[Q] email client lies - Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi
My Htc Pro 7 (one week old) seems to pretend that it is syncing. It only takes 2 to 3 seconds over Wifi but it doesn't bother downloading new messages.
My (only) email account on the phone is a Blueyonder account (powered by Google). The initial set up went off and collected the account info.
I have turned off SSL and deleted the port numbers from the SMTP and POP settings.
Reentering the username and password convinced it to download the rest of yesterdays emails but not the test one I just sent myself or the others that are on the server.
Outllok 2007 is set to leave copies on the server for 10 days and over the years WM and Symbian handsets have not experienced this problem.
Any suggestions?
Tnx

Since re-entering the username password- the phone is set to look every 15 minutes and ever hour or so it seems to go off- ask if there are any new messages and then download the odd one without bothering to do download the rest...

Am I really the only person who has a mailbox that is at least a day behind???
I guess I am going to have to reset the phone, and lose all my texts etc.
Nice one MuppetSoft!!! By removing our rights to tweak things you have also prevented us from fixing things ourself. Please stop trying to be Apple.

Sometimes the same thing would happen when I hard reset my phone and set up my Hotmail account for the first time. E-mails don't download even though I can clearly see them on my PC. After a couple hours though, it fixes itself and my e-mails appear regularly, and at times, I get alerts to my phone even faster than I would on my computer.
Maybe give it a jump start by using your phone to compose, send, deleted, etc. Otherwise if it still isn't working, then it may be bugged and a hard reset may be in your future.

Thanks for the reply prjkthack
I can send emails without any problems. I have only had the phone just over a week and I am pretty sure that on day one it was working properly. I only noticed the issue a couple of days after the Nodo update- not sure if there is a relation or not.
I guess I will have to wait until i have a day off work before i can prepare for a hard reset. Being undiciplined i tend to leave client contact details in the form of text messages, rather than saving them to contacts.

odder and odder....
it has finally managed to catch up and is now up to date.
I have not made any changes/restores.
Lets hope it stays that way.
Now all I need is my Dev account to be approved so that I can play with mango.

Just bumping my own thread.
The problem returned.
UNTIL I remembered that my Virgin (blueyonder) email account (powered by Google) needs to be in the following format recent:[email protected]
I am such a wanker and should have remembered sooner!!!!
I guess it is a timeout issue, ordinarily the email client asks the server if there are any messages- the server responds "sure about 10000", the email client says "sod that, I'm not cross referencing your list with the ones i am already aware of -I'm off".
With the addition of recent: it only asks for the emails received in the last week or two.
Hopefully the above will be of help to someone else in the near future

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Emails disappearing from exchange inbox and calendar not syncing help please

Hi all, I'm fairly experienced with the WM world (been using since WM2002) and am usually able to fix plenty of people's problems (on here and in the real world). I have run into an issue that I haven't quite been able to figure out. If it were my phone, I'd probably reflash a different rom on it (or even same one) and try it again fresh, but since it is not my phone I haven't tried it yet. Anyways, here is the issue.
My coworker has configured his phone running his provider's stock WM6.1 standard rom. He (well me, he had no idea it was possible until I showed him) is trying to connect his phone to the company's exchange server to get email on the phone. I have configured this (or instructed how to do this) for over 25 people where I work, and the only issues that I have ever run into were certificate issues. I manually pulled down the root certificate, made a cab file containing it, and installed it on his phone. This is easily verified by accessing the company's OWA site from Pocket IE. Without the certificate installed, a certificate warning appears, and with it you access without a problem (which I can do). So certificate, checked.
Now after a soft reset, it comes time to configure it. I get the email address, password, and domain in without a problem. Then the OWA address is put into the server address. Then the specific mail and calendar items are configured (such as retain last 3 days of mail, download 50KB of each message, show last 2 weeks of calendar, etc.), and finish is hit. The device successfully syncs, with no errors appearing on the screen. I even see items come down in activesync (such as syncing 82 contacts, 5 calendar events, and some emails).
I opened pocket outlook, and his inbox is empty. Odd, so I send him a test email from my AT&T Tilt (cooked WM 6.1 rom), and it arrives to his device on the next send/receive. Then, I hit send receive again on his phone and the test email disappears. I have tried changing the "retain" option for email from last 3 days to last 2 weeks, and no difference. Also the Calendar is empty. I sent him a meeting request and he accepted it, but it isn't on his mobile phone's calendar (but it is on the exchange calendar).
The only thing that I could think of is a rule to move everything to his personal folder on his laptop, but he says that he doesn't have one and moves everything over by hand. I'm thinking about swinging by his desk and confirming, but he isn't dumb and I'm sure he isn't lying about it.
I have been searching google (here and full internet google) without much luck. Thanks for any ideas to try, or else I'm gonna go soft reset his phone
Jason
Well he did tell me when he closed outlook on his work PC, everything started working right. I might try to swing by and look at his outlook afterall.
Jason
btw, if your poutlook syncs only new mails, and your server is configured to not keep messages on the server, the message might be deleted every other send/receive.

Since mail2web went pay-only...

...I've been using IMAP to get my gmail. But I have a serious problem!
Unlike activesync push email, I can't find a setting to restrict the times the phone checks for email. This is a problem, because it wakes me up at random times with spam or newsletter emails!
Other than muting the phone before bed, which might cause me to miss an emergency phone call, what can I do?
Try Seven Beta, they do push for Gmail and all the others as well.
Or try Windows Live (forward gmail to Live).
Seven doesn't require you to forward it anywhere, and it will work for your Live account as well.
the only thing is Seven doesn't work . Really, i have been trying all day, and sometimes it can't "communicate with base", emails never come or come 10 minutes later... It has been a blast for me. They did sent me an email that they had a problem, i guess their problem still continues.
onlyone0001 said:
the only thing is Seven doesn't work . Really, i have been trying all day, and sometimes it can't "communicate with base", emails never come or come 10 minutes later... It has been a blast for me. They did sent me an email that they had a problem, i guess their problem still continues.
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They have been having server issues recently, it is all detailed on the forum. It is only to be expected from a Beta product that there will be issues form time to time. Before anyone asks i have no connection to them apart from being a fairly satisfied end user.
I think the best thing to do is create a Live account (microfot) and redirect by copying automaticaly all your mail from all your accounts to this new one.
Like live use http connection, you can have a free push mail service.
And i tried seven beta but it uses lot of ressources and when I'm in the Metro "The french tube", i've not always the network. Then if he can't connect just one time, i have to re-write my password.
How's the battery when using live.com push service? Currently I'm using mail2web, I'm not sure why my account still works altough I'm not paying for it. The battery life so far is very good. But when using seven, it seems the battery drains faster than using exchange for push mail.

[Q] Captivate Stops Checking E-Mail. Anyone else?

Did a search and could not find a similar thread addressing this issue. If I am incorrect, I'd appreciate being pointed in the right direction.
I am currently running Assonance 5.2 and have set up Yahoo and Exchange accounts, with the phone set to check for email either every 5 minutes (for my Exchange account) or once every hour (for my Yahoo account).
I have noticed that, on a daily basis, my phone will stop checking for emails altogether even though background sync is turned on. Additionally, even when I delete emails from my phone, they remain on the server. Lastly, even though I have read an email, it still shows up as unread on the server. The phone has stopped checking at random times - on Monday, it stopped checking after 3:00 p.m.; on Tuesday and Wednesday, it stopped sometime after 6:00 p.m.; and on Thursday, it stopped checking around noon.
I have tried Improved Email and K-9, but the problem remains. As an FYI, I had the same problem even when I was running an unrooted phone that was running the stock Eclair.
Have other people encountered this issue? If so, is there a way to get the email working correctly? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Same here. I use mine for corporate and I have to say my Iphone was 10 times better when it came to email etc. Sometimes I can force a refresh....others I have to reboot. But I have missed some critical emails because they just werent syncing. I have learned to deal with it although it stinks. My email blows up during business hours, so If I havent gotten an email in ~45min, I know to check it.
I had this problem in the stock email client. Clearing the cache under the applications settings menu fixed it for me. After I had to fix it this way for about the 3rd time, I switched to K9 mail and havent had a problem since. I have hotmail, POP and Gmail accounts.
Im stock, by the way.
sent from my Captivate
Thanks for both of your replies. I'm glad (sort of) to hear that I'm not the only one with this problem.
@mike parsons - I am in the same boat as you where I have missed critical work emails due to the phone not fetching my email. I also grudgingly agree that the iPhone mail client worked much better. The only thing I could do to get the email on the Captivate working again was to restart the phone. Even then, I sometimes had to restart 2-3 times before the emails were sent to the phone.
I had this issue with stock Eclair 2.1 on my Rogers sourced Captivate SGH-I896 running Eclair 2.1-update 1.
It happened rarely with POP accounts, never with G-Mail, but with Exchange ActiveSync it was disastrous. I set up and configured this, and with my old Windows Phone 6.0 it did this maybe five times in 18 months.
During the off-time between Christmas and New Years it only received e-mail properly on ActiveSync two days out of eight. I didn't get much e-mail during that time either.
Sometimes it helps if I manually changed it from automatic (push) to every 15 minutes and hit "refresh" but most often it did not. The only fix was to remove the ActiveSync account and re-establish it, and it would work fine for a week or so until it started doing this again.
Another thing that seemingly affected it, was how much e-mail I would sync. It would happen quicker if I sync'd the last month of e-mail versus let's say one or two weeks.
I had run Cognition 2.3B7 without a hitch for about a week and a half and it never happened.
I just upgraded to the stock Froyo 2.2 and I'm hoping this isn't an issue with the upgraded client.
Use k9 mail. This is lots better than stock.
@diablo009 - thank you for the suggestion. However, I had the exact same problem using K9, so I am not sure what else I can try.
JOLiu said:
@diablo009 - thank you for the suggestion. However, I had the exact same problem using K9, so I am not sure what else I can try.
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Did u try configuring k9 to fetch mails at intervals? It would be "folder poll frequency" under account settings. Want to see if u did this too.
Also, some apps need "background data" to be enabled in settings. Is that set? Same question about "auto-sync" being turned on.
diablo009 said:
Did u try configuring k9 to fetch mails at intervals? It would be "folder poll frequency" under account settings. Want to see if u did this too.
Also, some apps need "background data" to be enabled in settings. Is that set? Same question about "auto-sync" being turned on.
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Thanks for the suggestions - yes, I had tried different folder poll frequencies on K9 - 1 minute, 5, minutes, 15, minutes, and so on. However, there are still times when I won't receive an email for hours even though K9 is set to poll much more frequently. I will only learn of this when I check my mail through my home or work computer. In fact, on occasions like this (when I learn that phone hasn't downloaded the new messages), I will go into K9 (or the email app) and hit either refresh or check mail. Even in these situations, the new mail won't show up on the phone until I restart the phone completely. Again, I had this problem both on stock Eclair as well as on Assonance 5.2.
Also, I had enabled "sync server deletions" on K9, but messages still don't consistently get deleted from the server.
Lastly, background sync and auto sync are both enabled in settings.

Gmail and tmail.exe slowing winmo

On 5/19/11 I noticed my phone was getting hot and was not responding when I hit the red key to wake it up. I thought I had an application that was causing the problem so after dealing with it for a couple of days I did a hard reset and started rebuilding my phone app by app.
Well, it didn't take long before it started happening again. At this point I had only configured my email accounts, 1 gmail and 2 other. I thought my phone was about to die (it just came off warranty last month). Then I noticed that tmail.exe was running and consuming ~95% cpu. I figured it was something to do with sending and receiving mail so I went to my email accounts and found that my gmail account was stuck at logging on.
I deleted the gmail account and the problem has gone away. This is not an acceptable solution because I get most of my mail through gmail.
My question is this: WTF is google trying to do now that our email accounts lock up our winmo phones and is this happening to any other os's?
John
This started happening to me as well on my Touch Pro 2.
tmail.exe gets stuck at 100% and when I open gmail it appears to be hung at "disconnecting"
The account works fine if I click send/receive manually. This just started happening a few days ago.
Subbing to this thread.
Another person with the same problem:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/gmail/thread?tid=331d0e5691783390&hl=en
I suspect most people are not savvy enough to realize the problem is tmail-gmail.
Count me in on this problem too. HTC HD2, WM6.5. First noticed something was up on Friday morning (5/20) when I woke up and my phone was dead. Recharged during the day but the battery was still draining and phone was running hot! Sure enough, tmail.exe running 95% cpu. I've just deleted my gmail account, but this isn't really a solution of course. Prior to that, I tried switching over from imap to pop, both via gmail settings and on the phone, but that didn't stop tmail from jamming up again upon manual send/receive. I'm sorry that I have nothing to add except more confirmation of the problem.
this problem was reported first in duttys rom thread.there is quite some discussion on that matter over there.it could be interesting to work on a solution here instead of in the rom thread.
user ny_limited has done some detective work already.maybe he can come over here.
Same problem on Xperia X1 runnning WM6.5 (826x rom).
T-Mobile forums thread on this issue.
Google Mobile forums thread on this issue.
XDA HD2 thread on this issue.
Just so we're clear, this is a problem with Google. They changed a bit of data within their IMAP processing at or around 1900 on 19 May 2011 EST. This is when the problems began rolling out. Google is the one that needs to fix the problem. It is in no way related to anyone's ROM.
To fix the problem temporarily, you can switch Gmail to use POP3 access instead of IMAP or set it up as an exchange server. The exchange server would consume far less battery than either IMAP or POP. Do a search for the settings. It's pretty simple.
EDIT: Google is aware of the problem and is working to fix it. Check the following thread for updates into the matter.
IMAP access from POutlook is randomly hanging - Windows Mobile 6.5.x
Temp Fix
I saw this in the Google thread and tested it. It works!!
In your mail configuration, go into manual setup and change the server address to POP.GMAIL.COM. Yes, IMAP works on pop address and it connects/disconnects correctly. ;)
EDIT: Google must have made a change because both addresses resolve to the same server. What was once a hard failure every time now seems to work for a while but some are reporting that it still eventually hangs tmail. Let's hope they're rolling out a fix...
Starting over from scratch solves the problem.
Either delete cemail.vol or do a hard reset. Seems that freshly configured Gmail accounts don't cause freezes.
Did this, now my Lion works like a charm again.
Update: deleting, soft resetting and reconfiguring all Gmail accounts also does the job.
justmeandmyphone said:
Starting over from scratch solves the problem.
Either delete cemail.vol or do a hard reset. Seems that freshly configured Gmail accounts don't cause freezes.
Did this, now my Lion works like a charm again.
Update: deleting, soft resetting and reconfiguring all Gmail accounts also does the job.
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I have tried this multiple times since Friday and the Gmail account still locks up after one or two attempts to send/receive.
Yeah, in the meantime i can confirm this. After a few hours tmail began freezing again.
I have this issue too; it's been going on for a while actually, but I have slightly different symptoms; initially it would be stuck at logging on, and I could press send receive to kick start it. At a later point in time, pressing send receive causes it to hang at disconnect. This persists across multiple hard resets, and occurs randomly.
Just this morning I cannot get it to work no matter what I do...
I confirmed tmail.exe eating 100% of the cpu, and there have been more than a few cases of my freshly charged battery near dead only a few hours later, with gmail "logging on".
And to whoever said imap uses more battery than activesync; get the imap pusher service. Uses less battery and you don't have to put up with activesync's crap
Same stuff today, Duttys v25 HD2 RUS. Missed my morning wakeup call, cause of it.
So, as a temporary fix, I created an account at Yahoo! and forwarded all mail from Gmail to it.
Update:
http://www.google.com/support/forum...869ff02960004a41d457a8bf4&hl=en did the trick!
Google fixed the issue.

Strange Email sync issue with multiple accouts using Samsung Omnia Win7 phone - HELP

Hi,
this is a strange question and a bizzare event thats occuring but i am hoping someone will be able to clear this up for me.
Basically i have had troubles with battery life on my windows 7 phone, its a samsung omnia on the orange network in the uk. This has ONLY been an issue since i upgraded to the Mango update last wednesday.
What i am finding is that my emails are syncing every 30mins or so despite being set to manual update only. I added 3 email accounts to my phone each via the windows live account addition option, i set them to each manually update only and only sync email not contacts/meetings etc... the mad thing is the main acount that is used under my people contact and the main hotmail/live account that is in use with the phone itself seems to stick at only updating when i tell it to sync (i have to click the refresh style sync button within the email screen) however the other two accounts after about 12hours start to go haywire and whilst they start out by syncing manual as soon as i have synced them manually once, after this they just update whenever they want too (every 30mins it appears)... i have tried a reset of the phone and starting from scratch but again eventually this flaw just keeps occuring! over and over, no matter how many resets i do
Its a real pain to be honest, when i first updated to mango i did link all the accounts together as there is an option to band all your accounts into the single hotmail livetile on the homescreen, i changed this option and decided against it, trouble is i cant remember if this issue happened then, im still pretty sure it did, its almost like the other two accounts have a mind of their own, is there any explanation as to what this could possible be?
I have tried to a rollback of my current firmware but it ended up bricking my phone so now it has gone in for a repair under warrenty to samsung, maybe it could have been a dodgy install of mango from day one? as my friend updated and he has the same phone yet hasnt experienced this email flaw, but then again he only has two accounts on his phone
Could it be the manual option no longer works in mango update?
many thanks for reading and hope someone can help, many thanks

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