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[Q] Why only 323MB RAM total?

My new Samsung Galaxy S 4G has, to my understanding 1G ROM for system use, 512MB RAM for apps to run in, and an 8GB SD Card for storage.
I'm not understanding something about the setup though. The main question is I go to Task Manager, then RAM, and I usually am using about 250mb -- out of 323MB. 323mb?? Where the hell is the rest of my RAM?
Also when I install an app that can't install to the SD card for whatever reason, where the hell is it going? into my 512RAM? Into my ROM? When I click the Storage Tab, it says Internal Phone Storage 452MB/514MB. External SD Card 1.56GB/7.39GB.
So I'm assuming the ROM has a hidden section for the system, and leaves 514MB for phone apps.
I guess I'm mainly wondering why I only have 323MB to run things in. I have been having problems with it running slow, or randomly rebooting the main interface (then it re-reads the SD cards which takes a minute). This is with just a few apps open; say, Doubletwist playing a podcast and Navigator guiding me somewhere.
I did update to 2.3.6 when that came out and it actually made my phone quite a bit zippier. I've rooted, and I use Titanium Backup to get rid of a bunch of junk that Tmobile put on there. But there's still things running that I don't want taking RAM, but don't want to get rid of. QIK for example likes to have a service running, as does facebook. I like to use Qik sometimes facebook on occasion, and I just want to start the app those times, not have it running all the time. Telenav GPS has a service running all the time too. I'd like to use that app sometimes, but don't want it in my RAM until that time -- why the service? Oh and in Services (through Settings->Applications->Running Services it says at the bottom RAM 165MB used 101MB free. What RAM is this referring to anyway?
Please someone help me understand how RAM works on this thing. I'm totally new to Android, just came over from using an iphone for years so this is all new.

The main reason you see only 323MB of RAM is that the rest is dedicated to memory-mapped devices link the video card. That lovely screen needs backing memory.

IDisposable said:
The main reason you see only 323MB of RAM is that the rest is dedicated to memory-mapped devices link the video card. That lovely screen needs backing memory.
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man that blows >.< we need to be able 2 add ram like we can on PCs >.<
TY for the answer i been wondering

[Q] Where Is My Internal Storage?

Hi all,
I am using a stock ROM on my Inspire 4G. For some time now, I have been getting this message: "Low on space: Phone storage space is getting low." I do have a lot of apps installed, but I have moved every movable app larger than 1MB onto my SD card, and I have continued to get the message. Today I reached the point where I cannot even upgrade an app. I am showing 70.34MB of available space.
I have searched Market for something that would tell me what's using all my storage, but everything I found is limited to external/SD card storage. Can anyone tell me what else I can do to most effectively recover some storage? What are the most likely culprits?
Thanks!

search the android market. Diskview.
not much else you can do without root access to that partition

I could be very wrong on this, but from what I understand the internal storage is partitioned in a way that most of it is not usable for general use. I have rooted my phone and switched rooms and I still only have a little over a gig of memory on my phone for apps and such
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Barkt said:
I could be very wrong on this, but from what I understand the internal storage is partitioned in a way that most of it is not usable for general use. I have rooted my phone and switched rooms and I still only have a little over a gig of memory on my phone for apps and such
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4gb internal storage on specs and around 1gb is 'usable'.
However, OP's issue is that he's out of internal storage space. I do know that there have been issues with other devices where moving apps to sdcard still left a copy on the internal storage.
OP: Might consider doing a bit of data cleaning rather than app moving.

Even when you move apps to the SD card, it still leaves a little bit of the app in internal. So if you really have a lot of apps, you're going to have to remove something. Unless there is something else wrong. I have around 150 apps installed, with everything that can be put on SD put there, and I have around 650MB still available.

Thanks, everyone, for your replies. I've been really slow getting back to this because I've had other issues I've had to deal with. I did move absolutely every movable app onto the SD card, but it didn't help.
Wolamok, I had assumed I would have to remove some data, but what? I had about 2300 contacts, many of which were duplicates. While I was cleaning them up in Outlook, I decided to delete them ALL from my phone to see what memory I could free up.. A few contacts were repopulated from social media, but only 60 or 70. However, I 'me still out of of memory and getting notifications, and I still can't so much as upgrade an app.
I feel really stupid, because on my Pocket PCs and Windows Mobile devices, I knew exactly where to look for data and what to remove, but I feel totally lost here.
I don't even know which apps to uninstall, because I don't know which ones have left pieces around in internal memory and how much.
Any more ideas, anyone?
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I forgot to mention that while I appreciated the Diskview suggestion, I can't get it to run. I don't know if you my memory is too low to even do that, but it says it's analyzing the SD card and never finishes.
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MagicSpeller said:
I don't even know which apps to uninstall, because I don't know which ones have left pieces around in internal memory and how much.
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Whenever you uninstall an app, be sure to clear cache and data for it first. And force stop it if that option isn't grayed out. Then there shouldn't be any remnants of it.
When you go into manage applications, you should be able to get an idea of where the most storage is being used. The amount that is listed for each app is only internal storage if you're on the "downloaded" or "all" tabs. So even if an app is on the SD card, what's listed is how much internal storage it is using.
Bottom line is, if you're hurting for storage, uninstall anything you don't really use. Even all those free Amazon games. You can always reinstall them in the future. Hope that helps to give you an idea of what's hogging storage.

pazzo02 said:
Whenever you uninstall an app, be sure to clear cache and data for it first. And force stop it if that option isn't grayed out. Then there shouldn't be any remnants of it.
When you go into manage applications, you should be able to get an idea of where the most storage is being used. The amount that is listed for each app is only internal storage if you're on the "downloaded" or "all" tabs. So even if an app is on the SD card, what's listed is how much internal storage it is using.
Bottom line is, if you're hurting for storage, uninstall anything you don't really use. Even all those free Amazon games. You can always reinstall them in the future. Hope that helps to give you an idea of what's hogging storage.
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Thanks a lot for the reply. By the time I saw it, I had already gotten so frustrated I had followed you advice in advance. I deleted all the apps I'd installed and was going to try out "some day"--and yes, that included all the free Amazon games I'd never played!
I was surprised to see how much space was being used by apps that supposedly were on the SD card.
I hadn't thought of clearing cache and data, and I guess I'm too late for that now, but I'll definitely keep that in mind for the future.
Thanks again!

[Q] Internal Storage 2gb?!

I was really excited about the new HTC One X, did lots of research on it and watched plenty of reviews. I was already convinced that I was going to buy it, however I went to a store to test it out today, and found out that they still had that internal storage(2gb) and external storage(now they call it phone storage)... I was disappointed. I was told that the Galaxy Nexus did not have this option anymore you could use all of the 16gb/32gb to dl apps and store everything else. The main reason I wanted to switch from my HTC Desire HD is because I only had 1gb of internal storage. I am a heavy app user, every single time I want to try a new app or update me current apps, my phone just tells me that I have low internal memory space. I had to delete my emails, my msgs, and a lot of my games. If I didnt make space in my internal memory I wouldnt be able to sync my accounts or update my apps.
Anyways I just want someone to clarify to me that the whole internal storage for the HTC One X work the same way as the Galaxy Nexus or Iphone 4S. Or is it still the same like the HTC Desire, that you can only use 2gb to store dl apps. I know that you can move games into the sd cards but widgets, emails, msgs and saved games must be in the internal storage.

rickywz said:
I was really excited about the new HTC One X, did lots of research on it and watched plenty of reviews. I was already convinced that I was going to buy it, however I went to a store to test it out today, and found out that they still had that internal storage(2gb) and external storage(now they call it phone storage)... I was disappointed. I was told that the Galaxy Nexus did not have this option anymore you could use all of the 16gb/32gb to dl apps and store everything else. The main reason I wanted to switch from my HTC Desire HD is because I only had 1gb of internal storage. I am a heavy app user, every single time I want to try a new app or update me current apps, my phone just tells me that I have low internal memory space. I had to delete my emails, my msgs, and a lot of my games. If I didnt make space in my internal memory I wouldnt be able to sync my accounts or update my apps.
Anyways I just want someone to clarify to me that the whole internal storage for the HTC One X work the same way as the Galaxy Nexus or Iphone 4S. Or is it still the same like the HTC Desire, that you can only use 2gb to store dl apps. I know that you can move games into the sd cards but widgets, emails, msgs and saved games must be in the internal storage.
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the 16gb is seperated into 3 sections: the system (or OS), the 2gb app partition your mentioning, and about 10gb of free space.
the system partition cannot be touched (normally), the rest works together. the 2gb is for the apps themselves (think .exe) and can use and saved data to run the app on the 10gb (think .bin).
In other words, an app on the iphone is say, 20mb. well that is probably a 500kb app (.exe) with 19.5mg of supporting data (.bin). on an iphone it just shows 20mb being used.
An android, on the other hand, will use the 2gb partition for the 500kb app, but use the 10gb for the 19.5mb data.
this is not true on all apps but most and all updated and new ones.
in the end, you'll have ALOT of space, just not unlimited, but what does? also note, the one x us version only has 16gb without sdcard expansion (gay). so many people will have to be smart. keep photo's uploaded to photoshop, dropbox, photobucket, ect. use google music to keep audio. use dropbox for nandroids, videos, and other big files. learn how to use vnc. if you learn all of your resources, you'll find that you have plenty of space.
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1gb=1000mb
1mb=1000kb
16gb=16000mb=16000000kb

This is what I am kind of upset about, if I know I am paying for a phone that has 32gb I dont want to be limited to only being able to use 2gb out of 32gb :S. Right now I have the HTC Desire HD, which gives 1gb of internal storage, I am a very heavy app user, and I have tons of email accounts. These past few months I have been deleting a lot of my apps, and deleting a lot of my emails just to update my current apps and to be able to sync my accounts. It would have been much better if it was like the Galaxy Nexus or the Iphone. Anyways thx for clearing it up for me. Now I know that the HTC One X also works like the HTC Desire HD (storage wise) I am struggling with only 1gb of internal storage, I dont think an extra 1gb will help me with what I want, especially with new apps, and more updates for the current apps.

rickywz said:
This is what I am kind of upset about, if I know I am paying for a phone that has 32gb I dont want to be limited to only being able to use 2gb out of 32gb :S. Right now I have the HTC Desire HD, which gives 1gb of internal storage, I am a very heavy app user, and I have tons of email accounts. These past few months I have been deleting a lot of my apps, and deleting a lot of my emails just to update my current apps and to be able to sync my accounts. It would have been much better if it was like the Galaxy Nexus or the Iphone. Anyways thx for clearing it up for me. Now I know that the HTC One X also works like the HTC Desire HD (storage wise) I am struggling with only 1gb of internal storage, I dont think an extra 1gb will help me with what I want, especially with new apps, and more updates for the current apps.
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You could always.... use sd-ext partitions?

Hunt3r.j2 said:
You could always.... use sd-ext partitions?
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Not for the One X there is no option for an external SD card, and even if that was the case, all the data of apps, maps, emails, msgs, apps with widget, etc all of those have to be stored in the internal memory...

rickywz said:
Not for the One X there is no option for an external SD card, and even if that was the case, all the data of apps, maps, emails, msgs, apps with widget, etc all of those have to be stored in the internal memory...
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No, I'm saying you do a link between /data/app and an ext partition on part of the internal storage that functions as a microSD card.
Another possibility is using a custom hboot that changes the phone to use MTP and place the virtual sdcard into the data partition, but this would require extensive changes to the phone software in the way of recoveries and Roms.

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No, I'm saying you do a link between /data/app and an ext partition on part of the internal storage that functions as a microSD card.
Another possibility is using a custom hboot that changes the phone to use MTP and place the virtual sdcard into the data partition, but this would require extensive changes to the phone software in the way of recoveries and Roms.
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"link between /data/app and an ext partition on part of the internal storage that functions as a microSD card"
How do I do partition it? and will there be a downside of doing that? i.e. slowing down the phone?
making the phone to use MTP will be the best for me ( like the GN) that way I will be able to make use of the whole 25gb for apps without worrying about the internal memory getting full.

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Do you wish you have bigger ram?

Im on xt1033 (no external sd). Im satisfied with the performance on my moto g but i hate it when i switch app (browser) sometimes it reloads the whole page as if it closes the browser because it doesnt have enough ram. I watched a couple of vids in yt about adding ram thru sd card, sadly ours dont have external sd card. I know we can partition our internal storage, right? Anyone here have done this? So we can add it as ram? I have 16gb model and i still have 7.5gb of free storage i have my phone for 8months now so im pretty sure im not needing more storage anytime soon. Anyone wanna try to experiment on this? So we can add another 500mb or a gig of ram?

Use a different ROM which has a little different policy of managing RAM... I too was frustrated by this problem but I have tried many ROMs but to no avail...Then I tried nexus 5 experience ROM and that has fixed the problem for me...So basically just use a custom ROM
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Hi, thanks for the suggestion but I'm not open to try any custom rom as of the moment. As long as the stock is the current version. I will still go with the stock.

kiko321 said:
Hi, thanks for the suggestion but I'm not open to try any custom rom as of the moment. As long as the stock is the current version. I will still go with the stock.
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It's a 150 dollars device... it's even too much good for its price. My average ram consumption with the phone just rebooted is around 500mb, you need to check which apps use too much ram (like 30mb+) and close them or, with root, you can prevent them from boot. Anyway, apps that require big amount of ram will always reload if you leave them in background.

As said above, you can't expect much more of such a cheap device as the Moto G.
On the other hand, 1GB RAM is still quite good amount to run you off pretty much everything. You can have insufficient RAM only if you use your phone as a computer replacement, which is very bad idea.
In that case you should get for example Xperia Z, which is way more suitable for that purpose or Note2. This will cost you significantly more cash of course.
Also you can't increase your RAM off the storage of the device, being it sd or emmc. You can't repartition the emmc either, this will most likely hard brick the device.
Swap is not a substitute for RAM and it never have been.

Thanks, i already have the boot manager via xposed module but still im experiencing it. anyway it was just an idea. Coz i have a lot of space in my internal.
I just noticed that even if i still have 100+ mb of free ram background app still reloads when reopen.

kiko321 said:
Thanks, i already have the boot manager via xposed module but still im experiencing it. anyway it was just an idea. Coz i have a lot of space in my internal.
I just noticed that even if i still have 100+ mb of free ram background app still reloads when reopen.
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I would recommend the Android Assistant app, it has a lot of features including a boot manager and also an easy button to free up RAM. There is ads tho unless you use Adaway.
My biggest gripe with the lack of ram on the G is when I'm trying to stream Pandora while using the navigation...I usually end up driving in silence until the annoying lady tells me where to go

The best way to prevent your problem is fine tuning minfree controls...I use trickster mod to make these settings...Do go through this link...It gives you details on how to fine tune them to solve your problem...
http://m.androidcentral.com/fine-tuning-minfree-settings-improving-androids-multi-tasking
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SD card as internal memory - will all apps use this including system?

The Moto E 2 seems like a good phone but with a somewhat small internal memory of 8 GB. But as it has Android 6 I thought it could work by just adding an SD card as internal memory.
But I can't find a definite answer whether this additional memory will really be undistinguishable from the "real" one. Some people wrote you still have to move apps to the new memory, some even said it only works with apps where the devs allowed it (i. e. hardly any at all). Also it seems system apps cannot use the additional memory which would be another major drawback on an 8 GB phone.
Can someone who already done it please tell me how the additional memory will be used? Can system apps be moved, can all user apps be moved, will data such as whatsapp videos be moved? Thanks.

Sorry for bumping... has nobody an idea?

The phone will see the storage as one instead of two. So will the PC if you connect the phone to it.

bur2000 said:
The Moto E 2 seems like a good phone but with a somewhat small internal memory of 8 GB. But as it has Android 6 I thought it could work by just adding an SD card as internal memory.
Yes, you can add a SD card but android OS doesn't really like SD card, your media, app won't run smoothly.
But I can't find a definite answer whether this additional memory will really be undistinguishable from the "real" one. Some people wrote you still have to move apps to the new memory, some even said it only works with apps where the devs allowed it (i. e. hardly any at all). Also it seems system apps cannot use the additional memory which would be another major drawback on an 8 GB phone.
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You can move your app, game data, media (img, music, video,...) to SD card very hard but forr app/game data, it won't run 100% as it used to be on internal storage.
My recommendation is to find other phone with more storage if you want to enjoy some apps/games with big size or move all media to Sd card but app/game data.
Have fun!
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This is a phone for my mother. She needs more than 8 GB but wants a phone the size of Moto G or E. Apparently there are none that fit that criterion other than some Samsung phones and those are pricey. I like Motorola but their new 16 GB phones are all 5" or more. And the older smaller Moto X or G aren't available anymore.
As much as I disliked Steve Jobs, I 100% agree with him on his opinion towards screen size...