Android branding question... - General Questions and Answers

Hello all
Was reading: go to 'android.com' then add '/branding.html' **
In particular #4 and #5 - uses of 'Android' and 'Droid' ...
Just want to check my understanding:
With #4:
I guess that means you can use Android/Droid as long as it is combined with other words? ie. you can't just call your app/blog "Droid" or "Android", you need to have words before/after it...?
and for #5:
Does that mean if we do use Android as part of the name we need the 'TM' sign after the word Android?
Reason I'm asking is i've just recently dived into android dev, and started a blog "random android stuff", which uses 'android' in the name. If i'm not mistaken, according to #5, this means I should be putting "random android(TM) stuff"... is that correct? (I'd prefer not too, it just looks odd :S)
Cheers,
pyko
ps. not entirely sure if this belongs here, but it didn't feel like it belongs in the Android forums since it isn't software/programming related.
** pps. can't link to the android brading url!

lol man i have no idea, but who cares if u use the android word in a topic, just use it!.xD

Google isn't going to care what you call your blog. Don't bother with the TM. The branding is mainly in regards to commercial use, not free and fair use.

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[Q] anyone know what the process scribble is?

i have a process running that says its called scribble... com.htc.mysketcher... anyone know what this is?
Judging from the name, I'd say it is likely to be an application or widget where you can scribble. Seeing how it is an HTC software, I'd say it is their Notes widget.
thanks for the response, that sounds viable but i don't have the notes widget installed .....
maybe it's this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696193
how i got this piece of delightful information:
1. i went to http://forum.xda-developers.com
2. i went to the forum-search (click on those gears next to the field in the upper right)
3. in the field with the label "Keyword" i entered the word "scribble"
4. i've hit the "search now" button.
alternative route:
http://tinyurl.com/3geghhg
brndklng said:
maybe it's this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696193
how i got this piece of delightful information:
1. i went to http://forum.xda-developers.com
2. i went to the forum-search (click on those gears next to the field in the upper right)
3. in the field with the label "Keyword" i entered the word "scribble"
4. i've hit the "search now" button.
alternative route:
http://tinyurl.com/3geghhg
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Thanks for your delightful information . now let me tell you how retarded you are:
1. i do not have a custom boot animation running
2. Upon first viewing your link to "delightful information" did you stop to think that maybe I wouldn't install this boot animation because it might not be the proper size for our screens?
3. if I had in fact installed this, don't you think I would have enough common sense to know what the process might be considering this would be the name of something I MYSELF had installed?
4. Try posting a useful comment instead of a smart**s one
Scribble is an htc app used for two things. The first is its an app that works with htc's stylus enabled devices (e.g. The flyer and evo view) to draw or "sketch" directly onto the screen. The other thing, and why its on our phone, is it is the app that facilitates htc's built in screen capture feature.
i can confirm screen capture, i took scribble out and bye bye screen capture
awesome, good info, thanks alot to the both of you!
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Thanks for your delightful information . now let me tell you how retarded you are:
1. i do not have a custom boot animation running
2. Upon first viewing your link to "delightful information" did you stop to think that maybe I wouldn't install this boot animation because it might not be the proper size for our screens?
3. if I had in fact installed this, don't you think I would have enough common sense to know what the process might be considering this would be the name of something I MYSELF had installed?
4. Try posting a useful comment instead of a smart**s one
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woah, calm down there. My post wasn't meant to sound like a "smart**s" one.
I just tried to help. Although, the lmgtfy might let you think that, i just added it for the giggles.
I truly apologize if my post offended you in any way.
I just wanted to show you, detailed as possible, how i got this (indeed delightful,
because information is always delightful ) information.
You were the one who opened a thread with "blabla scribble blabla"
without mentioning your ROM that you're using
the date you first stumbled over this process
what applications you have may installed or other modifications/configurations you made to your device
what research you've done to get additional information
and finally:
not sharing your research results in your post
You gave SOME information as an answer to my post, but not in your
original post. Why not?
Would you've shared more detailed information on your problem
in your original post, i might have not came up with such a "smart**s" reply.
And i am the one you call retarded. Nice move.
As i understood this forums, this place isn't meant for:
"I have a question xy, can someone give the answer?"
It's meant for:
"I have a question xy, i have done this and that to resolve it, but i still have some open points i want to clarify, can someone help?"
The difference is, that you SHARE the information you have, to PREVENT people come up with guesses (like i did).
Guesses will form up to rumors, rumors spread out, become an urban legend and
everyone will soon swear to god that he or she knows someone who had "xy" resolved by some urban legend... true story.
In addition, this place is not for:
"yo, the answer is bla"
it is for:
"yo, the answer is bla and i have this and that information to back up my claim, go and check up if this works for you too."
Instead of calling me "retarded" you could've simply stated in a proper manner,
that my given information is not useful at all, because of the resolution or something
else i could've easily checked myself but i did not, because i was in a hurry or whatever.
This would've improved my behaviour in this place, but now i am just frustrated
with some guy i don't even know just because i tried to contribute.
Sorry for using my crystal ball, it was foggy in there.
I guess i am back to reading this forums, instead of contributing to them.
[edit] fixed some of many typos ~.~
brndklng said:
As i understood this forums, this place isn't meant for: "I have a question xy, can someone give the answer?"
It's meant for: "I have a question xy, i have done this and that to resolve it, but i still have some open points i want to clarify, can someone help?"
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I think you're really reaching here. In a prefect world that'd be great but this is the real world. There really was nothing wrong with the OP! I understood it just fine and was able to answer the question with no problem. I also think that anyone that took 2 seconds to read it should have understood as well. Also if there were a rule that you had to post links to back up every answer then I wouldn't have even posted the correct answer because I don't have time to track down links for simple questions that I know, I know the answer to.
brndklng said:
Sorry for using my crystal ball, it was foggy in there.
I guess i am back to reading this forums, instead of contributing to them.
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Good idea.

[Q] Learning coding

I'm looking to learn how to code, mainly because its something that has always interested me but I have never done. I have no experience in it at all. I'm looking for a book that can set me up with the very basics in java (or is it better to start off with a different language?) and hopefully I can move on from there.
If anyone knows of any good books that could help me I would greatly appreciate a link to it.
Thankyou.
http://goo.gl/xB9rK
Why does no one use the search before opening another thread?
Ohnoez
http://www.google.com/cse?q=learn+c...ub-2900107662879704:fs7umqefhnf&ie=ISO-8859-1
Wut?
http://www.google.com/cse?q=learn+d...ub-2900107662879704:fs7umqefhnf&ie=ISO-8859-1
I seriously could not find an answer to your question by using the search function.
http://www.google.com/cse?q=learn+p...ub-2900107662879704:fs7umqefhnf&ie=ISO-8859-1
So even on sophisticated websites like this there are still childish idiots like yourself on them. Yes you're probably right in that I should have searched before creating a new thread, however obviously I didn't think of that.
Maybe next time you should try and show maybe at least an inch of maturity when posting. Oh and for someone who would like me to donate to them and buy/download their apps you're not going the right way about it.
I dont know if that because you joined before me or have more posts than I do, this makes you think you have some superiority over me or new members, but it doesn't and remember with every new member is potentially another donation to you for your work. So if you want to carry on alienating these member towards you then carry on but if you don't then you might want to re-think your mentality towards them, because personally I wont be donating or ever downloading any of you apps.
With that said, thankyou for the links.
SxcKieranGrr said:
So even on sophisticated websites like this there are still childish idiots like yourself on them. Yes you're probably right in that I should have searched before creating a new thread, however obviously I didn't think of that.
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What you are seeing is my lack of understanding for people creating new threads with topics that have been covered a hundredtimes over.
I'm merely calling you out for your obvious mistake of not using the search.
You made the mistake, deal with it.
childish idiots like yourself
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Thanks. May i call you lazy idiot?
SxcKieranGrr said:
Maybe next time you should try and show maybe at least an inch of maturity when posting. Oh and for someone who would like me to donate to them and buy/download their apps you're not going the right way about it.
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I don't want anything from you.
You want something from this forum, more exactly from its members.
You want an answer.
You did not pay anything for the knowledge available for free here, neither the time a member puts up to help you out.
What you could do is show some courtesy by using the search function to not waste the time of people who are willing to help out.
I dont know if that because you joined before me or have more posts than I do, this makes you think you have some superiority over me or new members, but it doesn't and remember with every new member is potentially another donation to you for your work. So if you want to carry on alienating these member towards you then carry on but if you don't then you might want to re-think your mentality towards them, because personally I wont be donating or ever downloading any of you apps.
With that said, thankyou for the links.
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Both my join date and post count are indirectly related to this.
It just means that i have seen too many threads like this, which could have been avoid by a few seconds of search.
What is more astonishing is that i still browse the question and answer forums to help people out.
Yeah maybe some people won't get the answer they wanted to hear, but hey you got your answer.
Im confused now, from looking around it looks like python is the most basic of languages but if i was to start with a dummy book for that, would it actually help me achieve learning java? I dont want to get the wrong book and be completely lost because I havent learnt the complete basics.
It seems like everyone says different things and I cant get a clear answer of where to start.
@Dark3n I'm not going to sit here and argue, you have your view I have mine let's leave it at that. If you would like to help me (which somehow i doubt) that would be great, thanks.
SxcKieranGrr said:
Im confused now, from looking around it looks like python is the most basic of languages but if i was to start with a dummy book for that, would it actually help me achieve learning java? I dont want to get the wrong book and be completely lost because I havent learnt the complete basics.
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The most basic language would be machinecode (ASSEMBLER).
But beleive me that it is really painfull to write and learn.
Python is a nice language to write in, no doubt.
But you should think about what you want to do with your programming skills?
Something Android related?
Then you should look at C for linux kernels and the lower levels of android.
or
Java for Apps and the higher levels of the android os.
If you want to learn java there is no advantage in learning python first, besides that you can program in python and java.
I would like eventually to create an app for android, which is obviously done in java but if i got even the most basic of java books would i still be lost?
Edit: I just remembered there was a thread similar to this one where i already had a lengthy discussion about this topic.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179816
SxcKieranGrr said:
I would like eventually to create an app for android, which is obviously done in java but if i got even the most basic of java books would i still be lost?
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Not totally lost, you will learn about variables, if statements, loops, classes etc. those things are all still valid when writing apps. Those somewhat remain valid through most of the programming languages.
But basic java does not cover connecting your java code with the android user interface or making use of any android feature (rotate display, sensors, telefon,gps,etc.).
But seriously you don't need a book. Of course you can get one if you really want to. I would probably search the amazon bestseller list for something on android programming (for dummies) which does not require previous programming knowledge.
You can also just jump into it, google for "android hello world tutorial" or something like that.
But the official hello world tutorial should do.
Should make you able to write your very first app pretty quick. It's only a "Hello World" app, but hey thats where everyone starts out.
Aside from the programming itself, knowledge of Linux and *nix orientated operating systems would be useful. Terminal commands and such will prove invaluable if you take application development to a professional level in the future.
C and Java are obviously what's mainly involved in Android. But if you want something simple to begin with look at HTML and CSS (which are basically just translation matrixs not languages).
DeviateDefiant said:
Aside from the programming itself, knowledge of Linux and *nix orientated operating systems would be useful. Terminal commands and such will prove invaluable if you take application development to a professional level in the future.
C and Java are obviously what's mainly involved in Android. But if you want something simple to begin with look at HTML and CSS (which are basically just translation matrixs not languages).
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HTML and CSS knowledge would help a bit with the android user interface, but not with the actual code of the apps/programs themself.
I would advise the OP not to start with HTML and CSS if he wants to get into the programming buissness.
Unless you are going to make webpages HTML and CSS takes you pretty far of the track.
HTML and CSS knowledge would help a bit with the android user interface, but not with the actual code of the apps/programs themself.
I would advise the OP not to start with HTML and CSS if he wants to get into the programming buissness.
Unless you are going to make webpages HTML and CSS takes you pretty far of the track.
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HTML and CSS, are two useful skills to have regardless. As you mention for interfacing, and also for the ability to work with Web Apps in the future. For myself learning Javascript and PHP has certainly helped with getting into Java/C.
Certainly HTML/CSS aren't related to learning Java and C but it's a good entrance point to coding in general. Although you yourself may see it as sidetracking, it can help some not to jump in at the deep end.
I wish the OP the best of luck.
Hey dar3n, I had posted a similar thread as well, minus all the attitude, but I agree it does get posted alot, after talking to u and searching around a bit. Why dont u get someone to make a sticky post in one of the newbie rooms, or the q&a. Start a sticky discussion and I bet half these posts dissapear.lol

*** ~ List Of All The Best Apps For Each Type/Function, Please ~ ***

Hi! Updated to 4.1.2 after lots of pain -- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2571305 -- not sure if there's anymore updates you should do
It deleted all my apps, settings, everything when it wasn't suppose to...
Best launcher to download? Just one please.
And the rest of the other kinds of apps?
Links are helpful.
I cannot believe that I'm getting almost zero help as to what are the best apps. For this simple problem. So I made a list that anyone can edit (wasn't sure what site to put it so I put in on google spreadsheets). It's a gift to the droid community!! --
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Au_G8juRoIiqdGtURlFqVEdzcHhPdk84NXFyNmVUdHc&usp=sharing
far from completed
Please include links or other really good support when recommending an app that you've meticulously tested (in comparison with other apps of its kind) for inclusion.
You received no help because your question doesn't have an actual answer, or rather: every answer is equally valid as it's a highly subjective question, and the answer depends on each user. Besides, it's open ended (you're asking for *every* single app category out there) and shows a lack of research from your part.
About your rant on that spreadsheet, where you basically say that people pretending there's no "best" don't understand the meaning of "best"... Perhaps you should revise your definition first.
best
of the most excellent, effective, or desirable type or quality.
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All that is superlative, and subjective. How do you define that? Obviously it depends on what each user wants. You could say "if an app can do everything, then it's the best!" - but what if it lacks speed? Or security? Or something else? There's always a trade-off, one app cannot be suitable for everyone.
Your list is nice, but it's for you. Other people will disagree. I'd actually recommend discussing those apps your like in this thread, for example, if you want to.
With all that in mind, and considering your question is open ended, I'll try to give you what you need to answer your question yourself (because no one else can.)
You can find a list of launchers here (a quick Google search showed me that.) Obviously, some newer launchers may be missing since new launchers come out often (you can contact the OP if you find any.) I can't help you about "the rest of the other kinds of apps" because I don't know what those are.
If you have something more specific in mind (*what* *you* want app X to do, no "what is the best X,") do ask and give the necessary information and someone will help you out if they know.

Custom/reliable rom/operating system

So I am going to post this here, because the development section is ferboten to people trying to offer useful suggestions. Geez, I hope this is the right section.
Let me set it up. ANDROID IS BASED ON THE LINUX KERNEL. Everything, and I mean everything after that fact becomes android and bloat. Given this as the basis of all things android, I have a simple set of guidelines that should be used to create a solid, reliable, bullet proof operating system for devices able to use the android operating system.
#1. Create the kernel boot section of the basic platform that supports the very basic hardware features, including touch screen, radios, power/charging/battery management, wifi, bluetooth, nearfield, audio, microphone, s-pen,etc. Basics only. Root access is standard and can be turnd on/off just like developwer functions. No special tricks or addon hoops to jump through.
#2 At this point STOP. Every single process or service to be run on the device from this point forward should be able to be individually selectable - or not. Yes, I understand that individual services or apps may have dependancies to other processes and that thouse need to be functional in order for a particular app to work. That is why, each additional service or app must list the dependencies and in the selection process, the installion will be required to verify you have the proper services installed and functioning, if not to list them and allow you to make the decision to proceed. Viola, we have NO MORE BLOAT WARE.
#3 Make selecting additional services/apps selection process a menu driven, tag selectable process. Make the unselection process smart to verify and identify the other apps dependant on the item you are killing/removing.
#4 Allow a built in snapshot option to capture the entire system as you have customized it for yourself and allow it to be backed up to external memory with the ability to bring it back, AT WILL. With no big hassles.
Those 4 items are a good start. By themselves alone, it would put all of us in the drivers seat of controlling and living with our devices.
I am aware that such a system is not for everyone. It does require some basic technical understanding of the process. But for the vast majority of users, I am certain, that an a la carte system is far superior to the bloated monstrosities being forced down our devices.
I would appreciate any refinements to my suggestions.
The silence is deafening. It has been days. Kind of says something, don't you think?
I am so very happy (not) that these boards a compartmentalized to the point where you can't get through.
Pretty much a waste of my valuable time, especially considering the fact that if my suggestions where applied, people would be clamoring for an installation with those features. I guess there is not much true "developer" in xdadevelopers anymore.
Funny guys, with the pay to remove ads spam here. Really? Why? For what.
I leave here disappointed. Not angry. Just sad.
I'm not a developer so I have nothing valuable to contribute to your suggestions in your original post but I can offer an observation regarding your perception of the level of contribution to your thread and that is the fact that is particular area of the forums probably isn't the ideal spot to have a discussion such as this. You figured that out already so sure you can call me Capt. Obvious if you wish but I'm just pointing out that yes the forums are compartmentalized (as you've stated) in such a way that development for each device is separated out. This development is centered around AOSP based ROMs or "stock" ROMs (using manufacturer released source) so if you're looking to have higher level discussions about what AOSP should look like then deep down at this device specific level probably isn't where you want to be. So there's that . . . then there's the fact that for this particular device you can basically hear a pin drop in the sub-forums as it is since nothing much is going on by way of development.
Where specifically such a discussion would see more input I'm not sure, perhaps the main general discussion section?
Thank you for your sobering reply. I get frustrated. Already had my post bounced out of "wrong" forum while trying to speak directly to "developers" (i wanted air quotes because the term does not accuratly describe its target) So I tried this. The note pro 12.0 is still the best hardware giving the ipad a run for its money. The problem its monkeyshines kiddie software running it, or not running, or barely running it. ANDROID, indian word for crappy wannabe software, developed by clueless kids.
Again, thanks for the gentle nudge. I appreciate someone willing to conduct a conversation
Are you looking for an Ubuntu or SUSE type of setup?
I think what you are looking for is similar to apt-get type of installs, I could be wrong of course. This might be helpful for many "users". I think one of the barriers is that there are slight differences between the models of tablets, and creating the logic to put in for the sub-dependencies might prove problematic. You might get more answers to this possibility by asking one of the developers directly and sharing with them. Not a developer myself.

Can you be interested in a new keyboard type?

hi, I would need feedback and some advice on this topic, is there a need to change the way we enter data via our touch-screen?
the qwerty model keyboard, as functional as it is, doesn't prevent us from fully exploiting the flexibility that a touch screen offers?
Do you already know of any applications that are trying an innovative way?
something like this -> h__ps://78.media.tumblr.com/4b793885c31132b1db6a1bbcc517d0a4/tumblr_inline_n4t4ws6F821r0z1sd.gif
I have not found one so I made one, I developed a new app to enter data via touch input, i developed it for android system and allows you to completely customize the system with which to enter data; what does that mean?
means that every touch on the screen becomes a valid point for data entry and each of these various characters/actions/suggestions change positions and dimension based on different parameters, such as number of touches on the screen, screen size, screen orientation, screen definition, type of data to be entered, dictionary used.... too complicated? the app is currently in its final stage, and I am now developing a python library that allows you to create pkg of configurations;
What I would also ask you would support a crowdfunding campaign to complete this app and its supporting site?
crowdfunding campaign isn`t allowed on XDA
Forum Rules
8. Donations.
As a user, you're allowed to ask for donations in your signature as a thank you for your hard work, however donations up front are not allowed. This forum is about sharing and not about getting paid to do something... that is what your job is for.
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xanthrax said:
crowdfunding campaign isn`t allowed on XDA
Forum Rules
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the fact is that there is no fundraising campaign, and there will not be until I have finished all the work, and it will take a long time; the post I created was not to raise funds but to get an answer on what I think a big limit that we still carry behind, I wanted to open a discussion about what alternative to qwerty users believe should exist; if I expressed myself badly deleted even the post, it is not a problem : )
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the fact is that there is no fundraising campaign, and there will not be until I have finished all the work, and it will take a long time; the post I created was not to raise funds but to get an answer on what I think a big limit that we still carry behind, I wanted to open a discussion about what alternative to qwerty users believe should exist; if I expressed myself badly deleted even the post, it is not a problem : )
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I did not say you started a campaign, I just pointed to the rules that a further discussion won`t derail towards crowdfunding, that`s all.
You are more than welcome to discuss anything else related to development and also post links , screenshots or anything wich can help you.
I also can move this thread to the Android General discussion section if you want, off-topic is basically non-development related so , your choice, just let me know
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I also can move this thread to the Android General discussion section if you want, off-topic is basically non-development related so , your choice, just let me know
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if this will increase the volume of discussion seems to me a good idea, thx

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