I was planning on picking up an unlocked HTC Pro on Monday and wanted to know if I would be able to go to an AT&T store and get it setup?
1) Does AT&T allow unlocked phones to be setup like this?
2) Will I get 3G through their UMTS network?
I have done a lot of searching here and came up empty, someone surely has tried this or knows if it is possible?
Exoticphone.com is selling me the unlocked phone if you need to verify the specs in it (although I assume it is just the stock phone made by HTC).
I found some info. in this other forum here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410945
1- Yes, you can set up any unlocked phone to use on at&t, as long as it supports the correct bands (the touch pro does). You dont need to go to an at&t store, just put the sim in, and your good to go
2- No, the current touch pro does not support at&t 3G bands. You can still use it on edge, or you can wait until the north american version is released
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omaralt said:
2- No, the current touch pro does not support at&t 3G bands. You can still use it on edge, or you can wait until the north american version is released
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That's not for sure yet. The Touch Pro may or may not support the north american 3G bands. It's a bit of a gamble at this point from what I can tell, future ROM's may get that functionality working... or not.
As stated for #1, EDGE and GSM will work just fine.
are you out of your mind posting this. Use the search on the top right.
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are you out of your mind posting this. Use the search on the top right.
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Wow, why are you flaming someone who just asked a simple question, you easily could have taken the time nicely point out the search feature instead of creating thread clutter.
To the OP, as stated you "might" be able to get 3G to run on it but out of the box it is only enabled for European 3G. When the "Fuse" comes out (Touch Pro made for ATT) it is possible that people will find a way to make the unlocked versions run with US 3G enabled, but thats not a sure thing.
You can go into any ATT store and just tell them you need to buy a SIM card and a phone plan and they will get you all set up.
When looking for phones just check which frequencies are supported on the device and what is offered by the network you are looking to join or use.
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i have boon looking around and havent seen this brought up (hopefully not just because it is a stupid question)but it appears from all he phone sites that the spint touch pro will have a faster processor than the verizon version. if i was to purchase the sprint release could it be used on verizons network?
dont laugh at me if the question is a ridiculous one. at least just answer it out of pity.
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i think they are different network technologies so I serisouly doubt it but I could be wrong. Wiat on someone to confirm but doubtful in my limited knowledge. Even if it could, it would have to be SIM unlocked for sure
The Sprint and Verizon networks are both CDMA, which means that SIM cards are not used (and that their radio networks are compatible). Instead, the phones have unique IDs that need to be activated by the carrier. The problem is, most carriers (Sprint is one, I believe), will not activate a phone they did not sell. Verizon has an open policy (supposedly), so you might get them to activate a Sprint phone.
I'm sure there are ways around this with the right connections (and cost), but I'm not familiar with them. They are probably the same ways that phones are cloned for illegal use of others' cell plans, so I don't think you want to go that route. Try calling the carrier you want to switch to and ask. They'll probably say "no", but it can't hurt to check.
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i have boon looking around and havent seen this brought up (hopefully not just because it is a stupid question)but it appears from all he phone sites that the spint touch pro will have a faster processor than the verizon version. if i was to purchase the sprint release could it be used on verizons network?
dont laugh at me if the question is a ridiculous one. at least just answer it out of pity.
spanks
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According to this article you should be able to and its right from the horses mouth!
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2277399,00.asp
a fast way to do it is to say your having issues with the internet on sprint and thaat 6 digit code they give u will be the Subsidy lock
I'm unclear how this works in practice. I'm on Sprint old SERO, so AFAIK, I'm stuck with phones that they support on that plan; effectively HTC Touch Pro 2. Am I still correct about that? If I get an unlocked one from another network, can I now activate it on Sprint? Looking to expand my used phone options.
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I'm unclear how this works in practice. I'm on Sprint old SERO, so AFAIK, I'm stuck with phones that they support on that plan; effectively HTC Touch Pro 2. Am I still correct about that? If I get an unlocked one from another network, can I now activate it on Sprint? Looking to expand my used phone options.
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I think the term "jailbreaking" is more specifically referring to obtaining root permissions to run unofficial code on the device, not the use of an unlocked phone on a specific network; however, I do believe other FCC provisions give you the right to use an unlocked device on the network of your choosing. You might want to check to be sure...just not with Sprint - they may not give you a straight answer.
Like the Title states, I am considering getting the Samsung Omnia 7, but first I have some questions about it.
I am in USA, and I'd want to use it with T-Mobile.
1. Would I need to SIM unlock it?
2. Would I get 3G coverage?
3. Would the Samsung Focus be a better choice/ how does it compare with the above questions?
Thanks in advance!
1) It'd need to be SIM unlocked.
2) As for 3G, I don't know if there's an Omnia 7 with T-mobile USA's 3G band. So, an educated guess is no 3G unless you can find one that does support the 1700 MHz frequency.
3) As for the the Focus, no clue. Haven't tied either to give a fair comparison.
I use my Omnia on Atnt network with full 3G and everything.. I got it from Expansys.. I just unboxed it and put my sim in..
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I use my Omnia on Atnt network with full 3G and everything.. I got it from Expansys.. I just unboxed it and put my sim in..
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Oh, I was asking specifically about using 3G on T-Mobile USA.
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Oh, I was asking specifically about using 3G on T-Mobile USA.
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I checked all the companies that use T-Mobile's AWS 3G band & non list the Omnia 7 or Focus. So, I am left saying no to 3G. As for SIM Lock, most devices are locked by service providers & therefore must be unlocked. Now, if you get one directly from Samsung that isn't branded, than it'll be pre-unlocked. If you plan to stay on T-Mobile, I suggest getting an HD7 (I have one) or the Dell venue Pro or wait & see if any new devices show up for T-Mobile after Mango/Nokia comes through.
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I checked all the companies that use T-Mobile's AWS 3G band & non list the Omnia 7 or Focus. So, I am left saying no to 3G. As for SIM Lock, most devices are locked by service providers & therefore must be unlocked. Now, if you get one directly from Samsung that isn't branded, than it'll be pre-unlocked. If you plan to stay on T-Mobile, I suggest getting an HD7 (I have one) or the Dell venue Pro or wait & see if any new devices show up for T-Mobile after Mango/Nokia comes through.
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Thanks for the suggestion! I actually already have an HD7, which I like too, but having a Zune HD, I know how utterly fantastic OLED (and subsequently AMOLED) screens are, so I've been considering upgrading to either the Focus or Omnia 7.
EDIT: Oh and one other question: Does having the phone unlocked mean the updates won't have to go through my carrier to get to my phone? Also, will T-Mobile somehow find out and get mad or ban me or anything like that?
Thanks again!
Simple right? I have a factory Verizon Samsung galaxy S5 now I have T-Mobile service, can't I just wipe the Verizon software and replace it with the T-mobile software? ..... but I just don't know how and of course T-mobile isn't going to help me they want me to buy a phone, but the super nice lady tech was smitten that another lady was talking "geek" to her so she sent me to the experts. YOU!! Point me in the right direction or something I can figure out the rest. I don't worry about make-up before I leave me house I spend time on making sure my brain can carry me through, so help me work out my greatest asset by handing over some more knowledge. If you have any questions about auto mechanics I could answer those in return.
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Simple right? I have a factory Verizon Samsung galaxy S5 now I have T-Mobile service, can't I just wipe the Verizon software and replace it with the T-mobile software? ..... but I just don't know how and of course T-mobile isn't going to help me they want me to buy a phone, but the super nice lady tech was smitten that another lady was talking "geek" to her so she sent me to the experts. YOU!! Point me in the right direction or something I can figure out the rest. I don't worry about make-up before I leave me house I spend time on making sure my brain can carry me through, so help me work out my greatest asset by handing over some more knowledge. If you have any questions about auto mechanics I could answer those in return.
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The Verizon S5's bootloader is locked. If you don't know what that means, it means non-official software/firmware/OS/etc cannot be flashed to the device. Even if the bootloader wasn't locked, the phones (afaik) are physically different (modems/radios/etc) to work on different network technologies.
I know some Verizon phones will work on T-Mobile's (and AT&T's network) simply by popping in the proper SIM. From a quick google search, it seems that the Galaxy S5 is one of them. You just have to change the APN settings or you won't get texts. Follow the directions here (they're for the Note 3, but it's the same process). If there's an update from Verizon, you might have to pop in a Verizon SIM card (and download it off of wi-fi obviously). The SIM doesn't need to be active (use your old one), the phone just has to recognize a Verizon SIM. LTE will work (with the proper APN) because Verizon and T-Mobile both use band 4.
Apart from the T-Mobile account app, there's really nothing about the T-Mobile version that you'd really care about. Different company, different useless bloatware. And as long as there's a T-Mobile SIM, you can still download the account app. If you just don't want anything "Verizon" about it, just google up a guide on what bloatware to disable and how to do it.
FYI, if you're in/around Tucson or Phoenix, supposedly this year we're finally going to get band 12. It's a 700MHz band (like Verizon's band 13), which, being a lower frequency travels further and penetrates buildings better. The Galaxy S5 does not support band 12 - it's not new enough. So if you're boiling your butt off in saguaro country like me, it might behoove you to get a newer phone. The reason we're waiting on band 12 is that there's a UHF TV station in Phoenix that conflicts with that frequency (and the broadcast radius clips the northern Tucson suburbs), but I guess the TV station is going to switch (probably with financial motivation from T-Mo).
If you're not in Tucson or Phoenix (I can't speak for Flagstaff), but in a more rural area, or just where there's poor LTE coverage, it still might behoove you to get a different phone rather than use your Verizon one. The problem is that it doesn't support T-Mobiles better/faster GSM bands, so you would get slower data speeds if not on LTE, even in an area with good HSPA+ or EDGE coverage.
Of course, the other option is simply to buy a T-Mobile phone (like a used S5 off of Swappa) then sell the Verizon one. Or find someone to trade with. An AT&T one would work as well as long as it's carrier unlocked (but not Sprint).
I don't have a car.
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The Verizon S5's bootloader is locked. If you don't know what that means, it means non-official software/firmware/OS/etc cannot be flashed to the device. Even if the bootloader wasn't locked, the phones (afaik) are physically different (modems/radios/etc) to work on different network technologies.
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Just saying, VZW s5 bootloader has been unlocked lately!
Won't make a difference for this user anyways....
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Just saying, VZW s5 bootloader has been unlocked lately!
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No kidding?
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No kidding?
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There's already 201 pages on the unlocking thread!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...t/rd-unlocking-galaxys-s5-bootloader-t3337909
Hey all,
I'm looking at getting an Exynos or an HK version of the S22 series. I saw none of the other versions besides the U supports bands 29 and 30 that AT&T uses. Since they seem to be the more minor bands, how much does it matter and how much does the lack of those bands impact service? And does AT&T ban those S22 versions from their 5G networks?
I'm starting to get tired of OP, but I want something I can tinker without having to deal with AT&T's Sammy versions.
Thanks!
AT&T won't support the international models on their network or so various users have said in other posts. You end up locked out. T-Mobile doesn't do this but the long range 5G and LTE band 71 is missing from the international versions which would mean no coverage in any areas using band 71. Either way you are screwed on AT&T and T-Mobile. Don't have any info on Verizon. Best suggestion is. (Don't Do It)
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AT&T won't support the international models on their network or so various users have said in other posts. You end up locked out. T-Mobile doesn't do this but the long range 5G and LTE band 71 is missing from the international versions which would mean no coverage in any areas using band 71. Either way you are screwed on AT&T and T-Mobile. Don't have any info on Verizon. Best suggestion is. (Don't Do It)
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Crap. Guess my only option would be getting an AT&T version and using a paid service to unlock the BL and SIM.
We already tried T-Mobile last year and had a really bad experience with service and network quality, so they're out.
Thanks for the info!
You might want to rethink the Exynos version and look at one of the SD versions that can be rooted.
I am afraid you will not be able to get the bootloader unlocked (I may be wrong there). Rooting is not possible on the US or Canadian S22. I just switched to TMO this year and so far have had no issues. I use their 5G home internet too.
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You might want to rethink the Exynos version and look at one of the SD versions that can be rooted.
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So is that the Hong Kong and Korea versions? Again brings up the question of if bands 29 and 30 missing impacts service and if so, how much.
If I get an AT&T BL unlocked with a paid service, can I root using the method listed in another thread?
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Crap. Guess my only option would be getting an AT&T version and using a paid service to unlock the BL and SIM.
We already tried T-Mobile last year and had a really bad experience with service and network quality, so they're out.
Thanks for the info!
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I don't see the S22 series in the list yet. So might wanna further research that.
PSA: Unlock Bootloader on Snapdragon Galaxy Devices with SamPWND (Paid Service)
SamPWND is a paid remote service that allows you to unlock the bootloader on Snapdragon Samsung Galaxy devices sold in the USA and Canada.
www.thecustomdroid.com
There are many posts on here attesting to the fact that the US models of the S22 cannot be rooted. The BL cannot be unlocked, so no root.
May I ask what you are trying to achieve with root? Do you have something in mind or do you just want a custom ROM. There are other issues with rooting the phone. Main one is loss of Knox. This will stop the Samsung apps from working. So there is a trade-off no matter what.
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May I ask what you are trying to achieve with root? Do you have something in mind or do you just want a custom ROM. There are other issues with rooting the phone. Main one is loss of Knox. This will stop the Samsung apps from working. So there is a trade-off no matter what.
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There are magisk mods I run on my phone as well as some Xposed mods.
Not terribly concerned about Samsung apps. I haven't had a Samsung phone in years. Last one I had was an S8 and I only got that thru insurance when I lost my OP6.
Understand. Just wanted to let you know that things like Samsung Pay and Health Monitoring will no longer work and this can not be fixed if you change your mind. I did read that AT&T will ban any international phone from their network, so you do not want to go that way if you intend on staying with them. I think there was talk about the Korean model being SD and was missing band 71 (I think). There is no full solution out there unless a way comes along to unlock the BL.
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Understand. Just wanted to let you know that things like Samsung Pay and Health Monitoring will no longer work and this can not be fixed if you change your mind. I did read that AT&T will ban any international phone from their network, so you do not want to go that way if you intend on staying with them. I think there was talk about the Korean model being SD and was missing band 71 (I think). There is no full solution out there unless a way comes along to unlock the BL.
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AT&T doesn't use 71, so not a big deal. T-Mo did.
We tried T-Mo in the summer and had a horrible experience. We went running back to AT&T after 3 months.
When you say banned, are you talking about just the 5G or the entire network? I'm already blocked from 5G with my OP phones. I can't say I miss it as I wasn't impressed with it on T-Mo, and LTE does what I need it to do. Outright banning seems like a stupid thing to do, especially as a lot of foreign travelers could very well end up using AT&T while they're here. But then again, it IS AT&T ...
From what I read, AT&T will ban your IEMI if it is an international phone so it will not work on their network. They are the only ones that do this as far as I know.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...lash-official-firmware-noob-friendly.4404283/
Check this out. Long read through all the posts, but may be able to answer your questions. There are other discussions on the US models and international models, so just look around.
You ain't gonna win with the U.S. Carriers. They absolutely don't want you rooting your phone on their networks. Why do you think all U.S. models have unlockable bootloader's when shipped from Samsung? Because they demand it. They also know you will try to get around it and when you do they will screw you by banning your device. If you gotta have a rooted phone move to another country lol.