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[Q] Questions after 3 days of reading Forums

Hi,
First post (yay!) so I have a few questions:
1. Where is the 'thanks' button? There are loads of you I wanted to thank but it has not shown up on my forums where the help section said it would be. Has shown up now - guess I had to make a post before I could thanks people
2. I have the emmc chip that is prone to failure but after reading the forums it seems there may be a way to recover from it - is that right, and the chip is no longer a big problem? (Absolutely cannot afford to brick this phone as it's a present from a wife already angry that I rooted it)
3. Should I try to upgrade my HBOOT to 2.00.2002 and Radio (to what? the PCIMG88.zip from the Chinese website?) and install a new ROM, or try and revert everything back to s-on, unrooted stock rom and wait for the official update that is rolling out now in the UK? I'd prefer the option with the least chance of stress and bricking the phone.
4. After flashing a new ROM (if I do) I understand I should avoid updating/installing apps at the same time so my emmc chip isn't fried - can I reinstall 1 by 1 from Titanium backup, and won't Google start trying to download and install everything else at once? How do I avoid that?
I'm in the UK on T-Mobile PAYG with (I think) an unbranded Desire S
Android Version
2.3.3
HTC Version
2.1
Baseband Version
20.28b.30..0805u_38.03.02.11_M
Kernal Version
2.6.35.10-g13f6602
[email protected]#1
Build Number
1.28.401.1 CL24243 release-keys
Softawre Number
1.28.401.1
Saga PVT Ship S-off RL
hboot 6.98.1002
radio 38.03.02.11_Me

1.look at bottom right corner
4.if u restore all apps with titanium backup at once its ok, i think..
but when u setup your phone dont add google account to sync your app..
restore your apps and then add it..
take a look to ben_pyett signature for some useful links..

Theses are just my opinions
Thanks button to bottom right of each post next to edit button,
Don't bother upgrading you're hboot to 2.xx.xxxx (not yet any benefit)
Don't bother going back to s-on.
Don't pull battery.
I'd try to install the normal ENG bootloader over your revolutionary one if you can.
I'd also suggest installing the 4 EXT recovery instead of Cwm.
Don't do anything to you're device that you don't fully understand.
You've done the most difficult part making your device s-off now install some quality custom roms and enjoy it.
Always take full nandroid device backups prior to performing any steps on your device, so that you have a safe point to roll back to in case of problems.
When installing a new custom ROM don't enter your google account details until the last stage of the setup after the device had stopped all configuration, then go into the market app and check to see of it's installing any apps, if it is then cancel downloads, only some versions of market attempt the parallel download of several apps which has been linked to killing eMMC. Later one download one application at a time which seems ok..add suggested advice I also use titanium backup app to restore my apps after the new installation of a ROM rather than relying on market installs.
There is now more information on the eMMC issue, what was previously thought of a dead device can now be recovered but each instance is unique.
Enjoy
Swyped from my Desire S using XDA Premium

Guys,
Thanks for the replies - when I asked about the Thanks button it wasn't there, it only appeared after I posted so that is sorted now.
Ben, I do have 4EXT already installed and a backup, this isn't my first android phone but I would still class myself as a noob - I think I know what I'm doing generally but probably don't.
I think I might try for the ENG Hboot if I can find that post but I thought I would need the 2.00.2002 Hboot for sense 3.0 roms.
What is the advantage of the ENG Hboot over the revolutionary one?
Also, I'm wondering if I will receive an OTA option to update since I have s-off and rooted - I'm pretty sure I should not accept as it looks like some people have been experiencing problems trying to install the OTA over their non-stock phones/settings.
Can anyone confirm that:
1) my phone would see the update if it rolls out and
2) I should not install it unless I go back to stock rom and s-on?
Installing a new ROM will alert my wife to the fact I have rooted it so I'm in no hurry until I decide I can't live without some spectacular new features

Yep, DO NOT INSTALL THE OTA
^when you are rooted and s-off.
It will lead to problems.
I'd really suggest you try out Hyperion ROM/Saga 3D
They are like the stock ROMs with sense 3.0 (new OTA based)
They are optimised and better than the stock ota anyway
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4myphone said:
Guys,
Thanks for the replies - when I asked about the Thanks button it wasn't there, it only appeared after I posted so that is sorted now.
Ben, I do have 4EXT already installed and a backup, this isn't my first android phone but I would still class myself as a noob - I think I know what I'm doing generally but probably don't.
I think I might try for the ENG Hboot if I can find that post but I thought I would need the 2.00.2002 Hboot for sense 3.0 roms.
What is the advantage of the ENG Hboot over the revolutionary one?
Also, I'm wondering if I will receive an OTA option to update since I have s-off and rooted - I'm pretty sure I should not accept as it looks like some people have been experiencing problems trying to install the OTA over their non-stock phones/settings.
Can anyone confirm that:
1) my phone would see the update if it rolls out and
2) I should not install it unless I go back to stock rom and s-on?
Installing a new ROM will alert my wife to the fact I have rooted it so I'm in no hurry until I decide I can't live without some spectacular new features
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You shouldn't even consider OTA updates unless you're S-ON and STOCK....
certainly don't try it on a rooted device, just asking for trouble...I always simply disable the check for updates and Tell HTC features..
There are benefits to having ENG HBOOT (although I'm not 100% of all of them) I believe that you're able to downgrade easier, should you require the HBOOT number also doesn't stand out like a sore thumb......6.xx.xxxx should you want to return device!
All the new Sense 3.0 and Sense 3.5 ROMS work on old HBOOT, so just no point in upgrading, I did the upgrade before I released this and it's not worth going back.
EDIT: You also need to have a word with the misses! It's now your phone so you should be able to do what you want to it - whatever makes you happy!!

ben_pyett said:
You shouldn't even consider OTA updates unless you're S-ON and STOCK....
certainly don't try it on a rooted device, just asking for trouble...I always simply disable the check for updates and Tell HTC features..
There are benefits to having ENG HBOOT (although I'm not 100% of all of them) I believe that you're able to downgrade easier, should you require the HBOOT number also doesn't stand out like a sore thumb......6.xx.xxxx should you want to return device!
All the new Sense 3.0 and Sense 3.5 ROMS work on old HBOOT, so just no point in upgrading, I did the upgrade before I released this and it's not worth going back.
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Was the hboot update 2.xxxx official, or was it from the Goapk forums?
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium

olyloh6696 said:
Was the hboot update 2.xxxx official, or was it from the Goapk forums?
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium
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Mine? think it was from the forums, but, same version number as OTA released HBOOT? why do you ask?

ben_pyett said:
Mine? think it was from the forums, but, same version number as OTA released HBOOT? why do you ask?
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Oh, just wondering, as i never saw the update posted officially...
So if it is official, why does the official sense 3.0 rom not make full use of the new partitions?
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olyloh6696 said:
Oh, just wondering, as i never saw the update posted officially...
So if it is official, why does the official sense 3.0 rom not make full use of the new partitions?
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I believe this is because the cooks have made it this way.....My understanding is that the "official" S-On OTA upgrade installs the new version HBOOT and makes use of this new layout.
Someone correct me if this is wrong?

ben_pyett said:
I believe this is because the cooks have made it this way.....My understanding is that the "official" S-On OTA upgrade installs the new version HBOOT and makes use of this new layout.
Someone correct me if this is wrong?
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Oh right !
How can a OTA install a new hboot, radio, and complete new UI, but the user doesn't lose any data ?!
It's strange .. when we want to upgrade, we have to do a full wipe
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T-Mobile Branded Desire S Rooting

Hi all
I just wanted to make this post to make sure I know the exact process before I go ahead with this. Let me give you a little background....
I got a T-Mobile branded Desire S about 8 months ago and left it completely stock, after a while had an OTA update and from then on had constant problems with not receiving txts etc. So I S-offed and rooted with the RevX website and manually updated the radio to the latest version I could find. This fixed all my problems and everything was fine for months but then one day the phone just froze and without reading up too much I just started pressing buttons to reset/pulled the battery etc and ended up killing the phone completely.
Fast forward to now and I've just got a replacement phone but it has the older software on again so I'm not receiving txt messages again. I guess I need to update the radio image again to sort it but was hoping someone could let me know the exact process.
I assume I should use the RevX website again to S-Off/root then install CWM and the updates but which order and which versions should I be installing? I want to get it right up to date with 3.3.5 and sense 3.0 but not one of the custom ROMs.
Really appreciate anyone who takes the time to answer so thanks in advance.

First of all, please post stuff like this in Q&A. Secondly alpharevx is outdated now. Use revolutionary to S-OFF.
But now I'm confused. Do you want to update the radio and then S-ON again and get the latest update, or install a stock rom?
Sent from my Desire S using xda premium

Well ideally I'd like to not need to do anything! but at the moment I don't receive txt messages so I need to get it working. I don't want to use custom roms anyway so just need to upgrade to the latest official version.
If I understand correctly from what I've read I should use revolutionary to s-off then a program to root the phone. Then I could install 4ext and then install one of the 3.3.5 versions that works on a s-off/rooted phone and then finally update the radio to the version that works with 3.3.5?

Been reading up a little more and I will be using revolutionary to s-off the phone but should I install the recovery that comes with that? I assume this is CWM? Can I then overwrite it with 4ext if I want to?

rlzzzz said:
Been reading up a little more and I will be using revolutionary to s-off the phone but should I install the recovery that comes with that? I assume this is CWM? Can I then overwrite it with 4ext if I want to?
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Yes, you can.

engineering hboot

ive seen references to an eng hboot for the inspire 4g. im still a lil fuzzy on what DHD stuff can be flashed on the inpire so bear with me
im am radio s-offed and wondering if there is a download for an eng hboot somewhere thats not hidden inside a root tool.
i miss some of my fastboot commands and would like to run an engineering bootloader if one is available that works with all firmwares.
im not normally one to ask for info,but searching the entire inspire section for eng hboot,engnineering hboot,eng bootloader,engineering bootloader and even just plain eng and engineering didnt turn one up.
thanx for any info

scotty1223 said:
ive seen references to an eng hboot for the inspire 4g. im still a lil fuzzy on what DHD stuff can be flashed on the inpire so bear with me
im am radio s-offed and wondering if there is a download for an eng hboot somewhere thats not hidden inside a root tool.
i miss some of my fastboot commands and would like to run an engineering bootloader if one is available that works with all firmwares.
im not normally one to ask for info,but searching the entire inspire section for eng hboot,engnineering hboot,eng bootloader,engineering bootloader and even just plain eng and engineering didnt turn one up.
thanx for any info
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It's out there - but jams up booting on Inspire devices shipped with Gingerbread. If that's you - don't even think about it. If your phone was shipped with Froyo, applied and used correctly, it's fine, however unnecessary.

On my Inspire ENG S-OFF has been made correctly with DHD One click ENG S-OFF tool, but I do not remember with what firmware it was on sale.

thanks for the replys. i was able to find hboot-eng.nb0 inside the s-off tool mentioned above.
just curious... whats the difference in shipped with GB vs froyo? i picked this phone up used,so no idea what it shipped with
by jams up,i assume you mean it hangs at the htc screen and wont boot?

I bought my Inspire at the beginning of December, and tried that same tool. Everything worked fine, them I rebooted. It died.I yanked the battery, and no response. 10 minutes later, then phone came on by itself and vibrated for about two minutes while stuck on the boot screen. Then it loaded just fine.
But, it would do the same thing if I ever rebooted.
Thinking I would be slick, I flashed the original stock rom from htc so it would install the original bootloader. Bricked immediately! It would never leave the bootscreen.
So, I returned it to Walmart, and got a new one. So, if you aren't sure about when your phone was shipped out, don't do it. Bad juju.

too late! i was running the 3.12.405.1 wwe rom and flashed the eng hboot. rebooted bootloader,and it was a .85 hboot,so i thot it would be ok,but stuck at htc screen on reboot.
unlike your experience,i flashed the stock att ruu and it was fine. currently reflashing and resetting up 3.12.405.1 rom.
did the tool turn your radio secure flag off and super CID you? maybe its got somethin to do with that? or something with the tool? i had installed it via a PD98IMG file in fastboot
thanks for the warning,if id seen it sooner,i prolly wouldnt have bothered. one thing i did notice was that with the eng hboot i was unable to fastboot oem rebootRUU resulted in a "FAILED!" error

scotty1223 said:
unlike your experience,i flashed the stock att ruu and it was fine. currently reflashing and resetting up 3.12.405.1 rom.
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Sooo jealous. I don't really know if the tool ever truly worked because I could never get back into bootloader to check any of it. Now, it isn't so much that I need eng s-off, but that it has issued a challenge by bricking my phone. It's personal.

Galaen said:
Sooo jealous. I don't really know if the tool ever truly worked because I could never get back into bootloader to check any of it. Now, it isn't so much that I need eng s-off, but that it has issued a challenge by bricking my phone. It's personal.
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It's highly doubtful you actually bricked it. I can fix these. But since you no longer have it, we'll never know.

[Q] Unroot Revolutionary HBOOT 6.98.1002

Hi there,
I've been at this all day. I rooted my Desire S a few months ago without issue. I can't seem to return my phone to stock. The reason I want to is I have an OTA update from Orange (France) for my Desire S. It'll bring it up to And 2.3.5 and Sense 3.0. I know I could probably find ROMs around, but I always like to take advantage of free operator updates, when I can. The update just will not install.
I've flashed the phone with hboot.img, 4EXT's image for the Desire S, ClockWorkMod, everything. Nothing has worked. I have tried lots of the guides and tutorials here, but nothing seems to return the phone to S-ON or remove the HBOOT 6.98... that it has.
Can anyone point me in the right direction here?
Thanks a million guys,
T

Flash an hboot 0.98.2000, then run an older/latest RUU, then apply update if you aren't on the latest.
It will be 10 times faster to just flash a pre rooted stock ROM or any sense 3 ROM. No point in "taking advantage" your logic there is flawed.

Try this post:GUIDE: new hboot 2.00.2002 for sense3.0 adnroid 2.3.5 which is very good or the other here: Guide: New hboot 2.00.2002 (ENG S-OFF)

So much info im getting very confused! ruu's and s off.....

Had my HTC ONE S for a while now
When i first got it i followed all the guides to unlocking the bootload and rooting etc and ended up running viper rom, and various others along the way. You know how it is!
Anyhow i was fiddling once and some how managed to delete the sd card and it wouldnt mount.
I fixed that and im not sure if its a coincidence but i now have random call drops even with a good signal. radio randomly coming on and music apps closing...........mainly when using head phones....................
The following is what was suggested to me.................
Sneakyghost said:
Not easy. I'd say do S-OFF as the very first thing (well relatively, of course do the unlock, do the SuperCID, then...). S-OFF ensures you can just flash any RUU and no matter if locked or unlocked or on custom ROM or not.
You can also only do SuperCID and flash any RUU.
Once done, pick the 3.16 WWE RUU. Please do NOT do the OTA which is offered on that RUU if you do not have S-OFF yet as that OTA disables any chance to get S-OFF currently.
If you happen to sit in the US and are on Tmobile, check HERE for latest tmob RUU because you might want Wifi calling and such. Else, just select any you like. I recommend WWE though.
Not really hard then once you got S-OFF. The hard part is understanding S-OFF procedure. If you get that done everything else is pretty easy. There is a thread for S-OFF with a good guide.
Regarding GPS Fix from Crypted: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1563226 (have that open in my browser always cause its a magic little fix)
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Apparently my htc one s is a international one?
Your CID "HTC__001" Suggests you have an international one X and not a carrier locked one xl. You will need to post in the international one x forums.
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Any ideas on what i do now as i cant find a htc one s international forum?
EDIT: regarding the above, no one seemed sure and i couldnt seem to find a definitive answer so rather than messing around changing the cid and risking a brick. Some one suggested RUU_Ville_U_ICS_40_S_HTC_Europe_2.31.401.5_Radio_1.06es.50.02.31_10.09a.50.04L_release_275655_signed.exe
as my radio is 1.06es 50.02.31 and the 2.31 works with hboot of 1.14 which mine also is....................
after all this im even more confused lol!
So currently ive relocked the bootloader using fastboot and run the above RUU and im back to stock i believe?
What would one suggest?
im on hboot 1.14.0002 and radio is 1.06es i believe.
Ideally id like to get back to viper rom
Might test for a few days if i can resist a custom rom just to check
thanks

Even I'm on hboot 1.14.. Get an S-OFF, flash a latest radio ie., 1.15. That should work.

so ifi flash s off i can run any run any ruu without risk of bricking? by changing the cid thing thanks?

Gavin01 said:
so ifi flash s off i can run any run any ruu without risk of bricking? by changing the cid thing thanks?
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Risk of bricking came from.SUPER-CID and OTA update, also downgrading h-boot.

first get supercid, then get S-off, then change cid back to original or desired one. if you have a international S4 device original cid wil do fine.
then ruu what you want, s-off simplifies flashing of ruus and roms and more things.
if you might update the device with latest jb without S-off you cant get S-off no more (as of now), you now have the option.
you can always revert back.

Right guys im still not reallty understanding all this sorry.
My phones now coming up with OTA update which i understand i shouldnt run as this then blocks all chance of getting S-Off in the future?
As i understand it my HTC one is a international one so i dont need to change the cid?
So i need to do is get S-Off and run another RUU?
Ill try and follow the guide to S-Off but even that im struggling with Can anyone tell me what RUU i should be running when i manage to get S-Off. My details are above in the first post i think>?
Thanks for your patience.

You need supercid to get soff (face palm)
Then change cid back to original HTC one. To do any otas you want.
Advice:
Before you start. look at your current software version Google the ruu from that info, save the file. When need to ever change back in the future, and then ota back to latest version.
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im still scared of this super cid thing as ive read a few people have bricked their phones
Although i keep getting the annoying message that a system update is available so i must try and do something soon.
Unless i just go straight to viper

Gavin01 said:
im still scared of this super cid thing as ive read a few people have bricked their phones
Although i keep getting the annoying message that a system update is available so i must try and do something soon.
Unless i just go straight to viper
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If it's just the message you want to get rid of, just turn off automatic update checks.
HTC_One_S | S-OFF | ViperOneS_2.2.0 | Black&Blue_Inverted_Sense | Bulletproof_1.4
Inverted Sense _4+_and_5_click me

Hello
Ok .. since i see some nice gentlemen here responding to queries with patience .. I'd like to post one myself.
I obtained S-Off the very next day i got my One S .. things were running smooth on stock. Looked out for some ROMS and finally installed one. Now I want to revert to my stock ROM while maintaining S-off/root. My problem is only that i don't find this ROM stable or the kernel .. just want to revert to stock.
Will flashing 3.16 WWE RUU take me back to stock firmware and kernel?
Would really appreciate the help