Like the Title states, I am considering getting the Samsung Omnia 7, but first I have some questions about it.
I am in USA, and I'd want to use it with T-Mobile.
1. Would I need to SIM unlock it?
2. Would I get 3G coverage?
3. Would the Samsung Focus be a better choice/ how does it compare with the above questions?
Thanks in advance!
1) It'd need to be SIM unlocked.
2) As for 3G, I don't know if there's an Omnia 7 with T-mobile USA's 3G band. So, an educated guess is no 3G unless you can find one that does support the 1700 MHz frequency.
3) As for the the Focus, no clue. Haven't tied either to give a fair comparison.
I use my Omnia on Atnt network with full 3G and everything.. I got it from Expansys.. I just unboxed it and put my sim in..
Purple11 said:
I use my Omnia on Atnt network with full 3G and everything.. I got it from Expansys.. I just unboxed it and put my sim in..
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Oh, I was asking specifically about using 3G on T-Mobile USA.
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Oh, I was asking specifically about using 3G on T-Mobile USA.
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I checked all the companies that use T-Mobile's AWS 3G band & non list the Omnia 7 or Focus. So, I am left saying no to 3G. As for SIM Lock, most devices are locked by service providers & therefore must be unlocked. Now, if you get one directly from Samsung that isn't branded, than it'll be pre-unlocked. If you plan to stay on T-Mobile, I suggest getting an HD7 (I have one) or the Dell venue Pro or wait & see if any new devices show up for T-Mobile after Mango/Nokia comes through.
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I checked all the companies that use T-Mobile's AWS 3G band & non list the Omnia 7 or Focus. So, I am left saying no to 3G. As for SIM Lock, most devices are locked by service providers & therefore must be unlocked. Now, if you get one directly from Samsung that isn't branded, than it'll be pre-unlocked. If you plan to stay on T-Mobile, I suggest getting an HD7 (I have one) or the Dell venue Pro or wait & see if any new devices show up for T-Mobile after Mango/Nokia comes through.
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Thanks for the suggestion! I actually already have an HD7, which I like too, but having a Zune HD, I know how utterly fantastic OLED (and subsequently AMOLED) screens are, so I've been considering upgrading to either the Focus or Omnia 7.
EDIT: Oh and one other question: Does having the phone unlocked mean the updates won't have to go through my carrier to get to my phone? Also, will T-Mobile somehow find out and get mad or ban me or anything like that?
Thanks again!
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I was planning on picking up an unlocked HTC Pro on Monday and wanted to know if I would be able to go to an AT&T store and get it setup?
1) Does AT&T allow unlocked phones to be setup like this?
2) Will I get 3G through their UMTS network?
I have done a lot of searching here and came up empty, someone surely has tried this or knows if it is possible?
Exoticphone.com is selling me the unlocked phone if you need to verify the specs in it (although I assume it is just the stock phone made by HTC).
I found some info. in this other forum here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410945
1- Yes, you can set up any unlocked phone to use on at&t, as long as it supports the correct bands (the touch pro does). You dont need to go to an at&t store, just put the sim in, and your good to go
2- No, the current touch pro does not support at&t 3G bands. You can still use it on edge, or you can wait until the north american version is released
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omaralt said:
2- No, the current touch pro does not support at&t 3G bands. You can still use it on edge, or you can wait until the north american version is released
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That's not for sure yet. The Touch Pro may or may not support the north american 3G bands. It's a bit of a gamble at this point from what I can tell, future ROM's may get that functionality working... or not.
As stated for #1, EDGE and GSM will work just fine.
are you out of your mind posting this. Use the search on the top right.
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are you out of your mind posting this. Use the search on the top right.
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Wow, why are you flaming someone who just asked a simple question, you easily could have taken the time nicely point out the search feature instead of creating thread clutter.
To the OP, as stated you "might" be able to get 3G to run on it but out of the box it is only enabled for European 3G. When the "Fuse" comes out (Touch Pro made for ATT) it is possible that people will find a way to make the unlocked versions run with US 3G enabled, but thats not a sure thing.
You can go into any ATT store and just tell them you need to buy a SIM card and a phone plan and they will get you all set up.
When looking for phones just check which frequencies are supported on the device and what is offered by the network you are looking to join or use.
Hi,
I've searched around the forum but I can't seem to find an answer to this one.
I was wondering if it is possible to unlock (i.e. remove the simlock) on the Nexus S?
I see that the bootloader has been unlocked and that new ROMS can be written to the phone, so does this mean that everything is erased (including the simlock) and that any sim can be used with it once this is done?
Thanks!
The phone is not sim locked, only sold subsidized through t-mobile
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Unfortunately it is simlocked to Orange UK !
That's a bummer. Did you get it from CPW (just curious)?
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That's not possible. Every Nexus S is carrier unlocked but is band limited to T-Mobile bands.
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That's a bummer. Did you get it from CPW (just curious)?
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No, got it from WeBuy http://uk.webuy.com/
That's not possible. Every Nexus S is carrier unlocked but is band limited to T-Mobile bands.
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This appears to be the case, except the T-Mobile bit!
So even when its band limited can this be removed?
This is brilliant news if it is unlocked - Unfortunately can't try it atm cause i don't have it with me - can anyone else confirm? This forum appears to reinforce this idea... http://androidforums.com/nexus-s/275180-help-need-unlock-my-nexus-s.html
Band is limited by hardware, and it will work on any of the UK carriers, no matter what CEX says.
I'd be inclined to say it's an error on their part anyway, they sell the Nexus One as 'mint' for more than that.
It's possible to SIM lock a Nexus S, but somebody between the factory and the point of sale has to do so, because they're not manufactured that way. In other words, if your phone is SIM locked, you picked the wrong seller.
But the bands the phone can use are the bands it can use; it's a hardware thing, not a software thing. The Nexus S has quad-band 2G GSM connectivity, so you should be able to use 2G pretty much anywhere in the world, but it only has tri-band 3G connectivity, so depending on where you live there's an excellent chance you'll either be restricted to one or two carriers or have no options at all for 3G. That doesn't mean the phone won't function on those networks, just that the data connectivity will be very slow when you're not connected to WiFi.
I know 3G works fully on bands I and IV, and the specs indicate it should work on band VIII. I heard second-hand that somebody was getting partial functionality on band IX as well, but I certainly wouldn't count on that one.
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Band is limited by hardware, and it will work on any of the UK carriers, no matter what CEX says.
I'd be inclined to say it's an error on their part anyway, they sell the Nexus One as 'mint' for more than that.
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Ummm, I thought it might be, but then I thought because it was locked to Orange that was why
Only vodafone uk and CPW has the NS and the only locked units is possibly Voda UK. CPW units are sim free hence the 430 price tag. Check with CEX if the imei is legit . They have had users sell the phone to them later file the phone has been stolen.
Well I tried it out, but in the end I decided not to buy the phone as the main menu button required a ridiculously hard press in order to get it to work and then it only worked about one time out of three!
I take it that the Nexus S is not generally like this, and this one was just a bit faulty???
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Well I tried it out, but in the end I decided not to buy the phone as the main menu button required a ridiculously hard press in order to get it to work and then it only worked about one time out of three!
I take it that the Nexus S is not generally like this, and this one was just a bit faulty???
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There have been numerous complaints of the back button, but I haven't seen (m)any about the menu button.
Hope you guys can help me.
I will like to buy the Inspire 4G thru amazon and plan to use it in Costa Rica, where we use the same 2G and 3G bands as AT&T (850). Nevertheless I’m not sure if after the SIM/IMEI unlock, it will work with a Costa Rican SIM card? It is very common for us to buy unlocked At&t or T-Mobile phones and use them in Costa Rica.. but I have my concerns.
Last December I bought a Prepaid AT&T Phone (Samsung A107) on a trip to the US, but after doing a SIM/IMEI unlock, the Prepaid phone didn’t recognized my Costa Rican SIM card. And even before that, while still been in the US, I was not even able to use the AT&T SIM card on my unlocked Touch Pro2 (EUR version).
My worst fear is that AT&T is doing some sort of “Hard Sim Lock” to their phones.. and I will kill myself for buying an expensive paperweight.
Your thoughts and comments will be highly appreciated.
Hi, I can't 100% answer your question but I do know why your SIM cards weren't interchangeable. We lock all PUK codes on all prepaid SIM cards to where you can only use that SIM on that phone. If you would've gotten a "regular" SIM you could've used it on another carriers phone. As to why the non AT&T SIM didn't work maybe they scammed you and it never got unlocked.
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Using Inspire 4G in Costa Rica.
Thanks for your explanation. So basically and after reading other posts regarding unlocking this phone, the Inspire 4G should work overseas without any inconveniences, after inserting the SIM/IMEI unlock code that you buy from any “respected” and “trusted” site (and as long as the 3G Band is 850) ?
I was going to buy the unlocked Desire HD (Eur Version), but regretfully it wouldn’t work with any Latam 3G Band (as it happened with my Touch Pro2, that only works with 3G band 2100+900).
I got an Inspire 4G on Monday, unlocked it, and my existing SIM card from another country (also in latam) worked right away. Been using it since then both in the US and back home.
So unless there is some lock on the SIM card itself, it should work fine, I think.
That’s the answer I was looking for!! You made my day. To be honest, I want to change from Winmo to Android so badly… that this phone seems to be the right deal.
Quick question just before going to amazon and start my order: Which system did you used to get the Unlock code? I have read in other forums, that some folks have been using htcimeiunlock with excellent results (I’m not related to that company by the way). I just like to hear a second opinion.
And once again..Thank you so much for your assistance!!
Got my phone unlocked
Hey
I'm from Venezuela, and I unlocked my HTC Inspire 4G from AT&T at unlockusa.com. I chose them because they're top-rated sellers at eBay and seemed trustworthy. I got my unlock code within 5 minutes, and everything worked as expected.
Hope you enjoy your new phone!
Yes, I used htcimeiunlock.com. Got my unlock code in a few minutes with no problems whatsoever.
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Hey
I'm from Venezuela, and I unlocked my HTC Inspire 4G from AT&T at unlockusa.com. I chose them because they're top-rated sellers at eBay and seemed trustworthy. I got my unlock code within 5 minutes, and everything worked as expected.
Hope you enjoy your new phone!
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Yes, I used htcimeiunlock.com. Got my unlock code in a few minutes with no problems whatsoever.
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Hmm 2 new members and advertising new site?
The AT&T Inspire only has North American UMTS radios 850 and 1900 Mhz. It lacks the 2100 radio necessary for 3 and 4G in Europe.
The phone will work on Europe's 2G Edge network. HTC should have put the 2100 Mhz radio in the Inspire but they didn't. This is the real gripe I have with this phone.
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Doesn't the desire hd cover the european market with 2100? I suppose if you are traveling it is an issue but otherwise I see no reason for att to be adding something to this phone that already exists in one of its twins. Also it is not marketed as a "world" phone by at&t either.
Whats the key code / combination on the inspire to check the status of the sim?
I may be new on the forums, but I've been lurking for a while. Heck, I learned about that site from here, and the various threads on the forum on unlocking/rooting were one of the things I kept in mind when deciding to buy the phone.
geogkdam asked if the site worked; all I'm saying is it worked for *me*. I claim no guarantees it would work for anyone else, and frankly, I don't care much either; I'm just happy I was able to unlock the phone I bought on Monday withing a few minutes.
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Doesn't the desire hd cover the european market with 2100? I suppose if you are traveling it is an issue but otherwise I see no reason for att to be adding something to this phone that already exists in one of its twins. Also it is not marketed as a "world" phone by at&t either.
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It'll work on EDGE in Europe, which sucks for data, but at 20 bucks a megabyte while roaming, why would you want to?
I'll be taking my Inspire to London and Paris in a couple months and since I need to be reachable on my own number, I will suck it up and roam, but data will be off, so I couldn't give a crap about whether or not it's EDGE or 3G. It'll just be voice and text, and not much of that. I have an AT&T Nexus One with the 2100 band that I'll be bringing along too, I'll grab a local SIM and use that for data. I'll just have personal hotspot turned on and connect my Inspire to it.
try cellunlocker.net they unlocked it for me
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It'll work on EDGE in Europe, which sucks for data, but at 20 bucks a megabyte while roaming, why would you want to?
I'll be taking my Inspire to London and Paris in a couple months and since I need to be reachable on my own number, I will suck it up and roam, but data will be off, so I couldn't give a crap about whether or not it's EDGE or 3G. It'll just be voice and text, and not much of that. I have an AT&T Nexus One with the 2100 band that I'll be bringing along too, I'll grab a local SIM and use that for data. I'll just have personal hotspot turned on and connect my Inspire to it.
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AT&T also offers packages which would reduce your voice, data and text costs. Have you looked into them? Here's a link
I can't provide a link since I don't have the min. number of posts required to post here but Google "AT&T World" and you'll get the necessary info. The texting deal is a good deal if you plan to text between 20 and 50 texts. If less than 20 just go with the standard .50/text sent from Europe. If between 20&50 opt for the $10 one time charge (which drops your per text rate to .20/text).
I would also assume that free Wi-FI hotspots are plentiful around Europe??? Does anyone have first-hand experience with that?
Hello and thanks in advance, my question is- I'm going to change to AT&T service from T Mobile service and I want to make sure that all my t-mobile branded phones would work properly on AT&T service.
My phones:
(all network unlocked and t-mobile branded)
LG 90
Iphone 5c
Samsung Note 4
-Would my phones celluar and data networks work on the att network?
-Would my tmobile phones get new updated firmware and software when it's released if used on ATT?
-Would MMS and imessage work?
-Would visual voicemail work?
-Should I just buy ATT branded phones? I don't really want to as I have expensive phones already and would be super expensive to get all new ones.
-Is there anything else I should know before transferring service?
Any suggestions or info is appreciated.
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Hello and thanks in advance, my question is- I'm going to change to AT&T service from T Mobile service and I want to make sure that all my t-mobile branded phones would work properly on AT&T service.
My phones:
(all network unlocked and t-mobile branded)
LG 90
Iphone 5c
Samsung Note 4
-Would my phones celluar and data networks work on the att network?
-Would my tmobile phones get new updated firmware and software when it's released if used on ATT?
-Would MMS and imessage work?
-Would visual voicemail work?
-Should I just buy ATT branded phones? I don't really want to as I have expensive phones already and would be super expensive to get all new ones.
-Is there anything else I should know before transferring service?
Any suggestions or info is appreciated.
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bigrk said:
Hello and thanks in advance, my question is- I'm going to change to AT&T service from T Mobile service and I want to make sure that all my t-mobile branded phones would work properly on AT&T service.
My phones:
(all network unlocked and t-mobile branded)
LG 90
Iphone 5c
Samsung Note 4
-Would my phones celluar and data networks work on the att network?
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As long as they're carrier unlocked, they should all work fine on AT&T. Your iPOS and Note 4 support all of AT&T's LTE bands. The L90 doesn't have LTE, only HSPA, and AT&T's 3G network is inferior to T-Mobile's. so data on that phone will probably be disappointing (but no doubt it's not the only thing disappointing about that phone).
-Would my tmobile phones get new updated firmware and software when it's released if used on ATT?
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They should. I can't say 100% for sure, but connect via wi-fi, and it should still receive updates. I guess it's possible that an update might require a T-Mobile SIM card (even if on wi-fi), but that's just a guess. Borrow a friend's SIM card for a a bit, if this is the case.
-Would MMS and imessage work?
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I can't imagine why they wouldn't.
-Would visual voicemail work?
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It's my understanding that Visual Voicemail is a T-Mobile service, so I doubt it would work if you switched providers. I've never used it myself, and disabled it on the devices that have it. Annoying, unwanted effing notifications.
-Should I just buy ATT branded phones? I don't really want to as I have expensive phones already and would be super expensive to get all new ones.
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Screw that. AT&T locks the bootloaders, makes root more difficult, so if you have any notion of root access and/or custom ROMs, stick with T-Mobile devices. Your current devices will work just fine
Simple right? I have a factory Verizon Samsung galaxy S5 now I have T-Mobile service, can't I just wipe the Verizon software and replace it with the T-mobile software? ..... but I just don't know how and of course T-mobile isn't going to help me they want me to buy a phone, but the super nice lady tech was smitten that another lady was talking "geek" to her so she sent me to the experts. YOU!! Point me in the right direction or something I can figure out the rest. I don't worry about make-up before I leave me house I spend time on making sure my brain can carry me through, so help me work out my greatest asset by handing over some more knowledge. If you have any questions about auto mechanics I could answer those in return.
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Simple right? I have a factory Verizon Samsung galaxy S5 now I have T-Mobile service, can't I just wipe the Verizon software and replace it with the T-mobile software? ..... but I just don't know how and of course T-mobile isn't going to help me they want me to buy a phone, but the super nice lady tech was smitten that another lady was talking "geek" to her so she sent me to the experts. YOU!! Point me in the right direction or something I can figure out the rest. I don't worry about make-up before I leave me house I spend time on making sure my brain can carry me through, so help me work out my greatest asset by handing over some more knowledge. If you have any questions about auto mechanics I could answer those in return.
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The Verizon S5's bootloader is locked. If you don't know what that means, it means non-official software/firmware/OS/etc cannot be flashed to the device. Even if the bootloader wasn't locked, the phones (afaik) are physically different (modems/radios/etc) to work on different network technologies.
I know some Verizon phones will work on T-Mobile's (and AT&T's network) simply by popping in the proper SIM. From a quick google search, it seems that the Galaxy S5 is one of them. You just have to change the APN settings or you won't get texts. Follow the directions here (they're for the Note 3, but it's the same process). If there's an update from Verizon, you might have to pop in a Verizon SIM card (and download it off of wi-fi obviously). The SIM doesn't need to be active (use your old one), the phone just has to recognize a Verizon SIM. LTE will work (with the proper APN) because Verizon and T-Mobile both use band 4.
Apart from the T-Mobile account app, there's really nothing about the T-Mobile version that you'd really care about. Different company, different useless bloatware. And as long as there's a T-Mobile SIM, you can still download the account app. If you just don't want anything "Verizon" about it, just google up a guide on what bloatware to disable and how to do it.
FYI, if you're in/around Tucson or Phoenix, supposedly this year we're finally going to get band 12. It's a 700MHz band (like Verizon's band 13), which, being a lower frequency travels further and penetrates buildings better. The Galaxy S5 does not support band 12 - it's not new enough. So if you're boiling your butt off in saguaro country like me, it might behoove you to get a newer phone. The reason we're waiting on band 12 is that there's a UHF TV station in Phoenix that conflicts with that frequency (and the broadcast radius clips the northern Tucson suburbs), but I guess the TV station is going to switch (probably with financial motivation from T-Mo).
If you're not in Tucson or Phoenix (I can't speak for Flagstaff), but in a more rural area, or just where there's poor LTE coverage, it still might behoove you to get a different phone rather than use your Verizon one. The problem is that it doesn't support T-Mobiles better/faster GSM bands, so you would get slower data speeds if not on LTE, even in an area with good HSPA+ or EDGE coverage.
Of course, the other option is simply to buy a T-Mobile phone (like a used S5 off of Swappa) then sell the Verizon one. Or find someone to trade with. An AT&T one would work as well as long as it's carrier unlocked (but not Sprint).
I don't have a car.
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The Verizon S5's bootloader is locked. If you don't know what that means, it means non-official software/firmware/OS/etc cannot be flashed to the device. Even if the bootloader wasn't locked, the phones (afaik) are physically different (modems/radios/etc) to work on different network technologies.
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Just saying, VZW s5 bootloader has been unlocked lately!
Won't make a difference for this user anyways....
Newyork! said:
Just saying, VZW s5 bootloader has been unlocked lately!
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No kidding?
Planterz said:
No kidding?
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There's already 201 pages on the unlocking thread!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...t/rd-unlocking-galaxys-s5-bootloader-t3337909