Noob here - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hello all,
i just bought new android phone .. google nexus s .. i m new to smartphone world i have never used any smartphone before
i wanted to know what all things i need to know about android before starting to root my phone and many more

i think you dont need to worry about it right now, since nexus s comes with pure and great android, you should use it in stock while you read a lot in the forum.
Just enjoy your phone until you feel you are ready... )
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we were all noobs once. and some of us who arent noobs anymore, still act like noobs
anyways, dont rush it. read and educate yourself first. get comfortable with whatever processes. and, very importantly, familiarize yourself with the terminology. the terminology is what scares most people, not the actual process.

simms22 said:
the terminology is what scares most people, not the actual process.
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well said! =o]

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Hello Everyone

Hello everyone, just wana introduce myself. My name is Sofia and I love cellphones and new technology. I purchased captivate a month ago my first android phone. It's very fast and amazing. One of my friend told me about this site so I decided to join it. Lately my phone is been laggy and very slow. Can someone please help me and let me know what can I do to make it faster. Thank everyone
Start by reading through some of the stickies here and in the other Cappy subforums. Lots of good info. Searching before posting is also appreciated. Welcome.
sofia-captivate said:
Hello everyone, just wana introduce myself. My name is Sofia and I love cellphones and new technology. I purchased captivate a month ago my first android phone. It's very fast and amazing. One of my friend told me about this site so I decided to join it. Lately my phone is been laggy and very slow. Can someone please help me and let me know what can I do to make it faster. Thank everyone
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Hi Sofia welcome,
I'll assume you got it brand new and is running a stock ROM. I would say that there is something running in the background that is slowing you down some. I'd take a look at which/how many apps you have, and maybe delete the ones you don't use anymore. Do you know if you're running 2.1 or 2.2?
What you'll mostly find here at XDA are folks that love to mod, well love might not be a strong enough word, we're OBSESSED. So what you will most assuredly get from people is "Try sun-in-such's ROM, it's the best!"
If you're into that, this is the place to play. Have fun!
Lol
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Hi everyone im running 2.1 it came like that out of the box. Since im a girl I like phones that is simple and easy to use. I've used iPhones and blackberrys but im happy with android cause I can customize my screen to pink color. I would love to do mods but it seems very complicated since im not used to android and not very technical minded
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sofia-captivate said:
Hi everyone im running 2.1 it came like that out of the box. Since im a girl I like phones that is simple and easy to use. I've used iPhones and blackberrys but im happy with android cause I can customize my screen to pink color. I would love to do mods but it seems very complicated since im not used to android and not very technical minded
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You're probably better off not doing any mods then. Sorry if that sounds mean, but unless you're tech savvy to some minimal degree and comfortable with the idea of voiding your warranty and possibly bricking your phone, you're probably better off just leaving it stock.
modest_mandroid said:
You're probably better off not doing any mods then. Sorry if that sounds mean, but unless you're tech savvy to some minimal degree and comfortable with the idea of voiding your warranty and possibly bricking your phone, you're probably better off just leaving it stock.
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Is it that hard? I was reading through forum and looking at roms how is serendipity or cm7? Im learning slowly as I read. Do I just put rom on my SD card? How does it work?
modest_mandroid said:
You're probably better off not doing any mods then. Sorry if that sounds mean, but unless you're tech savvy to some minimal degree and comfortable with the idea of voiding your warranty and possibly bricking your phone, you're probably better off just leaving it stock.
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Not exactly, an hour or two spent reading threads over here is what you need.
Swyped from my Froyo-ed Captivate.
Welcome Sofia ! I also have a Rogers Captivate (have a Focus too) and running it on FIDO with few issues. Try upgrading to 2.2 using Keis. That in itself was no fun, but at least it will give you some idea of updating/modding the phone.
Ya I wana learn also
PaullikesWINMO said:
Welcome Sofia ! I also have a Rogers Captivate (have a Focus too) and running it on FIDO with few issues. Try upgrading to 2.2 using Keis. That in itself was no fun, but at least it will give you some idea of updating/modding the phone.
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PaullikesWINMO said:
Welcome Sofia ! I also have a Rogers Captivate (have a Focus too) and running it on FIDO with few issues. Try upgrading to 2.2 using Keis. That in itself was no fun, but at least it will give you some idea of updating/modding the phone.
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sofia-captivate said:
Is it that hard? I was reading through forum and looking at roms how is serendipity or cm7? Im learning slowly as I read. Do I just put rom on my SD card? How does it work?
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Please don't be fooled into thinking this stuff is really easy. There are already a bunch of threads from people who tried to use CM7 and messed up their phones. Flashing isn't that hard, but it is also pretty easy to screw up. Settle for upgrading to stock Froyo and then read, read, read.
sofia-captivate said:
Is it that hard? I was reading through forum and looking at roms how is serendipity or cm7? Im learning slowly as I read. Do I just put rom on my SD card? How does it work?
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It's not hard, but it's easy to botch it if you don't know what you're doing. If you're going to try your hand at flashing a custom rom, make sure you read about and understand the process enough to where you don't have to make guesses and assumptions. Also, jumping straight to cm7 is a terrible idea - flashing cm7 is a lot more involved than flashing any of the other roms found in the dev section, and if you don't know what you're doing you'll almost certainly end up with some sort of brick.
Read through the stickied threads. They contain a lot of useful information, which is why they're at the top of each subforum. Fill in the knowledge gaps by searching. There's more than enough information in the Captivate forum alone, let alone all of XDA, to teach you how to do everything from some simple modifications to building your own custom firmware.
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Please don't be fooled into thinking this stuff is really easy. There are already a bunch of threads from people who tried to use CM7 and messed up their phones. Flashing isn't that hard, but it is also pretty easy to screw up. Settle for upgrading to stock Froyo and then read, read, read.
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Swyped from my Froyo-ed Captivate.
It is really easy. It's just also really easy to screw up. But since you're a girly girl who likes things simple and easy (because you're a girl) and you have a girly name, guys will be stepping all over each other to help you and they'll be really polite.
Lol ur funny. No one has helped me yet. Been reading over 4 hours kind of learning its all new to me. But once I see it how it's then I learn quickly.
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It is really easy. It's just also really easy to screw up. But since you're a girly girl who likes things simple and easy (because you're a girl) and you have a girly name, guys will be stepping all over each other to help you and they'll be really polite.
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sofia-captivate said:
Lol ur funny. No one has helped me yet. Been reading over 4 hours kind of learning its all new to me. But once I see it how it's then I learn quickly.
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Cool. It occurs to me that what I wrote may have come of as a little hostile. It's really just that I'm a sarcastic bastard.
opcow said:
Cool. It occurs to me that what I wrote may have come of as a little hostile. It's really just that I'm a sarcastic bastard.
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sent u a pm
sofia-captivate said:
Lol ur funny. No one has helped me yet. Been reading over 4 hours kind of learning its all new to me. But once I see it how it's then I learn
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I'd wager 5-10 hours reading on XDA should get the average newbie up to speed to do basic flashing & hacking.
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Step by step

Guys i know some people here are already using android for a long time(days,weeks,months & years). I am new on android comm. And it took me 14hrs to figure out how can i root my atrix 2. Isn't it great if we can come up with a solid step by step,how to root and unlock bootloader for atrix 2. I know theres a bunch of ways how to do it but let's just consider those new comers. Lets make it easy step by step. What do u think guys?
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2 threads down.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1327741
i know it sounds really like that. i'm just new here. so it would probably take me more than 2 hrs to root everything. i did some research about the terminology and everything coz every terms you guys using freaks my head out. Lol but anyways i ended up doing it right. i am just concerned for those new comers. i appreciate you thoughts man.
Thanks.
itskjo said:
i know it sounds really like that. i'm just new here. so it would probably take me more than 2 hrs to root everything. i did some research about the terminology and everything coz every terms you guys using freaks my head out. Lol but anyways i ended up doing it right. i am just concerned for those new comers. i appreciate you thoughts man.
Thanks.
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what method did you use to root it?
you should have just downloaded the oneclickroot, unzipped it, plug your phone in, double kick the bat file, let it run and follow the onscreen directions.
takes about 5 minutes and works fine.
THE SEARCH BUTTON IS YOUR BEST FRIEND HERE. As for the step by step ...this thread contains just what you're asking for, do a lil research first.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1327741
14 hours to check debugging, install a usb driver file, and then run one click....
Well I guess if you are a noob then technically it could happen. My wife is a noob and she would never know how to figure it out.
Just think if this process included Android SDK and ABD, then you would be hosed. Always check the Development Tab first because they usually follow up with a youtube video for instructions. If you still have issues then ping us in the general section. Some people like to help while others will flame you, throw rotten tomatoes, point and laugh.
Any who, congrats on the root and welcome to the very disfunctional XDA family!
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Some people like to help while others will flame you, throw rotten tomatoes, point and laugh.
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So true. It took me about 4 months of checking everyday before I joined and then I don't remember how long before my first post. The OG forums were brutal to noobs LoL
Guys thanks a lot i am just concerned for those new comers and not into techy toys....well it took 14hrs to figure out everything coz i have to study ur terminology which is a big bomb for me....i am an iphone user for 3years so its kinda hard for me a lil bit to jump up...well u guys r right one click exploit really works....maybe for those new comers it would nice to also include some terminolgy we guys using here...i apprec8 ur comments...some people see its as a stupid question but i don't care.....
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This site is a hacker enthusiasts one. People expecting excessive hand holding really don't need to be messing with their phones anyway. It sounds rude but it's true. Those of us who have spent the time learning how to root an Android phone and install a kernel or rom have paid our dues. Everyone should.
gunnyman said:
This site is a hacker enthusiasts one. People expecting excessive hand holding really don't need to be messing with their phones anyway. It sounds rude but it's true. Those of us who have spent the time learning how to root an Android phone and install a kernel or rom have paid our dues. Everyone should.
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I don't think so, Man isn't android part of the open source community? If so, i don't see anything wrong overwriting some kernels and custom roms....
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itskjo said:
I don't think so, Man isn't android part of the open source community? If so, i don't see anything wrong overwriting some kernels and custom roms....
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neither do I, but people who want everything handed to them on a silverplatter and spoonfed to them have no business being here IMHO
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neither do I, but people who want everything handed to them on a silverplatter and spoonfed to them have no business being here IMHO
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Dude again this thread only concerns for new comers and i am pretty sure youve been to the noob stage too...
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gunnyman said:
This site is a hacker enthusiasts one. People expecting excessive hand holding really don't need to be messing with their phones anyway. It sounds rude but it's true. Those of us who have spent the time learning how to root an Android phone and install a kernel or rom have paid our dues. Everyone should.
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Agreed, man.
This topic is such a hot button for me.
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Dude again this thread only concerns for new comers and i am pretty sure youve been to the noob stage too...
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I dont think he wasn't tryin to bash ya I'm sure he was just saying do some research before started a thread when there is already one that has step by step details on how to root in the development section that's all
JRW 28 said:
I dont think he wasn't tryin to bash ya I'm sure he was just saying do some research before started a thread when there is already one that has step by step details on how to root in the development section that's all
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I read for months before monkeying with my first android.
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itskjo said:
Guys i know some people here are already using android for a long time(days,weeks,months & years). I am new on android comm. And it took me 14hrs to figure out how can i root my atrix 2. Isn't it great if we can come up with a solid step by step,how to root and unlock bootloader for atrix 2. I know theres a bunch of ways how to do it but let's just consider those new comers. Lets make it easy step by step. What do u think guys?
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How much more solid does it need to be? If you had read the thread on how to root the phone, the steps are laid out clear as day. There isn't a how to on how to unlock the bootloader because it can't be unlocked yet.

Bricked one phone.. Got replacement. Need Help

Okay so I had a G2x and tried rooting it and I think i did something wrong. With all these instructions ramble on about one thing and another hard for me to really understand all the correct steps.
So can I please have someone give me a hand with this? As in a step by step process of everything? This is my second G2X brand new from T-Mobile has the Gingerbread 2.3.3. So if anyone can actually tell me step by step and what files I am going to need so I don't brick this one because 300USD is getting expensive.
u payed for ur replacement? lol
use the one click flash nvidia tool, to flash the clockworkmod, you dont evne have to root it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kG08Uc8pQT0
yeah I had to pay for a second one. GRRR T-Mo actually checks their phones with sprint if I bricked or something just dip it in water and send it in. They would never check to see if you rooted it. So anyways do I install Clockwork or only do the steps in the video with the nv flasher?
And whats the best rom? I really like the looks of MIUI sorta looks like my wifes iPhone.
i think you screwed yourself on this one... this phone is like virtually unbrickable, nvflash should be able to bring you out of any soft bricks you might run into and ive run into a fair share of them and never had a problem...
i would recommend you sift though the development section and read all of the tutorials and have a very good understanding of what you are doing instead of having someone spoonfeed you everything when you really dont know what you are doing... (im a high school math teacher and cannot stand it when students are just spoonfed information because in the end they really dont understand what they are doing)
start here though http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847
Yeah, what he said. maybe you shouldn't be messing with your phone if you don't understand the implications.
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(im a high school math teacher and cannot stand it when students are just spoonfed information because in the end they really dont understand what they are doing)
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Best thing I've ever read. It helps shine a light on why so many people almost daily are asking for help on how to do something when this forum is riddled with tutorials. I personally stopped helping months ago with any questions on how to root or flash or just anything that there are tutorials for. It just gets crazy redundant.
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Beekersguy said:
Yeah, what he said. maybe you shouldn't be messing with your phone if you don't understand the implications.
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JHaste said:
(im a high school math teacher and cannot stand it when students are just spoonfed information because in the end they really dont understand what they are doing)
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Best thing I've ever read. It helps shine a light on why so many people almost daily are asking for help on how to do something when this forum is riddled with tutorials. I personally stopped helping months ago with any questions on how to root or flash or just anything that there are tutorials for. It just gets crazy redundant.
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Then why even post in here? Don't be a ****. Even more frustrating than people who can't use a search feature are people too uptight and high-strung to help someone. Yeah, maybe the OP could have found the answer himself. But he's obviously been following a tutorial (likely in this very forum) that's not working for him (hence his replacement phone). The guy just needs two seconds of help from someone. In the amount of time it took me to copy/paste the following links, I could have torn him a new one thirty times over. But I'm not a ****. So, if you absolutely HAVE to post here, at least make it constructive. Incessant *****ing does no good for anyone.
To the OP:
Firstly, you'll need to flash CWM. This is super simple, given you're on a PC. If you're on Mac, things will get tricky (i.e. virtual Linux environment, headaches, etc).
Next, you can find an easy to follow rooting method here. It even has an unroot .zip option given you have to send your phone in again (will save you another $300 ).
And of course, you can PM me if you need any help. If these are the steps you have already followed, here's a YouTube video with some visuals. When I'm stuck on something, that usually helps me a lot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CEjInNY5Y0
Good luck!
Uhhhh... i really dont understand how i was being a ****... I simply stated that he should have a holistic understanding of what hes doing before he starts tinkering because the figure it out as you go method can lead to a 300 dollar paper weight. Not to mention I pointed him in the right direction to start....
All I did was give a bit of advice that I felt was in his best interest and then sent him on his way...
If you think what I originally posted was flaming then you clearly have never seen me tear somebody a new one lol
Dont worry man
sent from my Sensation XD
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Then why even post in here? Don't be a ****. Even more frustrating than people who can't use a search feature are people too uptight and high-strung to help someone.
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Cuz I thought what he said was funny and agreed. I didnt realize the average joe had the right to question peoples right to agree and post. Don't get self-righteous on us.
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ericalanMICHAEL said:
Then why even post in here? Don't be a ****. Even more frustrating than people who can't use a search feature are people too uptight and high-strung to help someone. Yeah, maybe the OP could have found the answer himself. But he's obviously been following a tutorial (likely in this very forum) that's not working for him (hence his replacement phone). The guy just needs two seconds of help from someone. In the amount of time it took me to copy/paste the following links, I could have torn him a new one thirty times over. But I'm not a ****. So, if you absolutely HAVE to post here, at least make it constructive. Incessant *****ing does no good for anyone.
To the OP:
Firstly, you'll need to flash CWM. This is super simple, given you're on a PC. If you're on Mac, things will get tricky (i.e. virtual Linux environment, headaches, etc).
Next, you can find an easy to follow rooting method here. It even has an unroot .zip option given you have to send your phone in again (will save you another $300 ).
And of course, you can PM me if you need any help. If these are the steps you have already followed, here's a YouTube video with some visuals. When I'm stuck on something, that usually helps me a lot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CEjInNY5Y0
Good luck!
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They are being difficult. What they realize is that the OP has already stated that he's bricked one device because he cannot follow directions. He obviously does not know what he's doing, and has problems following instructions because, as he put it..they go on and on... In the end even if he successfully roots his phone, he may wind up causing himself problems by having access to system files because it's obvious he doesn't really know what he's doing. Everyone shouldn't root. If you cannot follow the simple instructions to root without "bricking" a device, and you cannot follow simple instructions to bring the device back to an operational state, then perhaps rooting is not for you (OP). It just sounds like he is going to cause himself even more problems.
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They are being difficult. What they realize is that the OP has already stated that he's bricked one device because he cannot follow directions. He obviously does not know what he's doing, and has problems following instructions because, as he put it..they go on and on... In the end even if he successfully roots his phone, he may wind up causing himself problems by having access to system files because it's obvious he doesn't really know what he's doing. Everyone shouldn't root. If you cannot follow the simple instructions to root without "bricking" a device, and you cannot follow simple instructions to bring the device back to an operational state, then perhaps rooting is not for you (OP). It just sounds like he is going to cause himself even more problems.
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^^this... root access to phones is not a hand out, it has to be earned, and you earn it by educating yourself about your device and its capabilities and by following simple instructions...
sabwjawdjw said:
yeah I had to pay for a second one. GRRR T-Mo actually checks their phones with sprint if I bricked or something just dip it in water and send it in. They would never check to see if you rooted it. So anyways do I install Clockwork or only do the steps in the video with the nv flasher?
And whats the best rom? I really like the looks of MIUI sorta looks like my wifes iPhone.
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I can't believe no one has said this yet.
Most phones have water sensors, so dipping it in water would just void the warranty. Sorry if you were joking. But as many have said, it's pretty easy to flash the phone back to normal so the TMobile doesn't know it's been hacked. Did you ask here first?
I am thankful for all the responses. Sorry if I caused grief and headache to anyone. I was finally able to get my phone rooted giving the information that someone provided to me on here. I sent him a PM to personally thank him.
By all means I should probably be *****ed at if I don't follow instructions very well. I have always considered myself a visual learner. If I don't have hands on and able to see it done, it really complicates things for me. I guess you can call it a disability.
Anyways I have come from a long line to HTC which I can say is way different in rooting then these phones. I root them to begin with to get rid of all the stupid software T-Mobile places in my phone and to normally switch to CM7 which I have found out is giving me problems which I am currently trying to figure out.
So please negative comments and put downs are always accepted it comes with the questions. But I don't want to sound like an ass or anything when I say this because I mean it in the upmost respect to everyone, but isn't this a forum? A community forum?
Someone once had to show you, all I did was ask for the same help. And this whole GSM network ways of doing things is different from my typical Sprint CDMA network that I am used to. Everything was pretty much the same when it came to that.
Again please I AM VERY SORRY truly if I caused any problems. Please don't be upset at me. Thanks.
I don't think anyone is upset with you. We're all here to contribute and help. Have fun with your rooted G2X
sabwjawdjw said:
Okay so I had a G2x and tried rooting it and I think i did something wrong. With all these instructions ramble on about one thing and another hard for me to really understand all the correct steps.
So can I please have someone give me a hand with this? As in a step by step process of everything? This is my second G2X brand new from T-Mobile has the Gingerbread 2.3.3. So if anyone can actually tell me step by step and what files I am going to need so I don't brick this one because 300USD is getting expensive.
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Don't feel bad. I bricked mine upgrading to GB, and I'm still not sure what went wrong. I got it fixed for free by sending it into LG.
sabwjawdjw said:
I am thankful for all the responses. Sorry if I caused grief and headache to anyone. I was finally able to get my phone rooted giving the information that someone provided to me on here. I sent him a PM to personally thank him.
By all means I should probably be *****ed at if I don't follow instructions very well. I have always considered myself a visual learner. If I don't have hands on and able to see it done, it really complicates things for me. I guess you can call it a disability.
Anyways I have come from a long line to HTC which I can say is way different in rooting then these phones. I root them to begin with to get rid of all the stupid software T-Mobile places in my phone and to normally switch to CM7 which I have found out is giving me problems which I am currently trying to figure out.
So please negative comments and put downs are always accepted it comes with the questions. But I don't want to sound like an ass or anything when I say this because I mean it in the upmost respect to everyone, but isn't this a forum? A community forum?
Someone once had to show you, all I did was ask for the same help. And this whole GSM network ways of doing things is different from my typical Sprint CDMA network that I am used to. Everything was pretty much the same when it came to that.
Again please I AM VERY SORRY truly if I caused any problems. Please don't be upset at me. Thanks.
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Do not sweat the whiners. Here is the way I look at it... It is a forum for developers. I can not develop crap, so I try to do my part by being helpful when I can. Everyone here was brand new at one point. Make sure you do your part by reading as much as you can. If you still have questions/issues, send me a PM.
Why does every noob question get followed up with a bunch bullshizz. We were all noobs at one point, I remember when my Huawei ascend scared me. Nothing is worse than bricking your phone and being upset than a bunch of know it all asses being pricks. Is the g2x forum the only one full of d-ckheads? I've never heard so much whining and holier than thou bs. I'm surprised we have any devs, ungrateful bunch of *****es. Wah, nvidia never, wah, everyone else has ics, wah, that noob asked a question, wah, I suck. I love my g2x, it's a typical musclecar, way over powered and finicky as hell. The g2x is not a beginners device, this is for big boys and girls. I wonder what the whiners would do if they owned a ferrari? Newsflash, they break down, a lot! I remember when xda was where you went for help and support, now I come here to be entertained by the ignorance of the know it alls. Go ahead, blast me, I'm a writer for an Android website and I'll make it painful. OK, then, how bout all these new roms and updates? It's like the g2x is reborn. Hey, wait a minute, I thought the g2x was a useless, unsupported piece of ka ka? Frickin morons!
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Well first I am glad you were able to fix the phone however I understand knowledgeable people get frustrated because this phone is simple to root. With a phone that has been out this long there is no reason anyone can not find out what to do on there own.
There are so many YouTube videos and forums like this. You are not the second person to too your phone or to brick it so why create a new post looking for help when you can simply Google it. I know your lazy and expect someone else to do your work for you.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...9l19l0l3l3l0l1535l5020l1.0.3.0.2.2.1.0.1l10l0
See plenty of info on the subject I am sure one of these other people have been helped.
This is why devs are tired of these questions they have been answered over and over. You may find this mean to say but you most likely found this forum by using Google so use it to fix your phone. Stop wasting peoples time by being lazy and use your head.
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The problem is this. Ppl dont know how to research their issue. Also ppl in our generation cant seem to follow directions worth ****. I was the same way. I learned on my g1. Rooted it successful and then bricked my friends. Over the years ive learned alot about computers/phone/cdma flashing. Playing with the big boys. You develop problem solving skills that you can apply outside of this. It truly makes you smarter. So yea. Maybe we are know it all asses.
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You are your own worst enemy...

Not much point to this other than me just coming to a slow realization, I don't know why it took me this long but I've finally realized most of the problems I read about are caused by people NOT reading and the problems never really should have happened in the first place.
Perfect example is the new firmware, I've lost count of how many people have posted issues with it even though they aren't superCID and don't even know what that means. Or people not taking the time to research some key vocabulary words, like the difference between a radio and an ruu.
I just don't understand why somebody would spend the money to buy a relatively expensive phone like the sensation and then not take the time to research and read thoroughly before attempting something that could potentially brick their brand new toy??
Ahhh, forget it, maybe I'm just cranky...
kingston73 said:
Not much point to this other than me just coming to a slow realization, I don't know why it took me this long but I've finally realized most of the problems I read about are caused by people NOT reading and the problems never really should have happened in the first place.
Perfect example is the new firmware, I've lost count of how many people have posted issues with it even though they aren't superCID and don't even know what that means. Or people not taking the time to research some key vocabulary words, like the difference between a radio and an ruu.
I just don't understand why somebody would spend the money to buy a relatively expensive phone like the sensation and then not take the time to research and read thoroughly before attempting something that could potentially brick their brand new toy??
Ahhh, forget it, maybe I'm just cranky...
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yep man...it is very boring to say thousand of time the same thing! well but no one can change it...unfortunately
While this is true, you also have to understand that some threads did not state that you need the latest firmware for the rom to work. I remember flashing a ics rom for the first time and the original thread did not sya I need ton upgrade my firmware
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While this is true, you also have to understand that some threads did not state that you need the latest firmware for the rom to work. I remember flashing a ics rom for the first time and the original thread did not sya I need ton upgrade my firmware
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This is so true. Some of the instructions are missing steps that you need to complete before you even start. And this board is MASSIVE in size, so finding the right info for your device might sometimes be tricky.
its because people are too impatient
Now don't blame the threads "missing steps" or "not saying you need to upgrade." If you're going to flash your phone with experimental software, you need to know what you're doing.
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Now don't blame the threads "missing steps" or "not saying you need to upgrade." If you're going to flash your phone with experimental software, you need to know what you're doing.
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I agree with this. Coz before I did flash my phone I really did intensive research reading everywhere in this section, finding tips though its true not all guide for noobs is really for noobs which you should have common sense on what you exactly need to do. Until recently a lot of guys (we should thank them) really dedicated their time doing the spoon fed procedures but unfortunately there seems still few people having the hardtime to flash FW, ROM Kernel and ended up bricking the phone.
Been that way for a long time, buddy. Never gonna change.
It would be nice if duplicate questions, cases of user error, etc. were deleted. But that would be way too much work.
I don't know who keeps on rating a 1 and tagging threads with useless tags just because he can but whoever you are, you should realize that this is a public forum. If the topic doesn't concern you, move along. I bet that this is the same guy that put a 1 rating on our Sensation on PH thread.
Get a life buddy. You have way too much free time on your hands.
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I agree with this. Coz before I did flash my phone I really did intensive research reading everywhere in this section, finding tips though its true not all guide for noobs is really for noobs which you should have common sense on what you exactly need to do. Until recently a lot of guys (we should thank them) really dedicated their time doing the spoon fed procedures but unfortunately there seems still few people having the hardtime to flash FW, ROM Kernel and ended up bricking the phone.
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I agree on 70% on what you said, but....
A COMPLETE noob will not be able to know what those "common sense steps" mean. Nor will he know which terms and which threads apply to his process of flashing, nor which information to look for. He will follow the instructions to the letter, get stuck and then get frustrated when people jump on him and tell him he should've known he had to do this and that before starting.
So, of course he will be confused and ask questions on this forum, EVEN IF the information is available in thread #898761, page 46, post #197.
But yes, I agree. Most of the instructions are solid and most of them tell you to go to a specific thread if you don't know what something means. But not all.
Whats the point of this thread? I don't mean to flame or ***** or troll, really. But it's like saying "If wealth in the world would be more evenly distributed, children in africa wouldn't die from famine" and then you'd have 10 others nodding and saying "yeah"
yeah I agree with OP totally, we all know that and we all were faced with retards who can't google up words like "adb push". Even a noob can fire up google and read what this means, just like I did.
But it's the way it is, and you're not the first to complain about it. Still won't change a damn thing because those ppl we're talking about are the ones least likely to read this thread.
I know you said yourself this thread is for venting, but had I opened a thread each time I face-palmed because of stupid ppl then... ah well you get my point
just my 0.5$
cheers!
Vipeout said:
Whats the point of this thread? I don't mean to flame or ***** or troll, really. But it's like saying "If wealth in the world would be more evenly distributed, children in africa wouldn't die from famine" and then you'd have 10 others nodding and saying "yeah"
yeah I agree with OP totally, we all know that and we all were faced with retards who can't google up words like "adb push". Even a noob can fire up google and read what this means, just like I did.
But it's the way it is, and you're not the first to complain about it. Still won't change a damn thing because those ppl we're talking about are the ones least likely to read this thread.
I know you said yourself this thread is for venting, but had I opened a thread each time I face-palmed because of stupid ppl then... ah well you get my point
just my 0.5$
cheers!
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Yes the main thing is people should really learn to use the search bar at the top of every page. Its my best friend and has saved me when I got into a boot loop. Also if, for any reason whatsoever, you feel like your about to brick your phone by flashing a rom or a kernel or whatever, DONT DO IT. Plain and simple. DONT DO IT. You shouldn't be rooting if you don't hold the confidence to flash a kernel or rom and know your phone won't brick.
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Am i ready to root?

Are you ready to root your phone!?
I am writing this out do to the amount of people who seem to start doing things on their phones without understanding what it is they're really doing.
Now you might say "I know I know exad, I root many phoen, I want 2 show peopel how smrt I am! I custumize everything and maek it lewk cool!" But there's really quite a bit of risk associate with the rooting process and even afterwards! Here, I will explain some of the common terms and risks associated with rooting, it will be like an index of knowledge I've accumulated being here on XDA.
So first off, what is root? Why is it dangerous?
I will tell you very directly, if you do not know exactly what root is, and/or how to manage access, you are not at all ready to root.
Root is a term to mean Administrative Access. Meaning you have full control over the software of your phone and it's system files. When you are given root access, you can alter any system files. This can obviously be damaging. Perhaps you trust yourself not to do anything crazy or destructive, which I think is the case for most people but often, root access is given to third party apps! So what can an app with root access do with your phone technically?.. Well, ANYTHING IT'S DEVELOPER wants. Overclock your CPU, create a backdoor to your phone, pull/steal personal information. The sky's the limit.
*This is a work in reprogress* More content will continue to be added until I feel this is complete."
Nice write up exad
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I agree. Very nice.
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Thanks guys! Means a lot coming from two top notch contributers as yourselves!
Yup.....very nice. I have been doing this for so Iong I had forgotten why. :thumbup:
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This Is great...unfortunately 90% of new people won't see or read this.. most new people search "att one x root"
No. Thank you sir. I haven't thought about the basics in a long time. Been to busy just flashing away lol.
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a box of kittens said:
This Is great...unfortunately 90% of new people won't see or read this.. most new people search "att one x root"
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There, that should help that! If it helps at least 1 person, it'll have been worth it.
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There, that should help that! If it helps at least 1 person, it'll have been worth it.
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We can only hope. Good job!
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I was thinking of doing a write up, but with work and army, I have no time. As you can see I am constantly on the app. However, this is awesome. I wish I had this when I started a few months ago. I just learned on my own. Also the android slang guide helped too.
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I wrote up something like this a while ago but decided not to post it because noobs never read these things. I may just throw it up in General.
Great work I will add it to my FAQ
Thanks for all your help, unfortunately I am one of those noobs who had been studying the root process for just about a week and thought I had a firm grasp on the concept. Fortunately for me I haven't done anything yet to brick my phone this is definitely a humbling experience haha -heads back to the forums to learn some more- :good:
Hmm not sure why this doesn't have more recognition... It took me months to figure this crap out. With a little experience, this guide could turn a total noob into a competant android rooter in a week or so. I remember my first posts on XDA *shudders*. So.... consider this a BUMPITY-BUMP
EDIT: That said, I know the first place many people go is general (that's what I did) so maybe this would get more views by the people who actually need it in general.
I would have loved this when I was rooting
Thanks for this. I've already rooted my phone and had to find much of this information on my own. It's nice to see it all in one place.
-RB
It's been a while since I've rooted a phone so I came here from another guide to refresh my memory a bit.
This thread is a joke, right? One of the more useless threads I've seen.
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It's been a while since I've rooted a phone so I came here from another guide to refresh my memory a bit.
This thread is a joke, right? One of the more useless threads I've seen.
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no I rage quit a few months back and deleted it all. I can rewrite it but people don't read anymore anyway (judging by Q&A)
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no I rage quit a few months back and deleted it all. I can rewrite it but people don't read anymore anyway (judging by Q&A)
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I came here through the link in FAQ! Too bad you deleted it
I can understand not updating because few people read this post but why actually delete it?

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