Actually, not my phone but a friend's. I was trying to restore it to stock with Odin in order to flash Cyanogen, however Odin was being a real PITA. Through numerous attempts, Odin would refuse to finish the restoration process, often hanging at sbl.bin or Setting PIT file. I tried at least ten times to get it to flash correctly. The final time I decided to let it sit overnight and flash, just in case. When I got up this morning though, it was still hung up. I unplugged the phone and pulled the battery like I had done multiple times the night before, so that I coould give it one last try before I went to work. But this time, the phone wouldn't go into download mode. I had been using the USB and 3 button combo method, but nothing this time. The phone shows no signs of life at this point, and I really don't have anything short of a JTAG left to try on it. Now I have to buy my friend a new phone.
Has anyone else experienced this kind of terrible performance from ODIN? And is there anything other than JTAG I can try. If there is someone out there that can fix it with JTAG, I would also pay money for that. I don't have the soldering skills necessary to fix this thing.
They sell the pre made jigs you can buy, just search for it and you will find plenty
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The battery doesn't charge in download mode, the battery could very well just be dead. Pull the battery, reinsert it and plug in the phone to charge it, if all it does is get really hot and never shows any sign of life that is a brick. Check your PM.
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Through numerous attempts, Odin would refuse to finish the restoration process, often hanging at sbl.bin or Setting PIT file. I tried at least ten times to get it to flash correctly.
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Can't really blame anyone but yourself for that one.. If it hung at sbl.bin and you managed to not brick it, you dodged a bullet.
Anyway, sounds like you dodged several bullets and then the inevitable happened. A jig won't help, and you're correct in your assumption that JTAG is your only way out. Fortunately for you, one of our fellow captivaters is still offering (at least to my knowledge) a free JTAG service. You should contact him to see if he'd be willing to restore your device, his name is connexion2005.
For future reference, don't flash back to stock unless you really need to. And when you do, don't flash an image that includes bootloaders. If you have bootloaders that work (3 button combo enabled on 2.2- bootloaders or 2.3 bootloaders), use a non one-click odin with an image that doesn't include sbl.bin or boot.bin; otherwise you're just taking unnecessary risks.
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They sell the pre made jigs you can buy, just search for it and you will find plenty
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I got one off eBay for 10 bucks. Probably the best investment I've made as I have encountered about every brick situation you could imagine.
This may sound stupid, but maybe trying to flash GB bootloaders with ODIN(not one-click) could work? Exhausting all options before sending your phone in or having somebody JTAG would be preferable.
+1...they are well worth the money if you do any ROM flashing!
I have same problems before. 3 button combo method didn't work at all. No JTAG at that time.
When you plug your phone to computer, make sure it still can detect "SAMSUNG Android USB composite Device", but not "Unknown devices".
Even I wasn't on download mode or recovery mode, the odin able detect my phone as COM port then I was using Odin3 v1.8. then I put "galaxys-bootloader-JVB.tar.md5" to bootloader since I already have 2.3.3 rom before.
Another "dad, my friend has this problem" thread!?
For future reference, use Heimdall and read instructions thoroughly and multiple times. I just started using Heimdall when I made my move to flash gingerbread again when the KF1 ROM came out and I love it. Regardless how well a program works though, it's only as good as the person operating it. There are TONS of people here far more educated than me when it comes to flashing anything, but I have never bricked, or soft bricked even (yet) and I flash a decent amount.
If all else fails, I did have good luck with Josh @ mobiletechvideos (haven't posted enough times to be allowed to post the link, but he's on youtube. He's also here as connexion2005) he was able to unbrick my phone for $50. The post office does not seem to like to deliver mail from him to me, but I'm typing this on the phone he unbricked.
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Josh @ mobiletechvideos rocks!
He unbricked my Captivate!
There is not a problem with odin! Why do people always say don't use odin because it will brick your phone. You have to use it correctly. Make sure before you even open odin that the computer recognizes your phone and you have all of the correct drivers, etc. installed BEFORE even messing with odin. Also be sure to connect to a usb port that is connected to your hard drive to limit the chance of the computer not recognizing your device.
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Also be sure to connect to a usb port that is connected to your hard drive to limit the chance of the computer not recognizing your device.
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Your hard drive has usb ports?
You mean motherboard?
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Your hard drive has usb ports?
You mean motherboard?
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Yes, the motherboard! Was in the middle of a tech class when I posted that! Guess I can't multi task! Thanks!
Thanks for the feedback guys. I'm here when you need the impossible done to your Captivate...
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There is not a problem with odin! Why do people always say don't use odin because it will brick your phone. You have to use it correctly. Make sure before you even open odin that the computer recognizes your phone and you have all of the correct drivers, etc. installed BEFORE even messing with odin. Also be sure to connect to a usb port that is connected to your hard drive to limit the chance of the computer not recognizing your device.
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I've had odin fail a few times in a row on me when flashing gb bootloaders for i897. I had odin flashed countless times on multiple devices and computers. I'm pretty sure Odin isn't foolproof. Not everything can be contributed to pebcak, although the vary majority of problems posted on xda are...
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I've had odin fail a few times in a row on me when flashing gb bootloaders for i897. I had odin flashed countless times on multiple devices and computers. I'm pretty sure Odin isn't foolproof. Not everything can be contributed to pebcak, although the vary majority of problems posted on xda are...
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everytime odin has 'failed' for me, it's been a user error on my part. you need to follow the steps sequentially otherwise you have a higher probability of failure/brickage.
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everytime odin has 'failed' for me, it's been a user error on my part. you need to follow the steps sequentially otherwise you have a higher probability of failure/brickage.
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I honestly think that a lot of information here on XDA is only partial and this will get some into trouble. I know people say "search for it, it's here" and it is but the problem is that 10% of the time the information that someone is looking for is buried in a thread and the other 90% the search results list the same question being asked and answered with "it's here search" or "Did you search??"
There honestly should be posting guidelines, for everyone, I mean people take all the time to write disclaimers why not proper directions? Is there a standard Template? If I'm missing it please feel free to point it out.
For example:
This is a 9000/897/896 based ROM
This ROM needs the following bootloaders: ....
This ROM contains Bootloaders: Yes/No
This ROM will change your product code: Yes/No
This ROM requires a Davlik wipe to work: Yes/No
This Kernel is 9000/897/896 based
blah blah blah.......
If the information is readily and easily available then the amount of "dumb" question should go down dramatically and then there will be a "standard"
But then again it's Android/Linux, being fragmented is half the fun..
</rant>Just needed to vent...
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Yessss another dead captivate thread.
I think I'm gonna go die now.
I followed the video guide to install a custom ROM, in the development thread to the letter, and now my phone wont even turn on... (now that im thinking about it, I think I may have left the debugging mode OFF before I went to flash back to stock, maybe thats why?)
I got into download mode, plugged the phone into odin3 JF6 one click, it started and at some point during the process it said "removed" even though I didnt touch anything, and then i got a weird msg saying my device is not recognized, keep in mind the drivers were installed properly, and I had everything double checked before i flashed....
wtf do I do now? Cant boot at all or go back into download mode. this is my third galaxy, got it two days ago ffs.
My only 2 suggestions. Go to the Dev section and in the guides there is a method to make a USB Jig without solder or anything. You're out like $1 if it doesn't work.
Also, what rev is your phone? There's been some threads started saying the newer Rev phones, maybe 1010 and up crap out using normal One-click. Do check your rev level under the battery and do a search of the forums. I know I have seen the threads.
good luck.
1 reboot pc
2 use different usb ports (direct to motherboard)
3 open odin first as administrator
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My only 2 suggestions. Go to the Dev section and in the guides there is a method to make a USB Jig without solder or anything. You're out like $1 if it doesn't work.
Also, what rev is your phone? There's been some threads started saying the newer Rev phones, maybe 1010 and up crap out using normal One-click. Do check your rev level under the battery and do a search of the forums. I know I have seen the threads.
good luck.
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I'm not sure if I was looking at the right place, but I think its 10.12. I'll do a search and see what comes up, thanks for your help.
JayPhill89 said:
1 reboot pc
2 use different usb ports (direct to motherboard)
3 open odin first as administrator
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I'll try that, thanks.
Open Odin first then,
1. Remove your battery for 30 seconds, remove external SD card and SIM card
2. Reinsert battery.
3. Hold down both volume buttons and while holding them down plug the phone in.
It should get into download mode then. I bricked my phone and it wouldn't boot up at all and this worked for me.
On a side note, I have not had much luck flashing or doing much of anything on Windows 7 64 bit. I would suggest trying it on an XP machine if you have access to one.
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Open Odin first then,
1. Remove your battery for 30 seconds, remove external SD card and SIM card
2. Reinsert battery.
3. Hold down both volume buttons and while holding them down plug the phone in.
It should get into download mode then. I bricked my phone and it wouldn't boot up at all and this worked for me.
On a side note, I have not had much luck flashing or doing much of anything on Windows 7 64 bit. I would suggest trying it on an XP machine if you have access to one.
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I've tried every possible key combination out there and nothing works. I think my best bet is a Jig, unfortunately the source didnt have any transistors in stock so im SOL for now.
Use JIG ... It will be your last help.
Use it as a paper weight.
If you look up samsung captivate jig on ebay you will find some pre built. I bought one not long ago just to have and it works just fine.
I hope this helps. Best of luck to you.
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Sounds like you are a victim of the one size odin fits all debacle. You will indeed need a jig to recover and then you must use odin to flash jh2 or later firmware to your phone. Unfortunately, most guides still direct people to flash jf6 even though your situation comes up on a regular basis.
Check out this link for a jig. And there is a video to show you how to build one. Or mobiletechvideo guy sells them for 17 bucks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=889128&highlight=usb+jig
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Sounds like you are a victim of the one size odin fits all debacle. You will indeed need a jig to recover and then you must use odin to flash jh2 or later firmware to your phone. Unfortunately, most guides still direct people to flash jf6 even though your situation comes up on a regular basis.
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It seems to me like there's consistent irregularities with the entire process, its not uniform at all, which is very frustrating, every one faces different problems, and the solution is never the same.
Anyways, I went out and bought 3 resistors, turns out they were the wrong ones, I found out the colors werent the same of what I needed, but then that just goes to show you how difficult it is, its partly my fault i got the wrong ones, but someone like me who doesnt know much about hardware hacking, walks into an electronic store, faced with several options, is some times lost.
Oh well, I could've fixed it, had I got the right resistors, but then again, who was going to guarantee I wasn't going to kill it again, for the exact same reason I mentioned in the first post, because I need to consider a few things here, first and foremost, that I have a rogers branded device, and these are the ATT forums.
I called rogers and a replacement has been placed, I should be getting it by friday, or tomorrow if im lucky, with whatever comfort that brings, I still have several concerns, and now that I've basically rendered 3 devices to "almost" none-working condition (this one being an exception because I can "possibly" fix it) I'm not even sure how far I want to go.
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It seems to me like there's consistent irregularities with the entire process, its not uniform at all, which is very frustrating, every one faces different problems, and the solution is never the same.
Anyways, I went out and bought 3 resistors, turns out they were the wrong ones, I found out the colors werent the same of what I needed, but then that just goes to show you how difficult it is, its partly my fault i got the wrong ones, but someone like me who doesnt know much about hardware hacking, walks into an electronic store, faced with several options, is some times lost.
Oh well, I could've fixed it, had I got the right resistors, but then again, who was going to guarantee I wasn't going to kill it again, for the exact same reason I mentioned in the first post, because I need to consider a few things here, first and foremost, that I have a rogers branded device, and these are the ATT forums.
I called rogers and a replacement has been placed, I should be getting it by friday, or tomorrow if im lucky, with whatever comfort that brings, I still have several concerns, and now that I've basically rendered 3 devices to "almost" none-working condition (this one being an exception because I can "possibly" fix it) I'm not even sure how far I want to go.
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My first captivate went fubar within my 30 days and I damaged the nv_data.bin on my second captivate and was stuck with the test IMEI. Samsung fixed my second one for free. Now I'm at the point where I'm totally sure about what precautions I need to take to keep me out of trouble but I'm not sure if I want to risk it again, heh.
The cheap jig does work. It helped me when I accidentally unplugged my phone during an odin flash.
Yes, you make a good point. You will find that most of the guides are written by people like myself who have an early revision or a phone from the initial release. For most of us, from what I've read and experienced, our phones are really hard to brick, ie, button recovery always works, odin one-click works, etc.
I honestly don't know all the differences now between revs. The first hiccup was the phones missing button recovery/download, and now it seems that people are having issues using the Odin One-click that we have been using for months.
I would recommend with your next phone check the rev or manufacture date, then search the forums for people with similar or same revs that have been successful at flashing and find out what they did.
good luck
@bobby
I wasnt trying to diminish the help that the guides provide. The work that went into creating them is certainly appreciated. The problem arises when so many people just tell newcomers to flash with x version of odin without considering the changes that have occured in the newer builds.
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@bobby
I wasnt trying to diminish the help that the guides provide. The work that went into creating them is certainly appreciated. The problem arises when so many people just tell newcomers to flash with x version of odin without considering the changes that have occured in the newer builds.
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I agree with you completely. I tend to take it for granted that button recovery works for me and that good old odin one-click does too. It seems we need to start collecting data and making new guides.
Something like,
If you have rev, 1006, 1007,1008 go here,
If you have rev 1009 to 1012 go here,
etc.
latest update,
Two cables, and six resistors later, my phone won't go into download mode, lol, I'm not even sure I did things right, I'm gonna try stripping the same cable, used in one of those videos on how to make a jig, I still have three extra resistors.
I'm starting to think its because of it being with rogers. im gonna search the forums.
A micro usb breakout board is the simplest method for constructing a jig.
Wow, I guess I'm lucky that the used Captivate I picked up for my gf is an older one at 1007. Root procedure for her went without a hitch.
From stock rom, all set up and in daily use, WITHOUT ROOTING first.
Put clockwork update.zip on her sdcard.
Reboot into recovery.
Reinstall packages twice to get into clockwork recovery.
Wipe data/factory reset.
Flash Cognition.
Profit.
She's been using it this way for two weeks and loves it so much more than stock.
What was so complicated about the procedure you followed? Or was it the same as this but it just didn't work?
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...and now that I've basically rendered 3 devices to "almost" none-working condition (this one being an exception because I can "possibly" fix it) I'm not even sure how far I want to go.
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I think you may have a good point. Eventually your carrier will stop replacing bricks for you. If you still have the inclination to play with flashing, investing in a jig would definately be a wise investment and if I were in your shoes, I wouldn't flash anything without one. I made a jig for myself before I ever flashed anything but luckily I have never had to use it, probably because I took the time (about a month and a half of trolling around here reading.) to research what all was involved with what I was about to jump into. Just something to consider in case you want to try again. Good luck!
So I lent my brother my nexus s that had cm7 on it. He got into the clockworkmod, went to mounts/storage, and proceeded to format everything (bootloader, boot data, etc. everything in there) he said he thought that would fix the force closes, I figured no biggie, but now I can't even get the phone into download mode and I have no idea what to do, the phone will simply not turn on
wow.... dont even know why he would do that.
rule 1: dont lend people your phone.
and i dont know why you would try and get into download mode, Odin isn't the first thing you want to go to.
1. turn the phone off (if it isnt already)
2. hold volume up + power
... what happens? does bootloader mode pop up?
- plug your phone in your computer's USB
- does the sound for USB plugged in occur?
- does computer detect it?
Can't access fastboot.
Phone sometimes recognizes it and says this device is not recognized and it couldn't install the usb driver, sometimes when i plug it in it does nothing.
Didn't want to lend it to him, had no choice. I told him he should have just fixed the permissions on the phone, but then again he's not exactly android literate.
thats just dumb on his part.. i dont know why he would try and mess with your device. if it has problems, just ask you first.
its probably bricked if you cant access download or bootloader... definitely bricked if the computer is unable to detect it
your only way out of it is to get a replacement
In Device/Drivers of windows under Unspecified there's this:
SEC S5PC110 Test/BD
says drivers are not installed
Anybody out there with a solution?
I think there is more than one driver you can try, though I've never flashed anything in Windows (Linux already comes with the driver ), so I don't know for sure. I think I've seen people mentioned a few drivers before, try search for all the "brick" threads here.
Easiest solution might be to download a Linux live distribution (f.e. ubuntu) and run fastboot from there. No need to install any drivers.
Kicking him in the nuts will probably make you feel better... I don't know if it'll fix your phone though.
jruweaver said:
Kicking him in the nuts will probably make you feel better... I don't know if it'll fix your phone though.
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lmao!!!!!!!!!!
KryPTiCk0d3 said:
lmao!!!!!!!!!!
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While funny, it doesn't help one bit.
I would try the various methods to get into download mode and use Odin to fix it ...you might be screwed tho
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While funny, it doesn't help one bit.
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Unfortunately with the state your phone is in it is probably going to be the best advice you get.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000175
any chance that this could help you?
Ddi you ever get your phone sorted ? I'm now in the same situation !
Yes, hit up http://www.mobiletechvideos.com/blog/?page_id=970 For 50 bucks they'll fix your phone and ship it back to you in no time. They got my phone on a Friday, I got it back on either Monday or Tuesday. Of course they're based in Texas and I'm in STL so it could differ for you, but the point is, they're fast, reliable, and professional.
Thanks for that - I'm based in Ireland but I'll give them a shout and see if we can do business......
Thanks a million for the reference PUMA. Please contact me when you are in need of a brick fix. I fix hundreds of Galaxy S / Samsung / HTC variants and several others in a brick of nearly any scenario. I've devoted a lot of time to providing and almost unseen service to people in need versus parting the phone out or trashing it.
Hey folks. I`m new to Android, but I am well versed in how to manipulate Linux systems and I've got a new SGH-i896 that Ive been itching to tear apart.
I've never touched a phone in regards to hacking, and I know there's a lot of system stuff that can be screwed up while tweaking. What I'd like to do is explore these custom ROMs and see which is best for my specific phone.
If anyone could talk me through a good first option for trying out, it would be great. I see so many options, but I'm not seeing a popular choice, or a safe "for-dummies" ROM. Thanks for any help.
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Hey folks. I`m new to Android, but I am well versed in how to manipulate Linux systems and I've got a new SGH-i896 that Ive been itching to tear apart.
I've never touched a phone in regards to hacking, and I know there's a lot of system stuff that can be screwed up while tweaking. What I'd like to do is explore these custom ROMs and see which is best for my specific phone.
If anyone could talk me through a good first option for trying out, it would be great. I see so many options, but I'm not seeing a popular choice, or a safe "for-dummies" ROM. Thanks for any help.
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Welcome!
Now first you must get your tools (Android SDK, Odin3) and study them a bit before flashing anything. Nothing is safe but if it's done properly your chance of bricking your phone are close to none.
Look in the Dev and Q&A for sticky post regarding flashing roms and how to start.
I would recommend you stay away from Gingerbread roms (2.3) for the moment. It requires to flash a new bootloader and you need a good understanding of how to flash and how to use Odin3 options before you venture there.
For your first flash i would recommend flashing Firefly rom but your free to select the one you prefer. Always read the first post of the rom to learn what it offers and don't.
Happy flashing
JavaMac said:
Hey folks. I`m new to Android, but I am well versed in how to manipulate Linux systems and I've got a new SGH-i896 that Ive been itching to tear apart.
I've never touched a phone in regards to hacking, and I know there's a lot of system stuff that can be screwed up while tweaking. What I'd like to do is explore these custom ROMs and see which is best for my specific phone.
If anyone could talk me through a good first option for trying out, it would be great. I see so many options, but I'm not seeing a popular choice, or a safe "for-dummies" ROM. Thanks for any help.
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What he said^^^
I would start out reading a lot. Start here and here. Use this program to get started. This will allow you to flash FROYO. You can now flash FROYO custom ROMs.To flash Gingerbread go here read post 1 to get directions after flashing Stock FROYO. Once you have the GB bootloaders installed you should be able to flash custom GB ROMs. I stress read a lot before flashing. You can brick your phone easily if you don't. Good luck and welcome to the world of ROM flashing!
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Welcome!
For your first flash i would recommend flashing Firefly rom but your free to select the one you prefer. Always read the first post of the rom to learn what it offers and don't.
Happy flashing
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I'll second firefly, very nice smooth rom, i used it for over 2 months.
I already had the Android SDK, as well as SuperOneClick. I went ahead and downloaded Odin3, and the Captivate Toolbox and the other linked tools. Thanks for the links by the way. I've also already taken a look at how to flash a custom ROM. I'm going to read a bit more and settle on a choice by tonight.
Thanks for all the help.
Having a bit of trouble on my first go
Hey folks. I went over the reading material that was provided and I went ahead with this guide
[link]http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884364[/link]
I got through to the point where I had to use Odin. When I clicked start on Odin, it ran through the predicted cycles and claimed to be successful. My device won't mount now though. I can't see it in my computer anywhere, and I'm not sure how to continue.
Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks.
You were on stock 2.1 or 2.2 ?
What rom did you flash ?
What files did you put in Odin and with what boxes checked ?
Is the phone booting normally ?
What part does not mount ? (It's not detected by windows but charges when you plug in the usb cable ?)
Settings>applications>usb settings. Make sure thats set to mass storage.
stock has that checked to kies by default.
Let me clarify:
My phone is currently only sitting at the battery screen, with an empty battery image and a spinner.
I can bring up an AT&T splash screen that says "World Phone" below it if I follow the instructions to recovery mode, but it still does nothing.
I'm afraid I've bricked the phone, and I'm missing some clue as to why.
if something comes up on the screen it is not bricked.....i hate that word
you are not bricked. any sign of life at all means not bricked.
what odin did you use? im guessing odin one click, which means you have a newer build phone and it bootloops when odin one click is used.
get into download at this point you may need a jig, once in download mode use this package and you will be ok (you are canadian right?)http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=979133
Thanks for the tip pirateghost.
Hmm, I might be offended a little.
You thank the guy who pops in just to correct your jargon and not the guy giving you a link to help you?
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Hmm, I might be offended a little.
You thank the guy who pops in just to correct your jargon and not the guy giving you a link to help you?
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LOL
damn, studa, tryin to drag me into the dirt
I'm wondering if there's a way to do this without a jig. I don't really want to get that involved if I don't have to.
If I do have to, I will, but let's try to keep this in the software department if we can.
Thanks to everyone who's been helping out here.
Lol I was only joking
no harm done
there are a couple button combos to try if those don't work a jig is needed, but it's a very cheap and easy process to make one not "involved" at all or under 10 us dollars if you were to buy one.
Alright button combos to try:
Both volumes held plug in usb cable.
Cable in, pull the battery, hold the volume buttons while reinserting the battery.
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I'm wondering if there's a way to do this without a jig. I don't really want to get that involved if I don't have to.
If I do have to, I will, but let's try to keep this in the software department if we can.
Thanks to everyone who's been helping out here.
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-Remove the battery
-Remove the sim card
-Remove any external sd-card
-Pop battery in
-Hold BOTH volume buttons (on the left) and plug usb cable.
Are you back in download mode ?
Okay, I tried all the button combos, and it did nothing different.
I've only got the one micro usb right now. I guess that means I've got to go out and get another, along with some resistors?
This sucks. I guess I should have remained happy with the Android Rogers gave me.
If you insulate the resistors well enough you don't need to chop up the cable... You can touch the leads of the resistor loop thing you made directly to pins 4 and 5 on the phones usb port. Granted that way takes ALOT more fiddling with to work, but you don't have to hack a cable.
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If you insulate the resistors well enough you don't need to chop up the cable... You can touch the leads of the resistor loop thing you made directly to pins 4 and 5 on the phones usb port. Granted that way takes ALOT more fiddling with to work, but you don't have to hack a cable.
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So if I get the proper resistors, protect my thumb and finger, and apply them carefully to pins four and five on the phone's connection, it works the same way?
Does anyone know what will actually brick a Charge. I heard flashing the same radio twice would brick an incredible, or possibly any HTC phones, so I certainly knew to avoid it.
I kind of get the impression that Odin can take care of anything. Although I did read one thread about a perma-brick.
Is there a certain action that people are confident would perma-brick a charge.
Also, Heimdall doesn't seem to work on this thing, I dont know why I still see people in the Charge boards talking about it.
Selecting the Phone option as opposed to the PDA option in ODIN should do the trick..
Danwsim said:
Does anyone know what will actually brick a Charge. I heard flashing the same radio twice would brick an incredible, or possibly any HTC phones, so I certainly knew to avoid it.
I kind of get the impression that Odin can take care of anything. Although I did read one thread about a perma-brick.
Is there a certain action that people are confident would perma-brick a charge.
Also, Heimdall doesn't seem to work on this thing, I dont know why I still see people in the Charge boards talking about it.
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things I've seen brick samsung phones (former Fascinate and current Charge user here) Using anything other than the PDA and PIT buttons in Odin, flashing corrupt files in Odin, Odin/CWM flashing numerous different roms one after another without wiping data/cache, sometimes going from voodoo to non-voodoo roms and not disabling lagfix can have bad consequences...
other than that tbh I haven't seen much brick a Charge, lots of soft bricks though (had a few myself)
Danwsim said:
Does anyone know what will actually brick a Charge. I heard flashing the same radio twice would brick an incredible, or possibly any HTC phones, so I certainly knew to avoid it.
I kind of get the impression that Odin can take care of anything. Although I did read one thread about a perma-brick.
Is there a certain action that people are confident would perma-brick a charge.
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Yeaper, the above suggestions would probably do it. I have soft-bricked mine a few times, i.e., boot-loop, seriously looooong lag on start up, etc. nothing major. I pulled the battery, restarted and everything was fine. I am a noob to most rooting seeing as how the only other phone I rooted was my Droid Eris. But I am finding that my Charge is almost bulletproof!!!!!
Rooted Charge
Gummy Charged 1.9.2.3RC
kejar's voodoo lag fix enabled
Flashing firmware from another samsung phone should do the trick.
I've heard that if odin fails while writing the boot img you are permabricked
You aren't bricked until you can't get into download mode.
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Perma-Brick?
The above mentioned items will actually perma-brick a phone, like send back to the company, calling insurance, buying a new phone perma-brick?
I've been reading through the forums and found a number of instances of severely F'ed up devices, but I have not found someone with a Samsung and access to Odin who was unable to get the phone fixed.
The HTC forums have numerous people who seem to brick phones.
I am a former incredible owner. The incredible was nice, but the battery was terrible.
d-loko said:
Selecting the Phone option as opposed to the PDA option in ODIN should do the trick..
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I've heard of people that have recovered from that. You just need to reflash the package in the PDA spot and it should fix it. But then again, why tempt fate?
hoppermi said:
Flashing firmware from another samsung phone should do the trick.
I've heard that if odin fails while writing the boot img you are permabricked
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Only if it includes boot.bin and sbl.bin, and even then, you may still be able to recover. Some people recovered their fascinates after flashing full at&t firmware to them, they just had to use the download mode jig to be able to get into download mode to fix the issue.
Really, the only way to perma-brick is to corrupt the flash chip, or flash corrupt boot.bin/sbl.bin files. Anything else you should be able to recover from. Flashing incorrect boot.bin/sbl.bin files may be able to be recovered, but it will be more difficult to do.
Danwsim said:
Does anyone know what will actually brick a Charge. I heard flashing the same radio twice would brick an incredible, or possibly any HTC phones, so I certainly knew to avoid it.
I kind of get the impression that Odin can take care of anything. Although I did read one thread about a perma-brick.
Is there a certain action that people are confident would perma-brick a charge.
Also, Heimdall doesn't seem to work on this thing, I dont know why I still see people in the Charge boards talking about it.
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I think Pandora radio bricked mine, It was working fine til i used it. I believe it may have been disconnected from the headphone jack while it was playing or something.
Flashing with the battery pulled out is a baaaad idea. It isn't perma-bricked at that point, but it is very close. The only thing that I was able to recover with after lots of attempts was the SamsungPST Flash utility and the Stock EE4 that goes with it AND the .pit file to repartition the device.
I've tried a few different roms on my SGS2 but I'm definately not an expert. I tried going from cyano to darkys but ran into some trouble. I googled around and found that I needed the "resurrection edition" as a middle man.
The instructions told me to flash with odin with the re-partition box checked, something I've not done before. Odin appeared to hang on "setting parition" (or similar) so I left it for an hour or so. Unfortunately still there when I came back.
I pulled the battery and was going to try without re-parition checked. The only problem is that now I can't do anything, at all. I don't get a charging icon on the screen, had the battery our for an hour now and still can't get anything to happen.
Have I irrevocably bricked the phone? It's still within the warranty period but of course they'll probably reject that on the grounds that I've fiddled too much.
I'm praying someone can help me with this or I'm gonna be one sad panda.
Yeah I'm similar to you, doing this stuff as a noob. It's not a good idea. If none of your buttons work, there are some tricks that can get it back into download mode browse the android forums for that a swell, otherwise try USB jig. Your phone seems pretty hard-bricked most likely will have to send yours to the manufacturer when you **** up like this.
can get into download mode? if you can then your safe
a couple questions
:what op is your pc win7 win vista mac linux
:can you get into download mode vol down>power>home button press and hold
:is odin correct for your pc?
:you dont know odin your ment to do stuff with odin b4 cwm
:if all fails try getting into download mode with a usb cable plugged in
if nothing works try the usb jig you can hunt around on utube
if not send it to samsung saying kies update failed and you get the jist
hope ive helped
oh by the way wrong thread
Thanks for the replies guys,
I'm running Windows7 64bit
Nothing happens with any keypresses at all
I've used that version of odin to flash the phone before, just not with the re-partition box ticked
I've since read that using the re-partition box is a big nono. Unfortunately I must have been following instructions written by someone as nooby as me From some other posts etc it does seem like it needs jtag to fix it.
Just called my operator who I also have insurance with, told them that kies ran an update but the phone never rebooted. I was all ready for a fight with them but he instantly said that he'd have a replacement sent out within 24 hours. Very surprised it was that easy, they'll be getting some wine at xmas
thanks
iwasinnamuknow said:
Thanks for the replies guys,
I'm running Windows7 64bit
Nothing happens with any keypresses at all
I've used that version of odin to flash the phone before, just not with the re-partition box ticked
I've since read that using the re-partition box is a big nono. Unfortunately I must have been following instructions written by someone as nooby as me From some other posts etc it does seem like it needs jtag to fix it.
Just called my operator who I also have insurance with, told them that kies ran an update but the phone never rebooted. I was all ready for a fight with them but he instantly said that he'd have a replacement sent out within 24 hours. Very surprised it was that easy, they'll be getting some wine at xmas
thanks
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lool oh well maybe you can unbrick your sgs2 and have 2 sgs2s:
hehe well once i've got the new phone going (so I'm not losing business), maybe i'll play around with the old one. Wouldn't be the first "spare" sgs2 I've managed to get