Many sensation owners do not believe that S-off wil be coming by HTC. too all you disbelievers out there, i attach proof. Just spoke to a customer advisor right now. this is what i was told. i thought i would make a new thread as all the other threads get clogged up with off topic clutter, so please keep this topic related, and update it if we receive any more info on bootloaders. There is hope out there
Naturally i pencilled in my device number
I hope this is true, I mean it shouldn't be hard for them HTC to unlock their own bootloaders! Look at Motorola they did it. Hopefully it will be soon! Before fall I am keeping my fingers crossed!
i hope we will have the S-OFF in a few days ....
i cant live much more with s-on
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i hope we will have the S-OFF in a few days ....
i cant live much more with s-on
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well i guess if it's real will take a couple of weeks
Of course no comments on the date....sigh at HTC.
I know. And of course its true. The ref number erased. Is my sensation. They are just repairing fuzzy earpiece.
But i asked him for an update on the bootloaders, if they would unlock mine and date. Those were his replies
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MLIGN said:
I hope this is true, I mean it shouldn't be hard for them HTC to unlock their own bootloaders! Look at Motorola they did it. Hopefully it will be soon! Before fall I am keeping my fingers crossed!
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+1 for that, why we don't have the same unlocking process like Sony ??
I'm not really fussed with S-OFF as the internal memory is the only reason I rooted my Desire BUT it would be nice to remove the apps I don't use just to tidy things up a bit. That and put the stock boot animations on
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I'm not really fussed with S-OFF as the internal memory is the only reason I rooted my Desire BUT it would be nice to remove the apps I don't use just to tidy things up a bit. That and put the stock boot animations on
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I'd like to see CM7 on mine, much preferred CM7 + launcher Pro on my Desire to Stock HTC Sense on my Sensation.
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+1 for that, why we don't have the same unlocking process like Sony ??
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Htc probably wanna cover.their back from noobs who brick their devices
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ikhzter said:
Htc probably wanna cover.their back from noobs who brick their devices
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If your a noob and you brick your device, you should be required to pay a fee for them to unbrick it. That should only be fair.
i think the noob will not unlock the bootloader, my oncle have a Desire and he don't know nothing about bootloader and flash, i do that for him....
That chat box doesn't say anything that hasn't already been said. It's just worded different. A waste of a thread that will do nothing but get peoples hopes up.
Nothing more than we already know. BTW, the earpiece will likely come back sounding the same.
I'm new to android.
Can someone clear this out for me:
* S-OFF means Bootloader unlocked?
* I'm asuming HTC will make an update for all devices which automatically unlocks the bootloader of any sensation? Or will the bootloader only be unlocked with the new devices?
call me hater, i don't trust HTC, hope they will prove that I'm wrong
Another coming soon promise.
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Another coming soon promise.
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Well I hope they hurry up. Would like it soon
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Another coming soon promise.
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True. Well I hope they hurry up. Can't wait for it
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you are not alone, i think many people wont that s-off, and it's not the question that we all not patient, but we don't trust HTC no more !!!!
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I have the G2x right now and I keep considering the Sensation. The only thing that is stopping me is that the bootloader may be hard to crack. The devs have yet to do it for several devices and this may be the next. Will this stop you or are you still buying?
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Still buying it, too tempting not to
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I rerurned my g2x just for the sensation.
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Was definitely a deal breaker for me with atrix, but sense I can live with until its hacked. Blur and touchwiz I cannot, so no, I'm still getting it
Rellikzephyr
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From what HTC leaks said, it will have a level of security like thunderbolt or incredible S.
If it's like thunderbolt it will be very easy to unlock, if it's like IS given the actual R&D of the devs...it ''may'' be unlocked once released if the IS method is working.
So it doesn't look like an impossible mission for our good devs
All the N1,Desire and DHD devs will work on it, very few are going towar the SGS2
Yes. It IS a deal-breaker for me. It was the only reason I didn't get the Incredible S two months ago.
So far it looks like the only way to unlock the Incredible S is with an XTC Clip and the last time I looked it was only working for some models.
Bin4ry may have made some headway on this but the last post I see from him with any new information on the matter was on the 26th of April when he said, "I said that i made progress YES, but i have not achieved anything."
TBH I've been having a terrible Android experience so far. Being on the Motorola Milestone, I still don' tknow what it's like to be on a fully free device... not to mention the 256mb RAM really CRIPPLES the entire experience of this phone.
So while the specs on these new phones are nice, I think I'd be getting a screwed up vision of Android once again if these phones never get unlocked. Somehow I had hoped Moto's bootloader would get cracked. Boy was I wrong.
The question is : why getting the risk ? there is plenty of unlocked bootloaders devices out there from LG and SE and even some better spec'd like the SGS2. LG and SE aren't very supported by devs but HTC and Samsung are the best supported one, so if a free bootloader is important for you and you don't even want to worry about dev support take an unlocked one
But for me it is not a dealbreaker as I'm getting both (SGS2 and Sensation), but for someone that will only pick one of the two you might have to think twice..
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The question is : why getting the risk ? there is plenty of unlocked bootloaders devices out there from LG and SE and even some better spec'd like the SGS2. LG and SE aren't very supported by devs but HTC and Samsung are the best supported one, so if a free bootloader is important for you and you don't even want to worry about dev support take an unlocked one
But for me it is not a dealbreaker as I'm getting both (SGS2 and Sensation), but for someone that will only pick one of the two you might have to think twice..
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Or stick with the G2X.
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Not at all, I heard The same thing when I got The myTouch 4g. I'm confident devs will figure out a way to root they always do.
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Scoop24 said:
Not at all, I heard The same thing when I got The myTouch 4g. I'm confident devs will figure out a way to root they always do.
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I didnt hear that with the mytouch and I had it since launch. Just heard it mainly with the atrix.
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Not at all, I heard The same thing when I got The myTouch 4g. I'm confident devs will figure out a way to root they always do.
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Rooting and unlocking the bootloader is two diff things.
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Yeah it's a huge deal breaker to me Can't have another failure like the milestone :/
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Rooting and unlocking the bootloader is two diff things.
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MyTouch4G and G2 bootloader was lock. Dude don't worry.. if you have doubts just buy what you like Samsung S II or LG
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Yeah it's a huge deal breaker to me Can't have another failure like the milestone :/
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How is the milestone a failure its dev section has loads of roms and hacks
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How is the milestone a failure its dev section has loads of roms and hacks
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Still the kernel can't be changed. Keep in mind that a stable 2.2 rom wasn't possible until motorola released beta's of that rom. This due to the fact that the 2.2 rom didn't really want to work with the 2.1 kernel. Motorola isn't really great at writing kernels either.
I already know the next android version will probably won't work.
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How is the milestone a failure its dev section has loads of roms and hacks
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HTC have their bootloader sign is different from Motorola bootloader sign with encryption is two different things htc don't use encryption moto does.
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Rooting and unlocking the bootloader is two diff things.
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So it will be rootable and we can block ads, use apps requiring root, etc, just not load different ROMs?
Not overly concerned about custom Roms, but definitely want to be able to run some apps that require root.
If I am understanding this correctly my G2x is going back tonight.
I'm completely content to run a stock ROM if it's stable. I've never had occasion to root or put an alternative ROM on my Nexus One and all of my experiences with the HD2, G1, and Viewsonic G-Tablet ROMs have been mixed, Cyanogen or otherwise.
Definitely not a deal breaker.
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HTC have their bootloader sign is different from Motorola bootloader sign with encryption is two different things htc don't use encryption moto does.
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Hmm I did understand that the latest update of the wildfire made it impossible to flash custom firmware. Hope it doesn't go that way.
Is there a good source rather than sifting through the many threads in dev that are concerning this? - is there anyones twitter i can keep an eye on? - etc
I know it sounds vague, but there isnt ONE place to get the latest - and mining through 50+ pages of nonsense to find the good stuff is brutal!
thanks in advance!
yeah, follow alpharev on twitter:
https://twitter.com/#!/alpharevx
alpharevx AlphaRev Development
Making some good headway on the newest beta. Testing, testing and moar testing. #alpharevx
Cool... Thanks guys
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hope we will get s-off next week
Am I the only one who is thinking the reason for the delay is they can't reproduce on the branded Sensations?
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Am I the only one who is thinking the reason for the delay is they can't reproduce on the branded Sensations?
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Yes.
10 char.
Incorrect. Thats not a problem.
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Am I the only one who is thinking the reason for the delay is they can't reproduce on the branded Sensations?
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Why would that be an issue exactly?
I am just thinking they want to make sure it works on both before releasing it to the public so no bricks there device. That's all.
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I am just thinking they want to make sure it works on both before releasing it to the public so no bricks there device. That's all.
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Sure. But that's not what you said. You said, is it possible it's not working at all on branded devices. I was just wondering why you thought that might be the case. There is only a slight difference between a branded and unbranded ROM. Not massive. And the hardware is identical.
i'm waiting
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Sure. But that's not what you said. You said, is it possible it's not working at all on branded devices. I was just wondering why you thought that might be the case. There is only a slight difference between a branded and unbranded ROM. Not massive. And the hardware is identical.
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Radio hardware is not the same.
Reckon they just wanna test every aspect before releasing. Fine by me
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theredundant said:
Reckon they just wanna test every aspect before releasing. Fine by me
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Fine by me too! Not everyone has the money to buy a new phone, OUTRIGHT, just because something wasnt tested...Dont forget, this is for EVERYONE, not just you dorks that live at home with no expenses and , therefor, money to blow.
Matt
I think we need another forum topic about this.
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I think we need another forum topic about this.
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LOL I agree we only have about 10 threads on this so far
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Sdobron said:
Radio hardware is not the same.
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The radio hardware on EU and US versions will be different yes. But not different between branded and unbranded devices.
The only delay, will be making sure it is idiot proof.
Why make it idiot proof? Just make it so it does not brick your phone.
Rooting is not for newbs. I hope they make you do some IQ test before you can download it.
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Why make it idiot proof? Just make it so it does not brick your phone.
Rooting is not for newbs. I hope they make you do some IQ test before you can download it.
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Because even if you do say "Read all the instructions" you can guarantee that some idiot will brick their phone because they don't know what they're doing. And they WILL blame AlphaRev. Just the way these forums are
From his G+ stream
Keyan Mobli (kmobs)
Cm7 is getting sensational
https://plus.google.com/113702637309752822154/posts
5th post
Pics/link or it didn't happen. You know the Rule 32...
f.
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http://twitter.com/#!/kmobs/status/94561010219884544
Interesting:
My favorite thing about the sensation? The screen resolution. Second favorite? S-O_ _ fill in the blank letters. . Thanks again +Dan Anderson
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i know . darn teasers lol
kmobs was sent a S-OFF device by T-Mobile and he is starting work on CM. He has never really straight said that but I have talked to him and inferred what he was saying
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kmobs was sent a S-OFF device by T-Mobile and he is starting work on CM. He has never really straight said that but I have talked to him and inferred what he was saying
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That is awesome! defiantly cant wait for the S-off to happen. That is when you will see the true magic of this beast
And alpharev are constantly testing s-off on htc sensation and evo 3d
Their twitter:
http://twitter.com/#!/alpharevx
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kmobs was sent a S-OFF device by T-Mobile and he is starting work on CM. He has never really straight said that but I have talked to him and inferred what he was saying
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Lucky guy. Also happy to see T-Mobile actively supports the development community which leads me to believe that they won't block the S-OFF roll out from HTC.
This topic hasn't been made ten times before...
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This topic hasn't been made ten times before...
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Nice to see you have a Sensation. We've always owned the same phone at a given point haha
Interesting.... Hmmmmm
Vandam500 said:
Nice to see you have a Sensation. We've always owned the same phone at a given point haha
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Glad I'm not the only one who gets the fever every time a new phone drops.
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crking1980 said:
That is awesome! defiantly cant wait for the S-off to happen. That is when you will see the true magic of this beast
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Dunno. Coming from my n1 running cm7 I don't miss it. Apps like feedr go poof, weak camera, poor corporate network support. All things that just work on the sensation stock rom. With the exception of nandroid there's not
A thing I need root for. On the n1 I needed it to work around all the limitations of the various roms out there, not the case with the sensation.
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Dunno. Coming from my n1 running cm7 I don't miss it. Apps like feedr go poof, weak camera, poor corporate network support. All things that just work on the sensation stock rom. With the exception of nandroid there's not
A thing I need root for. On the n1 I needed it to work around all the limitations of the various roms out there, not the case with the sensation.
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I personally like my phone to not be a bloated piece of trash with lag and horrible battery life. Not even counting the endless features of CM...
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Hello, I am thinking of buyin one of the two phones. The difference in price is 85$.
Is it possible root the phone and install custom roms, kernels etc as it is with Desire S?
ShadowReaperGR said:
Hello, I am thinking of buyin one of the two phones. The difference in price is 85$.
Is it possible root the phone and install custom roms, kernels etc as it is with Desire S?
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We are waiting for S-OFF to be disabled.. (disabling the security features that prevent installing custom roms, etc)
Rumors are that S-OFF is coming on Wednesday, so just about now.. but it's just a matter of time.
I'd go for the Sensation.
No not yet but it seems like Alpharevx has found a patch that will give s-off and then we will be able to flash custom roms, kernels etc. The release date is uknown but anyway HTC has announced that they will unlock the bootloader on late august. Desire s is a.very good phone but sensation is overall a better phone. If you have the extra money i would recomend sensation. I m not flaming you here but it would be better if you did a little search before posting. Your questions ( especially about s-off ) have been answered over and over and over and over again in this forum . Anyway hope i've helped. Cheers
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We are waiting for S-OFF to be disabled.. (disabling the security features that prevent installing custom roms, etc)
Rumors are that S-OFF is coming on Wednesday, so just about now.. but it's just a matter of time.
I'd go for the Sensation.
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I've been working alot last few days. Where did you see wednesday for release day??
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I've been working alot last few days. Where did you see wednesday for release day??
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Its a rumor in a post in one of these many threads about it. I can't find it.
The thread you are looking for? :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1185691
Lol its hard to keep up with all the threads. I'll just wait and see. Thanks
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This is not a fair comparison, its like comparing a wasp with a jet.
I'm curious how would everyone here feel about the HTC OTA Update if it was to come on the 1st of August or more simply put prior to Alpharevx S-0ff and the OTA closes the exploit they "say" they have accomplished.
FUBAR IMO.
Any other thoughts on this?
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I'm curious how would everyone here feel about the HTC OTA Update if it was to come on the 1st of August or more simply put prior to Alpharevx S-0ff and the OTA closes the exploit they "say" they have accomplished.
FUBAR IMO.
Any other thoughts on this?
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The chances of HTC actually putting out the update anytime soon are very very slim and none IMO. The thought of what is the chances of snow in Fla in August comes to mind. I believe if they were really serious about putting out the unlock update that it would have been out by now or a definite time frame established( I believe they mentioned something about August to test and release in Sept but no time frame(just coming soon) for the US sensation, correct me if I am wrong.). I really have lost faith and respect for HTC. The only other phone that I have had that rivals the Sensation in issues is the G2X and I have them both at this time(I know I am a sucker for all the latest and newest electronic toys) They both have marvelous potential and excellent hardware but who knows if and when they will ever live up to their promises or becomes the phones they have the capability to be.
Was it a bad idea for Bell users to do the latest update? (1.35.666.1)
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HTC is actually UNLOCKING the bootloader, not trying to lock the phone. Wait for 2 months for that to have happened. Rejoice if AlphaRev is earlier, if you want.
I wish Batman would get s-off before the Joker (aka Alpharevx)....!!!!!!!! I think they are full of it!!!! A video does not prove anything.
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I wish Batman would get s-off before the Joker (aka Alpharevx)....!!!!!!!! I think they are full of it!!!! A video does not prove anything.
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Well keep waiting for htc then. and actually a video proves alot(even better th an pix). I wonder Wut u would b saying if there was no video at all n they just said that they had s-off
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I guess if I showed you a video of Jesus you would believe it?
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I guess if I showed you a video of Jesus you would believe it?
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if you are a believer, you would believe even without seeing the video, but if your an unbeliever, you wouldn't believe even if Jesus is standing right in front of you.
I wouldn't care because I'm not about to install an OTA before I get S-OFF.
Agreed I won't UAE the OTA until I have s off
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manson1978 said:
I wish Batman would get s-off before the Joker (aka Alpharevx)....!!!!!!!! I think they are full of it!!!! A video does not prove anything.
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your thoughts are based on what? Not there first phone doin this to bro
AND THIS IS WHY I SAID NO MORE POSTS ON ALPHAREV X - every single one of these threads instantly turns to crap
NO MORE OR I WILL HAND OUT VACATIONS