When I switched between my nandroid backups (all stock 2.1), then how come I dont have to factory reset after restoring that back up?(unlike when switching to dexter's rom I need to factory reset) anyone care to explain?? Any help would be appreciated!!
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At least from my point of view, it's easier to tell people to factory reset than to hunt down and fix obscure problems. One of the first troubleshooting steps will probably be factory reset anyway. My feeling is more advanced users figure out their own thing. I used to post elaborate instructions, but more possibilities/options just confuses the least experienced users. It saves a lot of hassle to just post the single most sure-fire set of instructions and then help people that want to try different things later. At least that is my current philosophy.
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When you factory reset with our custom Roms it isn't like when you do it on a stock phone and you get the green Android welcome screen. The long and short of it, as I have read, is that if you created the nandroid, ie backup, you wont need to do the factory reset, just wipe dex and cache partitions. If you are moving between "fresh" Roms like from Dexter or Khals to Miui, then I would do it for sure to make sure you have a clean slate to start your modding. But I agree with Mio, number one thing I do when I have an issue is do a factory reset and move from there.
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When you factory reset with our custom Roms it isn't like when you do it on a stock phone and you get the green Android welcome screen. The long and short of it, as I have read, is that if you created the nandroid, ie backup, you wont need to do the factory reset, just wipe dex and cache partitions. If you are moving between "fresh" Roms like from Dexter or Khals to Miui, then I would do it for sure to make sure you have a clean slate to start your modding. But I agree with Mio, number one thing I do when I have an issue is do a factory reset and move from there.
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So if i want to switch from my dexter 2.2 rom to my 2.1 nandroid backup, i have factory reset?
I think that if you are only switching from back ups that you already made, you don't have to, but I wipe dex, cache partitions and factory reset everytime. Like I said above, it is always good to have a clean slate to start off with. From what I have gathered, it doesn't wipe everything clean, it wipes everything clean back to your back up point. In my experience, everything will still be there (except for a few passwords), there being the point that you made a back up. Oh also forgot about this key factor. When I back up, I do the top 5 and maybe the sd-ext depending on if I have purchased anything new. Loosely think of it as a restore point in Windows. The reset will only reset to the data backup that you made, nothing beyond or before.
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So if i want to switch from my dexter 2.2 rom to my 2.1 nandroid backup, i have factory reset?
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I'm not so sure about that. I can imagine Android has features to upgrade things like sqlite databases forward from 2.1 to 2.2, but I doubt 2.1 knows how to downgrade from 2.2. For jumping between OS releases, I'd use something like Titanium Backup to copy apps and preferences. But moving laterally i.e. 2.2 to 2.2 or 2.1 to 2.1 it's more likely to be ok.
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Hi,
I upgraded my Samsung I9000, from Éclair 2.1 to Froyo 2.2, with Odin, (everything is working fine), but...
My question is;
If I do a Hardware Reset does the phone downgrades to is factory default, in this case "Éclair 2.1", or it stays with the last OS installed?
Does anyone knows what happens??
Cheers,
Striken
A hard reset is different than a master reset. Hard reset only entails removing the battery from the device.
To answer your question, once flashed with a ROM, performing a MASTER reset, will bring the phone back to "factory" defaults, i.e. just like it was the very first time you booted it AFTER installing the custom ROM.
Hope that helps.
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A hard reset is different than a master reset. Hard reset only entails removing the battery from the device.
To answer your question, once flashed with a ROM, performing a MASTER reset, will bring the phone back to "factory" defaults, i.e. just like it was the very first time you booted it AFTER installing the custom ROM.
Hope that helps.
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Thanks Man,
You are talking in a Master Reset, how exactly do you do that?
When I did a software reset it erases everything on the phone, contacts, apps I installed, everything except what belongs to the Rom I installed. Also the phone stayed like when was installed for the first time...
From what I've read an Hard reset puts the phone to is factory defaults, but when I did a soft reset it also stayed "brand new", like factory default.
My question is: does a hard reset erases the rom I installed and puts my phone like it was before I upgraded with Froyo 2.2?
I never heard anything regarding a "Master Reset", can you explain me more?
Thanks,
Striken
Also interested in learning how to Master Reset before playing with ROMs.
Bookmarked for later, thanks!
Hi Kops,
If you also learn anything about it please post it here ok?
Thanks
I believe you can find the stock firmware for your phone (2.1 or 2.2) and use ODIN to flash to that. By doing so, you will revert to 100% stock settings, no root, and no proof that you've flashed your phone at all.
In my opinion, this is your best bet for a "full reset".
When you flash a new firmware, the firmware is permanently installed. Performing a factory reset will NOT revert your phone to its older version. Only a reflash will do this.
Factory reset only resets things that are stored in user data space. Such as your contacts, custom settings and any apps that you have installed (not counting those that Samsung/Google have put into the system)
So there you have it. You can safely perform that reset if you want.
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When you flash a new firmware, the firmware is permanently installed. Performing a factory reset will NOT revert your phone to its older version. Only a reflash will do this.
Factory reset only resets things that are stored in user data space. Such as your contacts, custom settings and any apps that you have installed (not counting those that Samsung/Google have put into the system)
So there you have it. You can safely perform that reset if you want.
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Thanks for the help guys,
So, there's no difference between a soft and hard reset? Or is the factory reset an hard reset?
When I did a factory reset it erases everything and restored the phone to is default settings.
So, the only way to put the phone back like it was when I purchased is installing Eclair 2.1 again...
Thanks,
The only way to get 2.1 back is by reinstalling an official samsung firmware. Yes. If you have an official samsung firmware though, the phone is as it should be.
A soft boot is generally where you send the device a reboot command or turn it off and back on. A hard boot to reiterate generally happens after the battery is removed and reinstalled. This is not what is known as a factory reset and will not modify anything.
A factory reset formats the userdata and cache partitions and resets all settings to default including deleting any apps that were not installed on the factory firmware.
I hope this has answered your question.
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It did, thanks.
The only problem is that I never found an official Samsung firmware, in this case the Eclair 2.1 from Vodafone.
If you know any site that have that Rom please share it
I would like to have it so I can restore the phone in an urgency...
Cheers,
Try samfirmwares.com
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Try samfirmwares.com
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Already try that. They don't have it.
Or www.samsungfirmwares.com. they have an extensive collection of i9000 roms. Vodaphone is on the 3rd I9000 page.
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Or www.samsungfirmwares.com. they have an extensive collection of i9000 roms. Vodaphone is on the 3rd I9000 page.
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Thanks man,
Don't want to be a pain, but just one more thing if you or anybody knows...
When I both my phone it came with Eclair 2.1 from Vodafone like I said.
You presented me with a page that have the 2.1 stock Rom from Vodafone, but, originally the phone had a Vodafone startup animated logo.
Do you know if the rom in that page has that animation startup?
Thanks,
P.S. One more thing, when I said that I didn't find anything in that site I was mistaken, it was not that website but samfirmware.com website.
Thanks again,
Its a stock rom. Just like the one that shipped inside your phone. It will have all of the features of the ROM you started out with.
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You can remove all user data that is located on internal memory by typing *2767*3855# in dial pad and NO it won't downgrade to previous firmware.
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Its a stock rom. Just like the one that shipped inside your phone. It will have all of the features of the ROM you started out with.
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You can remove all user data that is located on internal memory by typing *2767*3855# in dial pad and NO it won't downgrade to previous firmware.
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Thanks for all the help guys!
Just one thing all of the firmware in samsungfirmwares.com have a download option but without any link...
How can I download?
You have to register to download if I remember correctly.
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You have to register to download if I remember correctly.
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Hi,
I've try that but theres no option for register a new user there.
I manage to download else where.
Many thanks!
As posted in the gummy thread, I am experiencing my home button not functioning. Good news i narrowed it down. My roms are good and when fresh the home button operates normally. I have been up and down flashing left and right between GB and Froyo and the roms that overlay them. Titanium backup is the issue, or rather me backing up. yesterday I flashed to EE4 Eclipse pbj coming from GB NAMELESS Eclipse. I restored and that's where the problem showed. My dock went to just applications and none of my buttons worked except for holding power button. I booted to CWM and cleaned cache and wiped, i was left with a working fresh rom.... So now i have the same problem again when restored system i lost my home button, I filtered the restoration files too, only did contacts,mms and things along that line... My question what is the bad restore that i'm doing and how can i fix my current bad restore without losing everything?
thanks Jeff
I noticed that issue with earlier versions of nameless. perhaps it is something with that.
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although currently i'm not running nameless maybe it autobackuped up part of the system when NAMELESS was on my device. Restoring must change a file that isn't compatible with other kernels. If only i could pinpoint the restoration file that does it and get a fake file to replace it
So randomly after 2 manual starts I lost all the launcher icons and no longer have a lock screen. This occurred after I installed a boot animation app. changed my logo, execpt I restarted once and everything was intact. The second restart was where problems arises. Tomorrow im wiping and restoring apps only. Thanks for the help nitro
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Simple solution. Don't restore system data. Restoring system data can play havoc with your device when coming from and to different roms. Think about it, some of those system settings you are trying to restore might not even exist on another rom. Stick to restoring user apps, and select user app data, and then get practiced in redoing system settings after a wipe. You'll get used to it doing this over and over. It takes me only 20-30 minutes to go from completely wiped back to my usual setup.
Remember, when restoring data, less is more.
Yep thays what I was thinking. Purchased titanium pro now im back after factory reset not flash
tcollum said:
Simple solution. Don't restore system data. Restoring system data can play havoc with your device when coming from and to different roms. Think about it, some of those system settings you are trying to restore might not even exist on another rom. Stick to restoring user apps, and select user app data, and then get practiced in redoing system settings after a wipe. You'll get used to it doing this over and over. It takes me only 20-30 minutes to go from completely wiped back to my usual setup.
Remember, when restoring data, less is more.
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Please Help,
For some reason everytime I try to use CWM to restore a backup, I always get a boot loop. The first time it happened to me was because I was on Infused(GB) and tried to restore back to Infused(froyo). Atleast, after doing some reading that was what I thought caused it anyway.
Yesterday I was on Infused 2.2.1. I then made a backup. Next I flashed to 2.2.2. I Then decided to go back to 2.2.1 by restoring the backup I just made. I was then in a boot loop. I had to go back to stock and start over.
I am now on Infused 2.2.2. My phone is working really great at the moment. Everyone was complaining about inaccurate GPS. Mine is locking in 5 seconds and accuracy of 5 to 6 meters all the time!!
Ok, The point of all of this is. I want to make a reliable backup of my phone in the state it is in right now.
Am I doing something wrong when I try to restore from a backup? I always wipe cache partition and wipe dalvik cache and then restrore then reboot.
Any help on this would be greatly appreciated!!
Move between same version of android, not different versions.
Say, u r on 2.2.2 now, and then u go to Froyo. If u want to get back, do a clean install of 2.2.2 and then go to recovery and restore
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Move between same version of android, not different versions.
Say, u r on 2.2.2 now, and then u go to Froyo. If u want to get back, do a clean install of 2.2.2 and then go to recovery and restore
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I am pretty sure that's what happened to me the first time.
I just cant explain the second time. 2.2.1, make backup, flash to 2.2.2. then restore back to 2.2.1....boot loop.
I'm starting to wonder if nandroid backups in CWM are broken for us... I haven't had a chance to really test it myself but this isn't the first time I've seen reports of the problem.
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I'm starting to wonder if nandroid backups in CWM are broken for us... I haven't had a chance to really test it myself but this isn't the first time I've seen reports of the problem.
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Is there any other way I can I make a reliable backup that you know of?
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Is there any other way I can I make a reliable backup that you know of?
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Any time I move between roms, I make a clean install of the rom, and restore the backup of the same rom, clear dalvik cache and cache and reboot. I know its a lil roundabout process, but it works.
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Any time I move between roms, I make a clean install of the rom, and restore the backup of the same rom, clear dalvik cache and cache and reboot. I know its a lil roundabout process, but it works.
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Ok. I will try this next time I need to restore.
Thanks for taking the time to try and help me out.
I'm wondering if there's a good way to do a complete factory reset (sdcard wipe, radio reset, system reset). I'm running Android Revolution right now, I think I effed up when I was changing radios, the phone is really buggy right now. Is there a good process for this? I'm not super skilled, but if somebody could list some steps to take, that would be very helpful, thanks!
Nevermind. Shouldve looked at the hack kit more closely.
spierson1337 said:
I'm wondering if there's a good way to do a complete factory reset (sdcard wipe, radio reset, system reset). I'm running Android Revolution right now, I think I effed up when I was changing radios, the phone is really buggy right now. Is there a good process for this? I'm not super skilled, but if somebody could list some steps to take, that would be very helpful, thanks!
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If a factory wipe in CWM + install custom rom doesn't work, then you've got bigger problems and a complete factory reset to stock isn't going to help.
People seem to have a gross misconception on just what "rooted" means. It's not like some super secret process running in some hidden location on the phone (like a rootkit in linux) but just a single bit flipped in the radio hardware. S-ON/S-OFF is just a switch. It's on or it's off and there's really nothing more to it than that; it's just that to actually get to that switch, you need to jump through a lot of hoops.
Ok so I have Vahalla Final flashed through Odin as my first ROM on this phone. Everything has been great for a few days and I flashed the lighting tweak today with no issues. Just a little while ago I made a backup and flashed the Linda voices and the Ki3 modem bc I saw where the KJ6 didn't allow long text messages. When I flashed the modem some blue words popped up really zoomed in on another screen then it was done. The phone was laggy so i tried to delete everything and restore like I had done numerous times on old phone.
I did a factory reset then cache then tried to format system. These are all steps i used to successfully take on other phone. It won't let me format the system though. Says: "format_volume failed to mount "/system" error formatting system!"
Where did I go wrong? Am I supposed to do some more wacky things on this phone for a restore? Everything else on it seems to take 20 more steps
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Ok so I have Vahalla Final flashed through Odin as my first ROM on this phone. Everything has been great for a few days and I flashed the lighting tweak today with no issues. Just a little while ago I made a backup and flashed the Linda voices and the Ki3 modem bc I saw where the KJ6 didn't allow long text messages. When I flashed the modem some blue words popped up really zoomed in on another screen then it was done. The phone was laggy so i tried to delete everything and restore like I had done numerous times on old phone.
I did a factory reset then cache then tried to format system. These are all steps i used to successfully take on other phone. It won't let me format the system though. Says: "format_volume failed to mount "/system" error formatting system!"
Where did I go wrong? Am I supposed to do some more wacky things on this phone for a restore? Everything else on it seems to take 20 more steps
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CWM versions prior to those in bhndven's Slightly Modified Stock kernels have a problem with mounting/unmouting the /system partition in GB. I believe you can backup and restore user data, but nothing on the /system partition.
Flashing the KI3 modem shouldn't have had an effect like you're describing, though. I can't say I've had an issue like that at all or heard of people having that issue after flashing the modem.
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CWM versions prior to those in bhndven's Slightly Modified Stock kernels have a problem with mounting/unmouting the /system partition in GB. I believe you can backup and restore user data, but nothing on the /system partition.
Flashing the KI3 modem shouldn't have had an effect like you're describing, though. I can't say I've had an issue like that at all or heard of people having that issue after flashing the modem.
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So everything should run fine after trying the actual restore of my backup even though i couldn't format the system? I have a backup but don't want to restore over data that wasn't deleted or whatever. If that's possible.
How the hell do i know which modem to use anyways? There's like 10 to choose from
Uh yeah I forget it tries to format system anyways when restoring... and it couldn't. So what do i do? Re-flash the GB starter pack way through Odin?
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Uh yeah I forget it tries to format system anyways when restoring... and it couldn't. So what do i do? Re-flash the GB starter pack way through Odin?
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As for the modem, I'm using KI3 on mine. You already did a factory reset so you should be able to just re-flash Valhalla.
Trying now. Does Vahalla automatically change all the mounts that the other roms require changing before flashing?
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Trying now. Does Vahalla automatically change all the mounts that the other roms require changing before flashing?
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I'm not sure about that one. Definitely go check the original Valhalla post to make sure you don't have to set the mounts.
Guess you don't have too. I'm using it now. thanks for the help
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Guess you don't have too. I'm using it now. thanks for the help
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No worries. Good luck
Hey I still have an issue. I reflashed Vahalla through CWM and it was fine at first all the way through setting everything up like it was before. Ran smooth. I went to the market this morning and checked for updates and Google Search, Maps and Superuser updated. Phone started acting really laggy again. Scrolls really slow, pulls up GO Launcher menu slowly, etc.
It seems to me that the re flash installed over the existing data that was left on the phone since i couldn't format my system.
My new question is, what's the best way to re do everything including formatting the system if I can't format through CWM? If I flash through Odin does that format everything? Or am I better of just going through the whole GB Starter Pack process again?? Or will that even work now since i've already done it?
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Hey I still have an issue. I reflashed Vahalla through CWM and it was fine at first all the way through setting everything up like it was before. Ran smooth. I went to the market this morning and checked for updates and Google Search, Maps and Superuser updated. Phone started acting really laggy again. Scrolls really slow, pulls up GO Launcher menu slowly, etc.
It seems to me that the re flash installed over the existing data that was left on the phone since i couldn't format my system.
My new question is, what's the best way to re do everything including formatting the system if I can't format through CWM? If I flash through Odin does that format everything? Or am I better of just going through the whole GB Starter Pack process again?? Or will that even work now since i've already done it?
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Did you restore your previous apps are do fresh installs?
Restored w titanium..... ugh.. Flashing a new zip doesn't wipe anything right? Just installs over whats already there right?
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Restored w titanium..... ugh.. Flashing a new zip doesn't wipe anything right? Just installs over whats already there right?
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If you flashed and "it was fine at first all the way through setting everything up"...
try reflashing as you did before. Do fresh installs on as much as you can ONE AT A TIME. And then restore ONE AT A TIME what you can't do fresh installs on. It sounds like one of your backups is not agreeing with the system. Install/Restore ONE AT A TIME and play with phone between each to see if you can determine which backup your system is not agreeing with.
Did that make sense??
EDIT: And make sure to wipe dalvik cache and cache partition before you reflash as is always recommended.
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If you flashed and "it was fine at first all the way through setting everything up"...
try reflashing as you did before. Do fresh installs on as much as you can ONE AT A TIME. And then restore ONE AT A TIME what you can't do fresh installs on. It sounds like one of your backups is not agreeing with the system. Install/Restore ONE AT A TIME and play with phone between each to see if you can determine which on your system is not agreeing with.
Did that make sense??
EDIT: And make sure to wipe dalvik cache and cache partition before you reflash as is always recommended.
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Yeah it makes sense thanks. I will do this despite how impatient I am (see where that got me). I'm just got spoiled on another phone that was way way easier to work with. Weren't as many options to screw up either.
Any suggestions on how I can get my system to format for future reference?
I feel like it's Go Launcher for some reason. In cased you missed it though, I didn't start having lag issues until I flashed the Ki3 modem and linda voices one after another. I have a good backup but I can't format system to restore it.
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Yeah it makes sense thanks. I will do this despite how impatient I am (see where that got me). I'm just got spoiled on another phone that was way way easier to work with. Weren't as many options to screw up either.
Any suggestions on how I can get my system to format for future reference?
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I have never formatted my system nor read anybody wanting/needing to format their system. A factory reset is what people use to clean the gremlins along with wiping dalvik cache and cache partition. Bhundven has recommended flashing the same rom twice in a row I believe to help make sure all installs correctly (I think he was talking about bootloaders when he recommended that).
But a factory reset is what I think you are trying to accomplish with formatting your system.
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I feel like it's Go Launcher for some reason. In cased you missed it though, I didn't start having lag issues until I flashed the Ki3 modem and linda voices one after another. I have a good backup but I can't format system to restore it.
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I use GoLauncher on Vahalla Black with no problems. I think it has to do with your backup... not the app itself.
I wiped caches, did factory reset, tired to format system again with no luck and accidentally restarted before re-flashing Vahalla. Which, I guess I didn't really need to do anyways if it's an App causing the issue. I guess the factory reset would be enough. Smooth again so i will try some fresh reinstalls now. Thanks for the noob patience
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I have never formatted my system nor read anybody wanting/needing to format their system. A factory reset is what people use to clean the gremlins along with wiping dalvik cache and cache partition. Bhundven has recommended flashing the same rom twice in a row I believe to help make sure all installs correctly (I think he was talking about bootloaders when he recommended that).
But a factory reset is what I think you are trying to accomplish with formatting your system.
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I use GoLauncher on Vahalla Black with no problems. I think it has to do with your backup... not the app itself.
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Ok cool. In another phones forum a system wipe is actually suggested a lot. I think... I did it every time on the G2x before installing any new roms or backups. I wasn't doing it at first but started after someone suggested it. But yeah I think the factoy reset is enough. Seems to be enough so far.
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I wiped caches, did factory reset, tired to format system again with no luck and accidentally restarted before re-flashing Vahalla. Which, I guess I didn't really need to do anyways if it's an App causing the issue. I guess the factory reset would be enough. Smooth again so i will try some fresh reinstalls now. Thanks for the noob patience
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I am a noob too. No worries. Vahalla Black is solid. Backups are tricky. Fresh installs are the way to go.