I didn't want to start a new thread for this, but after consideration I determined that after searching for 3 days and not finding anything dealing directly with this issue that it might be my best bet
First off I want to say that although the issues I will describe seem to have happened after using JockyW's tools, I don't wish to make his tools the culprit. JockyW has contributed in abundance to the community here and I appreciate it all. I have mentioned part of this issue previously and JockyW had definitively stated that this could not be caused by his tools (assuming instuctions were followed). I do not want to second guess JockyW, however I believe that my experience and my mental capacity is sufficient to say that I followed all instructions 100% and these issues still appeared. I will not pass any judgement on that fact, other than to state it.
When I received my first Tilt a few months ago I CID unlocked it with OliPro's HardSPL and used JockyW's tool to Security Unlock it. When I sent that one back because of an issue with the back cover I performed the same procedures on my second Tilt. Both of these went flawlessly, not a single problem. Since then I have flashed dozens of ROMs and SPLs without issue. This shows that both the tools and my ability to properly use them have been successful for me in the past.
Earlier this week I attempted to use JockyW's Security Unlocker tool and his kaiser-relocker.exe to Security Re-lock my phone. I was doing this as an experiment to show that a phone did not need to be Security Unlocked in order to flash any HardSPL. The experiment proved to be correct, however after I re-locked the device I found that I could not get into USB mode in the bootloader, and that it was stuck on SERIAL. I tried all of the following:
1) Remove all USB devices from my XP machine's device manager
2) Reboot phone and PC
3) Remove Battery, SIM and SD cards
4) Reinstall ActiveSync
5) Try another PC
In all instances my phone was always recognized as an "Unknown Device" in Device Manager and would not go from SERIAL to USB mode.
However, when using Jump-SPL the phone would go into USB, so it isn't a problem with the physical hardware in the device. I further messed around with the phone, and did some things that I know I shouldn't have done and this caused the phone to eventually brick. This was not surprising and no one's fault but my own since I was moving into unchartered territory and taking (unnecessary) risks.
The next day my warranty replacement arrived and the first thing I did was load JockyW's original HardSPL 1.1 on it. Had no problems. I then went to use the Security Unlocker tool. The tool ran fine and stated that my device was successfully unlocked, however upon my next boot into the bootloader the device did not show "Security Unlocked" at the top of the screen. In addition I now seemed to have the "SERIAL" issue again on the phone. I performed all the same tests to no avail. If I use Jump-SPL or flash JockyW's 3.28/3.29 HardSPL with "force usb" mode then my USB works. However when I flash back to a Stock SPL, or to the original JockyW or OliPro I cannot get my device into USB mode.
GSLEON3 assisted me in using AT Commander to Security Unlock the phone even though I could not connect via USB. So now my phone is successfully unlocked, but still having the USB problems.
This is not a major issue, since I can still load 3.29 force USB and flash ROMs. I can also load Jump-SPL and flash a different SPL. However I am unable to use some tools that require the original HardSPLs and USB connectivity.
At this point, my questions are as follows:
1) Is there a way to force the device into USB mode when using the original HardSPLs (stock or "hacked")?
2) Does Security Unlocking a phone always mean that it is SIM unlocked as well? Since I am unable to connect via USB I cannot use the available SIM unlocker tools. I would like the phone to be SIM unlocked so I either need to find an answer to #1 or else find another way (possibly with AT Commander) to check and/or SIM unlock the device.
Before the above incidents I used all the available tools with little regard for any danger they could do. I felt that if i followed instructions then there really wasn't much danger I could do to the phone and coached others the same.
These experiences have now made me feel differently. I know that I followed all instructions perfectly, and I know that hundreds (if not thousands) of people have used these tools with no issues, as have I several times before. But some combination of these devices, procedures, and software have caused the issue.
Rather than investigate exactly why it happened, because that is already a proven reality (it did happen). I am hoping I can find some answers out to the above questions. This way if someone else experiences the issue we will have some solutions.
Thanks for any assistance you can provide on the matter.
I'm searching the threads for info on unlocking my phones? failing! I can't understand most of what I'm reading and I'm not sure this is something I can do myself. I purchased 3 of these SX56 in a lot and all are asking for a SIM PIN with my AT&T sim card.
I'm clueless and quite ignorant on the subject. I seen on thread saying to copy a link to the phone and run it?????? I don't know how to do that and I don't want to screw this up. any advice for a newbie?
freek2fast said:
I'm searching the threads for info on unlocking my phones? failing! I can't understand most of what I'm reading and I'm not sure this is something I can do myself. I purchased 3 of these SX56 in a lot and all are asking for a SIM PIN with my AT&T sim card.
I'm clueless and quite ignorant on the subject. I seen on thread saying to copy a link to the phone and run it?????? I don't know how to do that and I don't want to screw this up. any advice for a newbie?
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Welcome to the forum
Hope this helps: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Unlock_Sim
Good luck,
freek2fast said:
I'm searching the threads for info on unlocking my phones? failing! I can't understand most of what I'm reading and I'm not sure this is something I can do myself. I purchased 3 of these SX56 in a lot and all are asking for a SIM PIN with my AT&T sim card.
I'm clueless and quite ignorant on the subject. I seen on thread saying to copy a link to the phone and run it?????? I don't know how to do that and I don't want to screw this up. any advice for a newbie?
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First and foremost, you either have an SX56 or a Blue Angel. The Blue Angel is the SX66, the SX56 is an older device called by the name of Wallaby. Please specify which one you did get exactly so that we can direct you to the right place for help.
The sx56 is the phone that is SIM locked. I tried the XDA developers ROM for wallaby last night and failed. Now one of the phones are stuck in the "upgrading" mode and I'm afraid it's hopeless. any idea if it can be recovered? I think the problem was with the activesync, it wasn't current enough and I was required to get a newer version. I downloaded the latest free version and it said my phone was updating but it didn't??????
freek2fast said:
The sx56 is the phone that is SIM locked. I tried the XDA developers ROM for wallaby last night and failed. Now one of the phones are stuck in the "upgrading" mode and I'm afraid it's hopeless. any idea if it can be recovered? I think the problem was with the activesync, it wasn't current enough and I was required to get a newer version. I downloaded the latest free version and it said my phone was updating but it didn't??????
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All phones are SIM locked (unless it is unlocked by either manufacturer or by the user). If the phone was SIM locked and you tried to upgrade it without unlocking, then you might be in trouble. Now, your phone is in "upgrading mode", and what you are trying to say is that the phone is in bootloader mode... if it can access bootloader, then you still have a fighting chance.
First of all, we agree that you have a Wallaby and not a Blue Angel, correct? (the one with the big black external antenna that houses the stylus). If that is not the case, now would be a good time to let us know.
Second, your message wasn't exactly clear. what did you exactly do to your phone to get it stuck in bootloader? Please go step by step on what you did...
My phones are the Wallaby SX56, these are SIM locked but the carrier is AT&T according to the logo on the front of the phone. I put my AT&T SIM card in the phone and it asked me for a SIM PIN.
Here's the steps I took to get where I am currently,
went to Wiki XDA Developers and found my device "Wallaby" Clicked the link to unlockwiz and chose my device "I have a Wallaby" Next question asked if my ROM version was on te list, it was not and I choose accordingly. I did not have a serial cable and I choose not to back up my current ROM to opt for the "special edition" by XDA Developers This is a new phone to me and I had no need of any saved contact info, next I clicked the link download and install "special edition ROM" Here's the link I used
: http://www.romkitchen.de/tools/special_rom_1.2.exe.zip
***I think I just found my failure, under readme: system requirements do not include Vista! I went to microsoft and downloaded a newer version of activesync and it was not compatible with Vista. I ran a program there to fix the compatiblity issue and it said download complete.***
the phone recognized the USB connection last night and I started the download, during the download I got an error message that the COMM/USB port connection had failed and to check the connection in device manager.
at the time device manager was showing the HTC device but now it's not. I cannot find the activesync program on my computer and my device is not showing up anywhere when I connect it to the computer.
I noticed at the bottom of my screen, the "safely remove hardware" Icon used to stay on the bar until I clicked it to remove the device, now the icon closes after a few seconds when the device hasn't been disconnected. not sure if this is important or not but maybe helpful.
currently the phone is in bootloader and when I connect it to the USB it shows up in the device manager but status is "the device cannot start" code 10 please check for solution with microsoft.
It's obvious that I'm not smart enough to be attempting a fix________Nice Siemens SX56 for sale for parts only, make an offer?
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=XDAunlock
try the exe version
I don't know how to "try" anthing from where I'm at, My activesync is missing, the phone is not recognizing the USB link, vice versa. where do I start?
I'm only kidding about selling the phone for parts but I might not have a choice. I need recovery
I've got activesync again but not sure whats next, I get an error in windows mobile trying to connect to one of the other wallabies. I need to know how to recover the bootloader phone?????
Try to do it with a XP computer rather than a Vista one. It is not only a matter of ActiveSync, but the way the OS works with the flashing...
I had a feeling that was coming!
So tell me where to start once I get to an XP machine. I'm in bootloader so do I start the entire process over as if I weren't in bootloader? and am I using the right link "unlockWiz" to do what I need?
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I had a feeling that was coming!
So tell me where to start once I get to an XP machine. I'm in bootloader so do I start the entire process over as if I weren't in bootloader? and am I using the right link "unlockWiz" to do what I need?
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Just follow the steps in the wiki (exactly as you see them). I'll try to see if I can go back and check on the whole procedure (I have a Wallaby myself, which I haven't used since 2005, but I saved it from becoming a paperweight after a bad flash).
Try to see if you can flash the original rom with the XP machine. If you can't, then you may want to try the SD flash method... that's the one that saved mine.
Report back to see if it worked.
Good luck!
Wow, I can't find an XP machine anywhere???
Hi, I am new to WP7. I wanted to know how I can get windows Mango on my device. I found a few links, but got lost the instant I read how to do it. I have no idea what a chevron etc. is. Im using a Samsung Focus running Nodo 7390 and would like to know how to get started on getting mango on my device. Thank you in advance.
here
I apologize for being such a noob. I was also wondering if there's a step by step instructions on how to get mango on my device. Like what I need to do to my device before hand, do I need to upgrade or downgrade before, things like that.
Hi All,
firstly ive searched all day on XDA to find out why im getting the 'sorry i'm having trouble communication...' when running ChevronWP7.exe but still can't get it to unlock.
A little info:
Previously i was no-do and had the chevron Unlock then i upgraded to Mango and realised that my phones not unlocked anymore. So after a couple of months i thought id try and install Mango with the unlock.
Ive successfully installed a pre-NODO rom but cant get past the next stage of doing the Chevron unlock coz of this problem. Its really annoying me. What can i do to get past this stage? have i installed the wrong rom or something???
all advice will be appreciated.
Samsung Omnia 7 (On T-Mobile network)
OS version 7.0.7004.0
thanks
Your best bet is to contact them directly at [email protected]. Their twitter http://twitter.com/#!/ChevronWP7 also has some information you may want to check out to see if it applies to you.
You need to use old Zune (which came with old drivers and connectivity tool but I can't tell you exact version), and change date on your PC/phone to 2010 because Chevron's certificate is expired now.
What if I roll back my windows phone to version earlier than 7700? Would i then be avaliable to developer unlock - root my windows phone? i have seen the guide that uses chevron wp7 unlocking tool with chevron certificate installed on windows phone and later you just need to run chevronwp7.exe application on computer... Now, with build 8107 i cant, i tried it but i get error message about something phone not being connected to zune, or device is in lock-screen, but its not true... I have also seen forums on this topic, and other htc 7 trophy users said that going back to older version and installing chevron unlocked their phone and with an sideload app they managed to remain it unlocked even though they later updated to latest version of mango... Sorry for my grammar, english is not my native language
3. Post only using a clear subject and message.
You're most likely to receive a helpful answer to your question if you use a short subject title that describes your problem and a message that explains in detail what your problem is and what you've tried to solve it.
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Please use search function, most of the questions are already answered. If you still need to post your doubts please do it in an existing thread. Is really no need to open a new thread with same topic. Dispersed information helps to nobody.