A word of Caution - G Tablet General

After installing a custom ROM, I discovered I should have repartitioned my internal sd card, and fix permissions.
So, I carefully backed-up my data and started the process.
Everything was going as expected. Right up to rebooting the system. BEFORE REBOOTING THE SYSTEM RESTORE THE DATA. I didn't, and lost everything.
This is the best website I've found for newbie like me. Use it, study it, and don't make the mistake I made.
http://viewsonic-gtablet-for-dummies.webs.com/repartition.htm
Have fun and be careful out there.
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Or use a program like Titanium Backup to back your data up onto an external SD card rather than the internal one?
Or am I missing something here?

Titanim can save your apps and data but not what you have saved on your SD. With a repartition it is a clean wipe of your SD so all is lost, even the backup you have made through cwm that you might have forgotten to move to your PC pre format. Keep a nand backup on your PC at all times, I do a weakly backup and toss it on my PC. That way if I have a bad flash and need to repartition I'm not loosing much. Also I have a starting point other than a stock rom to work with after a full restore.luck favors the prepared ;-)

captirwin said:
This is the best website I've found for newbie like me. Use it, study it, and don't make the mistake I made.
http://viewsonic-gtablet-for-dummies.webs.com/repartition.htm
Have fun and be careful out there.
Don't forget to donate too.
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I wanted to switch to a ROM with a 1.2 Bootloader, but I was weary of all the steps involved. I went to this site, and he saved me a lot of time. After fighting to get my tablet to connect to my PC, it only took a few minutes to get to 1.2BL with a new ClockWorkMod version.

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[Q] Clockwork and wiping data question...

Ok simple question I know but its in not easy to get a DEFINITIVE answer for (yes I have searched). When the time comes for me to install a custom ROM to my beloved Nexus S, it is highly recommended to do a full system wipe....fine, but does this leave my precious SD saved files intact or is it literally a nuclear option wipe? Apologies for this simplistic question but I prefer caution to bravery
You're forced into it anyway, unlocking the phone wipes it.
Rusty! said:
You're forced into it anyway, unlocking the phone wipes it.
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Thanks for that, I am unlocked and rooted, did that the day I got it and realised that procedure would kill the SD card. Does the same apply to, for example, loading cyanogen off rom manager? I mean would my nandroid backup of my current rom still be in the Clockwork backup folder on the SD card after a wipe? (I got it saved to my laptop anyway) Thanks
It leaves your sd contents intact. The wipe just clears out everything for the operating system like your apps. Just always make a backup to pc just in case.
Very good, thank you for the advice. I will backup all possible things and all will be fine. I worried that with the SD card being internal on the Nexus S that it made a wipe that much more complete!
willcpfc said:
Very good, thank you for the advice. I will backup all possible things and all will be fine. I worried that with the SD card being internal on the Nexus S that it made a wipe that much more complete!
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Since you're rooted I suggest you get Titanium backup. Go for the paid version, it makes restoring everything much easier.
icandy75 said:
Since you're rooted I suggest you get Titanium backup. Go for the paid version, it makes restoring everything much easier.
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Got it I do titanium backup's, Nandroid backups with Clockwork, and just for completeness save the lot to the laptop....I should pop it all on a memory stick just in case my laptop packs up! Where others boldly go......I follow behind with caution
That's actually quite funny. So far I have yet to have an issue with my NS wiping SD card so I would say you SHOULD be safe. I did however loose EVERYTHING twice when testing different roms and kernels with my Vibrant so now like yourself I backup EVERYTHING. When restoring with Ti I suggest you only restore you apps and not full system. That has been known to cause issues.
Agreed. Titanium for apps only. I guess it would not be the end of the world to lose everything but it would be a hell of a job to put it all back how it used to be......and that scares me man!! And thanks for the advice to my reassuring but simple questions.
If you have Titanium Pro, you can also backup to dropbox so you always have it with you on the go. Well, sort of anyways.

[Q] How to Backup my Data

I have been told I need to do a "Factory Data Reset" to a) clear out phantom crap-data from my built-in storage (now at 4% free space), and b) stop my phone from random double SMS posts.
I see several Market options for backup but none look very appealing nor do they guarantee to backup everything. Several require your phone to be rooted (mine isn't). Free apps don't backup everything and paid apps only back up the the SD Card but mine is nearly full.
Some on this forum say they can do it all by hand but I have no idea how.
Can't I just plug it into my laptop and move the files over?
This is my first Android phone and I would like to eventually ROOT the phone but I am not there yet. Perhaps this is the next step towards being comfortable doing that.
Some Market Apps, like MyBackup Pro, will back up to the "cloud" but at a price: MyBackup Pro comes with 50MB of free cloud storage, which you can upgrade to 250MB for $1 per month or 1GB for $2 per month.
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I have been told I need to do a "Factory Data Reset" to a) clear out phantom crap-data from my built-in storage (now at 4% free space), and b) stop my phone from random double SMS posts.
I see several Market options for backup but none look very appealing nor do they guarantee to backup everything. Free apps don't backup everything and paid apps only back up the the SD Card but mine is nearly full.
Some on this forum say they can do it all by hand but I have no idea how.
Can't I just plug it into my laptop and move the files over?
This is my first Android phone and I would like to eventually ROOT the phone but I am not there yet. Perhaps this is the next step towards being comfortable doing that.
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titanium backup pro works very well
tylermaciaszek said:
titanium backup pro works very well
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But doesn't that only work for ROOTED phones?
ncmacasl said:
But doesn't that only work for ROOTED phones?
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thats right sorry forgot you werent rooted
try this vv
http://free-mobile-messenger.com/2011/03/09/backup-everything-1-0-apk/
And that app only saves to the SD card. Mine is FULL
Where do you want to save it to? anywhere but the sdcard will be wiped in any sort of flashing, making it a useless backup. the only logical place to backup your data is your sdcard, and then copying that backup to your computer.
How do I safely move stuff off the SD Card to make more room for the backup?How much room will the backup take? Does the backup only backup the Phone storage or also the SD Storage? (FYI, I have Astro File Manager)
Backing up the sdcard would be an oxymoron, as trying to backup your sdcard to your sdcard would never work, that would be like trying to make 1 + something try to be less than 1. You can plug your phone in as a Mass Storage Device, which will use your phone essentially as a flash drive, and you can add or delete as you please. If you're worried about deleting something, copy it to your computer rather than deleting it outright. Backing up should take about 500 MB if you're using Nandroid, but you're not rooted, and I'm not familiar with the posted backup. Backing up without rooting is very difficult
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...Backing up without rooting is very difficult
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Yeah that is why I am posting. many of us non-root-ers want to be able to do this, and also, aren't you supposed to backup your system BEFORE you attempt to ROOT? How does everyone else do it??
OK So I Sideload everything from the SD Card to the laptop, then delete everything from the SD Card, then backup the phone storage stuff to the SD Card, then move THAT File/folder to the laptop.
Is that right??
Rooting is non-invasive, I've never backed up before rooting. Rooting just edits permissions on one file, which no non-rooted backup app can backup anyways.
If you wanted to backup that way, then yes, that would work, but if you're looking to backup before you root, I would say don't even bother, as it will not backup the phone system anyways, as no non-rooted app can do that.
If rooting is so "non-invasive" then why do you read so many warnings that if you don't do it **JUST RIGHT** you can totally BRICK your phone??
Also what do you mean by "not backup the phone system"?
Rooting can't brick your phone, flashing kernels and bootloaders can. The actual phone files, the operating system files, cannot be backed up by a non-rooted phone, as they are privileged. Rooting only installs the SuperUser.apk to manage super user rights, as well as changing the privileges on the system's super user binary so that you as a user can use it. all that to say, it's not a big deal to root, but what you do once you get root is what can cause issues. And if you brick yourself, no backup is going to help you, as by definition, bricking is beyond repair.

Please help!!

I tried to flash 2.3.5 to my galaxy s 4g and it was a bad rom so I tried to put it back the stock+root ROM using ODIN. Now whenever I turn my phone on it just keeps rebootiing I have been trying to get it fixed but whatever I do it just seems to keep rebooting. Sorry if there is a fix and I didnt see it but its late and im very stressed now that my phone isnt working.....
What do you mean you flashed a bad ROM? Can you be more specific?
Try doing a battery pull and reflashing it in Odin.
yea, just follow the NOOBS GUIDE TO ODIN in the BIBLE. from there, you should be fine. instead of using KB5, i would recommend using Raver's KC1 (search for it). that will give you a fresh start.
Sorry I was really tired and stressed out last night but I got it to work finally. I just put 2.3.4 on it and it worked right away. I do have another question though. This is the first time I have ever actually flashed a ROM on my phone. Is there a way to get all the apps back that were on my SD card or do I have to re-download all of them? Also if I have to re-download all the apps is there a way I can get my saves back for the game?
onlyonthursday said:
Sorry I was really tired and stressed out last night but I got it to work finally. I just put 2.3.4 on it and it worked right away. I do have another question though. This is the first time I have ever actually flashed a ROM on my phone. Is there a way to get all the apps back that were on my SD card or do I have to re-download all of them? Also if I have to re-download all the apps is there a way I can get my saves back for the game?
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I maybe be wrong. But your apps are saved on your phone. some off the data from these apps might be saved on your sd card, and some may not. In the future, prior to flashing a rom, in stall a program called titanium backup from the market. It will backup all your apps and data in one click to your sd card. then once u flash a new rom install TB first and restore those apps. they will all have there log ins, games will be where u left them, ect.
But for now, yes u have to use the market to restore the apps one by one.
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I maybe be wrong. But your apps are saved on your phone. some off the data from these apps might be saved on your sd card, and some may not. In the future, prior to flashing a rom, in stall a program called titanium backup from the market. It will backup all your apps and data in one click to your sd card. then once u flash a new rom install TB first and restore those apps. they will all have there log ins, games will be where u left them, ect.
But for now, yes u have to use the market to restore the apps one by one.
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I figured I would. I will see if I can look through the files and get any save files. Is it ok to re-format my SD card after saving every thing i need? Just so I can start off fresh?
you can back everything up by making a nandroid backup.
go into cwm, backup and restore and select backup. then when you want to restore after flashing a rom, go to backup and restore, then go to advanced and then restore data. that should do it
jager555 said:
you can back everything up by making a nandroid backup.
go into cwm, backup and restore and select backup. then when you want to restore after flashing a rom, go to backup and restore, then go to advanced and then restore data. that should do it
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This is only to help me before I flash right? I'm kinda screwed as of right now and have to start from scratch. No big deal to me really just means I lost all my saved games. Is it ok to re-format my SD card right now?
if you reformat, you will lose everything on the sd...so its up to you. after you've flashed the rom, you can take it out and reformat and the rom will run fine, if that is what you mean.
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if you reformat, you will lose everything on the sd...so its up to you. after you've flashed the rom, you can take it out and reformat and the rom will run fine, if that is what you mean.
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Ya i know I will lose everything. I already backed up everything. But I have one problem. My phone won't let me click on re-format for the SD card. Should I use my comp to re-format it?
make sure you unmount it first. or you can boot into cwm and format the sd
First Go into Download Mode
this is how you do it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1069032
Then You Already know How To odin So just do your normal Procedure and you should be okay heres the Bible incase you need Anything else its all here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117554&highlight=bible
if anything just msg me but ill keep reading your thread to see if u fixed it... =)

root g2x gingerbread with cwm and custom rom

gingerbread seems to be difficult to root. i have been following the instructions on this page http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1255214 and using all the links provided there which also takes me to another cool site called theUnlockr. following those directions as well.
i do have the abd drivers installed, the tegra usb drivers installed and the cwm on the phone and the zip file stored on the sd.
on to my questions.
first set of directions have me just installing the zip from sd, another site has me wiping data and cache. which is correct?
next if i back up my current stock gingerbread rom (nandroid) and it is on the sd card will it not be removed with the wipe if wiping is the correct option? Ok lets say a wipe does not remove the backup, can i move it to my computer and if i need it copy it back to the cwm backup folder?
sure look forward to the replies.
thanx gene
gene7oh said:
gingerbread seems to be difficult to root. i have been following the instructions on this page http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1255214 and using all the links provided there which also takes me to another cool site called theUnlockr. following those directions as well.
i do have the abd drivers installed, the tegra usb drivers installed and the cwm on the phone and the zip file stored on the sd.
on to my questions.
first set of directions have me just installing the zip from sd, another site has me wiping data and cache. which is correct?
next if i back up my current stock gingerbread rom (nandroid) and it is on the sd card will it not be removed with the wipe if wiping is the correct option? Ok lets say a wipe does not remove the backup, can i move it to my computer and if i need it copy it back to the cwm backup folder?
sure look forward to the replies.
thanx gene
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Hey Gene! To answer your questions:
1. I'd try it without wiping first and if that works then you're lucky and don't need to wipe.
2. When you do a Nandroid it saves it to the MicroSD and so wiping will NOT delete it. If you want to be on the safe side though, feel free to copy (don't remove it, just copy it) the entire backup folder inside the nandroid folder from the sd to the computer. When you need to put it back on the phone simply replace the backup folder again by copying it back.
Good luck!
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hey Dave thanx for the advice i do have a few more questions but first i want to say i'm a member of your humble site. love the new social networking thingy. Well new to me anyway. I see the post that started it all opened about 4 months ago.
i don't have an external sd card. i was assuming (that can get you burnt) the the phones sd card would be untouched. seems kinda strange to have that part affected by an ota update and the like. i know when i got the phone i had to wait for the update and when it came i installed but don't remember if there was a wipe or not. personally i think it should. clean installs always work better you ask me. but if it did wipe i don't recall losing my apps and such.
but just so i got this straight, the phone has two partitions. one where the os is installed along with all them nasty bloatware things t-mobile installed along with what google installs, and then the other partition is the mmt/sd_card? that is where astro file manager keeps all of its back ups. last there is a slot for another sd card which is read as what appears to me mass storage. is it the last card i need to have in order to not lose data or is the mmt/sd_card sufficient?
I guess the worst case is i have to re install all my apps, but please if you don't tell me anything else tell me that clockworkMod is unaffected.
thanx for your time i'll see ya at the unlockr.

[Q] PLEASE Help

Hello everyone, for starters im a complete newb at rooting phones and have never before tonight so please excuse my ignorance. I just rooted my phone which went fine, downloaded titanium backup and backed up everything, and then moved a zip of m1 cm10 and gapps onto my ext sd card. then i followed a video on how to install these. i was running clockwork recovery and did a factory reset/clear. in the video, the next screen had an option for "choose zip from sd", all mine had was something like update from external so i clicked that and it brought up my sd card files, including the cm10 and gapps files. i clicked on them (i tried each more than once) and they both stgarted to install then said failed. Im literally here freaking out because none of the apps i downloaded to restore my stuff are on my phone anymore, and when i downloaded them from the play store they said i had not backed anything up. somebody please help me, im legitimately having a nervous breakdown because i lost everything and dont know what to do.
Ok first things first. What was the fail error that CWM produced? I dont understand what you mean by none of the apps you downloaded to restore your stuff are on the phone anymore. Where did they go? If you didnt delete them they should still be there. Did you boot up after the failed attempt, and are now at a factory state OS? Perhaps titanium isnt pointed to the correct location of the backups you made. Please provide more info.
Edit: Ok I misunderstood a point. The apps I take it are gone from the factory reset, but I still dont understand why the backup data cant be restored.
Sounds like CWM didn't flash. That sounds like stock recovery. Flash factory image via Odin, reroot, and reinstall CWM. Download an app called EZ Recovery from the market and follow the instructions. You will be fine.
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Just a side note as far as using CWM goes:
I've noticed that with CWM, the backup file sizes are way too small. Hence a possible corrupted backup folder. TWRP seems to work better with our device as far as backups go.
It's always a good idea to check the size of a backup afterwards before proceeding with any risky procedures like low level flashing. Luckily there is always ODIN.
With my device backup sizes range between 2.0GB and 2.34GB.
tekrhino said:
Just a side note as far as using CWM goes:
I've noticed that with CWM, the backup file sizes are way too small. Hence a possible corrupted backup folder. TWRP seems to work better with our device as far as backups go.
It's always a good idea to check the size of a backup afterwards before proceeding with any risky procedures like low level flashing. Luckily there is always ODIN.
With my device backup sizes range between 2.0GB and 2.34GB.
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You've got to remember that CWM backs up differently now. It backs up data separately in blobs in a different folder. So your backups in clockwork are naturally smaller. Also, I've heard nothing but bad things with TWRP on this device. I'd stay away from it and stick with non touch CWM.
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You've got to remember that CWM backs up differently now. It backs up data separately in blobs in a different folder. So your backups in clockwork are naturally smaller. Also, I've heard nothing but bad things with TWRP on this device. I'd stay away from it and stick with non touch CWM.
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This!
apacseven said:
Ok first things first. What was the fail error that CWM produced? I dont understand what you mean by none of the apps you downloaded to restore your stuff are on the phone anymore. Where did they go? If you didnt delete them they should still be there. Did you boot up after the failed attempt, and are now at a factory state OS? Perhaps titanium isnt pointed to the correct location of the backups you made. Please provide more info.
Edit: Ok I misunderstood a point. The apps I take it are gone from the factory reset, but I still dont understand why the backup data cant be restored.
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When I open titanium backup and try to restore, it tells me no backups have been performed. Before trying to flash cm10, I moved the backup to my external sdcard and it is still there, yet I still can't restore it and when I try to do something with the files on my card it says no application can perform this task. Ive gotten my contacts back through tha app I backed them up on so I'm at a loss for why tb Isnt working.
levibernhardt said:
When I open titanium backup and try to restore, it tells me no backups have been performed. Before trying to flash cm10, I moved the backup to my external sdcard and it is still there, yet I still can't restore it and when I try to do something with the files on my card it says no application can perform this task. Ive gotten my contacts back through tha app I backed them up on so I'm at a loss for why tb Isnt working.
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Launch titanium and hit menu/preferences. From there you can change the backup location to wherever you moved it to and it should see them.
Also for your contacts... If you are planning on flashing roms do yourself a favor a migrate your contacts off your phone and on to Google. That way you just log back in to your Google account after a re flash and they are all resynced. Plus you can access them from anywhere at contacts.Google.com
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Launch titanium and hit menu/preferences. From there you can change the backup location to wherever you moved it to and it should see them.
Also for your contacts... If you are planning on flashing roms do yourself a favor a migrate your contacts off your phone and on to Google. That way you just log back in to your Google account after a re flash and they are all resynced. Plus you can access them from anywhere at contacts.Google.com
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Did this ^ in titanium and the files show up, but it still says there is nothing to restore.
Also, could someone tell me/point me to a good method of flashing M1 cm10 onto a us cellular gs3?
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You've got to remember that CWM backs up differently now. It backs up data separately in blobs in a different folder. So your backups in clockwork are naturally smaller. Also, I've heard nothing but bad things with TWRP on this device. I'd stay away from it and stick with non touch CWM.
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I agree 100%, the non-touch version of CWM works perfectly. I could care less about touch/non-touch/color of the app etc. ALL I care about is the capability to do a sucessful restore & CWM has never failed me for that.
I did a restore from it last night & it worked perfectly. The ONLY thing I have ever had to do after a CWM restore is clear data in GMAIL to get it to send.

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