ok, let me first get this out of the way... I dont care if this is breaking the rules and has been asked before, i am not willing to spend the rest of my life searching through vast amounts of text on this site to maybe, just maybe, find that someone once before asked what im asking, this is a forum, questions are suposed to be asked here.
Irritated rant after spending hours looking and not finding over.
So simply my question is, is there a definitive guide to, i dont know what were calling it, its not jail breaking, thats for iphones, and its not updating, because its not the proper software, anyway whatever we're calling it, im looking for a definitive guide to upgradating?? the HTC Tattoo to 2.2, (Froyo).
now i know it can be done, ive seen lots of people say they have done it.
Ive found the guides on general dicussion.
But is every HTC android phone the same to upgradate? The guide isnt specific to any phone, just says "android"
Any help or pointing of in the right direction is much appreciated
or could someone tell me if this is any good please.
http://thegadgets.net/trickt-boy/how-to/how-to-run-android-2-2-froyo-on-htc-tattoo//
i ask because im currently lookin at this guide...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=872128
...and they're very different from each other!
Come on, someone answer. There not differcult questions.
Bloody typical mind, I dont think any of these mods sites be it iphone, xbox360, or this are very newbie friendly. in my experience of firmware mods etc ive found your supposed to know everything immediatly and the only people that get help are those who have an idea to start with.
So please, one of the 58 or so next to look at this thread, please leave some answers... or just point me in the right direction, im very capable.
What you're looking to do is root your phone & then install a custom rom that has 2.2 firmware.
There are multiple methods to root, not sure about your model of phone. But try searching about rooting, there are plenty of guides. It's something you need to read up on before you do it or else you'll end up bricking your phone.
After you've looked it over, if you still need some help send me a pm.
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Thanks for your reply, exactly what i was looking for.
Spend hours yesterday reading, reading and more reading about what to do, but with different methodes out there i wanted someone to explain just what i would be trying to do (rooting aparently).
Thanks very much.
It's HTC Tattoo btw.
Some one tell me how to update to the picture attached without loosing my current root
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You have to have a pretty-much rock-stock ROM for this update to work. You could just install attn1's version of the stock ROM with this update already applied, then properly rooted and packaged for installation:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1058042
After installing, the update screen will show that you are up to date.
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Some one tell me how to update to the picture attached without loosing my current root
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Since Gene has graciously answered your question, may I remind you that this is one of the most common questions asked, over and over. Please do a little searching first.
Thanks!
See I don't won't to have to go back to stock or any of thst stuff why can't I just flash it in hboot
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See I don't won't to have to go back to stock or any of thst stuff why can't I just flash it in hboot
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That is how flash attn1 rom. I think you might have misunderstood. He meant that you could go back to stock stock and apply it. Because if your rooted it will fail to install OR. Apply attn1 rom.
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Attn1's ROM is flashed in hboot because it includes a radio. It is the ota update your phone is trying to get, but with root. He also has one in that same thread with sideloading enabled.
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i really dont get why it bothers some people so much, they respond to threads saying use the search button, people ask it alot. U dont have to respond to the post to begin with, alot of people do though, and with the same effort used to say use the search button, u could have just as easily answered the question.
Best part is if u dont want to answer it because you think they were to lazy to search it gets buried pretty quick.
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i really dont get why it bothers some people so much, they respond to threads saying use the search button, people ask it alot. U dont have to respond to the post to begin with, alot of people do though, and with the same effort used to say use the search button, u could have just as easily answered the question.
Best part is if u dont want to answer it because you think they were to lazy to search it gets buried pretty quick.
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its probably because to newer users, its a little intimidating to go thru many posts and threads, and they also know some info could be outdated. Maybe on the site, there should be an official, updated "how to" glossary or wiki.
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i really dont get why it bothers some people so much, they respond to threads saying use the search button, people ask it alot. U dont have to respond to the post to begin with, alot of people do though, and with the same effort used to say use the search button, u could have just as easily answered the question.
Best part is if u dont want to answer it because you think they were to lazy to search it gets buried pretty quick.
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I'll tell you why....
Because the question was already answered for one thing.
It's also forum rules, and I've seen it mentioned by Mods a million times.
Community moderation...I let people know in the hopes of breaking a habit before it starts: posting a new thread for every single question that crosses their mind, and, eventually, expect to be given answers to everything, getting even more reluctant to do the "work" of finding answers and learning about their phones on their own.
Next thing you know, we're up to our necks in duplicate posts. Then, NOBODY will want to answer ANYTHING, because they have to wade through 4 tons of duplicate crap, and it ain't worth it.
How hard is it to Google "inspire OTA update root" ?
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I'll tell you why....
Because the question was already answered for one thing.
It's also forum rules, and I've seen it mentioned by Mods a million times.
Community moderation...I let people know in the hopes of breaking a habit before it starts: posting a new thread for every single question that crosses their mind, and, eventually, expect to be given answers to everything, getting even more reluctant to do the "work" of finding answers and learning about their phones on their own.
Next thing you know, we're up to our necks in duplicate posts. Then, NOBODY will want to answer ANYTHING, because they have to wade through 4 tons of duplicate crap, and it ain't worth it.
How hard is it to Google "inspire OTA update root" ?
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As to the last question: speaking for myself, I am tempted to just ask question, not because I can't effin search, but some of my questions, one has to weed through all manner of material on multiple threads, some pertinent, some not, since February to ascertain "the" answer. This is all well and good and maybe an exercise in disciple, like back in school or something, but maybe some of us just get impatient in an effort to save time. That said, I am fully on board with the forum rules, because da rules are da rules, and this is where one has to come for this sort of stuff :-D.
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As to the last question: speaking for myself, I am tempted to just ask question, not because I can't effin search, but some of my questions, one has to weed through all manner of material on multiple threads, some pertinent, some not, since February to ascertain "the" answer. This is all well and good and maybe an exercise in disciple, like back in school or something, but maybe some of us just get impatient in an effort to save time. That said, I am fully on board with the forum rules, because da rules are da rules, and this is where one has to come for this sort of stuff :-D.
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Oh I agree. Everyone has questions, and everyone has opinions. There are often times wrong/incomplete answers to things, and both yes and no to the same question.
It's not necessarily easy to parse through and distill all of this stuff. But it can be done. I often times run across answers that go both ways, and that can be unsettling, especially if it involves potentially bricking a device if you get it wrong.
It's just a question of analysis, and I concede some people are more comfortable doing it than others. I guess I never expected to be handed all of the answers to basic questions.
I've always preferred searching over posting in asking a question, as it usually always provides the answer *quicker* than waiting for someone to post back an answer to the question.
Not to mention, if it turns out it was a much easier answer to find than first apparent, or that it was one's own oversight responsible for a problem that motivated the question, one can bypass getting antagonized by jerks like me.
I hear ya
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Oh I agree. Everyone has questions, and everyone has opinions. There are often times wrong/incomplete answers to things, and both yes and no to the same question.
It's not necessarily easy to parse through and distill all of this stuff. But it can be done. I often times run across answers that go both ways, and that can be unsettling, especially if it involves potentially bricking a device if you get it wrong.
It's just a question of analysis, and I concede some people are more comfortable doing it than others. I guess I never expected to be handed all of the answers to basic questions.
I've always preferred searching over posting in asking a question, as it usually always provides the answer *quicker* than waiting for someone to post back an answer to the question.
Not to mention, if it turns out it was a much easier answer to find than first apparent, or that it was one's own oversight responsible for a problem that motivated the question, one can bypass getting antagonized by jerks like me.
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Just presenting another side...because I can . One side of me just want's to get things done. Another side thoroughly enjoyed the process of learning the ins and outs of my beloved now rooted device by weeding through a community forum of all things...all good!
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Just presenting another side...because I can . One side of me just want's to get things done. Another side thoroughly enjoyed the process of learning the ins and outs of my beloved now rooted device by weeding through a community forum of all things...all good!
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Again, I agree. It really depends on the urgency of the situation. If your phone is boot-looping, it's understandable want to get the thing running again as quickly as possible.
Thank You
Scott_S said:
Again, I agree. It really depends on the urgency of the situation. If your phone is boot-looping, it's understandable want to get the thing running again as quickly as possible.
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Yes this. Exactly. 10 words.
Scott, why must you pretend to be GOD in these forums which you clearly aren't....if the guy wants to ask, let him ask...the search feature in this forum sucks anyways, so i would of done the same exact thing. don't like reading something that is redundant, then go grab the book War and Peace and entertain yourself. I am sure that by the time you are done with it, all items here would be OUTDATED and you will have no choice but to ask questions yourself, which is where i would answer you back with this:
"i really dont get why it bothers some people so much, they respond to threads saying use the search button, people ask it alot. U dont have to respond to the post to begin with, alot of people do though, and with the same effort used to say use the search button, u could have just as easily answered the question.
Best part is if u dont want to answer it because you think they were to lazy to search it gets buried pretty quick."
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Scott, why must you pretend to be GOD in these forums which you clearly aren't....if the guy wants to ask, let him ask...the search feature in this forum sucks anyways, so i would of done the same exact thing. don't like reading something that is redundant, then go grab the book War and Peace and entertain yourself. I am sure that by the time you are done with it, all items here would be OUTDATED and you will have no choice but to ask questions yourself, which is where i would answer you back with this:
"i really dont get why it bothers some people so much, they respond to threads saying use the search button, people ask it alot. U dont have to respond to the post to begin with, alot of people do though, and with the same effort used to say use the search button, u could have just as easily answered the question.
Best part is if u dont want to answer it because you think they were to lazy to search it gets buried pretty quick."
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I'm not pretending anything. Searching before posting is forum rules, often cited by mods. I happen to feel it's important enough to remind people, and I'm not the only one. It's called community moderation.
No, a lot of stuff does NOT get outdated. Some do, like radio flashing and not needing eng s-off, but others don't, or haven't yet and don't look like they're going to.
For example, rooting remains the same basic process as when it started. One of two methods are available, and likely there won't be any new ground-breaking discoveries, at least for a while. Maybe it will change in the future, but it hasn't yet.
Another example... Until someone makes ATT want to push their otas to rooted devices, the process by which to update one's rooted phone with those OTA updates will remain the same. Etc....
And Google works just fine, better than the built-in search function of many sites.
Saying "I can't search because search sux" is a cop-out, plain and simple.
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...the search feature in this forum sucks anyways...
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Umm, no. At least not on the full site. If you look right above the forum frames (up, up a little more, no down, yeah, there, on the right) you'll see the search you should be using. It searches recursively from wherever you are. Forum home? Searches the whole board. Inspire home? Searches the whole Inspire board. Inspire Dev? Yep, just the dev section. It goes clear down to searching within a thread. Hardly sucky.
I have been rooted for about a month now and have flashed several custom roms but am now back at the stock rooted rom desiring the latest at&t ota update. I read earlier in this thread that because I'm already rooted the update won't install. My question is can I just flash the attn1 rom even though I rooted my device using bubby's root method?
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I have been rooted for about a month now and have flashed several custom roms but am now back at the stock rooted rom desiring the latest at&t ota update. I read earlier in this thread that because I'm already rooted the update won't install. My question is can I just flash the attn1 rom even though I rooted my device using bubby's root method?
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It should work fine. All attn1's ROM needs is s-off. Bubby's give you that.
I'm not positive but I think att1 updated rooted stock rom w/sideloading is in the form of pd98img.zip file which u need to put on on your SD card but not in a folder. Then turn off fastboot in settings, power off your phone, then while holding down the vol down button push your power button. The phone should boot into hboot where it will search for the pd98img for a few seconds then ask you to update. Once it's done you can reboot & delete the file off your SD card cause it's around 300 or so mb. Once your all done with that you also might want to get the matching ril file for the new radio that's in the update which you can flash in cwr.
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I need some help please with updating my rooted AT&T Infuse 4G. I don't know the steps and can't find a start-finish on how to do it here nor youtube. Can I get some assistance please? I've finally dumped my iPhone 4 for Android.
Maybe wait for it to come out first
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Sorry if I sound harsh, but all of the info is easily found in the development section on how to root and install custom roms. For somebody to make a tutorial on the whole process would take more time than you just reading up a bit. Also, things are constantly changing with how things are done in the process, so making a complete tutorial is basically useless in the long run, that's why there aren't any. Also, it's much better for you if you read up on each step of the process, because then you actually know what you're doing, not just blindly following something.
To actually help you out though, look for the "odin back to stock with root and modded 3e" thread, following those directions will get you rooted. After that, follow the instructions in the op of any rom thread, and it will tell you how to install that specific rom.
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Pretty much to figure out what's out there, take the time to read through the dev section. But do NOT post there unless you are ABSOLUTELY sure what you are posting is of use to a developer (e.g. a bug report with complete dmesg or logcat as appropriate, or answering a specific data request from a developer.) People who post stupid questions in the Dev forums tend to get torn a new one. Random questions are far more forgivable here in Q&A.
Seriously - just take some time to read threads without doing anything with your phone, simply to learn and "get a feel" for how things work.
As to 2.3.5 - Sorry, the only 2.3.5 available is our partial Cyanogenmod port. It has a number of things broken about it, so it is NOT ready for general use, definitely not someone who posts "how do I install 2.3.5" here.
Rogers Gingerbread (the most mature Gingerbread release for our phones at the moment) is 2.3.3. Some of the ROMs ported with Hellraiser are 2.3.4. These are fairly mature, but all have their issues.
For example, if you want HSDPA+ speeds or HDMI output you're going to have to stick with 2.2.x (e.g. Froyo).
Thx guys. Ive tried looking for things to read and even read wiki in rooting, roms, kernels, cwm, etc.. The list goes on... I am getting nothing for a starter (noob) to the scene of Android.
I am pretty leet when it comes to iphone jailbreak community because ive been in that scene since the iphone launched back in 07'. I have an understanding of bootloaders, basebands and things. Oh, and no I didnt use noob jailbreaking tools.
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what does it mean to turn radio on and off and ENG on off..what is the point of that im just about to get my inspire and i understand rooting and such but ill be wanting to add a custom rom and oc the phone i am getting... im just curious of what you guys think the best rom/kernel would be for this phone? i had revolver and rev on my tablet i had before and i wish the phones would be easy as the tablet i mean with the tablet i could install to the flashcard and then go into cwm but i just cant seem to find the exact answers im looking for... so please could you explain these things to me like what that all means im sorry i keep switching between cellphones bc i cant seem to find one that keeps my attention xD
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what does it mean to turn radio on and off and ENG on off..what is the point of that im just about to get my inspire and i understand rooting and such but ill be wanting to add a custom rom and oc the phone i am getting... im just curious of what you guys think the best rom/kernel would be for this phone? i had revolver and rev on my tablet i had before and i wish the phones would be easy as the tablet i mean with the tablet i could install to the flashcard and then go into cwm but i just cant seem to find the exact answers im looking for... so please could you explain these things to me like what that all means im sorry i keep switching between cellphones bc i cant seem to find one that keeps my attention xD
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Really man? Reading is fundamental. Please do your research before asking a question. While the process may seem unbelievably easy, which it is provided you read everything and research, rooting and flashing roms,radios,kernels should not be done lightly. Did I mentioned read and search? yeah do that. Everything you're asking has been covered more then 1,000 times.
If you haven't already rooted, see the hack kit thread in the dev section. Read everything, the OP and the effen manual. Once you do that, do it again and then again for comprehension. After you've rooted, the process in flashing a new rom is not complicated at all. Again, these are all things you can find by searching and educating yourself. If you ever ask what the best rom/kernel is again, I'll blow up your house. I'm just kidding but that's a dead horse that people continue to kick over and over and over and over and over again. Don't believe me and want to find the answer for yourself why I say that, search best rom and see the response. You'll thank me later.
i have indeed rooted before and i do know about the fancy lingo but i just wanted to see what others were using and their opinion i have read it but i guess ill go read it again... im on my phone currently and trying to enter in the search phone the browser wont allow me to click enter :/ i have problems with my xperia play thats why im getting the htc hopefully it wont irritate me as bad lol but thanks again
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i have indeed rooted before and i do know about the fancy lingo but i just wanted to see what others were using and their opinion i have read it but i guess ill go read it again... im on my phone currently and trying to enter in the search phone the browser wont allow me to click enter :/ i have problems with my xperia play thats why im getting the htc hopefully it wont irritate me as bad lol but thanks again
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I'll give you the "best rom" speech lol. There is no best rom. All roms will have bugs. What is best for me, is not best for you. It all depends on what you want out of the rom. There are some things some roms have while others don't and the more you test out the more you'll know what you can live without and what you can't. So the best thing to do is, try them all out and see what you like. My recommendation is Bindroid for sense, Absolution for AOSP.
Believe me, reading is key and you clearly get that. I just don't want to see you make a mistake that could have been easily prevented ya know! If you want my personal take on why I recommend the above roms, PM and I'll share.
Well, after looking through the stickies, i have a question. Is there a glossary of terms for the inspire? I'm trying to learn about procedures and processes on this device but most of its Greek to me. I know rooting and flashing, basic stuff. But S off/on, eng off/on, hboot,etc. I currently use a Captivate and those are terms I'm not familiar with.
thats pretty much what i was asking xD
Ok, Google answered my questions. And i have read the effin manual. Probably read it 2 or 3 more times. Just in case.
Friends that are asking about radio and rooting just check out the inspire or w.e phone your looking to get and read about the radios and rils to see what they do and most if not all roms talks about the radio ril
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Hello, I have a htc inspire and I have rooted it a few months back. I do not have a lot of time to spend here. wish I did but I don't. I have been looking around trying to find how too guides to do the basic stuff. Backing up rom, flashing custom rom to phone. I understand the flashing part. I am looking to find out how to back up my current rom. it is a stock rom. would love to start trying out custom roms on my phone. I don't care if I brick my phone, just do not want to brick it because I didn't know how to do basic stuff. I will keep looking, for the guides on soft ware. I have root explorer astro and other software to back up the roms but not knowing how to use them sucks. if someone could point me in the right direction would be great. thanks again.
can the mod please move this to the proper fourms sorry did not know not to post a question in this fourms. thanks.
You should take time to read and google the information...no one will do your homework for you. If you brick your phone nobody will care but you, so take the time you have and go step by step...
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I have to agree with glevitan and the one thing I will say is, Google is your friend...
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Saying "I don't have a lot of time to spend on here" and asking others to do the work for you is the last thing you want to do on this site. Most of the people on here are more than willing to help if you at least give the impression of trying to help yourself first.
Yea, it's kind of like "i would love to help you with your needs, but this is a dev site and i dont really have the time to bother with it." Kind of has a different meaning when said back to you doesnt it?
I agree with everyone here, I was able to find everything I needed on Google and using that information I found, was able to root my phone and flash a custom ROM in less than a half an hour. Finding the information for yourself is the best and only way to learn. Read, read and read some more.
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As stated, if you are gonna run a custom rom then you will need to find the time to do the research and learn what you are doing.
Google is a great thing, also my sig contains a search plugin for Firefox or IE for XDA. This helps alot.
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