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Cooked ROM (Hey JimmyMcGee)

I have a new TILT from ATT, US. I was hoping someone could provide advise on a lighter ROM (one without the ATT crap everywhere) that I could use. Also, if I do so, can I revert back to the stock AT if I need to?

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Search.
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Hey Jimmy McGee...
Why did you close my thread on ROM suggestions? I am so new to this and was referred over to this forum by the owner of another large site that handles other phones. You said: Three words...WIKI, Search, Read or something to that extent...Why? Al I was looking for advice on what I should choose, not instructions on how to install or anything really technical. Instead, why not try helping rather than closing threads...

maybe because there are just so many threads that ask/suggest the exact same thing?

i guess you must find out for yourself.
every rom is different, nobody can tell you if its great or less great. its the same for buying a new car. everybody tells you different things.
think about it, and try some roms. take your time

if you read his response you will answer your own question.

I waited 6+ months before even posting on this site coming from Howard forums strictly because of the name of this site. You could at least respect when a thread is closed to put some thought into it. You should also try to education yourself a little before creating more spam threads. The mods have to sift through enough of it as it is. Where you came from and who sent you is irrelevant.

Thanks da_mafkeez...
that's all I wanted was a suggestion. Isn't that the point of forums? As for the other weenies, I will so try to be a better boy...

Because everyday someone gets their new phone and asks the same questions, its a pain for the mods and members to have to tell people the same things over and over. Check out the wiki and stuff at the top of the page it will give you just about every answer you need. When youve read through it all and still cant find your answer then try starting a thread. It wont drive people as crazy around here.

terrapin69 said:
Why did you close my thread on ROM suggestions? I am so new to this and was referred over to this forum by the owner of another large site that handles other phones. You said: Three words...WIKI, Search, Read or something to that extent...Why? Al I was looking for advice on what I should choose, not instructions on how to install or anything really technical. Instead, why not try helping rather than closing threads...
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There is a neat little function in the site called "private message" for something like this. Please do not disrespect the mods and and forum by creating a new thread after yours has been closed.

Ya know what...
if there were as many members responding to my requests for help as there are these, it'd be great...

terrapin69 said:
if there were as many members responding to my requests for help as there are these, it'd be great...
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then we will be just encouraging this kind of behavior

Here's a little friendly advice...
The reason that so many people are reading and replying to this thread is because you are having a go a one of the forum Mods. The Mods on this site are respected by all other members; they uphold the Rules of this site (found here) and ensure the forums are clean and easy to read by everyone:
From the Rule Book said:
1. Check if something hasn't been asked before
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If you have problems with a Moderator or the Rules, bring it up with the Mod in question, or another moderator or even one of the Site Admins.
Don't feel insulted by the fact that your thread was closed, and don't make it personal (Rule 8 ). It's not the end of the world.
Dave

terrapin69 said:
if there were as many members responding to my requests for help as there are these, it'd be great...
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As i've stated many many time in the forum to noobs who complain that we don't answer their questions...If you asked your questions in the correct manner, and put it in the right place, then you will find the people on this site to be very helpful to you. If you insist that you are above the rules, and choose to disrespect the forum, the mods, and other members then you will not find it to be a welcoming place at all. There are not many rules here, but those who have the knowledge that you seek expect those few rules to be abided by, and as another use said, if we answer your questions when you intentionally didn't put it in the rigth place it only reinforces the belief that the rules don't matter.

chill up dude - we are all one big crazy family here
closing a thread is a tough decision to be made but some times a mod need to take it for the good of everybody
maybe next time if you want to ask specific question or a individual advice (try using Personal Messages), in couple of occasions i sent personal messages to mods asking advice/opinion and they replied me promptly but if i had posted my queries as thread i am sure they will close 'em up...
back to your question - there is no best answer to what is best rom because i will say 50% is personal prefrence and 50% technical details so nobody will know what is best for you expect one person - YOU - cuz u can judge them for ur use and ur prefrence
best wishes bro
terrapin69 said:
Why did you close my thread on ROM suggestions? I am so new to this and was referred over to this forum by the owner of another large site that handles other phones. You said: Three words...WIKI, Search, Read or something to that extent...Why? Al I was looking for advice on what I should choose, not instructions on how to install or anything really technical. Instead, why not try helping rather than closing threads...
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I think I feel the hammer coming on!

Does that mean it's "hammer time".
Oh crap, did I just say that. I need sleep
Dave

Dude, AllTheWay has shot me down twice & moved one of my posts. Am I crying about it, NO. He did that because I didn't follow protocol. It was a learning experience for me & probably some other people who saw it happen. I'm not pissed off at him for it. I apologized & thanked him for teaching me something. Your thread was probably shot down because someone else has already asked the same thing at some point. These guys have been here longer than us & know a hell of alot more than we do. If you're still reading this at this point, I should feel pretty inportant for keeping your attention this long. I wouldn't @#$% with the Mods, Admins or Seniors on this site. They know what they are doing, that's why they are where they are!

Well, terrapin69, If I offended you. I'm sorry.
I hope you stick around this is a great place.
Now to answer your question, Why did I close the thread?
I think others have covered it. I respect your opinion. But please respect mine.
It wasn't meant to be curt, but more to be efficient.
Look at the Sticky Roll Up Thread. Read The Wiki, and Of Course Always use search.
Just note, Asking "what Rom is the best" is so subjective that there is no answer.
I have the reasons why. If you want to know most of them, just check out the Rules here.
I appreciate your eagerness. The Kaiser is a great device.

AllTheWay said:
I think I feel the hammer coming on!
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That was actually my first thought when I clicked on this, that somewhere I was going to see AllTheWay's Hammer graphic somewhere in here before long.
To answer terrapin's original question: ROM selection is entirely a matter of personal choice, and there are so many options that the only way to really tell which is best for you is to browse through the ROM threads, read the features of the ROM, look at the screenshots, and if you like what you see, flash it. If you don't like that ROM after flashing, find another one.

Why can't I access (view) marketplace?

I was wondering why I couldn't view the marketplace? I have it bookmarked so I could see it before. Thanks.

Do you have a connection to the internet?

Hey there,
New rules were implemented a little while ago as an antispam measure meaning there are now minimum requirements before "new" members can post there.
I believe there is currently a review of current market place rules not that i expect this restriction to be lifted any time soon.
Look around the forum a little more, contribute and you will then pass the minimum post and member time rules.
Cheers,

GLa'DOS said:
Do you have a connection to the internet?
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Yes I posted here right
It says I don't have user access or something, but why not? I mean whats so wrong with viewing the marketplace so I can maybe buy someone's phone or compare the priced to craigs list?
I am sorry but I just think it's rather annoying to make forums where you got to ask just to be able to see certain "sub forums" or "directories" whatever.
I was just hoping it was a mistake but nobody seems to care.

Hey there,
Dont seem to care??? Give me a break.
The rules were made for yours and our protection. Make a few more posts and spend a little more time on the forum (you are new after all) and you will be able to sell on MP!
Is it really life and death that you MUST view MP now?
If so, i have one word for you.....................EBAY!
Matter closed.

Thanks...
I did have a nice long reply posted but it seems a waste of time.
I just want to say I don't like that system. I think I should be able to view the marketplace forum. Restricted posting would suck but be ok. But hey it's not my forum so I don't get to choose these things.
But I found it dumb since every other android/PPC/Phone forum I go to allows me to atleast read the buy/sell forum. I thought it was a mistake that I couldn't here since I am registered. But I guess not.
Enjoy your class system.

timmymarsh said:
Hey there,
New rules were implemented a little while ago as an antispam measure meaning there are now minimum requirements before "new" members can post there.
I believe there is currently a review of current market place rules not that i expect this restriction to be lifted any time soon.
Look around the forum a little more, contribute and you will then pass the minimum post and member time rules.
Cheers,
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Sorry I missed your post. Thanks I was wondering why I couldn't view something I could before.
I would contibute but thats not my style I am more or a lurker as I am not a expert on this phone stuff though I have used PPCs for years. I was just wanting to read a forum I had read before.
Thanks again.

MasterColdSoul said:
Sorry I missed your post. Thanks I was wondering why I couldn't view something I could before.
I would contibute but thats not my style I am more or a lurker as I am not a expert on this phone stuff though I have used PPCs for years. I was just wanting to read a forum I had read before.
Thanks again.
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Hi again,
I assume you read the marketplace rules right before making this thread? : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3460150&postcount=1

timmymarsh said:
Hi again,
I assume you read the marketplace rules right before making this thread? : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3460150&postcount=1
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I am sorry I didn't know those existed. But guess what I can't even read the marketplace rules . Here is what I get a page with this...
MasterColdSoul, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:
Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.
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Also my main thing was why have I lost the privilege to see the marketplace (I could see it before, now I can't). So I thought maybe it was a error.
I guess I shouldn't get upset about it. Sorry

Posts
For what it is worth, you are about a 1/4th of the way their on posts. You could always attempt to answer questions in this forum until you reach 30 posts.

Yeah I imagine I will be posting more as I try to root the phone I am buying today. It's a MyTouch 1.2 so I will be buying a 2 gig microsd in a attempt on making a gold card to root it. I know I am going to be rereading the faq's on that about 10 times before attempting since if I mess it up I will have to buy another phone .
If there is any questions I can awnser I try to. I was trying to point a another new person to the Rom Bible in the MyTouch 3G Rom section when they asked where to download roms. I also had a link to the cyro rom forum which was linked in the rom bible as a possible good rom for him to use (since I hear about it being used by people on craigslist and charging for it). But when I did I couldn't make the post because it had links it said to "outside the forum". So I removed the cyro link and tried again. It still wouldn't even let me refer to the rom bible thread in a reply with a link to it. So at that point I figuared someone could awnser who had the ability to give him a link and not just say "look at the sticky thread "rom bible"".
I will just not let it get to me and try to contribute what I can until I am able to be more helpful and also enjoy more of this forum.

Post limit is currently 5, so you should now be able to use the Mp.
PLEASE READ THE RULES OF THE MP before posting, or your thread could be closed if you do not follow the guidlines.
Good luck.

[DEV TOOLS] Apk's

Here are a whole buch of Apk's for those of you who can use them.
Enjoy!
http://www.mediafire.com/?p31r54t96648l

so wait you opened up a ROM zip and uploaded them to mediafire?
thanks i think.......

deke2010 said:
Here are a whole buch of Apk's for those of you who can use them.
Enjoy!
http://www.mediafire.com/?p31r54t96648l
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You obtained approval from the creators to upload these without permission I assume? Or are they all under a 'open' license?
edit: and yea, it's just an unzipped ROM's dumped /system/app directory uploaded to mediafire.
edit2: looks like CM6 perhaps? I also see Facebook... Amazon MP3, etc

sorry guys. i had this in the dev section for a guy who needed them and they moved it

deke2010 said:
sorry guys. i had this in the dev section for a guy who needed them and they moved it
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You posted this orginally in DEVELOPMENT !?!?! You may want to stop doing this posting others work with no credit crap. This is the third thread you posted of others work with no credit and lame excuses. Read the forum rules, you are clearly violating them. People really do get banned for this stuff. If you are tryin to send something to "a guy" you shouldn't say "for those of you who can use them" that implies a broader intent, and if it really was a favor to "a guy" then figure out how to use the PM feature. Please stop clogging the boards with stuff you didn't make, stuff that any member can get EASILY, stuff that an actual dev worked hard on. If you ever actually develop something feel free to post it, but leave other peoples stuff in their own threads. And please learn how to post in the CORRECT section.

Reminder to anyone who is not a Dev...

First let me qualify (or disqualify) myself.
I do not own a Viewsonic G Tablet.
I own other Android devices.
I have a strong background in development and programming. I am the Director of Engineering for a small company in Tennessee where we develop adult amusement devices (no, not porn) such as slots, video poker, etc.
I am proficient in many languages, as well as 'nix operating systems.
I have cooked my own roms in the past.
Second...
I have been lurking around the XDA developer forum since back in the Windows Mobile 6 days. I currently have an Android phone and an Android tablet (not a Viewsonic).
Like everyone else here, the prospect of the new build is tasty. Wanting to delve into it myself to see what I can do, It is helpful to me to look (like many others) in the development forums to see what I can see.
However...
Let this serve as a warning to anyone who is not a "Dev" on this forum.
This forum, like many other here at XDA belongs to a handful of "Devs" and you are not one of these "Devs".
Your best bet is to lurk like the rest of us. I don't care if you have a Honeycomb port that will work on this device or a pill that cures cancer. They don't want to see it and you don't want the hassle of being flamed for trying to contribute. They will get to it and you will not beat them to it.
Devs work hard. They do the work for free and they should be revered and respected. But make no mistake, they know it and are not afraid to tell you to STFU and GTFO for merely making a suggestion or comment.
So do all of us a favor, stick to the General forums and don't poke the bear.
I do not plan to respond to this thread and it should probably be closed immediately.

neo4uo said:
Not trying to poke your bear, but even this thread should not be posted in here. This needs to be moved to the general section. This thread defines the word ironic.
Peace \oo/
Sent from my VEGAn-TAB-v1.0.0B5.1 using Tapatalk
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.........lmfao i was about to say the same thing, this thread totally defeat its purpose, the fact is no matter how much you tell people to "search" "post in the proper section" "dont ask for ETAs" and so on theres going to be someone that dont follows the rules, and WTF???? "This forum, like many other here at XDA belongs to a handful of Devs"??? this forum belogs to the community just as much as it does the devs......obviously someone did not read the "state of the site anoucement......tsk......tskk

I am poking the Bear, and here it goes.
If you want us peasants to stop posting in the Development forum of ANY device, simply create a tag for Developers, make it so only "x" amount of posts and a review by the mods, will grant someone this tag. Then you limit access to the Dev forum to tag holders only. Then, when one of the Devs (whos' work is tremendous and I highly resect) has something ready to go, they can post a link or a file in the General section.
That way us 'morons' who are not welcome here can't possibly get in their way with our useless posts and questions. I am tired of the elitist attitude that some have here. Yes a lot of you know more than I do about this stuff, yes I am learning to do this stuff in my SPARE TIME. I am not in college, I do not have a job that allows me to sit in front of a computer all day(don't want it either). When I do have the time to get invloved, or if I find something useful, like many of us, I want to post it. I don't want to be a leach. I can only speak for myself with this. I may not be able to give as much as the devs do, but how can I possibly learn if I dno't ask questions?
The Search feature that people here are so in love with and can't wait to tell us "search is your friend"?
Its almost useless. Its rare that I can find what I'm looking for in the limited amount of time I have to be on here. Its generally easier for me, and many others I suspect, to ask the question and wait for an answer.

Then ask the question. The big complaint is that most don't even try to look or they post "LOOK>>>>>HONEYCOMB ON THE NOOK.....WHY DONT WE HAVE IT YET" in the dev section. Granted the search function isnt great but filling up the forum with the same questions over and over is what makes the search function useless to some. Although I seem to be able to find what I'm looking for most of the time with a little work. The moderators have asked that people not post general questions as new threads in the dev section yet it keeps being done.
its not an elitist attitude about the dev section. Its a request to keep the posts to development only or at least inside the correct thread and not keep asking the same question over and over with a new thread.

I agree with limited access...
Frrrrrrunkis said:
I am poking the Bear, and here it goes.
If you want us peasants to stop posting in the Development forum of ANY device, simply create a tag for Developers, make it so only "x" amount of posts and a review by the mods, will grant someone this tag. Then you limit access to the Dev forum to tag holders only. Then, when one of the Devs (whos' work is tremendous and I highly resect) has something ready to go, they can post a link or a file in the General section.
That way us 'morons' who are not welcome here can't possibly get in their way with our useless posts and questions. I am tired of the elitist attitude that some have here. Yes a lot of you know more than I do about this stuff, yes I am learning to do this stuff in my SPARE TIME. I am not in college, I do not have a job that allows me to sit in front of a computer all day(don't want it either). When I do have the time to get invloved, or if I find something useful, like many of us, I want to post it. I don't want to be a leach. I can only speak for myself with this. I may not be able to give as much as the devs do, but how can I possibly learn if I dno't ask questions?
The Search feature that people here are so in love with and can't wait to tell us "search is your friend"?
Its almost useless. Its rare that I can find what I'm looking for in the limited amount of time I have to be on here. Its generally easier for me, and many others I suspect, to ask the question and wait for an answer.
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I think the idea of tags is a great idea, but once again I don't know how easy this function would be.

thebadfrog said:
Then ask the question.
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Unfortunately, you're changing the rules of the present discussion with that. The OP stated "Devs work hard. They do the work for free and they should be revered and respected. But make no mistake, they know it and are not afraid to tell you to STFU and GTFO for merely making a suggestion or comment." The implication of that is you SHOULDN'T ask the question, you should just STFU.
IMO, the OP is WAY out of line. If the devs don't want comments/suggestions/questions, then they should keep their dev work private and not open it up for public consumption. Yes, the rest of the community wouldn't benefit as much in that case, but there's no excuse for an arrogant attitude like saying STFU for GTFO if someone merely makes a suggestion or comment on something that's been posted for public consumption.
If the devs are simply doing their work and sharing it just to have people fawn all over them for it and expect not to have to deal with the questions/comments/suggestions of the "unwashed masses", well, sorry, the world (and this site/forum, from my understanding) doesn't work that way.

Its the answering "How do I install clockwork?" question that is posted all the time even tho its clearly posted as a sticky. "I've followed the directions exactly and I cant get TnTlite to install".....wrong....you havent or it would have installed. "When are we gonna get an update to X rom?"......"How come we don't have Honeycomb yet?"....."Your rom bricked my device"....."Why won't someone answer my question? that was posted 15 minutes ago.....The devs do this on their own time and for the most part are happy to answer questions but when its clear that someone has no intention of learning for themselves and just want the info handed to them on a silver platter.......well....it gets old

The OP is out of line with his "psa" unless he speaks on behalf of the collective body of said developers.
This is a rhetorical post, I will not be responding again.
Edit: see what I did there with that last line?

atakapa said:
I like turtles
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Collaaaaa!!!!

If we want to grow the G Tab community ( aka continue to receive the excellent support from the Devs) we need to grow the number of G Tab users. If I were considering a new tablet purchase and stopped by here to check out the G Tab, I would not put it high on my list. If new members post in the wrong section or dup a post, it's Ok to send them a "Friendly" reminder, but to blast them like this is an insult to everyone here. Hell they might even be driven to buy a windows mobile 6 product.

Building ROM Review Website, BUT...

I own a great domain for this topic, but do not want to compete with XDA. I'd like to share the love and members that it may get, it is not a forum, either. How may I go about building this website and let people know about it on XDA, without being considered a spammer or advertising?

Scath said:
I own a great domain for this topic, but do not want to compete with XDA. I'd like to share the love and members that it may get, it is not a forum, either. How may I go about building this website and let people know about it on XDA, without being considered a spammer or advertising?
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Just throw a link (not too huge please) in your signature.

orangekid said:
Just throw a link (not too huge please) in your signature.
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Thanks very much! I will do that