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Galaxy S2 or Motorola Xoom

My friend is speaking in my ear that GS2 is way better than Xoom, I tell him no, another friend (Galaxy S2, Xperia X10 and iPad 2 user/ passive Xoom user because I let him use) tell no too, so let's proof my friend he is wrong.
He says the awesome ppl says that, but no one is more awesome than XDA, so please post here with your opinion and why
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How do you compare a tablet to a phone? I'm seeing apples and oranges here.
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d3athsd00r said:
How do you compare a tablet to a phone? I'm seeing apples and oranges here.
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I agree, what is better for you depends on your need. I have both, and find the xoom more indispensable and definitely better for web surfing, email, calendar work, and the periodic movie. You just can't beat the real estate (screen size). If phone calls or texting are top priority, then SGS2 is your choice. It is a great phone and I love it, but the screen is too small for heavy work. If you need everything and truly must rely on one device, I'd recommend the international version of the samsung note. I'm actually waiting on one that will replace my SGS2... just want more screen to make it more useful. The international version has the same internal hardware as the SGS2, and is nearly as fast (a bit slower due to pushing more pixels).

Nokia 3100. Don't even look at anything else, its the best by far.

TheStickMan said:
Nokia 3100. Don't even look at anything else, its the best by far.
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Hahahaha for sute it is
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Like someone else said it's hard to compare a tablet to a phone because they each have some functionality

Nexus tablet rumors/discussions thread

Okay guys, so at this point a nexus tablet seems imminent. Discuss what you would like to see in one, rumors you heard, etc.

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Okay guys, so at this point a nexus tablet seems imminent. Discuss what you would like to see in one, rumors you heard, etc.
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id like it to be on verizon w/lte, 7 inch HD screen option, and tegra3.
id settle for the samsung galaxy tab 7.7 but as a google tablet.

I Heard It Will Be Running On MeeGo

That would be nice. I would like it to compete with the kindle fire for price, it would bring android much closer to being the every day device that some people think that the ipad or iphone is. I would love ice cream.

I'm just looking for a wifi version. I don't need another tie to a carrier.

I think there will be a WiFi and a carrier version. Now that Motorola deal is approved the rumors will soon become true.

Here is some leak pictures...
http://androidandme.com/2012/06/tablets-2/rumor-nexus-7-tablet-pictured-in-press-images/
I do hope they bring out a 10 inch as well...

well, it will most likely come with a Tegra 3 cpu and jelly bean. However, I was hoping for an exynos processor though, but since they are going to release several tablets, at least one of them should have it. (optimist)

vx117 said:
well, it will most likely come with a Tegra 3 cpu and jelly bean. However, I was hoping for an exynos processor though, but since they are going to release several tablets, at least one of them should have it. (optimist)
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I highly doubt that Samsung will give away Exynos chips for devices with this price tag. When they'll release a tab with the latest SOC it will cost no less than 600-700, it makes more sense this way IMHO.
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Maybe 7inch hd screen... and exynos 5xxx processer....?!
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For the rumored price a tegra 3 is more than generous.
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Thought I would resurrect this thread as Google io is just a week away. Latest rumour is $199, no 3g or lte, only front facing camera.
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springy said:
Thought I would resurrect this thread as Google io is just a week away. Latest rumour is $199, no 3g or lte, only front facing camera.
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I don't mind, I'd still take it. Cameras on tablets are for weirdos anyway. Wifi is all I need, especially now that I know for sure that hotspot is coming soon to Nokia devices.
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vnvman said:
Cameras on tablets are for weirdos anyway.
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Right? I belive I never used mine. My guess was someone would use it in an app for a 3d mapping, sort of like in 3DS, but no. It's there so people would feel weird taking pictures with microscopic lens in a corner of a book.

springy said:
Thought I would resurrect this thread as Google io is just a week away. Latest rumour is $199, no 3g or lte, only front facing camera.
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I've never used the rear camera on a tablet anyway.
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blackhand1001 said:
I've never used the rear camera on a tablet anyway.
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On mine I barely even use the front one
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Convert

Hello all. I am new around here. I reciently bought a Nexus7. As a Techno geek I couldn't resist.
I just finished working in a film where 90% OF THE CREW were using iPhones. Including myself.
There were a couple of crew on android devices. They swore by them.
When the nexus 7 was put up for sale I figured this was an inexpensive way to check out android hardware and software.
In a word I am very impressed.
Jellybean runs fast and smooth.
Battery life is amazing.
The customization options blow me away.
The screen on the nexus 7 is great.
But then most of you know all of this already.
I am here as a convert. I have been using an Ipad since the day they became available.
I like the iEverything. But I have learned that there is a hell of a lot of flexability with android that just is not available on apple products.
Everybody I show my nexus7 to regardless of their brand affiliation is impressed.
I have joined this forum so that I can learn as much as possible about android and related hardware.
I look forward my time here.
Nexus7mofo
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Welcome to the light
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Welcome home sir.
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Welcome to XDA and Android. If you get time read this New User Guide for some helpful info.

nexus7mofo said:
Hello all. I am new around here. I reciently bought a Nexus7. As a Techno geek I couldn't resist.
I just finished working in a film where 90% OF THE CREW were using iPhones. Including myself.
There were a couple of crew on android devices. They swore by them.
When the nexus 7 was put up for sale I figured this was an inexpensive way to check out android hardware and software.
In a word I am very impressed.
Jellybean runs fast and smooth.
Battery life is amazing.
The customization options blow me away.
The screen on the nexus 7 is great.
But then most of you know all of this already.
I am here as a convert. I have been using an Ipad since the day they became available.
I like the iEverything. But I have learned that there is a hell of a lot of flexability with android that just is not available on apple products.
Everybody I show my nexus7 to regardless of their brand affiliation is impressed.
I have joined this forum so that I can learn as much as possible about android and related hardware.
I look forward my time here.
Nexus7mofo
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Welcome to Android Family Dear..
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Good choice.
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Where to next?

I don't have an upgrade yet, but as the date draws nearer (December) I really start looking at what is coming out between now and then, and I must say I'm not feeling particularly confident about any given upgrade path.
If it's true the next Nexus will be Nexus Optimus based off the Optimus G I'd probably consider the Optimus G since having identical hardware to the galaxy S worked many wonders for the captivate.
Outside of that, the Xperia Tl looks like a pretty great device if it gets enough support to see decent long-lived dev support.
So, what upcoming phone do you think will have the best dev support? I would really like to keep getting updates long after the manufacturer officially drops support.. and Even if it's only 400$, I probably will skip the nexus since 16 gigs isn't enough without expandable memory storage..

Same. I also have an upgrade due this December and the new phones on at&t aren't interesting. I would've gone to the one x but their at&t version has ran into a wall because of a recent update that locked the boot loaders down, hard. (At&t officially does not support unlocked boot loaders for it). So, the Cappy is still moving forward
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panda_mode said:
Same. I also have an upgrade due this December and the new phones on at&t aren't interesting. I would've gone to the one x but their at&t version has ran into a wall because of a recent update that locked the boot loaders down, hard. (At&t officially does not support unlocked boot loaders for it). So, the Cappy is still moving forward
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I was looking at galaxy note 2. 2gigs of ram and quad core onix
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panda_mode said:
Same. I also have an upgrade due this December and the new phones on at&t aren't interesting. I would've gone to the one x but their at&t version has ran into a wall because of a recent update that locked the boot loaders down, hard. (At&t officially does not support unlocked boot loaders for it). So, the Cappy is still moving forward
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I'm cautiously optimistic about both the Xperia TL and the Optimus G.
I know that back mfr support can ruin otherwise great phones.. both in terms of upgrades and devs ability to make custom roms.. So I'll be looking anxiously at the LG Optimus. If the One x+ keeps the 64 gb of storage or even just 32gb of storage I would seriously consider it too assuming the dev support was adequate.
leezrd said:
I was looking at galaxy note 2. 2gigs of ram and quad core onix
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I am really worried the Note 2 will be far to big for my taste. The 4.7" phones already seem *huge* to have to stick in my pocket. Aside from that I'd be worried about the quad core exynos processsors which I hear make it hard to cook up custom Roms.

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I was looking at galaxy note 2. 2gigs of ram and quad core onix
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Sweet, I might consider that too. I'm not feeling the galaxy s3 for at&t at all and HTC one x is stuck on a rut with that 2.20 update.
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I'm cautiously optimistic about both the Xperia TL and the Optimus G.
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LG Optimus G looks very promising. I love its hardware design (on the same level with HTC one x or better, IMO), that quadcore Qualcomm s4 processor, and the screen is fantastic. I wish At&t included the 13 mp camera. But then again all cellphone cameras will never be perfect.
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panda_mode said:
Sweet, I might consider that too. I'm not feeling the galaxy s3 for at&t at all and HTC one x is stuck on a rut with that 2.20 update.
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LG Optimus G looks very promising. I love its hardware design (on the same level with HTC one x or better, IMO), that quadcore Qualcomm s4 processor, and the screen is fantastic. I wish At&t included the 13 mp camera. But then again all cellphone cameras will never be perfect.
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I want a decent camera but, honestly my absolute biggest concern is long term dev support. I wish there was an environment more "open" to dev with carriers. I understand they don't want to have to deal with people bricking their phones.. At the same time "voided warranty" scares off most people I talk to about custom roms in the first place.. So I don't think they are really gaining anything by locking down phones.. People either care about the warranty or they don't.

Snow_fox said:
I want a decent camera but, honestly my absolute biggest concern is long term dev support. I wish there was an environment more "open" to dev with carriers. I understand they don't want to have to deal with people bricking their phones.. At the same time "voided warranty" scares off most people I talk to about custom roms in the first place.. So I don't think they are really gaining anything by locking down phones.. People either care about the warranty or they don't.
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Well I'm guessing it's because carriers want you to buy a new phone for every upgrade date to make $$$ so they lock boot loaders (of course, that assumption could be false). For long term development support I will buy an international Samsung galaxy s_ device or a nexus.
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panda_mode said:
Well I'm guessing it's because carriers want you to buy a new phone for every upgrade date to make $$$ so they lock boot loaders (of course, that assumption could be false). For long term development support I will buy an international Samsung galaxy s_ device or a nexus.
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Unfortunately, I'm kinda tired of the SAMOLED displays.
As far as why they do it, forcing customers to buy new phones is a pretty horrible reason TBH.
There are far too many people who are angry at manufacturers for failing to update fast enough. When you remove their ability to install their own update, you're just giving them a reason to find another product.

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Unfortunately, I'm kinda tired of the SAMOLED displays.
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Me too, which is why I'm going to the One X or Nexus 4. I have a Nexus 7 and support is good. But I don't think any phone out there will be better than my captivate, development wise.
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panda_mode said:
Me too, which is why I'm going to the One X or Nexus 4. I have a Nexus 7 and support is good. But I don't think any phone out there will be better than my captivate, development wise.
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Captivate came in a golden age were on at&t when had no real android competitor. Great specs nothing locked really and almost exactly same as nexus device
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leezrd said:
Captivate came in a golden age were on at&t when had no real android competitor. Great specs nothing locked really and almost exactly same as nexus device
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Haha, yup that's a good point. I'm glad that the cappy was my first android device and is/was filled with plenty of developers to support it. I'm kind of sad to leave it this December, TBH.
What do you think of the SGS3?
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Best Phone Ever!
panda_mode said:
Haha, yup that's a good point. I'm glad that the cappy was my first android device and is/was filled with plenty of developers to support it. I'm kind of sad to leave it this December, TBH.
What do you think of the SGS3?
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I left my Cappy last October after the USB port died and I got tired of switching out batteries to use it for the SGS II. My SGS II just had an unfortunate accident involving water, so I pulled out my trusty Cappy which I could not part with since it was my 1st Android device. Thank god for all of the awesome development that has and continues to unfold for this device. I am on Jelly Bean 4.1.2 and its like I never left. I do not know how much longer I am going to use it (Nexus 4 looks tempting), but it continues to be an amazing phone that I will continue to go back to whenever other phones fail on me.
Kind of off topic but I really wanted to say how much of an awesome phone this is. Props to all of you who kept it for a full two years! :good:

panda_mode said:
Haha, yup that's a good point. I'm glad that the cappy was my first android device and is/was filled with plenty of developers to support it. I'm kind of sad to leave it this December, TBH.
What do you think of the SGS3?
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I like my galaxy s3 alot
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Nexus 4 price is hard to resist, lack of storage and lte is unfortunate but can't beat 350 for a top of the line device. And it's a nexus.

I'd consider the nexus 4 if I didn't have the nexus 7 already
Might as well go with the school of fish since the galaxy s 3 is $99 now at select stores. Cant beat that price with all the features it has. But you gotta admit the HTC one x is a nice looking phone, and dare I say, and to which nobody has mentioned yet, the Lumia 920 (in red) *gasp*
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Most major retailers will have GS3 for around $50 on black friday..if you are stateside...also Sam's club will have it for .96 cents
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One thing im wondering as I look at the nexus 4 is that there are 3 buttons back, home and multi task (which is long press home for us) one of the things i love is the dedicated options or settings key, anyone have any experience moving to no options button? One (of many) things that bother me when im using an iPhone is the stupid steps you have to take to change app settings.
I'm reconsidering this phone for that reason,(although im sure XDA can give me options to remedy this issue) am i the only one who thinks a dedicated multitasking button is a waste and long press home is a fine alternative to open up another shortcut option?

master2828 said:
am i the only one who thinks a dedicated multitasking button is a waste and long press home is a fine alternative to open up another shortcut option?
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+1 here. Maybe a custom ROM for the Nexus will give you the ability to do that.
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Snow_fox said:
I don't have an upgrade yet, but as the date draws nearer (December) I really start looking at what is coming out between now and then, and I must say I'm not feeling particularly confident about any given upgrade path.
If it's true the next Nexus will be Nexus Optimus based off the Optimus G I'd probably consider the Optimus G since having identical hardware to the galaxy S worked many wonders for the captivate.
Outside of that, the Xperia Tl looks like a pretty great device if it gets enough support to see decent long-lived dev support.
So, what upcoming phone do you think will have the best dev support? I would really like to keep getting updates long after the manufacturer officially drops support.. and Even if it's only 400$, I probably will skip the nexus since 16 gigs isn't enough without expandable memory storage..
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Getting a Nexus is your only safe bet for long term dev support and you don't have to deal with locked bootloader and losing your warranty by unlocking it (you have no choice with Sony and HTC, because you enter your IMEI to unlock it which void your warranty, unless you do some third party unlocking method). Also for the price of the Nexus 4 and being a Nexus device, I don't see why one would get the Optimus G with locked bootloader and probably poor support, if only for the 32gb storage which is not worth it compared to all the things the Nexus offer (ie, Google updates, easy to flash, best dev support and highesst quality rom, pentaband, elitist Nexus fanboys community).
master2828 said:
am i the only one who thinks a dedicated multitasking button is a waste and long press home is a fine alternative to open up another shortcut option?
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Various CyanogenMod and AOKP-based rom is capable of customizing the on screen NavBar, including for the Captivate. Try AOKP rom and look for the Navigation bar settings.

panda_mode said:
+1 here. Maybe a custom ROM for the Nexus will give you the ability to do that.
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Custom ROMs allow you to change all sorts of things about the navigation bar. You can have more buttons, different buttons, even shortcuts/widgets.
Also, I can say from experience that the three button setup is better than the four button setup.
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Android Tablet

I own an iPad 3rd generation and I am extremely unhappy with what Apple just did. I am however happy with my iPad (even tough I cant stand the iPhone and wouldnt trade my HTC One X for anything else). My experience with Android tablets isn't great. I played with the Galaxy Note Tab 10.1 and it sucks big time and the Nexus 7 is too small. The Transformer Prime TF300 sucked I find; a couple of friends have it and found it laggy and buggy (I got random reboot only looking at pictures. Maybe a custom rom can fix that?!)
I want to basically sell the iPad not because I am not happy with it but because I am fed up with Apple. What would be a good replacement for my iPad?
-I want retina display aka high DPI
-Smooth
-10"
What is out there that I missed?!

Asus transformer pad infinity. Seems to be what you are looking for.

Samsung (Google Nexus 10) potentially being released in the Android event in 4 days. It will supposedly have a higher dpi than the iPad 3.
That's your gold mine right there
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gagdude said:
Samsung (Google Nexus 10) potentially being released in the Android event in 4 days. It will supposedly have a higher dpi than the iPad 3.
That's your gold mine right there
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Ohh I did not know about that one!

G-Bus said:
Ohh I did not know about that one!
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A few pics of the quick start guide was leaked today. Might want to check it out
http://m.techradar.com/news/mobile-...oduct-manual-for-the-samsung-nexus-10-1107346
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Yeah, I'm hoping for a Nexus 10. Let's hope Google delivers that in a few days.

OP there is a thread in place for your post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1846277
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