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just rooted my buddies epic, which was definitely not as smooth as the captivate, and got to play around with it for a bit. i have to say, not impressed. feels like a big bulky clunker. not as refined as the captivate and is really a pain in the ass to root. tinkering with the epic made me appreciate my captivate that much more.
anyways just my short story of the day..
Thanks for sharing.
Can you give an example of how the phone was not smooth plz. Everyone else says that its smoother stock than the captivate
Sent from my phone so excuse the spelling errors
the process to root the phone is what i was referring to as not as smooth as our phones. there is a "one click" root for the epic but it took multiple tries to get the
1 click program to even see the phone and then once it saw the phone it was another issue to get the root over to the phone. not an easy update.zip like our phones.
the speed of the phone felt the same as the captivate stock vs. stock. once the dev's get a good root package down for the epic it will be better.
one other thing i didn't like about the epic is that there is no way to change what shortcuts you have running in the touchwiz tray. its the little things i guess.
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one other thing i didn't like about the epic is that there is no way to change what shortcuts you have running in the touchwiz tray. its the little things i guess.
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Even after:
Applications -> [Menu] -> View Type -> Customizable Grid -> [Menu] -> Edit
You still can't move applications around? That's trippy. lol
nope, you dont even have that option. when you press menu in the app drawer you get the choice to list or grid. i am thinking it has something to do with the keyboard? i dont know.
How heavy is it? The moment was one heavy phone. I mean HEAVY.
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How heavy is it? The moment was one heavy phone. I mean HEAVY.
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it is noticeably heavier than my captivate with the body glove case on it. also the battery cover that it uses is SO cheap. its one piece of very thin plastic that clips on to the back with some really weak clips. i pulled the cover off of his phone with my non existent fingernails with great ease.
EPIC is stuck with an older version of TouchWiz 2.5 and lacks quite a few features TW 3 has on Captivate. The reason is because of the required landscape support for home screen when keyboard slids out.
Why not bake in landscape support on 3.0? Is it that radically different?
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Why not bake in landscape support on 3.0? Is it that radically different?
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Well uh, I love my Captivate, but lets face it, Samsung hasn't exactly gone the extra mile on these phones.
That's how they get released with things like GPS issues or the lag troubles, etc. (Or the slower 2.2 upgrades.) Could Samsung have built in landscape on 3.0 and make it work with a not unreasonable amount of effort? Absolutely. Did they have to move units? Obviously not. So did they? Nope.
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Why not bake in landscape support on 3.0? Is it that radically different?
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EPIC is the first slider in Galaxy S line. Samsung could wait 6 more months (or even more) to add landscape support in TW 3.0 or release the phone now and sell millions. It's a no brainer.
HTC spent couple years try to make landscape mode work perfectly for TF3D/Sense home screen on WM.
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HTC spent couple years try to make landscape mode work perfectly for TF3D/Sense home screen on WM.
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While that may be true, it didn't take them years to release landscape mode in subsequent releases. If Samsung has figured out landscape in a previous version, I find it a little hard to believe it would have been more than a couple weeks to port it over.
Its not like Samsung's QC is super high. If they ported it and FUBAR'd yet another thing its not like many people would have been surprised.
Then again, im not a programmer, so maybe my POV is unrealistic and skewed.
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My first Android phone was the Tmobile (US) G2, so I got used to the plain vanilla OS. When I got my Sensation 4G in June I was immediately put off by Sense, which in my opinion is inferior. To get closer to the stock feel I use Launcher Pro and this certainly helps, but I still see Sense running in the applications list. If I kill the process it momentarily gets removed from the list but is there again when I next check. I have read that this could be because Sense also controls the dialer and contacts, so my question is if I replace those functions with a 3rd party application will Sense be gone for good?
Just let sense run in the background. It's not using cpu cycles so it wont affect performance or battery much usage at all. And unless you're reluctant to flashing new rom, try this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1204912) out. A new version is supposed to release today which is supposed to be off the hook. And its the closest you can get to stock that I know of so far.
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Just let sense run in the background. It's not using cpu cycles so it wont affect performance or battery much usage at all. And unless you're reluctant to flashing new rom, try this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1204912) out. A new version is supposed to release today which is supposed to be off the hook. And its the closest you can get to stock that I know of so far.
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I am not yet at the point where I want to flash a new ROM. So are you sure leaving Sense running isnt going to negatively impact my battery life? I have read other posts stating Sense is a cpu/battery hog.
How can you not like Sense, i'm biased as every android phone i've owned has been an android with HTC Sense so I can't live without it, the Launcher pro looks cheap and too basic, you need Sense to add a bit of flare to your phone!
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How can you not like Sense, i'm biased as every android phone i've owned has been an android with HTC Sense so I can't live without it, the Launcher pro looks cheap and too basic, you need Sense to add a bit of flare to your phone!
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Just personal preference to be honest. Sense is essentially "eye candy", and I guess I am just more of a utilitarian kind of person.
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Just personal preference to be honest. Sense is essentially "eye candy", and I guess I am just more of a utilitarian kind of person.
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Yes its definitely personal preference. It would take away the shine of having an android phone if you didn't use it. Android is very basic and the "normal" hope screens are boring compared to HTC Sense. Anyway i'm all for sense .
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Just personal preference to be honest. Sense is essentially "eye candy", and I guess I am just more of a utilitarian kind of person.
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From A Pyramid... On Ana Nicole Smith UI (SENSE) NEED CM7!!!
I would like use Miui!
What do you knows about it when can we have it?
Maybe tomorrow
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I am not yet at the point where I want to flash a new ROM. So are you sure leaving Sense running isnt going to negatively impact my battery life? I have read other posts stating Sense is a cpu/battery hog.
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Sense is a cpu/battery hog while its active. On android however, when apps are put into the background, they become inactive.
Now I'm not a developer so I may be wrong. I based this conclusion off this article which leedroid linked to in his rom: http://lifehacker.com/5650894/andro...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
In Android, processes and Applications are two different things. An app can stay "running" in the background without any processes eating up your phone's resources. Android keeps the app in its memory so it launches more quickly and returns to its prior state. When your phone runs out of memory, Android will automatically start killing tasks on its own, starting with ones that you haven't used in awhile.
The problem is that Android uses RAM differently than, say, Windows. On Android, having your RAM nearly full is a good thing. It means that when you relaunch an app you've previously opened, the app launches quickly and returns to its previous state. So while Android actually uses RAM efficiently, most users see that their RAM is full and assume that's what's slowing down their phone. In reality, your CPU—which is only used by apps that are actually active—is almost always the bottleneck.
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NEED MIUI?
Mcyates said:
How can you not like Sense, i'm biased as every android phone i've owned has been an android with HTC Sense so I can't live without it, the Launcher pro looks cheap and too basic, you need Sense to add a bit of flare to your phone!
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It's slow, it's bloated, takes battery life and has no 'advanced/configurable' features a la CM7 or LauncherPro.
Sense is much much more than the launcher. It's the whole ecosystem on a HTC Android phone. Hopefully when Ice Cream Sandwich hits Google will stop manufacturers putting their own launchers on top of Android, or at least make it an option. I don't mind a few widgets (flip clock) but Sense has gone too far.
Roll on CM7 and MIUI!
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It's slow, it's bloated, takes battery life and has no 'advanced/configurable' features a la CM7 or LauncherPro.
Sense is much much more than the launcher. It's the whole ecosystem on a HTC Android phone. Hopefully when Ice Cream Sandwich hits Google will stop manufacturers putting their own launchers on top of Android, or at least make it an option. I don't mind a few widgets (flip clock) but Sense has gone too far.
Roll on CM7 and MIUI!
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Both is better then other!
What's good in sence?
Use more efficiency?
Use more of battery?
Give you more what do you dont get from apk?
Or simple esay gold drog?
PLEASE explane me.
thx
I like using LauncherPro in place of Sense because you can add all the eye candy you want (even Sense looking eye-candy) without having to include the whole battery wasting, memory hogging, and gigantic Sense Eco-system.
Based on what appears to be confirmation that Sense is a memory/cpu/battery hog, will running an alternate launcher be sufficient to prevent this or do I need to somehow fully disable it?
Just use your launcher pro. Don't worry about sense, she won't bother you anymore.
I have been trying to use launcher pro but the app drawer animation stutter a lot do you have the same issue? ?
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tomS01 said:
NEED MIUI?
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+1 on that
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I have been trying to use launcher pro but the app drawer animation stutter a lot do you have the same issue? ?
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Yeah, I had that problem too. I bought my phone yesterday and was up till dawn messing around with it. Launcher pro seems extremely laggy, so much so that sense was a welcome change. LP worked better on my magic!
Yeah well Launcher Pro is pretty much abandoned by the developer. Hasn't been updated once since at least october last year.
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What do u expect HTC to bring to the table wit sense 4.0 I heard the HTC edge is apost to have it .
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Tez MyTouch said:
What do u expect HTC to bring to the table wit sense 4.0 I heard the HTC edge is apost to have it .
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I don't really care what it features. If it's a resource hog like 3.0 and 3.5 is. I will not be using it.
Sense is like a fat chick on a tricycle. It does alot of work to get not very far.
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I don't really care what it features. If it's a resource hog like 3.0 and 3.5 is. I will not be using it.
Sense is like a fat chick on a tricycle. It does alot of work to get not very far.
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I disagree. I go a full day of usage with sense and im ok. Sense makes the phone way better with all its eye candy and simplicity. AOSP roms are awesome but dull. I've had all sorts of vanilla roms and they bore me. Nothings beats the unlock screen of sense 3.0.
As far as sense 4.0? Idk, change in looks? And definitely change so it can mingle with ICS.
sense 4.0..User friendly, animated icons and adaptive to user use...
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I don't really care what it features. If it's a resource hog like 3.0 and 3.5 is. I will not be using it.
Sense is like a fat chick on a tricycle. It does alot of work to get not very far.
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Strongly disagree. I'm on sense and got 21 hours with a little over two hours of display time. And its as smooth as any cm7 based rom for me. Free ram is wasted ram.
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I disagree. I go a full day of usage with sense and im ok. Sense makes the phone way better with all its eye candy and simplicity. AOSP roms are awesome but dull. I've had all sorts of vanilla roms and they bore me. Nothings beats the unlock screen of sense 3.0.
As far as sense 4.0? Idk, change in looks? And definitely change so it can mingle with ICS.
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Strongly disagree. I'm on sense and got 21 hours with a little over two hours of display time. And its as smooth as any cm7 based rom for me. Free ram is wasted ram.
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You guys are not listening to me/reading my text. I posted nothing about sense absorbing battery. I posted that it's a resource hog. Did i say it was ugly? nope. did i say it wasn't eye candy? nope.
I posted that i was a resource hog.
I can run AOSP, use Launcher Pro with the calendar, messages, and social widgets. Then change the launcher background to a Sense style and get the same "home screen" look at sense with a fraction of the resources used.
And unused RAM is RAM that can be used by other programs.
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You guys are not listening to me/reading my text. I posted nothing about sense absorbing battery. I posted that it's a resource hog. Did i say it was ugly? nope. did i say it wasn't eye candy? nope.
I posted that i was a resource hog.
I can run AOSP, use Launcher Pro with the calendar, messages, and social widgets. Then change the launcher background to a Sense style and get the same "home screen" look at sense with a fraction of the resources used.
And unused RAM is RAM that can be used by other programs.
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What "resources" are you referring to? Nothing more than RAM? I usually have about 130 mb of free ram on sense and can't tell a difference between that and a cm7 rom with 300 free mb. And what's so bad about the use of "resources" if you can still get great battery life and run a smooth rom?
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why come into a thread that's specifically about Sense, and tout your love of AOSP?
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What "resources" are you referring to? Nothing more than RAM? I usually have about 130 mb of free ram on sense and can't tell a difference between that and a cm7 rom with 300 free mb. And what's so bad about the use of "resources" if you can still get great battery life and run a smooth rom?
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Well I have about that same amounted of ram 150-130 but 300 would be useful I do a lot if multitasking
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Well I have about that same amounted of ram 150-130 but 300 would be useful I do a lot if multitasking
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Yeah if I do a lot of multitasking I'll usually kill some apps using the built in task manager. But my whole point is, if I can't tell a difference between the speed and fluidity of the two in normal daily use, then why's it make a difference?
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I don't really care what it features. If it's a resource hog like 3.0 and 3.5 is. I will not be using it.
Sense is like a fat chick on a tricycle. It does alot of work to get not very far.
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And its fun to ride but don't let your friends see you
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Tez MyTouch said:
Well I have about that same amounted of ram 150-130 but 300 would be useful I do a lot if multitasking
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What amount? It's FREE memory. The memory that doesn't get used, because the system kills the "aged" apps way before they reach anywhere close to memory boundaries. No multitasking will bring you to the boundaries of memory with that much free RAM, even if you keep 5 games open simultaneously (and they usually save state and drop from memory anyway, if they're programmed well).
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You guys are not listening to me/reading my text. I posted nothing about sense absorbing battery. I posted that it's a resource hog. Did i say it was ugly? nope. did i say it wasn't eye candy? nope.
I posted that i was a resource hog.
I can run AOSP, use Launcher Pro with the calendar, messages, and social widgets. Then change the launcher background to a Sense style and get the same "home screen" look at sense with a fraction of the resources used.
And unused RAM is RAM that can be used by other programs.
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We're listening.
Resource hog? Resources are there to be used, that's the whole point of having CPU- and graphically-strong phone with 768MB RAM and 400MB of system partition size. If I wanted to run AOSP, I'd stick with Nexus One, it was plenty enough for that.
The points were discussed MULTIPLE times:
AOSP dialer sucks badly, and no replacement out of the box is good enough and preserves full functionality under Gingerbread (clearing missed calls requires converting dialer to system app, and not all dialers support it). Dialer One lags badly with contact pics. Go Dialer EX has other bugs.
AOSP Email sucks just as bad. No moving mail between folders?
AOSP camera sucks big time.
AOSP lack of power controls in the notification bar sucks.
AOSP system interface is way uglier. Especially Gingerbread notification bar icons.
AOSP calendar sucks in its UI.
And you can't get those with any additions to the stock, because the additions mostly lack functionality and aren't well-integrated together.
Actually, I'm pretty satisfied with Sense 3. I'd like Sense to have better multilanguage support, though. And a customizable button or 2 in the dock bar. And some way to quickly pick a number for a contact with multiple numbers in dialer.
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I don't really care what it features. If it's a resource hog like 3.0 and 3.5 is. I will not be using it.
Sense is like a fat chick on a tricycle. It does alot of work to get not very far.
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literally the worst false analogy ive ever heard.
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What amount? It's FREE memory. The memory that doesn't get used, because the system kills the "aged" apps way before they reach anywhere close to memory boundaries. No multitasking will bring you to the boundaries of memory with that much free RAM, even if you keep 5 games open simultaneously (and they usually save state and drop from memory anyway, if they're programmed well).
We're listening.
Resource hog? Resources are there to be used, that's the whole point of having CPU- and graphically-strong phone with 768MB RAM and 400MB of system partition size. If I wanted to run AOSP, I'd stick with Nexus One, it was plenty enough for that.
The points were discussed MULTIPLE times:
AOSP dialer sucks badly, and no replacement out of the box is good enough and preserves full functionality under Gingerbread (clearing missed calls requires converting dialer to system app, and not all dialers support it). Dialer One lags badly with contact pics. Go Dialer EX has other bugs.
AOSP Email sucks just as bad. No moving mail between folders?
AOSP camera sucks big time.
AOSP lack of power controls in the notification bar sucks.
AOSP system interface is way uglier. Especially Gingerbread notification bar icons.
AOSP calendar sucks in its UI.
And you can't get those with any additions to the stock, because the additions mostly lack functionality and aren't well-integrated together.
Actually, I'm pretty satisfied with Sense 3. I'd like Sense to have better multilanguage support, though. And a customizable button or 2 in the dock bar. And some way to quickly pick a number for a contact with multiple numbers in dialer.
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Totally agree with everything you said. I always felt like AOSP would never be enough to make my friends with iPhones jealous just because of its dull appearance. I feel like Sense can do that though.
Also, what do you think about ICS in regards to all that criteria? From some of the stuff I've seen, vanilla ICS looks pretty impressive and I feel like it corrects a lot of the things I didn't like about stock GB and previous versions.
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I didn't check the ICS too thoroughly, and in the official presentation not even one of the points I was looking for were mentioned. I'll probably grab the SDK update and take a look at the emulator some time, but I'm not in a hurry I'm most interested in functional points like dialer, email and camera, and for checking those I'll need to work on that emulator a bit - which is why I'm lazy to do it.
+1 on Sense superiority. I've gone back and forth many times between AOSP and Sense, and while there are things I LOVE about AOSP/cm7, overall the experience packs less of an impact, as you guys said. When running Sense (now Sense 3.5), it just feels like I have higher quality software on my phone. And as I still get solid performance and battery life, it's worth the extra usage of resources.
Those concerned about resources should know that android operates just as fast with 300 MB of free ram as it does with 1 mb. It will use what it needs and has no iimpact on how much iis left over.
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Those concerned about resources should know that android operates just as fast with 300 MB of free ram as it does with 1 mb. It will use what it needs and has no iimpact on how much iis left over.
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Someone understands that this is not Windows... ;-)
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Is there any rom having sense 4.0?
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Someone understands that this is not Windows... ;-)
Sent by impulse courtesy of BinDroid...
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And we are all greatful for it
Looks like the aftermarket has been working hard on Android 4.0 compatibility because I was able to install both the ADWLauncher EX and LauncherPro Plus launchers on my ICS phone and they work fine. I chose to stay with ADWLauncher EX because of looking much more like the original ICS UI and allowing the same folder creation as in ICS. And the dock looks much the same. The only drawback is the lack of the search bar at the top. I prefer it.
Usability wise, these launchers completely smooth out ICS to buttery goodness. ADWLauncher EX allows for scrolling speed adjustment that makes a quick flick a pleasurable experience, no lag to be suffered anywhere. Both launchers bring back the more desired widget choosing function of previous Androids...tap & hold on homescreen.
It's really pleasing now. You get the functional goodness of ICS (excellent multitasker, softkeys and all that ICS brings performance-wise without the troubling UI performance issues.
Oh, and you get to use the OEM scrollable widgets.
Oh dear... And now you're back to liking ICS. You're quite impulsive with your opinions, what will it be tomorrow?
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Looks like the aftermarket has been working hard on Android 4.0 compatibility because I was able to install both the ADWLauncher EX and LauncherPro Plus launchers on my ICS phone and they work fine. I chose to stay with ADWLauncher EX because of looking much more like the original ICS UI and allowing the same folder creation as in ICS. And the dock looks much the same. The only drawback is the lack of the search bar at the top. I prefer it.
Usability wise, these launchers completely smooth out ICS to buttery goodness. ADWLauncher EX allows for scrolling speed adjustment that makes a quick flick a pleasurable experience, no lag to be suffered anywhere. Both launchers bring back the more desired widget choosing function of previous Androids...tap & hold on homescreen.
It's really pleasing now. You get the functional goodness of ICS (excellent multitasker, softkeys and all that ICS brings performance-wise without the troubling UI performance issues.
Oh, and you get to use the OEM scrollable widgets.
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I have a great setup on an Evo I modded for someone with Launcher Pro skinned to look exactly like ICS, on a CM7 ROM with Theme Chooser set to an ICS theme. It looks and feels amazing.
I don't think I will ever use stock launcher on an aosp device, it's so funny how 3rd party launcher guys make it so much smoother than google does.
ICS as an OS, although I like it, is starting a trend I don't like as "user friendly" to the point where things are harder to deal with. I actually prefer GB style widget adding instead of the HC sort and ICS sort where you swype the dock to get to the widgets. Other things like that. I don't know, maybe I just need to get used to it.
This should go in your other thread about ICS being a letdown, rather than starting a new one. Would you raise that for a mod please?
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This should go in your other thread about ICS being a letdown, rather than starting a new one. Would you raise that for a mod please?
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Have a look at that thread...I won't spoil it for you, go take a look.
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Have a look at that thread...I won't spoil it for you, go take a look.
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I see it was quite rightly closed.
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What I meant was that you should not have started this thread. Please ask a mod to merge them or close this one.
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Wow...really? You didn't see that the other thread was closed??
Apologies for seeming insensitive.
Duhh..i thought the biggest new thing about ICS would have been the ability to have a decent experience out of the box, knowing that i can change the launcher doesn't impress me much. Tbh 2.3 had already nearly all of the functions i needed, what i really wanted was a smoother and simplified ui, with less workarounds to be used, and at the end of the day it doesn't seems like ICS is really bringing that stuff to the user. Just my 2 cents.
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Duhh..i thought the biggest new thing about ICS would have been the ability to have a decent experience out of the box, knowing that i can change the launcher doesn't impress me much. Tbh 2.3 had already nearly all of the functions i needed, what i really wanted was a smoother and simplified ui, with less workarounds to be used, and at the end of the day it doesn't seems like ICS is really bringing that stuff to the user. Just my 2 cents.
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I tend to agree, I like 2.3 with a custom launcher over 4.x with stock launcher any day.
I just did a clean install of Android 4.0.3 on my HD2 and the difference is night and day. It is sublime. So buttery smooth and fast. The Galaxy Nexus is now back on the table and a wanted piece of hardware.
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I just did a clean install of Android 4.0.3 on my HD2 and the difference is night and day. It is sublime. So buttery smooth and fast. The Galaxy Nexus is now back on the table and a wanted piece of hardware.
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Does it compare well to the ui smoothness of wp7 as not having ics myself I am curious?
Dave
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mistermentality said:
Does it compare well to the ui smoothness of wp7 as not having ics myself I am curious?
Dave
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Not with the stock UI. It approaches iPhone smooth, but not WP7 smooth. But I am using ADW EX launcher and with that, it is WP7 smooth. I was using ADW on 4.0.2 and it made ICS very usable. But with 4.0.3, the difference is spectacular, to put it modestly.
Wish we could get this for Samsung Tab 10.1's already.
I'm liking the stock launcher. My Nexus runs like a champ.
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I'm liking the stock launcher. My Nexus runs like a champ.
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Yeah, the stock launcher is really, really good. The best stock launcher of any of the Nexus'. I just find more convenience with ADW and it looks almost exactly the same...configured the right way.
I'm a huge fan of how smooth ICS is, regardless of the launcher. I've not messed around with Honeycomb too much, so going from Gingerbread to ICS is a huge jump for me in terms of appearance and performance.
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Not with the stock UI. It approaches iPhone smooth, but not WP7 smooth. But I am using ADW EX launcher and with that, it is WP7 smooth. I was using ADW on 4.0.2 and it made ICS very usable. But with 4.0.3, the difference is spectacular, to put it modestly.
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Its not because of changes in adw then? Would love to know what they changed to make the difference but glad they did it.
Dave
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Its not because of changes in adw then? Would love to know what they changed to make the difference but glad they did it.
Dave
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It dawns on me that the quality and pleasure I'm experiencing now could be something entirely to do with Tytung's efforts with his custom ROM rather than a reality of the 4.0.3 OEM.
ADW is exactly the same between the two version. I can't see them making any changes from one to the next in such a short period of time. Not saying it's impossible, just saying unlikely. With this custom ROM, I actually updated to 4.0.3 initially rather than do a clean install. Even with an update 4.0.3 was noticeably smoother. Only until I did a clean install did I experience the speed and buttery smoothness of 4.0.3. It is a dramatic difference.
Well,you can even try GoLauncher on ICS and it'll be buttery smooth too,whereas in Gingerbread it's nowhere near the other launchers in terms of smoothness(Unless you own a 1.6GHz Galaxy S II ).Hardware acceleration does good after all.And some under-the-hood improvements in 4.0.3 are what makes it as good.Wait for some proper roms and you'll see(Not that Tytung's rom or any other ICS rom isn't good,but none of them is final,rather something like being in beta phase).
MartyLK said:
It dawns on me that the quality and pleasure I'm experiencing now could be something entirely to do with Tytung's efforts with his custom ROM rather than a reality of the 4.0.3 OEM.
ADW is exactly the same between the two version. I can't see them making any changes from one to the next in such a short period of time. Not saying it's impossible, just saying unlikely. With this custom ROM, I actually updated to 4.0.3 initially rather than do a clean install. Even with an update 4.0.3 was noticeably smoother. Only until I did a clean install did I experience the speed and buttery smoothness of 4.0.3. It is a dramatic difference.
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So maybe tytung somehows trims down ics to remove problem issues?
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i just don't see this point ...
It looks clean and makes less 'fragmentation'. It also has roboto font and face unlock, but not much else
qtwrk said:
i just don't see this point ...
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Faster smoother all around GPU acceleration, smooth browser.
All around better experience than GB
like having a new phone
Have u even tried it?
demo23019 said:
Faster smoother all around GPU acceleration, smooth browser.
All around better experience than GB
like having a new phone
Have u even tried it?
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yes , like MIUI , DIANXIN , CM9 and STOCK , brah brah
smooth ? i'm quite happy with what i have now , browser as well.
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shadowskorch said:
It looks clean and makes less 'fragmentation'. It also has roboto font and face unlock, but not much else
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hmmm , i don't have any sight problem ...so roboto font isn't much good to me
face unlock ...yeah , that google employee had failed face-unlock representation in EXPO ... -___________-!!!
Ics rocks!
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mathkid95 said:
Ics rocks!
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= = , but how ?
How was 2.3 better than 2.2.
If you have an upgrade up for grabs without any concequences, why not take it and try it out?
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It seems better to me in every way except time allowed for devs to find tweeks. A true comparison would be stock to stock.
qtwrk said:
i just don't see this point ...
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1. swipe away notifications
2. more consistent look-and-feel with the fonts and colours
3. much nicer stock gapps
4. a better unlock screen, including the camera unlock and "My name" text option
5. resizable widgets
6. better organization of menus and submenus
7. works on tablets AND phones
8. more intuitive way to add widgets and organize your home screens with folders
9. better multi-tasking with the recent apps screen
10. face unlock
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1. swipe away notifications
2. more consistent look-and-feel with the fonts and colours
3. much nicer stock gapps
4. a better unlock screen, including the camera unlock and "My name" text option
5. resizable widgets
6. better organization of menus and submenus
7. works on tablets AND phones
8. more intuitive way to add widgets and organize your home screens with folders
9. better multi-tasking with the recent apps screen
10. face unlock
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Most of this is available in CM7, ADW Ex, some add ons etc.
Many don't care about face unlock, multitask changes but the honeycomb style gmail widget is nice.
bjrmd said:
Most of this is available in CM7, ADW Ex, some add ons etc.
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Then what's so great about Gingerbread? You can find most of the GB advantages in Froyo custom ROMs. Or most of FROYO custom ROMs in Eclair custom ROMs. This kinda defeats the point of the question, right?
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Many don't care about face unlock, multitask changes
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Hey, they're still fair answers someone will care about them and they're still technically "an advantage"
Not everyone is gonna like it, but I've been running various ICS roms since it came out, and I can't go back to GB. To be honest, when I use a phone with GB now, I immediately think "eww..." in my head. It just feels really ghetto compared to ICS.
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Then what's so great about Gingerbread? You can find most of the GB advantages in Froyo custom ROMs. Or most of FROYO custom ROMs in Eclair custom ROMs. This kinda defeats the point of the question, right?
Oh
Hey, they're still fair answers someone will care about them and they're still technically "an advantage"
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Addons are now optonal instead of mandatory to get a good experience. That's a huge improvement already.
Previous I wouldn't upgrade to other roms cause it took forever to add everything back. Now things just work out of the box. It's kinda like going to a mac from a PC.
You mean spending twice the money for the same hardware?
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You mean spending twice the money for the same hardware?
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My company pays for my laptops so money doesnt matter. Sometimes you pay more than twice the money for less hardware if you really look at it.
I'm just saying that its easier to get up and running with a mac than a pc (and to try and bring it back to the original topic) just like it is easier to get up and running with ics than gb
Disagree with both.
maybe you've never really given both a honest try.
I have given both a honest try. That is irrelevant anyways