One of the main reasons I went with an Android Honeycomb tablet versus the iPad 2 is the deep level of Google account integration with Honeycomb. I was willing to overlook the lack of Honeycomb-based apps, knowing that Google would push it as they did O.G. Android (and that certainly paid off).
Oddly enough -- one of the few apps that you cannot even download for Honeycomb even though there is a pre-3.0 counterpart, is Google Voice. GV users on HC have to download an old, hacked version of the APK (to give you an idea of how out-dated, it is from before the GV app had push notifications).
How do we go about pushing Google to get HC users a working GV app, one that we can download from the Market??
I hate starting things like this, but the situation is dire (okay, not really, but still!). My plan is to tweet "Please @googlevoice push out a #Honeycomb compatible #googlevoice TODAY!" or "What does #Honeycomb and #iOS have in common? No native @googlevoice app!"
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I'm assuming everyone else's Gtab had some handango crap market installed by defualt. What on earth was Viewsonic's idea there? Is there a reason they didn't install the normal full market or at least have an option to use it?
And yes, I know I can get a fully functioning market. I've got it on TnT Lite 4.1.0
ViewSonic does NOT have the option to use the normal market.
At this time, Google does not officially allow the market on tablets. The way the market is supposed to work is that it allows each individual device access only to those applications that are compatible with it. Google says the current implementations of Android were never designed to run on tablets and therefore won't give the tablets market access. Once Google releases Android 3 (Honeycomb) which is designed specifically for tablets it is expected that tablets will then have official access to the market or a brand new market designed specifically for tablets.
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Google has to license a device to use the Market. For whatever legal/business reasons, Google has only licensed one or two currently available tablets like the Galaxy Tablet. The market fix here is unofficial and unapproved.
Is there a way to fool the market into thinking this is a galaxy tab?
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Essentially, it works like this. Android is Open Source but Google Apps (Gmail, Maps, Market, etc.) are not. Anyone can use Android on their device for free, but to use Google Apps they must license them from Google. Google is concerned about a phone version of Android being used for tablets, so they refuse to license Google Apps to tablet makers until 3.0 comes out. Galaxy Tab is a special case and I suspect it was done under protest, but perhaps Google was willing to use Samsung's device to test the market's readiness for an official Google tablet.
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Stupid on google's part IMO. Open should be open, 100%. I do realize they have to deal with the phone nazis though, so I suppose I'm not that surprised.
Regardless, I'm loving my Gtab so far. I'm hoping to eventually get Debian running on it if the boot process is open enough, which it seems to be.
I suppose, but at the end of the day they have so little control over Android, which is their brand. I sometimes which they had more. Especially when I see how few pure Android devices there are.
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One of the main reasons I went with an Android Honeycomb tablet versus the iPad 2 is the deep level of Google account integration with Honeycomb. I was willing to overlook the lack of Honeycomb-based apps, knowing that Google would push it as they did O.G. Android (and that certainly paid off).
Oddly enough -- one of the few apps that you cannot even download for Honeycomb even though there is a pre-3.0 counterpart, is Google Voice. GV users on HC have to download an old, hacked version of the APK (to give you an idea of how out-dated, it is from before the GV app had push notifications).
How do we go about pushing Google to get HC users a working GV app, one that we can download from the Market??
I hate starting things like this, but the situation is dire (okay, not really, but still!). My plan is to tweet "Please @googlevoice push out a #Honeycomb compatible #googlevoice TODAY!" or "What does #Honeycomb and #iOS have in common? No native @googlevoice app!"
One of the main reasons I went with an Android Honeycomb tablet versus the iPad 2 is the deep level of Google account integration with Honeycomb. I was willing to overlook the lack of Honeycomb-based apps, knowing that Google would push it as they did O.G. Android (and that certainly paid off).
Oddly enough -- one of the few apps that you cannot even download for Honeycomb even though there is a pre-3.0 counterpart, is Google Voice. GV users on HC have to download an old, hacked version of the APK (to give you an idea of how out-dated, it is from before the GV app had push notifications).
How do we go about pushing Google to get HC users a working GV app, one that we can download from the Market??
I hate starting things like this, but the situation is dire (okay, not really, but still!). My plan is to tweet "Please @googlevoice push out a #Honeycomb compatible #googlevoice TODAY!" or "What does #Honeycomb and #iOS have in common? No native @googlevoice app!"
I LOVE Gvoice. Google has said they are working on it. I don't know what is taking so long, but if you search the forums you can find a newer modded apk that works with honeycomb.
I'm sure the official app for 3.x will be sick.
You don't even need a modded apk it works out of box. I just set it top sync every five minutes and it works like a champ
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One of the main reasons I went with an Android Honeycomb tablet versus the iPad 2 is the deep level of Google account integration with Honeycomb. I was willing to overlook the lack of Honeycomb-based apps, knowing that Google would push it as they did O.G. Android (and that certainly paid off).
Oddly enough -- one of the few apps that you cannot even download for Honeycomb even though there is a pre-3.0 counterpart, is Google Voice. GV users on HC have to download an old, hacked version of the APK (to give you an idea of how out-dated, it is from before the GV app had push notifications).
How do we go about pushing Google to get HC users a working GV app, one that we can download from the Market??
I hate starting things like this, but the situation is dire (okay, not really, but still!). My plan is to tweet "Please @googlevoice push out a #Honeycomb compatible #googlevoice TODAY!" or "What does #Honeycomb and #iOS have in common? No native @googlevoice app!"
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I'm pretty sure google has already stated that they're working on it. But, on a side note, I'm using the hacked version of Google Voice and it's not ancient / outdated afaik. If anything, there may have been one new release since the version I'm running.
I would definitely support a HC Google Voice version, I'm just saying they're *supposedly* already working on it
Yup, while waiting for Google it doesn't hurt to use the "hacked". The "hacked" I'm using is the latest version, at least for my N1 and TF both running (0.4.2.24)
The HC version better be great to make us wait this long. With an awesome UI. Probably split-screen like the Mail app.
As we all know, Google does not work on our dinosaur. Actually, I do use it successfully with a "voice search assistant" widget that will place text recognized in the older Google voice on-line recognizer into Google App (Now). Direct use of Now's off-line recognizer will FC. Accepting this, Google Now Launcher and XGels also work just fine on the LG P500!
Seems most other voice apps will accept the older Google recognition chosen in settings->input&language or have their own implementation and work just fine! These include Hound (very ambitious, worth a try), Jeannie (says its "like Siri" but is actually older), and now Microsoft's Bing and Torq. Bing is quicker than Google. Torq is really cool if you like the shake&bake trigger. But none of these offer the functions of Now, that is, anticipatory results, predicting what you want (if you can accept being spied-upon ).
Cortana, Microsoft's Now and Siri competitor is supposed to do this? And it is not armv7-dependent. Not available and maybe not operative! outside the good old USA so I side-loaded off apkmirror.
No FCs. Got it set up, requested various cards (a la Now) and all. But I have never gotten anything in to or out of Cortana. Because of being expatriate? Or it cannot read the mic or get search results or cards--unlikely both of these!
Anyone tried this? Got it to work?
(Getting off the Google Play Service battery sucker and FC maniac would be a blessing. Cortana could be the first step. BTW, might check out other Microsoft offering that are OK on our phones: Next lockscreen overlay, Arrow launcher, etc.)
What's the best and more popular assistant for S7?
In my device I find S-Voice but it seems an old assistant.. Google Now maybe the most integrated with other apps and features... but what the new ones like Bixby and Google Assistant?
Does anyone use Google Now?
I don't use any assistant, in fact I've disabled all the info collecting settings for Google to the point the assistant won't work unless I turn them all back on again
Cortana from Microsoft is available on the play store too / apk install but as with Android, I kill that thing on Windows too, assistants are dumb and it's generally faster and more accurate to do everything manually anyway, and doesn't collect your data in the process
It's your choice, while I *need* an assistant driving my car to call, create reminders, send WhatsApp messages, SMS, etc
I'd like to perform only a few simple (hands-free) actions, you can easily do with Siri (iOS).
Google Now seems so poor.. so many times it doesn't understand what I say and put my request to google (web)... so frustating.. You too?
Yea, I've never found any voice recognition / assistant that can understand what I'm saying well enough for it to be any use, spend more time correcting and typing in the correct words than I would if I just did it myself in the first place
Siri is what you're looking for
Anyway Google Assistant (born inside Google Allo) should become the new modern virtual assistant improving the current Google Now. Unfortunately it's not available in Italian... have you tried it in English? (at first look it seems faster and more clever than Now)