xoom 1.1 which seems to be very promising
Devs are doing a wonderful job on this tab ! They really break any limitations it comes with.
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Good choice It's really an 'all in one' tab (meaning connections are on the tab itself) compared to the other ones (Galaxy Tab, Asus). Just the Acer/Toshiba comes close to it in term of connectivity.
Right now I'm just using the Tiamat 1.4.4 (no overclock) which perfectly fits my needs (USB host via usb OTG cable for usb stick/external hdd,camcorder,camera etc..), VPN connections (IPSec to my office Cisco device).
I'm about to test soon the newly Team Tiamat Xoom 1.1 which seems to be very promising
Devs are doing a wonderful job on this tab ! They really break any limitations it comes with.
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sweet but im really having a hard time to root this bad boy can anyone help is there a video thats detailed and tells u every step?
just follow this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1078019
its really easy
thdj said:
just follow this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1078019
its really easy
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idk it was really hard to me so many steps and so many links before u root. XP
I went to the xoom forums and found an easier guide but im rooted and im happy with it. so what kind of things can i do with root?
optimaljam said:
idk it was really hard to me so many steps and so many links before u root. XP
I went to the xoom forums and found an easier guide but im rooted and im happy with it. so what kind of things can i do with root?
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Basically, root allows you to customize your Xoom. I've installed custom kernels and ROM (all Tiamat version), I've changed my boot animation and my fonts, with the custom kernel/ROM I can overclock the cpu which gives more speed for various apps, and so on. You can do themes and use apps that require root, to really take control of your Xoom. For me it's the only way to go.
okantomi said:
Basically, root allows you to customize your Xoom. I've installed custom kernels and ROM (all Tiamat version), I've changed my boot animation and my fonts, with the custom kernel/ROM I can overclock the cpu which gives more speed for various apps, and so on. You can do themes and use apps that require root, to really take control of your Xoom. For me it's the only way to go.
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ok I have tiamat on mine and I want to over clock but I want to know that best settings for it, when I over clock at 1.7 it reboots alot so how do i make it not reboot so much. i have setcpu and driod overclock app. and what type of apps use root? also i have flash with hulu but is there one that plays netflixs?

Where are the Kernels

I know there is a lot more development for the HTC phones I've previously owned, but where the heck are kernels on this damn thread? Most of the ones i'm finding are in "All-in-one" packages.
Can someone point me to any threads that are just standalone kernels? Otherwise, a recommendation would be greatly appreciated.
Specifically, I'm looking for a kernel that works with WiFi tether. I've tried every app, changed all the apppropriate settings, and nothing works.
slapshot591 said:
I know there is a lot more development for the HTC phones I've previously owned, but where the heck are kernels on this damn thread? Most of the ones i'm finding are in "All-in-one" packages.
Can someone point me to any threads that are just standalone kernels? Otherwise, a recommendation would be greatly appreciated.
Specifically, I'm looking for a kernel that works with WiFi tether. I've tried every app, changed all the apppropriate settings, and nothing works.
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Rootzwiki bro..http://rootzwiki.com/topic/3426-kernel-gb-imoseyon-kernel-stock-repacked-v400-11611/
edit:also this http://rootzwiki.com/topic/137-kernel01-15-12peanutbutta-jelly-time/
jager420 said:
Rootzwiki bro..http://rootzwiki.com/topic/3426-kernel-gb-imoseyon-kernel-stock-repacked-v400-11611/
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Thanks for that. Unfortunately, his kernels don't support wifi-tether. Any tether app I attempt to load with the imoseyon 4.0.0 kernel, tethering tells me
Wow, aren't we demanding...
As I see it, you can run Imnuts kernel. You can run Imoseyon 4.0 kernel. You can run stock kernel and root it.
You can run Froyo if you want with its respective kernels.
I'm certain WiFi tether works on all the GB and likely most of the Froyo kernels (I tried all the Froyo kernels to my knowledge.) There are some active threads regarding Wifi tether in QandA as well as General.
My recommendation is to try stock deodexed/debloated EP4D with IMO 4.0 kernel or run Tweakstock with IMO 4.0 kernel. I think its a great kernel.
I'm sure that Infinity with Infinity kernel is pretty sweet too, I ran an earlier release of it.
The development for this phone is actually pretty good considering. There aren't too many options, but at least the options we do have are great, especially considering the hurdles that developers have had to cross to get it where we are now.
I can thank this phone for making me dive deeper into learning about Android than I otherwise would have if I had a phone that was easier to mod.
One its set up right, I prefer this phone over any other phone that is available today (on any carrier.)
SAMOLED+, Wolfson DAC, 4G, anyone?
slapshot591 said:
Thanks for that. Unfortunately, his kernels don't support wifi-tether. Any tether app I attempt to load with the imoseyon 4.0.0 kernel, tethering tells me
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Try this, go to this site:
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
click on the downloads tab and choose one of your choice, i tried the new versions and they did not work for me, wifi did not work after turning it off, so i use an older one:
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/detail?name=wifi_tether_v3_0-pre12.apk&can=1&q=
now install it,
once installed, open it, press the menu key then choose Settings and then go to the option "Change Device-Profile"
I've tried the "Samsung Captivate" and the "Samsung Epic 4G" options and they work i believe that the "Samsung Galaxy S" and the Samsung Fascinate" work as well.
Then go back and go to the option that says "Change Setup-Method" and choose "Softap for Samsung (master)"
the rest of the settings is up to you, i believe that there are certain forms of security protocols not supported but you do have access control that allows you to choose who you allow to connect through your phone
hope this helps
This has been supported by all kernels ive tried so far including stock, you just need root access
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slapshot591 said:
I know there is a lot more development for the HTC phones I've previously owned, but where the heck are kernels on this damn thread? Most of the ones i'm finding are in "All-in-one" packages.
Can someone point me to any threads that are just standalone kernels? Otherwise, a recommendation would be greatly appreciated.
Specifically, I'm looking for a kernel that works with WiFi tether. I've tried every app, changed all the apppropriate settings, and nothing works.
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Starting with Gingerbread, Verizon has blocked the ability of 3rd party apps to enable the stock wifi tethering app as you could with froyo, now you HAVE TO use other tethering apps such as the one i posted earlier
the one posted allows the phone to act as an AP(Access Point), other apps such as barnacle(available in the market) can only do ad-hoc or peer-to-peer sharing, this is sometimes not supported by some devices such as Xbox 360, and the Nintendo 3DS
xdadevnube said:
One its set up right, I prefer this phone over any other phone that is available today (on any carrier.)
SAMOLED+, Wolfson DAC, 4G, anyone?
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+100 to the rest of your post but this part is the essence of why I love this device. One additional thing is that this phone's camera performance is unsurpassed by any other phone I've seen. Others are blown away by the quality. With that said, I haven't messed with an nokia n8/n9, but I wouldn't want to daily those devices anyway so that's a moot point.
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You could also pay for tethering, then you shouldn't have any problems...
imnuts said:
You could also pay for tethering, then you shouldn't have any problems...
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Hahaha very true XD
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This has been supported by all kernels ive tried so far including stock, you just need root access.
This is very true!!. If having issue with wifi tet., just reflash your Image and try again. Sometime flashing Rom+Kernel too much without proper wiping can cause residual and corruption.
I know I'm some months late here but I wanted to thank you all for the input provided. I ended up using an older WiFi tethering app. This was for a coworker's phone, so that's why my question sounded so rushed/demading. Just picked up a Galaxy Note

Reason to root/custom Rom?

I've had a droid eris back in the day and that practically required a custom Rom in order to run well...with the s3 which has better stats than some of the computers I work with...what IS the advantage of rooting or using a custom Rom? We can install apks from unknown sources without root(sadly my nook tablet had to be rooted to do that)...we can disable most if not all the bloatware without root...we have plenty of on board storage so no absolute need to delete even the bloatware....just curious as to why you do root? Is it just the "geek"thing to do? Is the battery life that much better? Can't see it being much faster...I do however appreciate all the work people are doing developing for this device as I believe it will extend its life...so without further ado give me your reasons why you root/custom Rom....specifically this device?
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I root to use ad free, titanium backup, some of the extra features in tasker and occasionally Wi-Fi tether. Roms also bring features that were left out such as a brightness slider in the notifications, jelly bean animations and further optimizations are usually included. Plus there are those countless mods and themes that take care of your minor annoyances, and set your color/icon preferences just right.
Overall it makes a great phone even better
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First of all this should be In q&a but besides that customs roms from this phone will 1. Get you better battery life 2. Give you features that are desired from other phones 3. Give more customization options to the user 4. Well I mean better performance but its already blazing fast so its not too noticeable
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Feel free to move this thread if it should be in q&a....and ty for the responses already I'm still debating on rooting/roming my phone(even though my nook tablet I rooted/cm9 installed it the moment I got it lol) she some reason I'm more cautious with this a device than any other but from what I've read and what you all have said the advantages of rooting and using a custom Rom still apply even for as beefy a device as the g3....maybe I'll get bored later and try it out...another ? that may have been answered..does the k exec kernel lock out one of the cores? Thought I saw someone say that
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That picture is the main reason I root. Granted that is mostly standby but it is still amazing. I also like to use AdFree Android to get rid of any ads that may come up on my device. With this phone you mentioned it can't get much smoother and I agree. I am currently running a custom kernel with the Synergy ROM and I have my phone underclocked to 1.1GHz and it feels like it is still on stock because of what Synergy did to make the phone faster. Saves on battery A LOT in my opinion. If you are on the fence about rooting and ROMing I say go for it. The worst that will happen is you don't see the need and you Odin back to stock which will take you about 10 minutes. :laugh:
Excessiveidling said:
Feel free to move this thread if it should be in q&a....and ty for the responses already I'm still debating on rooting/roming my phone(even though my nook tablet I rooted/cm9 installed it the moment I got it lol) she some reason I'm more cautious with this a device than any other but from what I've read and what you all have said the advantages of rooting and using a custom Rom still apply even for as beefy a device as the g3....maybe I'll get bored later and try it out...another ? that may have been answered..does the k exec kernel lock out one of the cores? Thought I saw someone say that
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The rooting process for this phone is pain free and only takes a couple of minutes. At the very least, I would say root it and play around with some of the mods. I went about a week after I got my phone going stock/rooted and it was great, but Bean's Rom and Synergy are both fantastic.
And fwiw, kexec doesn't lock out a core.
Originally, my sole reason for rooting was to get rid of that annoying Verizon wifi notification/add back the wifi toggle.
In the process, I discovered SynergyROM, which seems promising. It has lots of customization options, including being able to choose which toggle you have. Not to mention, it also boosts you data/wifi speeds and gives phenomenal battery life.
Honestly, if I were on AT&T or some other network that didn't have the BS wifi notification, I wouldn't even have bothered rooting until my second year into the device, like I did with my Droid Eris.
On a side note: whoohoo! Ex Droid Eris buddy!
Actual Root
Relentless D said:
The rooting process for this phone is pain free and only takes a couple of minutes. At the very least, I would say root it and play around with some of the mods. I went about a week after I got my phone going stock/rooted and it was great, but Bean's Rom and Synergy are both fantastic.
And fwiw, kexec doesn't lock out a core.
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Are you referring to the work around root? And if so, will the work around yield the same results as having actually rooted the phone? I'm asking this cause I was under the impression Verizon still has the boot loader locked.
mal001 said:
Are you referring to the work around root? And if so, will the work around yield the same results as having actually rooted the phone? I'm asking this cause I was under the impression Verizon still has the boot loader locked.
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The Bootloader is still locked but you don't need it unlocked to root. There are workarounds (Kexec) for flashing roms.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1792342&
Relentless D said:
The Bootloader is still locked but you don't need it unlocked to root. There are workarounds (Kexec) for flashing roms.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1792342&
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You can flash Custom ROMs without kexec. You need to use kexec to flash custom kernels. Assuming you consider ROMs like synergy custom and don't only consider AOSP ROMs custom.
Haro912 said:
You can flash Custom ROMs without kexec. You need to use kexec to flash custom kernels. Assuming you consider ROMs like synergy custom and don't only consider AOSP ROMs custom.
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True. But despite my poor wording the point was that the locked bootloader doesn't mean we can't flash roms
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True. But despite my poor wording the point was that the locked bootloader doesn't mean we can't flash roms
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Yeah I know I just didn't want someone thinking they had to understand kexec to flash a TW rom with the stock kernel.
miui
Haro912 said:
Yeah I know I just didn't want someone thinking they had to understand kexec to flash a TW rom with the stock kernel.
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I habe rooted my s3 To be able To install miui which I think is the most beautiful Rom for the android
Excessiveidling said:
I've had a droid eris back in the day and that practically required a custom Rom in order to run well...with the s3 which has better stats than some of the computers I work with...what IS the advantage of rooting or using a custom Rom? We can install apks from unknown sources without root(sadly my nook tablet had to be rooted to do that)...we can disable most if not all the bloatware without root...we have plenty of on board storage so no absolute need to delete even the bloatware....just curious as to why you do root? Is it just the "geek"thing to do? Is the battery life that much better? Can't see it being much faster...I do however appreciate all the work people are doing developing for this device as I believe it will extend its life...so without further ado give me your reasons why you root/custom Rom....specifically this device?
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To get rid of the 'ongoing' wifi notification and put back the wifi toggle back in there too. That was my sole reason and have actually been okay with touchwiz so far.
I rooted to get root explorer
I would have left it alone but cut and paste self-corrupted and I needed root explorer to fix this
Since I was rooted anyway, I decided to install a rom to eliminate the wi fi notification too
asmallchild said:
I rooted to get root explorer
I would have left it alone but cut and paste self-corrupted and I needed root explorer to fix this
Since I was rooted anyway, I decided to install a rom to eliminate the wi fi notification too
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I had my S3 all of a day before I got the root itch. And that was after having an original moto droid rooted for over 2+ years.
I just like knowing I have the extra control if I need it.
Google now
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To get rid of the 'ongoing' wifi notification and put back the wifi toggle back in there too. That was my sole reason and have actually been okay with touchwiz so far.
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You can get rid of the wifi notification without rooting.*#6335623#
There, now no reason to root
My BIGGEST reason for rooting is because of updates. Anyone notice how the phones from the manufacturers just keep coming out back to back? I am tired of the fact that i can go buy a new just released phone, and before the first year is out, it seems the manufacturer quits updating the software. for example, if ICS came with the phone, unless it is the flagship phone, majority of the phones will not see a JB version. Even if the phone has not even been out for a year ( still under the 1 year warranty). this to me is BS, i think that they should be required to update all the software (assuming the HW can handle it) at least during the warranty period. they seem to just want you to buy a new phone to get the software. Rooting usually allows me to have access to the tools to update the phone myself through another Rom. I also like to have choices.
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You can get rid of the wifi notification without rooting.*#6335623#
There, now no reason to root
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That doesn't "get rid of" the wifi notification it disables it. It's still there, regardless of whether wifi is turned on or off, but now it just does nothing when you press on it. Personally, if it's going to be there either way, I'd rather it actually do something.
Getting to the original question:
Although I haven't rooted yet (I like to ride out my warranty first), here are the top reasons why I would do it:
- AdAway
- Titanium Backup
- Fully Functional Nova Launcher (read: widgets in drawer)
- ROMs & Mods
On my old Incredible, it was more for AdAway, Titianium, and other root-needing apps. Only later once ICS came out did I really dive into new ROMS.
This phone on the other hand, needs a new ROM right away! There are just too many things that piss me off about TouchWiz.
Things like:
- No Screenshot in Power Menu
- Toggles in notification pane not configurable
- Ongoing Wifi Notification instead of a Toggle
- No brightness slider in notification pane
- Manual arrangement of icons in a folder doesn't stick for more than a week
- App drawer icon isn't centered
- "Audio Applications" menu that shows up in notification pane when headphone are connected can't be configured to show apps I actually use
- No audio controls on lockscreen (standard lockscreen)
- Audio doesn't pause automatically when I unplug my headphones
- Audio sometimes starts up randomly when I plug in my headphones
- Audio volume steps down to ~85% when plugging in headphones
- Headphones/Speakers have separate volumes
And those are just the things that come to mind immediately.

[Q] Questions about the p509 and CM 10.1

I recently upgraded my rooted p509 running 2.2.2 Froyo to cm-10.1-20130604-EXPERIMENTAL-p500-gapps.zip, and then cm-10-20130108-UNOFFICIAL-p509.zip, both CM 10.1 builds (using the oldbbfix_signed.zip patch) and noticed that the wireless tethering wasn't working on either.
I was wondering if f it was an incompatibility with CM 10.1, or if using the old baseband on the newer roms might be the reason for the loss of wifi tethering? What is the advantage to flashing a newer baseband on p509?
I've looked around and seen that a few people say the newer baseband is faster and drains less battery, but I can't seem to find anything on whether or not it affects wifi tethering functionality, as this was one of my favorite features.
If anyone has been able to get wifi tethering working on CM 10.1 with a p509, I would love to hear how.
Thanks in advance!
Use a 3rd party app from google play
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pmvyas said:
Use a 3rd party app from google play
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Sweet, thanks for the heads up. Gonna reflash the nightly 10.1 and see if it works. Searching the google play store on my phone shows that there are 3rd party apps for tethering, and also some apps for rooted androids to 'fix' tethering. Do you have one that you prefer and find to work well? Thanks in advance.
Try Easy Wifi Tethering or Wifi tether for root users
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Try Easy Wifi Tethering or Wifi tether for root users
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Nice, tried both and they both worked. Does native Wifi Tethering just not work for CM 10.1? Also been having problems with GPS and bluetooth, but so far I can't find any reported bugs about those not working... I've read around that GPS errors can be related to the older baseband, and bluetooth / tethering are driver / rom related... is that true?
Sorry for all the questions, thanks for the tether apps though, really excited about 10.1. Thanks in advance!
True. I've flashed a few versions of this for tests, but as of now using ICS as my daily rom.
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Galaxy s Relay on AT&T network, non-working apps

I purchase the phone for a relative. Since he is on AT&T network, I figure I had to prep the phone. So far I have done the following:
1. Simm unlocked the phone. Tested using a Lycamobile pay as you go, which worked immediately after unlocking.
2. Update ROM to jelly bean. Benchmark indicated that it is faster.
However, the phone has a lot of Tmobile related stuff on it. For example
* I keep getting a popup saying that wifi calling isn't working. I believe this is a tmobile feature. I turned it off but it keeps notifying me that it's not turned on.
* There appears to be a list of stuff that may not be working:
Mobile Hotspot
Mobile Widget
Tmobile My account
Tmobile Name ID
Tmobile TV
If I get root, can they be deleted? If they are deleted, will this cause crashes? How do we get them back if say the person switches to Tmobile?
I also had some difficulty with the interface. Touchwiz is apparently different enough from stock to make things difficult. Hopefully, it won't be confusing to the user.
Paul
paul.siu said:
Benchmark indicated that it is faster.
Paul
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Which benchmark did you use?
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Which benchmark did you use?
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Antutu and Quadrant.
Paul
Above stated apps can be easily deleted without any consequences. I've made it also.
Deletion can be done through cmd or via uninstaller-apps (Titanium e.g.). Root required.
However you cannot revert to them again after deletion therefore it makes sense to backup them if you want.
WiFi-Calling can be switched off through Settings->More settings->WiFi-Calling->Disabled.
No notifications, no popups at all.
Being your relative is on att then you will find it best to root the phone and get rid of any T-Mobile garbage, better yet just use one of the many amazing custom ROMs here which are far better/faster/more stable than stock and won't come with any T-Mobile apps
Best of luck!
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demkantor said:
Being your relative is on att then you will find it best to root the phone and get rid of any T-Mobile garbage, better yet just use one of the many amazing custom ROMs here which are far better/faster/more stable than stock and won't come with any T-Mobile apps
Best of luck!
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Well, he's not the custom rom sort of guy. He probably want stock everything. This is the first time I used Touchwiz, and I have to say that I am not a fan. When you install an app, it's not sorted in any reasonable order and it took me a while to figure out how to hide the keyboard.
What's the best way to backup the phone?
Paul
Backup in recovery, then try some custom ROMs out. Even if he isn't a custom ROM sorta guy he will be better with one, besides most are closer to stock android than any touchwiz ROM anyway.
But of course choice is between you and him
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paul.siu said:
Well, he's not the custom rom sort of guy. He probably want stock everything. This is the first time I used Touchwiz, and I have to say that I am not a fan. When you install an app, it's not sorted in any reasonable order and it took me a while to figure out how to hide the keyboard.
What's the best way to backup the phone?
Paul
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I would root the phone and install a custom recovery, then you can back up the stock ROM. You will have to be rooted to delete system apps, anyway. If you decide to stay with the stock ROM, you can use an app (l use App Master in the Play Store) to delete all the proprietary garbage you don't want. This app let's you create a little recovery file of the deleted apps, if you want to put them back some day. Just clearing away the stuff you don't need will help but I would still go with a custom ROM, especially since you're going to all the trouble already.
It appears that you can just disable the app through the app manager. I disable to tmobile app that way so that the effect is not permanent.
Paul
paul.siu said:
It appears that you can just disable the app through the app manager. I disable to tmobile app that way so that the effect is not permanent.
Paul
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Please remember that the Relay has been abandoned by the manufacturer. Unpatched and outdated OS software is risky on any computer--including a mobile device. For your friend's safety and privacy, you really should consider abandoning the out of date "stock" operating system (that will never be patched).
There is an official release of CyanogenMod available that can automatically update. Any owner of a Relay would be a fool to stick with the stock Jelly Bean Touchwiz.
Just my two cents.
FYI to whoever needs this, I recently started using my Relay on ATT and it works great. 4G is faster than tmobile's. And i'm on a custom ROM.

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