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Tiered data coming 6/26...?

My VZW source told me about a new Point-of-Sale system being implemented for corporate Verizon stores (a nationwide rollout as far as I know, but I could be wrong on that assumption). Regardless, this new POS system goes live June 26th. In the online training for the new POS system, Verizon Employees saw some mention given to new calling plans + tiered data implementation coming at the same time as the new POS system rollout.
What I was told is this: calling plans are being renamed, probably changed (in terms of text/voice minute allowance, price, inclusion [or not] of data, etc.) FOR SURE the plans are being renamed, and it's not a far stretch of the imagination to think that this is the perfect time for VZW to roll out new data plans. The reason for that thought is the fact that VZW has been talking about a summer debut for tiered data plans for a while now. Well, summer is here... so it's about time for this to happen.
No specific details have been given at this time, likely no one will know much until the day before or day of the announcement. But at least we have a time frame for this. If there is going to be an end of unlimited data, I predict it will come with the roll out of new calling plans.
Also, this makes sense in light of the July 6th extended tethering promotion. In the event someone wants to keep tethering after July 6th on their Thunderbolt, it will require a data plan change (adding a paid monthly tethering plan). This is one way for Verizon to force people into the new calling plans. If they are capping data or upping prices for LTE/4G devices (or across the board for all devices - who knows?), this is a great way for Verizon to steal people away from their unlimited data plans. You want tethering? OK. Change your plan to one of our "new" plans with tiered (capped) data and you can have tethering!
I think this "free" tethering was a cold, money grubbing calculation from the beginning. I digress...
Anyway, just passing along what I heard today. Anyone else hear anything similar to this today? I could have some details wrong, and though this is clearly just speculation, I don't want to obfuscate the truth if someone has it on good authority something here isn't true or I have some of the details a little wrong.
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Here's the reason free tethering was extended:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20...-4g-tethering/
As for tiered data, they can pry my unlimited 4G from my cold, lifeless hands. Or I'm going to Sprint

That link is broken for me. Was the story about the issues with the Charge's hotspot being unreliable? I know the previous extension was supposedly because of the 24 hour EHRPD network outage that affected so many Thunderbolt users.
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That link is broken for me. Was the story about the issues with the Charge's hotspot being unreliable? I know the previous extension was supposedly because of the 24 hour EHRPD network outage that affected so many Thunderbolt users.
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Sorry, it worked for me earlier today I just assumed it still worked..
It was something about how the Free Press filed a complaint with the FCC saying that Verizon shouldn't be allowed to tell us how to use our data, etc and that the conditions with which the 700 mhz spectrum was bought somewhat prevent Verizon from charging for it.
And no, but the Charge did receive an update a few days ago fixing their hotspot.

Ah, I forgot about the free press filing. Good to know the Charge was updated, too.
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joshnichols189 said:
Here's the reason free tethering was extended:
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As for tiered data, they can pry my unlimited 4G from my cold, lifeless hands. Or I'm going to Sprint
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Here's a working link. Forum cut yours off...
news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20069580-264/complaint-to-fcc-verizon-mustnt-bar-4g-tethering
I tried to post as a link, but I'm such a newb that it is only allowed after my 8th post

JFMFT said:
My VZW source told me about a new Point-of-Sale system being implemented for corporate Verizon stores (a nationwide rollout as far as I know, but I could be wrong on that assumption). Regardless, this new POS system goes live June 26th. In the online training for the new POS system, Verizon Employees saw some mention given to new calling plans + tiered data implementation coming at the same time as the new POS system rollout.
What I was told is this: calling plans are being renamed, probably changed (in terms of text/voice minute allowance, price, inclusion [or not] of data, etc.) FOR SURE the plans are being renamed, and it's not a far stretch of the imagination to think that this is the perfect time for VZW to roll out new data plans. The reason for that thought is the fact that VZW has been talking about a summer debut for tiered data plans for a while now. Well, summer is here... so it's about time for this to happen.
No specific details have been given at this time, likely no one will know much until the day before or day of the announcement. But at least we have a time frame for this. If there is going to be an end of unlimited data, I predict it will come with the roll out of new calling plans.
Also, this makes sense in light of the July 6th extended tethering promotion. In the event someone wants to keep tethering after July 6th on their Thunderbolt, it will require a data plan change (adding a paid monthly tethering plan). This is one way for Verizon to force people into the new calling plans. If they are capping data or upping prices for LTE/4G devices (or across the board for all devices - who knows?), this is a great way for Verizon to steal people away from their unlimited data plans. You want tethering? OK. Change your plan to one of our "new" plans with tiered (capped) data and you can have tethering!
I think this "free" tethering was a cold, money grubbing calculation from the beginning. I digress...
Anyway, just passing along what I heard today. Anyone else hear anything similar to this today? I could have some details wrong, and though this is clearly just speculation, I don't want to obfuscate the truth if someone has it on good authority something here isn't true or I have some of the details a little wrong.
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For a vast majority of users have a tiered plan with bucket data (tethering included) would actually be a good thing. For alot of users who frequent this, and other, forums it would not. If the prices are not totally outrageous, ie $20/GB, I see no problem with VZW implimenting a tiered system that included tethering. Its for users like many of us on XDA that it will be a problem, those who regularly go over 2, 3, 4, 5 etc GB a month by constantly flashing, downloading and redownloading apps and the power tetherers (those who play Xbox etc while tethered). I know people who barely hit 500 megs a month on their data plans, so something along the lines of 1GB for a reasonable price would be perfect for them.

abn75 said:
Its for users like many of us on XDA that it will be a problem, those who regularly go over 2, 3, 4, 5 etc GB a month by constantly flashing, downloading and redownloading apps and the power tetherers (those who play Xbox etc while tethered). I know people who barely hit 500 megs a month on their data plans, so something along the lines of 1GB for a reasonable price would be perfect for them.
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Over 12 days of this cycle, my wife hit 0.04 GB... I just hit 11.62 GB (I'm not joking). Tiered would be perfect for her if it's cheaper than the current unlimited plan... for me, I'm praying they grandfather us in!!

tbns said:
Over 12 days of this cycle, my wife hit 0.04 GB... I just hit 11.62 GB (I'm not joking). Tiered would be perfect for her if it's cheaper than the current unlimited plan... for me, I'm praying they grandfather us in!!
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They have to or let you out of your contract.
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tbns said:
Over 12 days of this cycle, my wife hit 0.04 GB... I just hit 11.62 GB (I'm not joking). Tiered would be perfect for her if it's cheaper than the current unlimited plan... for me, I'm praying they grandfather us in!!
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My wife was hitting .17 gb with her old blackberry and now uses about 3 gb with my old Droid X, I used 6-8 on the X and 8-10 on the Thunderbolt on average, and have went up to 16 gb in one month on the X. I have never tethered. Maybe the shared data will even out prices if they don't grandfather us in (after the T-bolt)

I really think that until they announce plans/prices for the tiered system people are just over reacting to it. Who knows, it might actually be a good thing for them to roll it out. Yeah yeah yeah i know "but we haz unlimited" thats well and good. but if your like me and have more than one smart phone line with it, and one of those lines using 200 megs a month...well its not worth it to have unlimited. I would rather have a small tiered plan for that, or hell even a family data plan with bucket data alotment. But we all know how people are, they have to have their unlimited data plan no matter what, even if they are only using 100 megs.

There is already a $15 plan, and its been around for awhile, for all the people using very little data

JFMFT said:
I think this "free" tethering was a cold, money grubbing calculation from the beginning.
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Same business scheme as crack dealers.
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abn75 said:
If your like me and have more than one smart phone line with it, and one of those lines using 200 megs a month...well its not worth it to have unlimited. I would rather have a small tiered plan for that, or hell even a family data plan with bucket data alotment. But we all know how people are, they have to have their unlimited data plan no matter what, even if they are only using 100 megs.
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But as 4G extends to more markets, that will change. Ppl will starting downloading/streaming more media & 100-200 megs/month will become a drop in the bucket.
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Unlimited data is already gone for new subs. Tiered data is already in place. Go to the VZ website, it lists all tiers.

Mercutio5 said:
Unlimited data is already gone for new subs. Tiered data is already in place. Go to the VZ website, it lists all tiers.
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you looked at the wrong place. those "tiered" plans are for mobile broadband, ie tablets, mifi and such. for smartphones its still showing unlimited

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Unlimited data is already gone for new subs. Tiered data is already in place. Go to the VZ website, it lists all tiers.
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Huh? Where is that link? I just checked and it still shows "unlimited data" for 4G phones at the $29.99 price

You're all correct.

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My wife was hitting .17 gb with her old blackberry and now uses about 3 gb with my old Droid X, I used 6-8 on the X and 8-10 on the Thunderbolt on average, and have went up to 16 gb in one month on the X. I have never tethered. Maybe the shared data will even out prices if they don't grandfather us in (after the T-bolt)
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I was around 5 GB last month on the Tbolt until Netflix happened. I have done very little tethering this month and my data usage is at 15GB and I still have 4 days left in my billing cycle.

Verizon please force tiered data plans on us I would love a free switch to sprint =P
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AT&T Says it will Move Unlimited Data Customers Who are Tethering to a Tiered Plan

AT&T Says it will Move Unlimited Data Customers Who are Tethering to a Tiered Plan
http://androidcommunity.com/att-say...-who-are-tethering-to-a-tiered-plan-20110804/
AT&T has said that starting as soon as August 11th, it will start moving those customers whom they’ve contacted about tethering without a specific tethering plan on to one. Those customers in question will be moved onto AT&T’s Data Pro plus Tethering, giving them 4 GB of data to use for $45 a month.
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You mean they will actually enforce their terms of service all users agreed to?
Shocking. You don't like it, don't agree to it. Simple.
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Hold your horses there hotrod and lose the holier than thou facade, I could care less since I don't tether, I just despise the fact that they rape you for the use of data transferring. Data is data is data no matter how you cut it.
I personally believe the carriers should be taken to the cleaners over this issue on principle alone.
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Tx Redneck said:
Hold your horses there hotrod and lose the holier than thou facade, I could care less since I don't tether, I just despise the fact that they rape you for the use of data transferring. Data is data is data no matter how you cut it.
I personally believe the carriers should be taken to the cleaners over this issue on principle alone.
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Whoah Nellie, that wasn't directed at you at all. My fault. It was directed at those who are sure to complain. I'm with you 100% on this, but I did sign an agreement so i can't complain about it.
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As i've said before in a thread somewhere...I definetly use wifi tether....when i absolutely need it. IE, i'm out of town and not around a wifi hotspot. I do not use it to download, like some others do. I've been using wifi hotspot since February, and not once have i been contacted by AT&T about "illegally" using the hotspot. The difference is...when you are doing something youre not supposed to, common sense says to stay low key and keep a low profile to stay under the radar. This decreases your chances of getting caught. So as far as I am concerned, for those who abuse this feature deserve to get caught and get sent to a tiered plan.

Corporate Greed

I also tether lightly occasionally and have not been contacted ...
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ThEiiNoCeNT said:
I also tether lightly occasionally and have not been contacted ...
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Same here...

Is this the same threat they were spouting about three months ago, when those mass emails went out?

i still have my grandfathered unlimited data plan, and honestly i will fight to keep it. i dont tether. but when the highest plan is $25 for what 2gb i think, and i pay 30 for unlimited i will keep it thank you. but dont really see a reason to tether anyway... where arent you nowadays that doesnt have a free wifi hotspot? hell the grocery store has one here because there is a starbucks inside...

Data is data is data is not correct. Data cost money no matter how u want to look at it. Yes u are paying for a plan with a certain amount of data, lets say 2gb. First they are a company for profit not a non profit company, Most people dont use all there data, not even close to it, and they factor this in before pricing it. Data isnt cheap, while u feel like your paying for 2gb of data, that u should beable to use it how u want, doesnt mean you can tether and increase the amount of data u use.
if everyone who has a 2gb plan for 25 dollars uses 90% of there data or more every month, u would be paying alot more than 25 dollars for internet.
Do u really think when they created unlimited plans they also can give unlimited amounts of data away and it doesnt cost them any extra? while u feel you are being cheated, the ones actually being cheated are the ones not tethering paying high prices for data.
What you are saying is the same thing as saying a bank can give everyone all there money back, or that a insurance company can afford to pay claims for every person that has insurance, its not feasable. If u truely want it that way they would probaly more than double the current price for data if everyone used there max but they count on alot not using it so there cost is down and so is yours.

A couple of things-first off I too have unlimited data and if they decide to alter my plan in any way I will leave and not look back. As far as unlimited data goes, I guess I don't know what it means. If I pay for unlimited I expect to have unlimated why does it matter how I use it. Is there a differnece from downloading something on my phone vs my pc, if not than who cares.
When I stopped at att today the chick was viewinf my account and noticed I don't use that much data on my 3 lines, she was begging me to switch to a 2gb plan, I laughed in her face. Side note- att has no idea of any attain coming.
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@jc,
I read an article a few weeks back that the average cost for an ISP to support 1GB of network traffic is $0.10. Let's say it's double that for a wireless provider even though it's all 1's and 0's, that would mean on average what we pay $25 per month for 2GB of traffic generation only cost the $0.40 to serve.
I agree that they're in it to make money and don't fault them for it, but their profit margin is GROSSLY disproportionate to the Co's most folk like to piss and moan about(Exxon Mobile..).
Tx

http://gigaom.com/broadband/mobile-data-costs-to-jump-7x-for-operators-to-370b-by-2016/
its not as cheap as u think.mobile data is alot more expensive than cable internet or dsl
Btw all major isp's have caps on there unlimited plans, mine is 450gb a month, comcast i think is 250gb. There was also a story recently of a guy that got suspended by cable isp for a few months after exceeding cap, and after he exceeded cap for a second time was suspended for 1 year.
It is your right to switch to a different mobile carrier, but fact is they all have caps. and with att buying tmobile who is left? not many choices.

I use tethering when I really need some Internet in the middle of nowhere where there is no free wifi or free with aircrackng. Att has never said anything because I use less than 400mb of data per month with occasional 1 to 3 gb spikes if I'm tethering or I look down and notice I have ridiculous reception and run a ****load of 200mb tests from testmy.net
If they do say anything about my infrequent tethering resulting in the loss of my unlimited I think I will give testmy.net money so I can have it run the huge test repeatedly for a month.
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I posted the same info in the other similiar thead. For those that don't know it or never read it, there was a 5GB fair use clause for your unlimited data plan. So that might be the magical number to watch.

Ok guys I am gonna close this up. On a side note if you look at the TOS everyone agreed to when then signed the contract it states that as long as ATT sends you an email or a text to notify you, they can change your account to the proper plans.
But no one will know for sure till it hits. Could be they are gonna bring this policy over from tmobile with the merger but till then no one knows for sure.
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[Q] AT&T 2g Data-cap work-around? ? ?

Is there ANY way around the 2g data-cap?
i cant afford to upgrade at all, and would really love to use my phone at the end of the month...
i hit my limit about 4 days ago and have till the 28th when my plan rolls over.. this is freaking driving me nuts having to wait to be home or somewhere with WiFi to use my interent or check my various news sources...
I use my wifi when i can, but i stream pandora at work, and it chews up data pretty fiercely! Also get on YouTube alot and run the radar on AccuWeather...
When im at home or any friends' houses, i use wifi... but its not available in the warehouse i work at.
Im curious if there is a way i can use more data, or regain my UNLIMITED data i had with my milestone, but not pay for an upgrade. I can blow through 2g like a fat kid at a buffet. I averaged 5-6g per month with my 'stone.
There has to be a way around this... someone help me.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1008698

Wait for Onavo
If you can't follow the method outlined above then you may want to wait for Onavo to release their Android client.
Visit the Onavo website for more details--it's on their blog. It should be here by the end of the month.

I got my unlimited data like that. It works.

Yup..I have several friends across the forums that have done it. I can't seem to find an iphone 2g anywhere tho lol.
going to send my sim off to a dude next week so he can do it for me.
untill then I just pay for what I use. pretty sure I just hit another gb today..yay..$10 more

I have 2 iPhones for rent.
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With ATT changing their plans around, does it still work? The data plans even changed as of yesterday.
(I got in on the $10 for 1000 msg right before it changed.)

So, I want to do this, but I have a question.
If I do it, and I get unlimited data, do I lose my Unlimited texts with unlimited mobile to mobile? Because if I do, I won't do it since that's how we save money on our phone bill by having "umlimited" minutes thanks to that plan.
I ask this because the Unlimited Data plan apparently adds the unlimited texting plan, removing the one I have right now, if I do it.

fml... seems like i cant do it, cause I'm not the master account holder on my family plan. I know if it gets changed or altered without her say-so, she would bust my balls.
FAWK!
...guess ill keep looking.

apallohadas said:
With ATT changing their plans around, does it still work? The data plans even changed as of yesterday.
(I got in on the $10 for 1000 msg right before it changed.)
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I believe the "unlimited loophole" was closed a number of months ago. At least according to MacRumors.Com forums. I did it back in January (didn't even need an original iPhone just a dumbphone) with my iPhone 4 and an old Moto Krazr but it seems it no longer works.

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I believe the "unlimited loophole" was closed a number of months ago. At least according to MacRumors.Com forums. I did it back in January (didn't even need an original iPhone just a dumbphone) with my iPhone 4 and an old Moto Krazr but it seems it no longer works.
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I just used a iphone 2g and switched 2 lines over and they showed on the account as iphone unlimitted within minutes of registering. Getting the rest of the story done is yet to come

MisterEdF said:
I believe the "unlimited loophole" was closed a number of months ago. At least according to MacRumors.Com forums. I did it back in January (didn't even need an original iPhone just a dumbphone) with my iPhone 4 and an old Moto Krazr but it seems it no longer works.
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had a friend do it just last week to both his phones
so how much does an iphone 2g rent for these days lol

You work so what's another 10 bucks a month for an extra gb?

Longcat14 said:
So, I want to do this, but I have a question.
If I do it, and I get unlimited data, do I lose my Unlimited texts with unlimited mobile to mobile? Because if I do, I won't do it since that's how we save money on our phone bill by having "umlimited" minutes thanks to that plan.
I ask this because the Unlimited Data plan apparently adds the unlimited texting plan, removing the one I have right now, if I do it.
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no you dont all it changes is your data plan. PLEASE SEARCH

What if I have a dumb phone? Can I just take that in?

Nope, it has to be a smartphone unlimited data. The plan for the 2G iPhone was unlimited data with a bundled text, hence the $20 plan that everyone talks about. The AT&T billing system is set up to allow the unlimited smartphone data plans to transfer between phones, so this iPhone gateway allied you to get any of the smartphone plans. Then once you have it, your grandfathered in.
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I had an unlimited $10 a month plan from my dumb phone days. I was using it on my captivate for over a year until I updated to the Infuse due to the captivate dying. They got rid of my $10 unlimited and placed me on the $25 a month 2 GB plan :-\. I was just wondering if there is anyway anyone has switched back.

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You work so what's another 10 bucks a month for an extra gb?
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like i stated, i cant afford the extra 10 bucks... works are getting cut left and right at work, so i have to pinch my dollars where i can.
so if i do this, is there any way it can eff up the phone or sim?

Ph0z3 said:
fml... seems like i cant do it, cause I'm not the master account holder on my family plan. I know if it gets changed or altered without her say-so, she would bust my balls.
FAWK!
...guess ill keep looking.
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Lol my dad is I changed it like a boss
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I bought an iPhone 2G on ebay but it was missing parts and had to return it.
Still looking on eBay.
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Post your unlimited data usage thus far!

I've had this phone less than 2 weeks, grandfathered into vzw unlimited data. Needless to say I think vzw is going to hate me...

m52 power! said:
I've had this phone less than 2 weeks, grandfathered into vzw unlimited data. Needless to say I think vzw is going to hate me...
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I'm on virgin in canada and last month i used 42gb on my unlimited plan...

no fair i was on t-mobiles $20/month plan with 10gb/month and they 'changed' the plan without notice. so now i'm stuck with 5gb...

I'm only at about 1g use right now, work and home wifi (poor signal area) has been keeping my mobile data use down since I got this phone. I'll probably use about 3gigs next month though. Btw, I can see this thread creating some tension with those who don't have unlimited.
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Lieu10ant said:
no fair i was on t-mobiles $20/month plan with 10gb/month and they 'changed' the plan without notice. so now i'm stuck with 5gb...
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They did the same here. I called them up and they switched me back no problem.

And the purpose of the thread is to.......??????
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Purpose of this thread....Help show why Verizon did away with unlimited data?

No wonder why they are eliminating unlimited, what the heck do you do on your phone to use 28Gb? (tethering i assume)

haha nice. last semester in college, my wired connection wasn't working so i had to 'illegally' tether my atrixs' hspa+ for a week. used about 15gb in a week to watch live streams of the us open. thank god for unlimited data

with the extra ram this phone makes actual real life data speeds sooooo much faster than my other lte phones could do. I'm at 39 gigs so far with billing cycle ending the 29th. And that's without even having the gs3 the whole time, wonder what ill get to next month? Btw no tethering here, I just really like watching HD video
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Not too bad methinks..

I have to laugh at all the people who say a few of us who use high amounts of data is why a carrier will remove unlimited data for everyone. So they feel bitter at us for ruining it for everyone else and would rather blame us than their service provider, since its easier.
Oh please, don't you think these carriers would have just throttled or kicked off us few users, instead of forcing tiered plans on all their customers? Its all because of further maximizing profit, not because of us.

Doesn't bother me at all, I still have unlimited data just can't see how people are able to use that much data on a phone in a month.
Must have to have the phone plugged in all the time.
Most I have ever been able to do is 13 GB. I really had to try for that though.

Since July 9th.:
554 MB on Verizon
Since June 24th:
5.58 GB over wi-fi

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with the extra ram this phone makes actual real life data speeds sooooo much faster than my other lte phones could do. I'm at 39 gigs so far with billing cycle ending the 29th. And that's without even having the gs3 the whole time, wonder what ill get to next month? Btw no tethering here, I just really like watching HD video
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Hey, you don't happen to live around me do you? I keep getting a busy signal trying to access the data network..

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Hey, you don't happen to live around me do you? I keep getting a busy signal trying to access the data network..
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lol yes i believe i do. luckily i elected to buy the version of the galaxy s 3 that gets preference over others on the data network so sorry i guess everyone will have to wait for me to finish my download before its their turn. best decision i ever made, and to think i actually almost bought the gs3 that you have that gives the busy signal when others are using the network. man im glad i dodged that bullet haha
all sarcasm aside, has anyone ever actually had a problem with using verizons network that can be attributed to data hogs? this isnt 2007 and im not in att using an iphone. big deal, i use a lot of data that i pay for so what. any other user on verizon canuse the exact same amoutn of data as i choose to use bc verizon doesnt throttle the 4g speeds, youll just have to pay more than my price for it. dont hate those of us lucky enough to use all the data we want without paying any overage unless you also go around hating every verizon employee for getting a company discount on the same sevice you pay for. also, those of us on verizon who no longer have the unlimited data plan have access to a discount on upgrades that the unlimited users dont have the smae access to but we sure dont go around flaming others for only having to pay $199 for our $599 phones. every thing is a trade off
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Ignore the disabled data. That was coming from my Samsung Galaxy S II. The one not discontinued is from July 5th till now.
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Yay for forced data limits/throttle in the future. Vzw doesn't guarantee any "grandfathering". It says right in the contract they can change terms on you and it gives you a free out to go to other carriers. The whole –look at what I can do is quite childish. Whatever.
Heck I use 30gb at home on Cox between two computers and a ps3 and pay for 50gb
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A guy over on the Rezound forums hit 1TB. I'm sitting at about 9GB this month.
And for the people bleating about this being why they did away with unlimited data--no. Just shut up. They did it out of pure greed. LTE is cheap, and for every person using 30gb there's 10 people using 500mb. Verizon might be losing money on some customers, but in the aggregate, they were still making money hand over fist, even with unlimited data. But they can make more with shared/tiered. Guess which they went with?

I'm normally around wifi except when I go workout so I rarely break 2gb. Even so I have no problems with data hogs. I've worked a number of years at an isp and I can tell you data hogs are not the problem unless if the network engineers are total idiots. A properly managed network will prevent heavy users from bogging down the network during peak usage.
But many of you guys buy right into the carrier's manufactured bandwidth crisis so they can justify charging $15 per gb.
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Att unlimited data

Just a heads up for everyone who has unlimited data, a good freind of mine that works for att told me today that att is gonna get rid of everyones unlimited data within the next few months and put them on a data plan. She told me that there keeping it quiet so after they change everybodies plan itll be too late to go back to unlimited. Just a heads up for the people who havent heard about it since I havent seen anything about if myself
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Here I come T-Mobile.

Who wants to be on the unlimited throttle plan anyways. I came off that throttle crap years ago.
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they cant remove it without consent.

Tinag379 said:
they cant remove it without consent.
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You already gave them consent in the contract. You'd know this if you read the contract.
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toxicpaulution said:
You already gave them consent in the contract. You'd know this if you read the contract.
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Yes. KIND OF. If "THEY" decide to change your plan from the unlimited data plan they are voiding your contract. So "IF" this is the case buy as many NEW phones as you have unlimited Data plans on asap. Then when "THEY" change your contract then you are free and clear of your commitment. Read the print.
So in my case I too will be saying BYE BYE ATT and Hello TMobile. I am just waiting for the chance to leave them over bs like this over the years. I was FORCED onto a Unlimited Data Plan with my first smartphone (really a dumb phone by today's standards). The ONLY reason I have stayed with them is call quality and data has been pretty good in my area. But now T-Mobile data and call quality in my area is just as good if not better. So eventually this will be my route.
Now IF they do not do this change I will NOT be buying the S5 from them anyways with locked bootloaders. So I was gonna have to buy either international or T-Mobile S5 anyways and then possibly stay with ATT until my contract runs out for all my lines. Which is about a year or less away anyways.
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RockRatt said:
Yes. KIND OF. If "THEY" decide to change your plan from the unlimited data plan they are voiding your contract. So "IF" this is the case buy as many NEW phones as you have unlimited Data plans on asap. Then when "THEY" change your contract then you are free and clear of your commitment. Read the print.
So in my case I too will be saying BYE BYE ATT and Hello TMobile. I am just waiting for the chance to leave them over bs like this over the years. I was FORCED onto a Unlimited Data Plan with my first smartphone (really a dumb phone by today's standards). The ONLY reason I have stayed with them is call quality and data has been pretty good in my area. But now T-Mobile data and call quality in my area is just as good if not better. So eventually this will be my route.
Now IF they do not do this change I will NOT be buying the S5 from them anyways with locked bootloaders. So I was gonna have to buy either international or T-Mobile S5 anyways and then possibly stay with ATT until my contract runs out for all my lines. Which is about a year or less away anyways.
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not if within the contract it says they can chagne your plan to whatever whenever they feel like it.

i just reviewed my contract. nothing in it states they can change anything at any time.

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not if within the contract it says they can chagne your plan to whatever whenever they feel like it.
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If that was the case they would have forced us all of it years ago when the decided to start throttling you as "in the top 5% of data users". They were trying VERY HARD to get us off of unlimited data. I have been through two phones since they implemented this. With the S2 and huspa+ plan you are throttled at 3Gb, on my S3 with LTE I am throttled at 5Gb, and same on the S4. So IF they were gonna attempt something like this they would have already.
Also if they want to keep losing customers to T-Mobile then go at it. I am not sure if you have seen all the commercials, but once Tmobile makes some cool changes to their service ATT/VERIZON didn't change anything. But as T-Mobile keeps chipping away at ATT/VERIZON customer base then these two companies are starting to play catch up and make some changes. Like T-Mobile being able to upgrade when you want, now ATT and Verizon have their own crappy versions of this. T-Mobile has unlimited data so ATT/Verizon are trying to fool people with unlimited text and call and raise the download limits with some of their newer plans. But they keep refusing to just five in and make a unlimited data plan, seems like out of spite at times. Because they cannot get rid of enough grandfathered Unlimited data plan users.
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If that was the case they would have forced us all of it years ago when the decided to start throttling you as "in the top 5% of data users". They were trying VERY HARD to get us off of unlimited data. I have been through two phones since they implemented this. With the S2 and huspa+ plan you are throttled at 3Gb, on my S3 with LTE I am throttled at 5Gb, and same on the S4. So IF they were gonna attempt something like this they would have already.
Also if they want to keep losing customers to T-Mobile then go at it. I am not sure if you have seen all the commercials, but once Tmobile makes some cool changes to their service ATT/VERIZON didn't change anything. But as T-Mobile keeps chipping away at ATT/VERIZON customer base then these two companies are starting to play catch up and make some changes. Like T-Mobile being able to upgrade when you want, now ATT and Verizon have their own crappy versions of this. T-Mobile has unlimited data so ATT/Verizon are trying to fool people with unlimited text and call and raise the download limits with some of their newer plans. But they keep refusing to just five in and make a unlimited data plan, seems like out of spite at times. Because they cannot get rid of enough grandfathered Unlimited data plan users.
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People abusing "unlimited" by using exceptional amounts of data tethering is the reason the true "unlimited" plans went away and will not come back to the major carriers. Sure, there are people that use a lot of data on their phone alone and there are people that tether some, but not all of the times. They are actually a small part of the overall users. A little tethering from time to time or a month of high data use due to watching the play-offs on the phone is not an issue The problem is the people that tether all of the time using their phones as their main internet connection. Mobile data was not meant for this. Basically, a few people keep finding ways to screw the system so no one else can benefit from it.
Of course, the major carriers should be providing plans at a better price and, for now, that seems to be happening because of T-Mobile's changes. However, the unlimited demise is definitely the fault of the abusers.

@scott14719 I do know what you are saying and do believe this to be the case as well.
But as technology on these phones grow so will the demand for more data. With streaming being more and more capable (and i am not just talking about netflix, youtube, and such) then the providers need to upgrade their data networks to accommodate for the future. T-Mobile seems to be doing just that as of right now. So I am happy that T-Mobile is changing things and forcing the other networks to change a bit. I hope they keep pushing the issue.
I am totally cool with paying full price for unsubsidized phones and less for better/faster data.
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I dropped my unlimited for the new 10 GB shared plan. On three phones I will get more data than I have ever used in a month, no throttling, and I save $60 per month. If 10 is not enough I will go to 15 and still save $30 every month.

I thought about "BRIEFLY" doing the same but I usually do at least 10Gb a month on my S4 already. Let alone the three other smart phones on my plan.
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Here I come T-Mobile.
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Already there and I love it

Been thinking about switching. Never really use data though. Mainly I think because I have to live it and watch myself. I assume you find more use for it if it's more readily at your disposal.
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Id like to see them try haha
They might make it mandatory for phone upgrades, etc.. but from last time they tried to do it they can't just change you. If they wanna break my contract I'm fine with that, I've been looking at cheaper carriers anyways. Even if they put it somewhere in the contract that they can break it my papers say "unlimited data" as the name so you can get the contract broken easily if it's no longer unlimited data.
Unlimited Data/Voice for a fee is the future anyways, they should stop trying to nickle and dime us as the change gets closer.
Only time I need my unlimited is when I travel and watch lots of movies but still it's the ONLY reason I am still with them as everyone has better prices, and signal with any carrier is not a issue in socal.

I am wondering what AT&T has up their sleeve.
Could it be that they will finally get rid of voice over cellular? That would mean that the unlimited text and talk comes out of your data.

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People abusing "unlimited" by using exceptional amounts of data tethering is the reason the true "unlimited" plans went away and will not come back to the major carriers. Sure, there are people that use a lot of data on their phone alone and there are people that tether some, but not all of the times. They are actually a small part of the overall users. A little tethering from time to time or a month of high data use due to watching the play-offs on the phone is not an issue The problem is the people that tether all of the time using their phones as their main internet connection. Mobile data was not meant for this. Basically, a few people keep finding ways to screw the system so no one else can benefit from it.
Of course, the major carriers should be providing plans at a better price and, for now, that seems to be happening because of T-Mobile's changes. However, the unlimited demise is definitely the fault of the abusers.
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I am not trying to start a flame war, so don't take this the wrong way. I do get where you are coming from. But if you think about it, if you pay for unlimited data, shouldn't you receive "Unlimited data"? Yes, it puts that much more stress on carriers trying to provide users with reliable data, but it also pushes them to become more efficient, and improve towers, resulting in a better user experience. It makes sense to want to cut the extra expenses from a carriers perspective. That said, It's still sad to see unlimited data go, whatever the reason.

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I am not trying to start a flame war, so don't take this the wrong way. I do get where you are coming from. But if you think about it, if you pay for unlimited data, shouldn't you receive "Unlimited data"? Yes, it puts that much more stress on carriers trying to provide users with reliable data, but it also pushes them to become more efficient, and improve towers, resulting in a better user experience. It makes sense to want to cut the extra expenses from a carriers perspective. That said, It's still sad to see unlimited data go, whatever the reason.
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Unlimited data for your phone, not for your household internet provider. There is a difference. If you use 50 gigs a month on pure phone usage...it should be ok, but if you tether and use 50 gigs for your entire house, it is not. And that is where the problem is.

I love hearing those say "I'll just switch to T-Mobile."
What's the point in having unlimited data if it only works in certain spots?
I'd recommend some hands-on coverage experimentation, and you'll realize why AT&T and Verizon get away with some of the crap that they pull.
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