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Bad news for Canadian Folks...

just got a tweet from SE canada and they arent gonna release 2.1 until december...
http://twitter.com/sonyericssonca

we can still flash our phones with other country's 2.1 rom or a debranded 2.1 rom

dk2000zx said:
we can still flash our phones with other country's 2.1 rom or a debranded 2.1 rom
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Exactly as long as they release it somwhere in September ill be happy

Yeah it's probably getting held back for Rogers to test and or lock up the phone like the whole HTC Dream fiasco.

And here i thought, we canadian beat the US for the first time having x10 in our country before them... but now we are last in our update. Where is our justice!

iphonepimp said:
just got a tweet from SE canada and they arent gonna release 2.1 until december...
http://twitter.com/sonyericssonca
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Actually, they say that it will be released sometime between October 1 and December 31. Makes some sense, as it's not expected to be released anywhere until the end of September, and if it falls even a week after that it'll be October.
With that said, it wouldn't surprise me if it does take Rogers until December. Have they even released 026 yet? That's why I rooted and went with the generic ROM. Been running 026 for like a month-and-a-half.
As others have said, as long as a generic X10a firmware gets posted somewhere, we'll be set.

I think Canadian cell phone users were anticipating this though. It happens all the time. For once I almost thought we'd be close to par but I saw that tweet earlier as well.
Ah well. Thankfully there's a strong online community and we'll have this minutes after it's released

bongd said:
I think Canadian cell phone users were anticipating this though. It happens all the time. For once I almost thought we'd be close to par but I saw that tweet earlier as well.
Ah well. Thankfully there's a strong online community and we'll have this minutes after it's released
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So just wondering, is debranding the same thing as unlocking? I'm looking at the tutorial in Xperiax10.net... they say it might brick the phone so I'm hesitating slightly...

pngface said:
So just wondering, is debranding the same thing as unlocking? I'm looking at the tutorial in Xperiax10.net... they say it might brick the phone so I'm hesitating slightly...
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Debrand = remove operator logos, apps (bloatware), etc. Lets you use generic FW and FW from other carriers
Unlocking = allows you to use your phone on a different carrier. No more binding to carriers. You'll want to debrand your phone and use a generic FW once it's released... we'll definitely be getting a late update from Rogers.

Absolute BS. Hmm, to change phone or not.. I wonder if we will actually get One-Finger Zoom?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy4pS2YcKXI

Grr Rawr!!!!

where does it say dec. they say in Q4 and Q4 doesn't start in dec. it starts in oct. sony always said it is going to in Q4

So...

So who is going to buy the new phones when at&t releases them, or be like me and wait about 6 months to see what else pops up?
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If you play the waiting game, you'll be waiting forever.
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If you play the waiting game, you'll be waiting forever.
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Thats why i am waiting about 6 months, enough to see if anything better then the atrix will come out.
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Why are we working on 2.2
Why not 2.2.1 or 2.3

Let's not beat a dead horse.
Sorry to be blunt, but there is numerous threads about this.

tzabka said:
Why not 2.2.1 or 2.3
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I am talking about when you know you are going to drop the captivate... but if your going to wait and see what other stuff comes out or not.
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i will WAIT!!bring on the samsung galaxy hologram phone lol..but i wonder about att.pricing for data on their so called 4GNETWORK. you you all ever hear of internet2 you are going to love that,it will keep you safe

FIREONHIGH said:
i will WAIT!!bring on the samsung galaxy hologram phone lol..but i wonder about att.pricing for data on their so called 4GNETWORK. you you all ever hear of internet2 you are going to love that,it will keep you safe
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you do know of this,yes?,,i will eat my laptop in 11 months from now if this **** doesnt happen,and you mikey also think google will not start censoring the net before that? i hope you right,,,,,,,i dont want it ,,,heyyyyyyyy lets get mikey,live in your dreamworld here,i hope you are prepared.you good sir sound like a SHILL,good day

LMAO @ that insult video

jgr208 said:
Thats why i am waiting about 6 months, enough to see if anything better then the atrix will come out.
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Thats so long though; I got the captivate last july(?) And i can upgrade right noW. The Atrix and dock are very tempting but theyre going ti announce some good stuff at MWC. I just hope to god they take a note from Apple and have the phones ready to ship within a month or so.
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FLAC Vest said:
Thats so long though; I got the captivate last july(?) And i can upgrade right noW. The Atrix and dock are very tempting but theyre going ti announce some good stuff at MWC. I just hope to god they take a note from Apple and have the phones ready to ship within a month or so.
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For three reasons mostly, to see the good of the phones, the bad, if they will get updated, and what new phones are planned.
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jgr208 said:
Thats why i am waiting about 6 months, enough to see if anything better then the atrix will come out.
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exactly and when that next great thing is released in 6 months....don't you think you will want to wait another six months to see what other next greatest thing is about to be released?

bames said:
exactly and when that next great thing is released in 6 months....don't you think you will want to wait another six months to see what other next greatest thing is about to be released?
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No matter what you get, or when you get it, it's obsolete in a matter of weeks.
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Yea, I would say think "video card". Those suckers are pumped out so fast, that is the only item in my pc that I am hesitant to buy.

MikeyMike01 said:
No matter what you get, or when you get it, it's obsolete in a matter of weeks.
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Xstop said:
Yea, I would say think "video card". Those suckers are pumped out so fast, that is the only item in my pc that I am hesitant to buy.
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these two posts = thumbs up.
the question is. when to stop waiting? its either now or never imo
oh, and thumbs down to the thread title. its very unimformative, it could be about the world ending or about a new cat you just got... i cant tell by the title.

I agree. Please title your threads appropriately OP. "So...." is a title that should get you banned for a week.

If you know that AT&T is going to release better products down the road (and you do, if you're thinking about waiting 6 or so months) then you have to decide whether or not its worth it to get an HSPA+ phone or wait for the inevitable LTE devices to rear their heads. Personally, I'm thinking of getting an Inspire 4G retail when they're launched as a birthday present to me from me, and then possibly using my upgrade later on when an LTE device shows up. It's all a matter of whether it's worth the wait to you.

i used my update on my craptivate with my 2.1dumpdate1. if it wasnt for you devs then i would be pissing on samsungs doorstep right now. i think ill either get the atrix or a nexus s since dev phones are about the only thing guarunteed to get the latest stuff. paying full price anyway. id like to see motorola drop a high powered device like the atrix but wrap it up all tanky like the defy.

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If you know that AT&T is going to release better products down the road (and you do, if you're thinking about waiting 6 or so months) then you have to decide whether or not its worth it to get an HSPA+ phone or wait for the inevitable LTE devices to rear their heads. Personally, I'm thinking of getting an Inspire 4G retail when they're launched as a birthday present to me from me, and then possibly using my upgrade later on when an LTE device shows up. It's all a matter of whether it's worth the wait to you.
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Exactly. See, I already have the Captivate now which, although won't be the best thing on the market soon, is still a damn good phone and @ 1.28ghz it keeps up just nicely with the best if them.
I have an upgrade and the question now is; what do I get? Since the Atrix was a flop (pricing and required tethering) im definitely waiting for MWC to see whats coming; the new Samsung phone should be great.
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T-Mobile working on G2x software fix, Gingerbread coming by summer

http://www.bgr.com/2011/05/26/t-mobile-working-on-g2x-software-fix-gingerbread-coming-by-summer/
Let's see what the outcome will be.

Didnt we know this already? Isnt there a thread dedicated to this?

Like I said when I posted this link half an hour ago, summer is less than a month away! Though a few bug fixes would be nice before then...
I wonder if the phone will remain "out of stock" until the update?

T-Mobile said. “As with any new device, a small percentage of customers have commented about possible improvements and we are working with LG to deliver a software update, which we expect to offer some performance issues.”
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So they are going to be giving an update that causes performance issues? lol

Spyvie said:
Like I said when I posted this link half an hour ago, summer is less than a month away! Though a few bug fixes would be nice before then...
I wonder if the phone will remain "out of stock" until the update?
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September is still considered summer....

wondercoolguy said:
September is still considered summer....
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Yes, but I believe the direct quote is "by summer"...

wondercoolguy said:
September is still considered summer....
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T-Mobile may issue this fix at the same time it rolls out its planned Android Gingerbread update, which the carrier announced will occur sometime before summer.
Summer starts June 21st or something. So "before June 21st".
That's how I read it. Note they didn't say "during" or "over" summer.

this is tmobile we are dealing with and you know how the updates for froyo with the vibrant went. yes i know this is not samsung but you have to think it is tmo and it is possible that they didnt want to release it so i will wait until the end of summer when we will possible get it. so do not come on here on june 21 or whenever the beginning of summer and expect to have gb on your phone that's not how tmobile works.

dligon said:
this is tmobile we are dealing with and you know how the updates for froyo with the vibrant went. yes i know this is not samsung but you have to think it is tmo and it is possible that they didnt want to release it so i will wait until the end of summer when we will possible get it. so do not come on here on june 21 or whenever the beginning of summer and expect to have gb on your phone that's not how tmobile works.
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Yes, but in this case a lot of customers are waiting for an update to make their $500 phones work. T-Mo and LG have some serious incentive to get an update out ASAP.
EDIT: If I have to wait more than a month or so for a basic bug-fix update I may look into a full refund under lemon laws or whatever.

dligon said:
this is tmobile we are dealing with and you know how the updates for froyo with the vibrant went. yes i know this is not samsung but you have to think it is tmo and it is possible that they didnt want to release it so i will wait until the end of summer when we will possible get it. so do not come on here on june 21 or whenever the beginning of summer and expect to have gb on your phone that's not how tmobile works.
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My apologies sir but you are misinformed if you believe T-Mobile actually is the one at fault for late android releases. Blame the maker's companies such as Samsung Motorola HTC or LG, not T-Mobile, At&t,and Verizon. (And sometimes Sprint >.> lol)
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When I went to swap my battery out I mentioned reboots and the battery problem she told me a update would be out the end of next month. Can't really trust the reps but she was using a g2x as well....

samnir said:
My apologies sir but you are misinformed if you believe T-Mobile actually is the one at fault for late android releases. Blame the maker's companies such as Samsung Motorola HTC or LG, not T-Mobile, At&t,and Verizon. (And sometimes Sprint >.> lol)
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No your wrong. The manufacturer. Has gb done already its in T-Mobiles hands just like with the vibrant...
Samsung had 2.2.1 out in September. But it took till December to get it from T-Mobile...
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samnir said:
My apologies sir but you are misinformed if you believe T-Mobile actually is the one at fault for late android releases. Blame the maker's companies such as Samsung Motorola HTC or LG, not T-Mobile, At&t,and Verizon. (And sometimes Sprint >.> lol)
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yes that's true it is the companies fault but as you know if lg, htc etc sends tmobile gb with free tethering or something similar then tmobile will most definitely send that version back until the company fixes it or until tmobile can block the feature and they will also have to be able to put their bloatware on the phone so it is tmo fault if say lg releases gb on june 1 and tmobile doesnt get it out until aug because they want to bloat it up with crap.

dligon said:
yes that's true it is the companies fault but as you know if lg, htc etc sends tmobile gb with free tethering or something similar then tmobile will most definitely send that version back until the company fixes it or until tmobile can block the feature and they will also have to be able to put their bloatware on the phone so it is tmo fault if say lg releases gb on june 1 and tmobile doesnt get it out until aug because they want to bloat it up with crap.
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Correct answer
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i for one will not be holding my breath all summer long waiting for this gb release if it happens. i did that with froyo with the vibrant now i can only remember only part of my name and the first 2 digits of my birthday.

dligon said:
i for one will not be holding my breath all summer long waiting for this gb release if it happens. i did that with froyo with the vibrant now i can only remember only part of my name and the first 2 digits of my birthday.
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Hah ha yeah i had a aneurysm waiting on T-Mobile
I wont do it again for this phone
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nate420 said:
No your wrong. The manufacturer. Has gb done already its in T-Mobiles hands just like with the vibrant...
Samsung had 2.2.1 out in September. But it took till December to get it from T-Mobile...
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Oh yeah! you mean the unfinished GB? I can totally see how that's ready for mass production updates. >.> yeah bro. Again I see exaggerated time tables and to much blame put on Carriers. They're the necessary evil don't get be wrong but their involvement is minimal compared to what you all believe, slapping on"non removable" bloatware onto the Software is more simple than you give them credit for. Agreed options like free wifi are obvious rejected versions but that doesn't result in multi month extensions.
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lmao i love all the bashing..
but i hope the update does come out by the end of june!! that would be great.

dligon said:
yes that's true it is the companies fault but as you know if lg, htc etc sends tmobile gb with free tethering or something similar then tmobile will most definitely send that version back until the company fixes it or until tmobile can block the feature and they will also have to be able to put their bloatware on the phone so it is tmo fault if say lg releases gb on june 1 and tmobile doesnt get it out until aug because they want to bloat it up with crap.
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I got mine from a tmobile store, all tethering intact.
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dligon said:
yes that's true it is the companies fault but as you know if lg, htc etc sends tmobile gb with free tethering or something similar then tmobile will most definitely send that version back until the company fixes it or until tmobile can block the feature and they will also have to be able to put their bloatware on the phone so it is tmo fault if say lg releases gb on june 1 and tmobile doesnt get it out until aug because they want to bloat it up with crap.
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My sentiments as well.
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june 15th d-day

ok so this is the second time talking to tmobile tech and them telling me june 15th gingerbread will be sent out, they just got word that its ready they said it fixes a bunch of things, she stressed on not having a task killer that day cuz it would mess the ota update up, im good cuz i dont need the ota il wait for the rooted version lol, she said make sure your battery is fully charged. she also said there sending it out that day because the sensation drops? i thought it already did??? idk im almost 80% sure now after hearing all the stuff she told me that it will be out. some of u guys should try calling tech support and see what they say

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ok so this is the second time talking to tmobile tech and them telling me june 15th gingerbread will be sent out, they just got word that its ready they said it fixes a bunch of things, she stressed on not having a task killer that day cuz it would mess the ota update up, im good cuz i dont need the ota il wait for the rooted version lol, she said make sure your battery is fully charged. she also said there sending it out that day because the sensation drops? i thought it already did??? idk im almost 80% sure now after hearing all the stuff she told me that it will be out. some of u guys should try calling tech support and see what they say
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IMO they were delaying gingerbread update and saving it for June 15th mainly because they do not want most of the G2X users to go to stores on 15th and exchange their G2X with Sensation. They would want to sell Sensation to the new customers not unsatisfied G2X users. It's just a theory though. I just wish they release GB soon.

I am so excited!!!! Tomorrow I will be checking my phone the whole day!
I will call T-Mobile and see what they say about the update,
Thanks for letting us know

i know i agree cuz i said why are you guys dropping both the same day and she said she didnt know lol, i was skeptical at first but after everything she said like temporarily disable task killer if u have one idk all makes sense, dude she was reading everything off to me from her computer screen she said, she was like some people were complaining about there phone shutting down and rebooting at times, she said the update will fix it, so lets see what tommorrow brings boys

i just called back for ****s agiggles n this rep didnt hear anything....idk its weird y would the 2 i talked to know about it and this one not know about it

we shall see i dont see it happening..

I'm not holding my breath either...it'd be announced all over if it was official.
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From my experience, the level 1 techs don't know a whole lot, even about updates. Probably need to talk to someone in the Android tech dept.

I'll believe it when I see it...
T-Mobile more than likely is informing their G2x customers that the update is coming on the 15th to shut us up. I highly doubt the we would get the update before the European customers get theirs - they have had their devices a couple of months before we in the states got ours and they have still not seen an update. At this point I wouldn't trust a word T-Mobile says.

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i just called back for ****s agiggles n this rep didnt hear anything....idk its weird y would the 2 i talked to know about it and this one not know about it
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I have found Tmo is like anyplace else. There are great employees that read all the memos and know what the hell is going on and are helpful and then there are a bunch of deadbeats just collecting a check.

dkb218 said:
T-Mobile more than likely is informing their G2x customers that the update is coming on the 15th to shut us up. I highly doubt the we would get the update before the European customers get theirs - they have had their devices a couple of months before we in the states got ours and they have still not seen an update. At this point I wouldn't trust a word T-Mobile says.
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u know whats crazy about that she said they rolled theres out last week.....??? i would like to know tho

There is no GB update coming I have the inside source code
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jcbofkc said:
I have found Tmo is like anyplace else. There are great employees that read all the memos and know what the hell is going on and are helpful and then there are a bunch of deadbeats just collecting a check.
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i feel ya......i just hope it happens, idk have a day to findout so we shall see

Rootuser3.0 said:
There is no GB update coming y'all are some effing Id its
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dude im just relaying what the tech told me, and y are we idiots??? do u know for sure, let me guess u work for tmobile

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dude im just relaying what the tech told me, and y are we idiots??? do u know for sure, let me guess u work for tmobile
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No, I believe he works at Bullsh*t'R'us
But it's all speculation at this point, no one will know for sure until it actually happens. Seeing is believing, after all

omarsalmin said:
No, I believe he works at Bullsh*t'R'us
But it's all speculation at this point, no one will know for sure until it actually happens. Seeing is believing, after all
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lol yea hes even retiring early for being such a great employee lol, nah i guess we will just wait and see....

I'm banging Tmobile's ceo daughter and she said something would be coming out tommorow.

dligon said:
I'm banging Tmobile's ceo daughter and she said something would be coming out tommorow.
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...cumming*

dligon said:
I'm banging Tmobile's ceo daughter and she said something would be coming out tommorow.
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Pics or it didn't happen
"If Satan lived in heaven he'd be me... "

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Pics or it didn't happen
"If Satan lived in heaven he'd be me... "
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Second this notion!

Jellybean?

Huh at&t or google screwing us over already one of the two lol. We don't even have official gingerbread and there getting ready to release this? Wow!
http://www.redmondpie.com/android-j...r-android-with-game-changing-features-report/
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Hey bro, how does this equal "Google screwing us?" ATT's the one to blame for us not having an official Gingerbread OTA drop.
EDIT: Better yet, I'm going to find you in IRC

beatblaster said:
Hey bro, how does this equal "Google screwing us?" ATT's the one to blame for us not having an official Gingerbread OTA drop.
EDIT: Better yet, I'm going to find you in IRC
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.......infuse.....Infused....infusion.........

Some people lack common sense.lol but ya dude..its all AT&T not google..
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Nowhere in the posted article does it say that Jellybean is "about to be released."

It's almost comical that they are referring to another release when ICS hasn't even been released.
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It's almost comical that they are referring to another release when ICS hasn't even been released.
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Rumor has it. ICS is gonna be release in October with the nexus (droid)prime
Android kicks apples ass.. Infused 2.1.0

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Nowhere in the posted article does it say that Jellybean is "about to be released."
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Ok there Guy could be early as next month but mostly points at October or November. We don't need a bunch of doctor Phil's In here trying to correct everything. Lol funny. Just read the post and leave it be.
But Google is comical they don't even have other things fixes but they are trying to release more. Im glad they are staying in the fastlane but they need to kick ATT in gear and fix other issues then release new stuff.
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I blame Samsung and not AT&T. My Atrix we updated twice within 2 months of it coming out.
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ATT definitely needs to get on the bandwagon with the Infuse, my Atrix got Gingerbread pretty quick. Not sure what the big deal is.

I hate to say it guys but get used to it. ATT is terrible with updates. Each phone may get one major update and thats about it. Any of you that have been in the smartphone world for a while will know this. Hell sometimes ATT wont push any updates for a phone at all.
I mean think about it. A phone is termed EOL after 4 months of ATT releasing it.

zelendel said:
I hate to say it guys but get used to it. ATT is terrible with updates. Each phone may get one major update and thats about it. Any of you that have been in the smartphone world for a while will know this. Hell sometimes ATT wont push any updates for a phone at all.
I mean think about it. A phone is termed EOL after 4 months of ATT releasing it.
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I know its just crazy you would of figured this phone being 4g lol would have been perfect opportunity to run newer faster system
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I know its just crazy you would of figured this phone being 4g lol would have been perfect opportunity to run newer faster system
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T-Mobile was bad with updates except with the Nexus S.
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Samsung or ATT?
We don't know who is holding up the update, do we? It could be either Samsung or ATT. It's so frustrating that Ice Cream Sandwich is supposed to be released within the next few months and Infuse owners don't even have Gingerbread yet.

its the captivate all over again, over emphasis on updates(2.2 works fine for me), and a carrier that doesn't care about updates. why make the infuse their flagship and not push samsung to update it? i mean motorola got the atrix updated and att doesnt push that phone as hard, htc also got the inspire updated, att doesnt give a dan about that phone. but i really think it is samsung who wants to push updates only after a new device is released (sgs2!) and only because they want the new device to look beter the the "old" one

Bottom line here is simple: don't ever buy hardware in anticipation of future software releases (with the exception of a Nexus device). Once the device is sold the manufacturer really has no obligations to ever have anything to do with it again except for warranty services.

tyshemi said:
Ok there Guy could be early as next month but mostly points at October or November.
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Reread the first paragraph, Tyshemi. Ice cream sandwich will be released in Oct/November. Jelly Bean will be released AFTER that, and if you go by Google's usual schedule, it would probably be around February.

entropism said:
Reread the first paragraph, Tyshemi. Ice cream sandwich will be released in Oct/November. Jelly Bean will be released AFTER that, and if you go by Google's usual schedule, it would probably be around February.
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Doesn't matter when really a month two months its the fact that phone released at the same time as ours have seen nice updates and dome even two updates since launch. Its the fact that this was a eye opener for ATT you know a "look at me " phone that's going to need a time machine to catch up.
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All I see is too many phones coming, that the ave user will miss out on, because they are stuck on a 2 year contract, lol not everyone can afford to blow 300 plus every few months on the something new,
Truth be told I have an atrix ( which I love, great little workhorse ) and a infuse coming monday, Also have a droid incredible, and a inspire, and a few others laying around,
But the funny thing they all do the same thing, just some slightly faster than the other, etc.. right now even the droid incredible/nexus 1 still is plenty fast for gingerbread... and does everything those new dual core beasts can do.. for me its gonna boil down to design and the screen, much like when i used to shop for a pc/laptop.. <----hardly use those anymore, too. my 2 year old asus still runs like a champ. guess my point,. is choose what you like. dont get caught up in specs and hype. ..
rant over...