iOS has Safari Mobile, WP7 has IE Mobile, I'm just curious to why Google hasn't released a mobile version of Chrome for android. Android is at version 3.x now so its pretty matured, but still missing Chrome. Does anyone know exactly why they are not releasing it or why the delay?
I also don't get why Apple hasn't released iChat for iOS.
bebopblues said:
iOS has Safari Mobile, WP7 has IE Mobile, I'm just curious to why Google hasn't released a mobile version of Chrome for android. Android is at version 3.x now so its pretty matured, but still missing Chrome. Does anyone know exactly why they are not releasing it or why the delay?
I also don't get why Apple hasn't released iChat for iOS.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Dont know why dont you ask them and report back?
umm..because Android stock browser is chrome? it just needs updating...
My guess is at some point in the future Android and Chrome Os might merge in some shape or form...but to put a full featured chrome on Android would kinda remove the point of Chrome OS...
Correct the stock browser is based on the desktop version of the Chrome Browser. However it still does not have the same GUI.
There are multiple web browsers though that offer many of the same functionalities. I'm currently digging the Angel Browser myself.
Related
There's no doubt, Windows Mobile will support Adobe Flash and become a "desktop like" multimedia experience. The question is when.
Skyfire had better release their browser or there will be no use for it.
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2008/apr08/04-01WM61PR.mspx
Big_O said:
There's no doubt, Windows Mobile will support Adobe Flash and become a "desktop like" multimedia experience. The question is when.
Skyfire had better release their browser or there will be no use for it.
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2008/apr08/04-01WM61PR.mspx
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Based on the performance of past Internet Explorer versions--I'd say that Skyfire might still out-perform it. From various comments and reviews, I understand that Skyfire is remarkably fast despite the added Flash-support. Let's hope Microsoft gives them run for their money!
yea..i wouldnt be too worried if i was skyfire..microsoft hasnt gotten it right yet...what makes me think they will start to now?
The only thing missing from the smartphone/internet experience is adobe flash support. That accounts for a tremendous amount of web page viewing. People are tired of looking at text or empty boxes while viewing web pages from their phones. Microsoft already has their new browser, which was unveilled at CITA last April. It would seem logical to release an update by the first quarter of 2009. This is also the time for CES in Vegas 2009.
Some company will eventually offer adobe flash based viewing for windows mobile -- that's the good news.
Rim (blackberry) and apple (iphone) will probably not support adobe flash, even though apple is talking about adding it.
Big_O said:
There's no doubt, Windows Mobile will support Adobe Flash and become a "desktop like" multimedia experience. The question is when.
Skyfire had better release their browser or there will be no use for it.
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2008/apr08/04-01WM61PR.mspx
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
microsoft always said stupidities
We all know that the IE version in WP7 is based of Internet Explorer 7, and we all know that IE7 sucks.
But, do you think that it would be possible for the Opera team to make a browser for it? Spotify got native access, would Microsoft grant the to Opera too?
i hope they bring opera over to wp7 but initially they said there would not be any other browsers for wp7
but from the youtube videos ive seen the browser on wp7 looks pretty good tabbed browsing and everything loads were pretty speedy we'll have to see how it workks
Don't really care. I would love FireFox though. the beta for Android is pretty nice.
Yeah, Firefox would also be nice, but from earlier actions I don't think that Mozilla will even consider porting Firefox to a non open platform.
The problem with the built in IE is that the rendering engine is outdated, and this can cause problems with websites not rendering correctly.
love the expert opinion in this thread which claims that IE is based entirely on IE7 and that IE on wp7 sucks. sounds like OP has used a real wp7 hardware and IE sucked.
funny it didn't suck for me when opening website's and yet to see rendering problems.
ps - IE on wp7 is based on IE7 and IE8.
It's based on IE7 and IE7 and it sucks indeed.
Sir. Haxalot said:
Yeah, Firefox would also be nice, but from earlier actions I don't think that Mozilla will even consider porting Firefox to a non open platform.
The problem with the built in IE is that the rendering engine is outdated, and this can cause problems with websites not rendering correctly.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I guess you've used the browser in WP7 and know this for a fact, right?
Many different hands-on experiences with developer phones, say that the browser is actually performing very very well.
Pocketnow.com has made a video comparison with android and iOS, and I gotta say, it removed all of my doubts. Whether it's the best, not sure, but it definitely suffices. Especially once Adobe launches Flash for WP7 and Microsoft fixed Silverlight in the browser - two things we know are going to happen.
Also, from a job opening posted by Microsoft, you can tell that HTML5 is on its way too. However, HTML5 is not important yet as it's not being used for mobile ends yet.
crow26 said:
It's based on IE7 and IE7 and it sucks indeed.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Way to bash something you haven't used yet.
Opera Mini is a must.
Even if IE7 will perform great on WP7, I don't imagine using full page rendering browser
all the time.
Because of battery and because of bad signal areas!!!
Opera Mobile opens pages always fast no matter what kind of connection you use.
Because it's server rendering machine.
Plus loads 1/10 of actual page size, so saves A LOT of data and energy.
I thought it was based on IE7 and IE8 which is why all the reviews I've seen have actually said its pretty decent.
Not fussed about HTML5 at the mo as even the standards committee has said its not ready for prime time yet
BTW I would like to have BOTH.
doministry said:
BTW I would like to have BOTH.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'd like to have both for the reasons doministry said before.
9 time out of 10 I don't care if a page renders correctly, my preference is for pages to render quickly, and such that I can still make sense out of it.
I like text to be one columned so I don't have to scroll left and right to read it. I also like that it's server rendered so it's loads fast. Also I don't have to reload a page when I hit the back button.
For those rare occasions I need a page to render correctly I'd open Opera Mobile, or PIE.
gom99 said:
I'd like to have both for the reasons doministry said before.
9 time out of 10 I don't care if a page renders correctly, my preference is for pages to render quickly, and such that I can still make sense out of it.
I like text to be one columned so I don't have to scroll left and right to read it. I also like that it's server rendered so it's loads fast. Also I don't have to reload a page when I hit the back button.
For those rare occasions I need a page to render correctly I'd open Opera Mobile, or PIE.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes.
BTW on my WM 6.5.3 SE X2 Flash support works much nicer on PIE than Opera Mobile..
Is this still being looked at? Opera mini for WP7?
I would like to have Opera in WP7 and voted that way, but on a second thought I would better have both.
Honestly the only problem I have with IE on WP7 is no text reflow and it's pretty hard to read forums in the phone with no text reflow.
I love opera and its odd having Opera Link Without an Opera Browser they need to get on this.
Interesting if that would ever appear.
I assume Opera will make the move when WP7 will gain any real marketshare.
I don't think Opera will come until there is access to native code. There is no way they could write a browser in silverlight that would even come near the performance of the native browser. Not to mention, they would need to rewrite from scratch instead of utilizing their existing code base.
So yeah, not happening anytime soon.
i don't really cảe since they put IE9 in Mango.
Maybe IE10 too with Appolo or Tango.
What browsers are u guys using ?
THUNDERBOLT
dolphin mini for regular browsing...dolphin HD for when i wanna watch HULU..
Default
-Monky_1
I like the default browser. Haven't had any problems yet.
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA App
Using regular browser here, but I have Opera Mobile installed, gonna be giving that a try.
I think the regular browser is great but I just started using Miren and like it a lot so far.
I am using firefox 4, and it is pretty nice. I wish it were snappier, but it's feature set is so nice and the fact you can swipe right to see open tabs and swipe left for back/forward/bookmark, it's super convenient.
Xscope
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA App
Been on dolphin hd for a few months now. I would use firefox more if pictures didn't look so bad.
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA App
Xscope here
Sent from my ADR6400L
I use stock for most normal browsing. Have Dolphin hd setup as a desktop profile for hulu and the like.
Sent from my Thunderbolt using Perfect Storm xda app.
Miren Browser, for sure.
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA App
Normal browser. I really like the pinch-zoom-out gesture used for opening new windows. Really spiffy and easy.
So, rally any of them then.. LOL No real distinct one is better than another..
Everyone has their own choice of browser as you can see. However, that doesn't mean a particular browser wont have features or semantics that wont appeal to you more than others, so try them all and see.
For the record though, I prefer Opera Mobile, but I also use Opera on my desktop as the main browser as well. However, some browsers do certain things better than others. I prefer firefox (for firebug and dynatrace http://www.dynatrace.com/en/) when I develop and SrwIron (chrome) is my fallback browser on the desktop if Opera wont work on a site.
Opera probably has the longest development track record (starting years ago with windows phones and symbian) for a mobile browser (and one of the longest for support on ARM processors in general). All but a wrapper that calls the code libraries (.so files or for those that stick with windows, .dll files) in Android's dalvik vm are compiled natively for ARM in c++ (since they use these libraries on windows phones and symbian as well), so they have the ability to run faster than the code that must be interpreted through the dalvik virtual machine. See http://my.opera.com/operamobile/blog/the-components-of-opera-mobile-11-on-android for more details on that.
Opera will also allow you to sync your browsing history, bookmarks, search history, favorite pages (the speed dial), etc to the desktop version if you use it. http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/my-opera-synchronization-explained
Opera also has a pretty good track record for security and patching exploits. I'm leary of trusting any browser other than Opera or the native one built into Android, which has similar libraries as chrome (firefox mobile is probably okay as well, but it's still in the development phase so there could be bugs or things not patched quite yet). The rest of the mobile browsers other than firefox mobile (built on gecko) and opera (built on presto) are all mostly close to vanilla webkit clones (excluding the built in android browser similar to chrome) that aren't overly proven to be secure or have a long history of development. Since they're webkit clones (since webkit is currently the only stable open source platform choice for phones until the release of a stable firefox mobile), they're all going to tend to look somewhat alike and have similar speeds. That's not to say they are not secure, but they're mostly rookies to the game compared to Chrome/FireFox/Opera. Webkit rendering engine itself is well designed (with a history of being used on mobile phones long before android via nokia's built in symbian os browser), but how companies take that code and implement is is the problem. In the pwn2own hacking competition, chrome (the desktop version) was the only webkit based browser not to be susceptible to a major exploit.
Opera has its little annoyances like any browser. Mostly things like being ignored by bad web developers in the past that only cared about IE. However since firefox and chrome follow web standards like opera now and have a significant market share, this rarely happens nowadays. Though, sometimes I will stumble on a site using the desktop version that forgets Opera is also a desktop browser and gives me the mobile page, haha. For quite a while, McDonalds.com would do this.
Any of the more popular browsers should be good enough if you use good judgment, but if you're ever leary of a site, at least pick a browser you can disable plugins (flash and pdf readers) and javascript if needed, since those are the 2 main ways you might get hacked via a web browser. In opera mobile, you can type "opera : plugins" (without quotes and the spaces) in the url and you can disable any plugins you do not want to use. With that it's generally harder to monitor the system internals and connections on your phone versus a desktop pc (and the wonky permission control system [or lack thereof] in the graphical interface of android), it's better to be a bit more cautious.
I like dolphin HD
I use Firefox and the default one. For some reason Firefox has problems for me on facebook when i try to send a message
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA Premium App
Opera Mobile is currently my browser of choice.
@yareally: a simple "I prefer Opera Mobile" would've sufficed. We get it, you like it.
Hi guys just sharing an opinion piece I wrote about the future of Android.
My current theory is that eventually Android could be replaced by Chrome OS, or merged and it could happen as soon as the next major update (5.0)
My article is here and I just wanted to get some input from you guys: my fellow Android Enthusiasts,
exekias said:
Hi guys just sharing an opinion piece I wrote about the future of Android.
My current theory is that eventually Android could be replaced by Chrome OS, or merged and it could happen as soon as the next major update (5.0)
My article is here and I just wanted to get some input from you guys: my fellow Android Enthusiasts,
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
doesn't sound all bad! interesting thoughts.. thanks
Sent From My Paranoid Nexus⁴
The Thanks Button Is There
To Stop Thanks Posts Filling
The Thread.. Use It!?
Nice piece... And that first picture inspires me to make a Chrome Launcher/Chrome OS Theme.
Also, I think android should just natively support web apps that use HTML5 or Unity or whatever the Chrome Browser supports naively as if they were android apps except the big upgrade/catch is that it runs it natively like an app without an internet connection. So maybe android will just become the chrome browser but also runs android apps (which Google will call something else so that they aren't hanging on to the android name anymore and people will no longer call it android).
I also don't understand anything HTML or Java so maybe impossible
Sent from my SCH-I500 using Tapatalk 2
Android MAY be MERGED with Chrome OS... but it will NEVER be REPLACED by it.
Chrome OS is based on the cloud, and our phones not allways have an internet connection.
Nope it will not be Chrome OS. Things will get merged eventually but Android will remain:good:
So why Google can't understand that you need flash enabled browser to reach Desktop browsing expiriance? I understand that Adobe stopped supporting flash, but maybe few million bucks would help them? Or they just want mobile users?
I think they just want to rule the web with the best search engine, maybe browser and att the end of the priority list comes an OS for PC's
The chromebooks looks really nice though but it feels more like a toy when you work with it.