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Call me old fashioned, but I expect a $500 device to work out of the box. It's also been pretty sad watching everyone's desperation in either getting a stable CM7 build or a kluge of the Gingerbread pre-release to try and make all the phone's functions work properly. I've been pretty vocal about my dissatisfaction which I know has irked some of you. There were others, but they already bailed when their remorse periods ended so as we all jump ship there should be fewer "haters" and nothing but the positivity you seek here in G2X-land.
I was going to wait until 6/8 and get a Sensation but the phone re-booted in the middle of conference call to Asia and that shall we say was the end of that. I'm getting an international SGS2 instead. It'll arrive next week. It's an HSPA+ phone so it can do 21MB down on AT&T. To get on to AT&T's network I'm getting an Infuse 4G for $99 on 5/15 which I'll eBay for $400 easily. I'd be lucky to get $300 for the G2X once the Sensation's out and the comments on this forum certainly don't help the resale value. The SGS2 is $725 so the net after selling the Infuse will be $425 - $75 less than the G2X. I also won't have to be dependent on any carrier any longer and will get updates directly from Samsung.
Unlimited voice, unlimited messaging, 4GB of data, and tethering is $99 a month and AT&T has terrific international data plans when you're roaming where T-Mobile has none. Also, I'd rather pay $8 a GB if I go over my limit than be throttled to dial-up speeds by T-Mobile. My relationship with T-Mobile's always been love/hate but the G2X did me in. I'll still lurk and comment on this thread and if you have any SGS2 questions just ask. Also, modding may not be a dead horse. Paul posted the SGS2 firmware this morning.
See you guys in a year on AT&T-Mobile
P.S. - Gamers beware of the SGS2, it's been determined the Mali GPU doesn't support x-frame
X frame????
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X frame????
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Oops. I was doing two things at once. X-Plane. It has a bigger impact than just one game, I was just too lazy to elaborate.
Here's the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1068567
Thanks for posting your life story. Did you really need to type all that just to say you were buying the GSII? Nobody cares how you are going to acquired it. I am getting the GSII aswell but you don't see me making posts about it. I'm thankful that I got a working G2x from day one because I can tell you right now. Its the best Android device I've ever used. I haven't had a single problem with it. Lastly, every phone has problems when its released. If you don't think so then u haven't been in this game long enough. The G2x wont sell for anything less due to these forums. I think your giving these forums a little to much credit if you think they a driving phone sales on eBay down. LOL...where do you guys come up with this stuff?
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Yea that gpu is going to bite a lot of gamers in the ass. This is why the SGS2 was never an option for me. I'd love that screen paired with a tegra but I don't see it happening soon.
Tegra looks like the most future welcoming chipset IMO which also deters me from the Sensation.
Sorry to see you have so many problems but you do what you have to do. I always have low expectations of stock rooms although the 2.2 stock did run great for me. I flash not to fix issues but to flash. I actually have more problems running custom then stock but that's half the fun because I know that it helps to get to that point we all would like.
So while a slight backlight bleed isn't viable for some, a gimped GPU for locked boot loader isn't for me. Aside that, the rest can be fixed and patched. That I can handle.
Also, good luck getting anything out of Samaung. Those guys never update their phones. Gingerbread was promised last august and they still don't have it.
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And it's posts like this from people like you that I'm going to miss the most on the SGS2 forum. And comparing your phone history to mine, you've severely underestimated my experience.
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And it's posts like this from people like you that I'm going to miss the most on the SGS2 forum. And comparing your phone history to mine, you've severely underestimated my experience.
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I never said u weren't experienced in the phone world but if you are then you should understand no device is perfect within the first month of being released. Christ, my Vibrants GPS was never perfect and I used it for 8 months. I just don't understand why people are expected to get a perfect device when they buy them as soon as they become available. Like it or not, we are the beta testers.
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Bye...bye...
The post would have held more water...if more of your points were valid that is..
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Hope you enjoy your new toy.
Pretty good phone but G2x is better
Don't let the door hit ya....
Sold that phone to get this one and have no regrets.
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I got my phone on 6/19 so I have a lot of history in this forum. I've posted lots of positive comments which still hold true. I like the phone's form factor, I like the way it's built, I like not having a UI, and it's fast as hell. I get a new phone every few months. I've never had a new phone that didn't have bugs - to your point, it's to be expected. My issue with the G2X (and I know there are those with different experiences) is that the basic connectivity functions are unreliable, at least in it's current state. The LCD does kind of irk me, especially since the iPad2 announcement, but I could have overlooked that. It's a pain in the ass to change carriers and swap out the phone so soon and I really wanted to like/keep it. But I can't wait weeks/months for it to be 100% stable.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. If you want a phone that isn't meant to be tweaked then you are better off with an iPhone. You will never be happy with any android phone because android is meant for people who want to personalize and make their device theirs.
The g2x is a guiness world record holding powerhouse. It doesnt help your case to write a pompous and useless post.
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Sold that phone to get this one and have no regrets.
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Really, where did you get a Galaxy S II? I'd be interested in your experiences. Since it doesn't work on T-Mobile, I assumed you used it on AT&T. Where did you use it and what were your data speeds?
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I got my phone on 6/19 so I have a lot of history in this forum. I've posted lots of positive comments which still hold true. I like the phone's form factor, I like the way it's built, I like not having a UI, and it's fast as hell. I get a new phone every few months. I've never had a new phone that didn't have bugs - to your point, it's to be expected. My issue with the G2X (and I know there are those with different experiences) is that the basic connectivity functions are unreliable, at least in it's current state. The LCD does kind of irk me, especially since the iPad2 announcement, but I could have overlooked that. It's a pain in the ass to change carriers and swap out the phone so soon and I really wanted to like/keep it. But I can't wait weeks/months for it to be 100% stable.
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Why do you need to wait weeks? Just keep exchanging it until u get a working phone. It really is easy. I promise. I also get new phone ever couple of months and I've had to exchange everyone I got. That's exactly why I always purchase at a brick and mortar rather than online. I don't know why your living with a phone that doesn't work but I wouldn't stand for it. Go exchange it and hopefully you get a perfect one like me. Only took me 4 exchanges to find a perfect one. Lol
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Great....thanks for keeping us up to date.
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One thing is forsure, there will always be those that have a bad experience with a device no matter how super, duper, incredibly awesome it may be. Looks like you're one of those who will go down as having a bad experience with the G2x. You aren't the first, you won't be the last. And you can bet your ass there will be plenty of users over in the Samsung forum having the same frustrations with their SGS2's that you had with your G2x. That's just the way it goes with these things.
When I first got my Droid X I had a lot of problems with it. It took me a while to figure it out... it was my first Android device so I had to learn everything from scratch. But I finally got it to the point where it was a flawless device (all it was missing was an unlocked bootloader) for me. But that wasn't the case for every DX owner... plenty of the members of the Droid X forum took their device out of the box and the damn thing worked flawlessly without them having to tinker with it or do anything at all in order to 'fix' it. It might have been a little hard for me to swallow since I was experiencing so many random reboots, terrible lag, and constant freeze-ups... but it was true all the same. My poor performing DX was the exception, not the rule.
Same thing goes for the G2x. This time I'm on the other side of the fence (thank God). My G2x doesn't have the LED bleed issue, or the rebooting issue, or ANY issue for that matter. It has worked flawlessly right out of the box for me. And it's only been available here in the states for 3 weeks, so if there are still a few bugs to work out of CyanogenMod7 for it, that certainly isn't the end of the world. Nine months after getting my Droid X (at launch) and CM is nowhere on the DX's radar, and likely never will be. So just the fact that CM7 is working at all on this device is more progress than I was able to get out of my Motorola the whole time I used it (I still have it, just in case someone sneaks the bootloader keys out of Motorola HQ's I'll be first in line to beta test CM on it!).
Anyway my point is, if you like a device enough you'll stick it through the rough spots and see if you can't get it to work well enough for you to enjoy it. If you don't like a device enough to do that, then get another device, period. No need to explain yourself, you're a grown ass man. You can buy an iPhone, Win7, Blackberry, Palm... hell even a dumbphone if that's what you want. If it's a SGS2 that you want, go for it. I hope it makes you happier than this device obviously did not do.
But going out like you chose to do isn't going to go over well, I'm sure you understood that when you were typing that post out. What are you hoping to accomplish here, do you think you're going to convice those of us who are having a great experience with our G2x's to suddenly realize we got it all wrong? Should we all pack our LG's up and throw em on ebay pronto now too just because you didn't get along with yours?
No OEM is perfect, but for what it's worth I respect LG and Samsung the most out of all the manufacturers because they both refuse to give into the pressure the carriers have been putting on them to lock down their bootloaders. HTC comes in third in my book because while they do lock their bootloaders, at least they don't encrypt them. Basically they play both sides of the fence. They lock the bootloader to make it look like they're on the carriers side. But they don't encrypt them because they know that hackers will easily unlock them and still be able to develop on them at will.
What I don't get is your statement that you'll get your updates from Samsung... since when has Samsung rolled out updates in a timely fashion? For me LG is my top choice because they left the bootloader completely unlocked, and they left it vanilla Android. It's basically a Nexus device. Samsung would be my second choice since they don't lock their bootloaders either, but I'd have to get rid of touchwiz the second I got it.
All in all, I hope you have a good experience with your SGS2. No need to attempt to make us feel stupid for keeping our G2x's though. If we like our devices, why can't you just leave this community and wish us the best so that we can do the same to you?
Its safe to say Barry that no one cares. See ya
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Call me old fashioned, but I expect a $500 device to work out of the box.
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Really? Um...good luck with the SGS2.
Wow. This forum has become the dear diary of threads. I guess since the galaxy is almost a $1000 it won't have issues. You said you doubt the g2x will be worth $300 when the sensation comes out. Lol that was a insult. I guarantee the g2x will have more support and roms than the sensation. How can Cyan develop a rom, when he said himself he won't if it has a locked bootloader. I like what the galaxy can do but once it launches in the US and carriers strip it down like the original it wont hold its international value. Ill ride it out with the g2x. I'd rather return until I get a close to perfect instead of paying mortgage prices on a phone.
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I have two days left to return my S4G and I was wondering do you guys think I should keep it and my contract extension, or return it because there is still no fix for the low volume for the notification and phone ringtones , no S-off yet and still nothing better than the battery killing NoLED to replace the lame stock LED notification.
Just interested in your guys opinion. Thanks
I believe you should keep it. Just ask an Incredible s owner. They were in the same position as we are. Just take a look at them now!!!!
If you don't like the phone, why keep it? I don't think we can decide for you.
I also think you should keep it.
Root will come sooner or later and it is a great phone
Return it for what though , what does tmobile offer that is even close ,nothing IMO , the only phone that is worth going back to is the HD2 , I'm just gonna be patient and wait to see what happens ,I like this phone more and more every day
I think you should decide. Why ask people who have no tie in to you or your happiness in life? I'm fully happy with mine. Some other guy probably isn't. So we would have 2 different answers for you.
Honestly up to you if your hot happy with it return it and save your upgrade, I think Samsung hercules is comming out sometime in September? But yeah if your not happy return it you can always get it again to if you miss it
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I think you should decide. Why ask people who have no tie in to you or your happiness in life? I'm fully happy with mine. Some other guy probably isn't. So we would have 2 different answers for you.
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It's not a "life choice" LoL I was just valuing the opinion of others
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Return it for what though , what does tmobile offer that is even close ,nothing IMO , the only phone that is worth going back to is the HD2 , I'm just gonna be patient and wait to see what happens ,I like this phone more and more every day
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I would go back to my rooted N1 IF I was to return the S4G
I would return... In fact I did! Back to G1. Waiting for SGS2. No bootloader = No sale.
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wow, to the G1? thats a HUGE downgrade i was on the fence about selling the S4G, going back to my HD2, but i will be patient, HTC has had my business for 8 years now, and i have faith that they will come through, i just gotta stop refreshing XDA and FB/htc
EDIT: lol forgot to post my actual comment keep the phone, its amazing and will only get better with age, the N1 is a prime example of intial headaches turning into pure joy
again though, you be the judge, its all a preference of style and function
Good question, here's my honest take...
I'm in the same position as you, but I have until next Friday to decide. If HTC doesn't come to their senses and fix the bootloader lockout then I'm taking it back. I agree with one of the other posts that it IS a good phone, but the Sense UI is bogging it down and being a super user I want to use my phone's full capabilities! If I do take it back, I will wait to see whether T-Mobile wakes up and adds SGS2 to their line-up and get it with my upgrade or HTC fixes their issue (as stated) and I'll go back and get a new Sensation. Although I'd hate to go back to my Vibrant until then, I think I'd be happier. But in the end it's up to you friend...
i am in the same boat my friend. i have a few days to decide. i was already pissed that the phone had less RAM and a smaller battery than the EVO 3D. Then I found out that the New MyTouch is going to have "the best" camera on a smart phone. Trying to figure out what makes the sensation a true "flagship" phone right now. It is the best phone on t-mo right now in its category, but i re-upped early. HTC limited the specs of the Sensation intentionally. Just don't want to regret my decision in December because i wanted to stop using my laggy hd2 (running Android). decisions, decisions...
I am in similar decision. For one thing, I am not impressed by the speed over my Captivate (1ghz hummingbird-overall phone speed not 4g vs 3g). Second, the wifi seems to disconnect a lot (set to never). I was having all kinds of Force Closes on apps, so I factory defaulted the phone. Seems better now, in that respect. But the wifi issue is irritating and I don't think I am getting enough out of this phone to warrant the ETF on my Captivate.
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Return it for what though , what does tmobile offer that is even close ,nothing IMO , the only phone that is worth going back to is the HD2 , I'm just gonna be patient and wait to see what happens ,I like this phone more and more every day
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You nailed it! Loved my HD2, and the Sensation is as good as it's going to get right now.
same boat here. I do not dislike the Sensation, but for some reason I find that I can do all the basics much easier on my rooted Vibrant. If this phone was unlocked I would definitely keep it and let the developers do their thing. I just do not believe HTC will be making a move anytime in the near future. But I do agree, without the SGSII, not much else on the horizon (a 4.5 inch phone is just too big)
Ok, so I have a G2x right now with some wear and tear (scratched and knicked up corners from dropping several times). Do you guys think that trading the G2x plus 200 bucks is a good deal for a brand new in-box factory sealed Sensation? I am just fed up with the G2x and the overheating and freezing and the frequent battery pulls I have to do on it. I just need a dependable reliable phone and the G2x has yet to fill that need. I've tried several ROMs and the phone still has issues even with the new GB update. What do you guys think of this deal? I don't want to get ripped off. Let me know, thanks.
Not a very good deal, what if the phone isn't legit for one. And you have thar many issues still with the phone you should be able to go to tmobile and get a deal from them for the sensation. I wouldn't do that deal at all, unless I was giving you the sensation lol.
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I tried getting something through t-mobile but i used my upgrade in april for the g2x so they told me all they could do was swap for another g2x or pay full retail for a sensation ...Is there anyone at t-mo that can get me a better deal? Thanks.
I'd do it. I'm so fed up with my G2x that I'm thinking of getting what I can for it on e-bay and going to another carrier. I don't care if the sensation is laggy, as long as it works and HTC doesn't jerk me around any longer. Just my opinion.
Hell yea that's a good deal and if anyone says differently....Their high! Even if you end up getting a bad Sensation, you could still sell it for a lot more than you would ever get out of your G2X. Go ahead and do the deal man. You wont regret it. The Sensation just got the unlocked bootloader so game on. I've been using my Sensation for 2 months and rarely ever pick up my G2X anymore. I'm actually getting ready to throw it on Ebay since I really have no use for it anymore. I was using it to play around with ROMS but now I can start doing that on my Sensation which will be getting Cyanogen any day now.
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I'd do it. I'm so fed up with my G2x that I'm thinking of getting what I can for it on e-bay and going to another carrier. I don't care if the sensation is laggy, as long as it works and HTC doesn't jerk me around any longer. Just my opinion.
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Just out of curiosity what rom are u running? Since updating via LG tool then wiping and installing xboarders rooted GB my phone is pure awesomeness, not a single issue (though mine didnt have many to begin with). Just saying, if u haven't tried that its definitley worth a shot because most people have had positive experiences with it; I definitley have.
Sorry for getting off topic but it would be sad to see sumbody jump ship if they could still be saved
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I have tried MIUI, CM7, EB 1.06 based off of v21e, Xboarders 2.3.3 based off of V21e, and Faux's AOSP 2.3.5. While the LG 2.3.3 update has definitely resolved some bugs I still get the overheating, and the sleep of death. I still find myself doing battery pulls once a day. This is with all of these ROM's I just mentioned. It's very unfortunate because I honestly want to like the G2x but it's difficult.
I know that there are some good ROMs out there and I've looked into installing them but I shouldn't have to install a ROM on a $500 device to make it work properly. It is not like I am a phone super user. I surf a little, make some calls, and play a game or two but now instead of a reboot, it just stops working. And all of the "The Update Will be soon" then nothing announcements have killed all of Tmobile's credibility with me. Not to mention that LG released an "Update" apparently without even telling Tmo, then Tmo followed, and not I'm hearing rumors that the update was discontinued (not confirmed yet). . . . Seriously? F, it. I'm taking my ball and going to home.
Htc sensation has more and worse issues than the g2x.. I traded for the sensation just like you, went through 3 of em.... That phone has 3 types of screens, bad I mean horrible wifi, screen won't respond after a week, dust, etc.... The only thing better on the sensation is the camera.....
I had 3 sensations all same issues, 4 g2xs one had dust, one dead pixel and the other two work great as the first few did but with dust and pixel.......
I love my g2x over my old sensation anyday... G2x ftw
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Htc sensation has more and worse issues than the g2x.. I traded for the sensation just like you, went through 3 of em.... That phone has 3 types of screens, bad I mean horrible wifi, screen won't respond after a week, dust, etc.... The only thing better on the sensation is the camera.....
I had 3 sensations all same issues, 4 g2xs one had dust, one dead pixel and the other two work great as the first few did but with dust and pixel.......
I love my g2x over my old sensation anyday... G2x ftw
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Bummer man guess u just got a lemon. I'm sure I would hate my phone after all that too lol
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I have tried MIUI, CM7, EB 1.06 based off of v21e, Xboarders 2.3.3 based off of V21e, and Faux's AOSP 2.3.5. While the LG 2.3.3 update has definitely resolved some bugs I still get the overheating, and the sleep of death. I still find myself doing battery pulls once a day. This is with all of these ROM's I just mentioned. It's very unfortunate because I honestly want to like the G2x but it's difficult.
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Just get another g2x that don't do that...there out there, mines one..another coming today I hope its good too, if not ill keep replacing cause I know theres good ones cause I've had a few....
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Just get another g2x that don't do that...there out there, mines one..another coming today I hope its good too, if not ill keep replacing cause I know theres good ones cause I've had a few....
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Just like there are G2X's out there with no problems, there are also Sensations out there with no problems. I would say both have there issues on a large scale but which phone bow adays doesn't? I had to go through 5 G2X's to get a good one and 3 Sensations to get a good one. My last Sensation that I've had for over a month has absolutely zero issues and definitely not any of the ones you ran into. My Sensation can actually get a WiFi signal further away from my house than my G2X can and out of the 5 Sensations I've seen in person, not one has had dust under the display. I did have 2 Sensations that ran into the touch screen issues but the one I'm using now and my wife's who has had hers for 2 months have never devoloped any touch screen issues. My wife usually complains about stuff not working on her phones but this is the first one she hasn't complained about. Ill agree that there is a lot of people who have certain issues but there is more who have no issues. Just because you got 3 bad phones doesn't mean everyone of them is bad. Hell, if that was the case, I would have gave up on the G2X long long ago before I even got my Sensation.
In the end, a brand new Sensation is worth a lot more than a used G2X. I should know since I stand to lose more money on my G2X than any other phone I've purchased at retail price.
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For those of you guys who get replacements, do you pay the 20 dollar fee to get your phone replaced? Last I called to get a replacement for my dad Nokia, they said that we had to pay 20 bucks just to get a replacement. I mean after 4 or 5 phones, that's a lot of money!
Oh and 200 bucks sounds like too much. A Guy here on Craigslist was asking plus 80 for a brand new in box just got delivered Sensation.
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For those of you guys who get replacements, do you pay the 20 dollar fee to get your phone replaced? Last I called to get a replacement for my dad Nokia, they said that we had to pay 20 bucks just to get a replacement. I mean after 4 or 5 phones, that's a lot of money!
Oh and 200 bucks sounds like too much. A Guy here on Craigslist was asking plus 80 for a brand new in box just got delivered Sensation.
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Minneapolis/ st paul?
I saw it too
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Dude its really user preference, and user experience, like I for one love my g2x I think its awesome, was gonna get keep the sensation I had, but I didn't I honestly think the g2x is better in every way except maybe camera cuz the sensation snaps a pic with zero lag, anyways ur gonna do what your gonna do regardless I say get another g2x, I know u had bad experiences with them, but listen to me when I say there is good g2x's out there, I had mine since April, been great ever since, and don't forget every phone has its problems at launch there's no perfect device .. good luck man
I'm just torn right now this is tough. I'm hearing love stories from people with problem free G2x's and horror stories from those with buggy ones. Vice versa with the Sensation.
+1 once you get the sensation you will have to deal with new sets of problems of which btw the sensation has, and are way more wide spread than G2x.
I hope that you find a good phone that works for you.
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Dude its really user preference, and user experience, like I for one love my g2x I think its awesome, was gonna get keep the sensation I had, but I didn't I honestly think the g2x is better in every way except maybe camera cuz the sensation snaps a pic with zero lag, anyways ur gonna do what your gonna do regardless I say get another g2x, I know u had bad experiences with them, but listen to me when I say there is good g2x's out there, I had mine since April, been great ever since, and don't forget every phone has its problems at launch there's no perfect device .. good luck man
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I'm just torn right now this is tough. I'm hearing love stories from people with problem free G2x's and horror stories from those with buggy ones. Vice versa with the Sensation.
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Would you deal with new sets of problems or would you deal with the ones you already have?
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My main concern is dependability. Does the Sensation freeze overnight, or overheat, or require a battery pull once daily? If the Sensation's problems don't hamper dependability and reliability then I will go with it.
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My main concern is dependability. Does the Sensation freeze overnight, or overheat, or require a battery pull once daily? If the Sensation's problems don't hamper dependability and reliability then I will go with it.
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Nope, nobody has complained of any problems like that on a wide scale. Maybe here or there but its very far and few between. Nothing like it is on the G2X. I really don't know what problems people are talking about on a large scale with the Sensation but the only one I know of on a large scale is the WiFi deathgrip when holding the phone in landscape. Everything else is petty bull**** like the screen bleed on the G2X
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We all know the thunderbolthas been plagued with problems since its launch. First the launch date was delayed. Now the GB update that has been delayed for months gets released and pulled immediately due to more bugs. I have read about people who complain so much that they are given free replacement phones of their choosing. I would like to do the same and try and get the new nexus phone. So I need your help with making a list of all the thunderbolt problems since launch so I can make a good argument for why I should get a new phone. Thanks guys!
Just to add my 2 cents
You have to remember that as with most forums, you usually only see the problems and not the ones with good units and that one or two people talking in a forum thread or maybe a handful of people posting multiple threads can make it seem alot worse then it really is. I have never had an issue with my bolt since getting it on launch. I was first on line at bestbuy and it has worked great since the moment I activated it.
Also the launch was not delayed. Neither HTC or Verizon gave a specific date on release. Everybody was basing the release off rumors and a mistaken bestbuy ad...
when you say 'new phone', are you trying to get Verizon to allow you to exchange your TB for something else?
if so, that's not that hard. you just need to call and complain a few times(bring up battery life & call quality - data speeds couldn't hurt to) and after a few calls & complaining about how you wish you never got this phone they should offer to exchange it for you so long as you got the phone somewhat recently.
if you bought the phone back at launch though then the most they would do(other then offer a warrenty exchange) is allow you to get a different phone at the upgrade price instead of full retail, then you'd still have your TB to sell on craigslist or something.
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We all know the thunderbolthas been plagued with problems since its launch. First the launch date was delayed. Now the GB update that has been delayed for months gets released and pulled immediately due to more bugs. I have read about people who complain so much that they are given free replacement phones of their choosing. I would like to do the same and try and get the new nexus phone. So I need your help with making a list of all the thunderbolt problems since launch so I can make a good argument for why I should get a new phone. Thanks guys!
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I can tell you right now, no amount of *****ing will get you the Galaxy Nexus.
And if you don't actually have any problems with your phone, and are just *****ing because you want something free, you should head to wall street, I hear a lot of that is going on there.
Good luck is all i can say. I went through 3 Droids and 4 droid 2s, and an iPhone (on their suggestion) and STILL had to pay full 2 year contract price for the T Bolt. VZW isn't like att you barely get anything for free EVER
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Good luck is all i can say. I went through 3 Droids and 4 droid 2s, and an iPhone (on their suggestion) and STILL had to pay full 2 year contract price for the T Bolt. VZW isn't like att you barely get anything for free EVER
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AT&T has to give things out for free just to get people to stay on their inferior network. Verizon knows if you leave, you will more than likely come back at sometime after you get fed up with inferior service lol
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So I need your help with making a list of all the thunderbolt problems since launch so I can make a good argument for why I should get a new phone. Thanks guys!
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I think it would be pretty funny if you get no helpful list of "problems"
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We all know the thunderbolthas been plagued with problems since its launch. First the launch date was delayed. Now the GB update that has been delayed for months gets released and pulled immediately due to more bugs. I have read about people who complain so much that they are given free replacement phones of their choosing. I would like to do the same and try and get the new nexus phone. So I need your help with making a list of all the thunderbolt problems since launch so I can make a good argument for why I should get a new phone. Thanks guys!
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So lemme make sure I understand this. You want a list of other people's problems, so YOU can get a new phone for free?
"I deserve a new phone because forum members are having these problems which makes me unhappy with my thunderbolt"
Yep, sounds like a GREAT idea.
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The thunderbolt was the best choice at the time and I don't see any reason to change it now. Nothing newer is too much better. I think the bionic looks and feels cheaper and that's before you consider the locked bootloader... major con for me... the grass ain't always greener. Just sayin.
My name is Revos I'm a recovering flashaholic running Liquid Gingerbread 3.0
Charge would be nice, but if I want one bad enough ill buy one. Trying to get one for free is lame.
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xTFGx said:
We all know the thunderbolthas been plagued with problems since its launch. First the launch date was delayed. Now the GB update that has been delayed for months gets released and pulled immediately due to more bugs. I have read about people who complain so much that they are given free replacement phones of their choosing. I would like to do the same and try and get the new nexus phone. So I need your help with making a list of all the thunderbolt problems since launch so I can make a good argument for why I should get a new phone. Thanks guys!
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You need to stop believing all the internet crap you read. I've had a couple of phones that were FAR, FAR worse than the Thunderbolt and I never got free upgrades to replace them. The people that say they did probably took an early upgrade on another line. I ended up going back to old phones with the POS devices. So yeah, if you think I calling them liars or misrepresenting the truth, that's EXACTLY what I'm doing. And I know for a fact none of them can prove it.
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You need to stop believing all the internet crap you read. I've had a couple of phones that were FAR, FAR worse than the Thunderbolt and I never got free upgrades to replace them. The people that say they did probably took an early upgrade on another line. I ended up going back to old phones with the POS devices. So yeah, if you think I calling them liars or misrepresenting the truth, that's EXACTLY what I'm doing. And I know for a fact none of them can prove it.
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The ONLY reason why they gave me a bionic is they tried to charge me twice for not returning a defective device two separate times. Even then I had to fight them for it, first they offered to pay my data for a month. I guess their logic was "sorry we tried to steal $1200 from you, here's $30".
There was no early upgrade or anything, I told the guy to just cancel my contact. I had no intention of canceling, look what else is out there. If you really think you can get a free phone just because of the issues you've had with it good luck.
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The ONLY reason why they gave me a bionic is they tried to charge me twice for not returning a defective device two separate times. Even then I had to fight them for it, first they offered to pay my data for a month. I guess their logic was "sorry we tried to steal $1200 from you, here's $30".
There was no early upgrade or anything, I told the guy to just cancel my contact. I had no intention of canceling, look what else is out there. If you really think you can get a free phone just because of the issues you've had with it good luck.
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That's certainly above and beyond a few complaints about a device that works otherwise! Wow... That's pretty screwed up.
Problems with the Thunderbolt (STOCK)
Now granted i dont know if verizon has pushed any radio upgrades, i do that myself and the first radio upgrade i got fixed my issue.
1. GPS takes forever to lock. I walk in with a friend tried to get him a discount and showed him how MY thunderbolt wil lock in seconds where the thunderbolt, charge and nearly every other android phone they have took over 5 minutes to lcok (i never locked before we left).
2. Battery life on the stock is disgusting in comparison to clean ROMs. (my opinin you shouldnt have to root the phone to get all the specs to work correctly)
thats really all i can think of.
My main issue with this phone is battery life when on a sense based rom (any sense based rom sucks battery life a really fat guy with a milkshake), but I have an upgrade on my account and am definitely grabbing a nexus when it comes out
God.... Please don't help this guy! This is stupid!
loonatik78 said:
God.... Please don't help this guy! This is stupid!
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^^this
*Sent from my BAMF'ing Blissed-out 'bolt sportin' Taykiin mods*
Lol its dumb but its life. I dont support it nor am i against it. I had HTC Touch Pro 2 i had for over 2 years. It was a fantastic phone for the era that the Iphone came out. Sure apps were very very few and far between but being able to get ROms that were similar to HTC's 2.1 or3.0 was awesome. The only problem i ever had with the phone was i was plagued with BSOD's constantly after unlocking. But as we all know its based on the phone you get, my brother and sister both had them and were unlocked overclocked and had 0 problems...again i know where the guys coming from we all play the system at one point or another to get what we want. He was just a little more blunt about it than most people would have been. Next time bro just be a little more incognito about the whole idea behind it. Its like Backtrack. Its a tool to "test your wireless security" and you know 80% of the people that use the tool are not testing their secruity with it.
It's threads like this that made me remember why I left in the first place. I had hoped things had changed... guess not...
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God.... Please don't help this guy! This is stupid!
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This... 1000 times, this.
I better get an ice cream sandwich after having to deal with your crap HTC. This device was full of flaws when I bought it. That was inexcusable after paying top dollar for it. Verizon (Ripoff Mobile, Inc.) was too uptight to do anything about it. I would not be surprised if all the official talk was nothing more than hot air in the end. At least developers are working on a version. I am so glad I finally had some time to get root permissions on this phone. Did you feel betrayed after buying your TBolt? To be honest, I would have bought a marked down model if I had of know ahead of time what was going to happen.
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why so pissy. My phone was perfect out of teh box, it is faster than any of my friends dual core phones, and I have true unlimited 4g, and why do you care if we get official ics, you will just use a rom anyway, not an ota
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I better get an ice cream sandwich after having to deal with your crap HTC. This device was full of flaws when I bought it. That was inexcusable after paying top dollar for it. Verizon (Ripoff Mobile, Inc.) was too uptight to do anything about it. I would not be surprised if all the official talk was nothing more than hot air in the end. At least developers are working on a version. I am so glad I finally had some time to get root permissions on this phone. Did you feel betrayed after buying your TBolt? To be honest, I would have bought a marked down model if I had of know ahead of time what was going to happen.
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Easy killer. My phone has worked mostly fine since day one. Sure there were some software issues (random reboots due to the LTE radio, GPS, the most annoying), but that is to be expected when you buy bleeding edge technology. This was the first Verizon LTE smartphone, EVER.
That being said, the device is still on par with other top devices today. I haven't upgraded, because I haven't found another device I like that much better than this. The Nexus is nice, but I'm not big on the light flimsy build of those phones, plus samsung is notorious for poor reliability. Motorola screen's have been awful so far, or I would have considered the Razr Maxx.
Bottom line...why don't you cry about it...
BTW, there is nothing special about ICS. Sure it's nice to have the newest thing, but there really isn't that much to get excited about. I still don't understand why honey comb and ICS got rid of the search button. I use that thing constantly.
I have to say I've been 99% happy with this phone since release.
The 1% was the odd rebooting issue I had for 4 weeks in aprilish.
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Honestly I've liked this phone since I first got it, battery life sucked but that was nothing rooting and loading a rom couldn't fix. Other than that I'm still happy with my purchase.
I especially like it cause me and my girlfriend got phones from a good batch, handles low voltages and overclocking even up to 1.8 (not needed though) perfectly.
Thanks to all the developers who have been developing for the thunderbolt since day one, and all that are continuing to do so!
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Bigandrewgold said:
why so pissy. My phone was perfect out of teh box, it is faster than any of my friends dual core phones, and I have true unlimited 4g, and why do you care if we get official ics, you will just use a rom anyway, not an ota
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Let's see.
1. The phone was the Flagship phone for LTE and was released with Froyo.
2. The phone was buggy at release and still shows some issues.
3. Not everyone's phone was "perfect out of teh box". Some of us had to get replacements multiple times to get a *good one*.
4. ICS does have improvements over Froyo and GB.
5. Official OTA release of ICS will allow devs to create much better ROMs for this phone, rather approaching it by piecemealing parts from other Official ROMs.
6. Lastly, this phone was sold at a premium price and VZW's/HTC's support has been lackluster to be kind about it.
Note: I don't know the OP from Adam, but your experience, like mine, is anecdotal and not indicative of all others. VZW screwed the pooch on the roll-out and
HTC screwed the pooch on the releases of updates, support and finally, by rushing the damn thing out the door before it was ready.
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3. Not everyone's phone was "perfect out of teh box". Some of us had to get replacements multiple times to get a *good one*.
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That's with any phone these days. I haven't had a single smartphone I haven't had to replace for one reason or another.
On a side note, the Tbolt isn't the only flagship phone with problems. The Galaxy Nexus has really bad call connectivity problems from what I hear, and that's supposed to be the MAIN function of a PHONE. lolz
All i will buy is htc. I know updates are slow to come. I also dont care. The newest isnt always the best, there are usually a fresh set of bugs to work out. That being said, the devs here and other sites give me enough variety to satisfy me. If you dont like the process, learn to code.
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I better get an ice cream sandwich after having to deal with your crap HTC. This device was full of flaws when I bought it. That was inexcusable after paying top dollar for it. Verizon (Ripoff Mobile, Inc.) was too uptight to do anything about it. I would not be surprised if all the official talk was nothing more than hot air in the end. At least developers are working on a version. I am so glad I finally had some time to get root permissions on this phone. Did you feel betrayed after buying your TBolt? To be honest, I would have bought a marked down model if I had of know ahead of time what was going to happen.
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I'm sure HTC is reading your post right now
If you care, go call them and say what you said directly as it will do far more good for you and for the community.
I moved onto a Nexus, but I still use my Thunderbolt for development testing apps I make. Not even the Nexus is perfect though as the internal antennas are not as powerful at picking up data. My db is usually 10-15db worse than the thunderbolt. However, I would not trade my Nexus for any other phone as I got tired of having to wait on HTC and Verizon for updates on the Thunderbolt.
i just lol at this thread.
Im an HTC fan. I got my tbolt on launch day and have never had an issue (not saying some havent) but I couldn't be happier.
Still have yet to find one phone on the market that has everything the tbolt has (not including dual core, which has not really impressed me) and still think it is a top 4g phone.
I would buy it all over again. We have received everything promised so far & it would be a nightmare for HTC to not give us ICS after they confirmed it...
I also have to say that Verizon did not screw up or delay the launch. There was never an official launch date given from them or HTC until the week before release, as is the norm with their releases. All other dates were made up by the internet and people.
HTC released about 6 updates to the phone between march and September, I think that is pretty good at keeping on top of it..
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Im an HTC fan. I got my tbolt on launch day and have never had an issue (not saying some havent) but I couldn't be happier.
Still have yet to find one phone on the market that has everything the tbolt has (not including dual core, which has not really impressed me) and still think it is a top 4g phone.
I would buy it all over again. We have received everything promised so far & it would be a nightmare for HTC to not give us ICS after they confirmed it...
I also have to say that Verizon did not screw up or delay the launch. There was never an official launch date given from them or HTC until the week before release, as is the norm with their releases. All other dates were made up by the internet and people.
HTC released about 6 updates to the phone between march and September, I think that is pretty good at keeping on top of it..
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Well said. People are never satisfied. I guess they think HTC should put out updates as often as some ROMs get updated...
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I got the TB for $49 bucks new when I dropped T-Mobile. Rooted it the day I got it home and have never had a single problem with it that I cannot blame on bugs in the ROM or me OCing the crap out of it.
Everyones phone is gonna be better or worse than the next guy. Did we get screwed by Verizon??? Show me where in writing the promise a full ICS upgrade and you will see thousands of TB owners lining up to sue the piss off Verizon and HTC.
If you are gonna stay up on the newest devices, Hopefully you are not paying retail for the devices, Shop around and you will be amazed at what you can find.
I have a galaxy nexus just sitting on stand-by cause i've had no problems with my tbolt, besides the dev slowing down i really have no problems with my tbolt and has been my favorite phone. while it would be nice to get ICS soon im not tripping about it, my contract for the thunderbolt ends in december much wait and see what comes out by then.
why is anyone bothering to respond to this guy? He doesn't like his phone, he needs to quit whining about it and get rid of it. No amount of "I love my phone!" posts are going to change his mind. They just bump this useless thread back to the top. Yes, I know I also just bumped this thread.
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why is anyone bothering to respond to this guy? He doesn't like his phone, he needs to quit whining about it and get rid of it. No amount of "I love my phone!" posts are going to change his mind. They just bump this useless thread back to the top. Yes, I know I also just bumped this thread.
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Lol, you did.
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The two people I know with a nexus have had quite a few issues with their phones.. biggest problems being being signal and when leaving WiFi they don't get data until turning their data off and back on... Point is what ever phone you go to there will be something that bugs you about it and the update that fixes your problem will never come out fast enough.. be happy for what you have..
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i never get tired of forum drama, except that it makes me crave ham.
I haven't had a problem since day 1. I got home, rooted it and put liquid smooth on. I've always been one to have a new rom every week but this one's been so good with battery life and everything that I haven't even tried another one. I love this phone. On another note, my brother got the same phone and has had problems. Just like any other electronic item, you might get a dud.