Hi,
I have an ATT Family account, with 3 lines. Two lines (one of them mine) run smartphones, and have the $15/mo data plan. The third line is eligible for an upgrade. I was wondering if I can use that upgrade eligibility to upgrade my phone? I could pay for the new phone, and have it shipped to my address.
However, what I am concerned about is having data plan enabled on all the three lines. I definitely want to avoid that. Is there any way to upgrade that line to a smartphone, but then "transfer" the data plan to my line? That way, we still have 2 lines with data, 1 without, and I am using the newer phone.
I am new to USA, and the system of contracts here, so please pardon me if the question appears stupid
Thanks!
AT&T Does not allow data sharing (they are working on family data plans).
You cannot drop your data plan or transfer it because upon purchase of a smart phone you signed a contract for 2 years that you will sustain a $15 a month data plan.
Purchasing another smartphone will do just that (unless you buy off contract, but that isn't the case it seems).
Violating the contract is quite expensive. It's like $200 plus the amount of months still to pay off times 30 dollars.
Oh well.. that's what I feared. So there's absolutely no way to do it? Maybe coax them into a contract extension for my own line or something? (My line is around 10 months old I guess)
I think you must be 18 months in or pay the early termination fee. At 10 months, that's expensive. They could bend, but they are bound to a contract so I doubt it.
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you may have to pay a fee but it is possible to do that...
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Can anyone tell me if this would work? Hypothetically, I have a family plan with 3 lines. Line A, Line B and Line C.
Line A and Line C are eligible for an upgrade. Could I upgrade both to iPhone 4? That would cost either $424 - $636 depending if I decide 16GB or 32GB version. I would also have a data plan added for Line C (Line A already has unlimited). SO that is $15 per month.
Now could I just move the iPhone sim from Line C to a non-smartphone and would the data plan be canceled. And then after sell both iPhones for $1400-$1600. and continue to use the smartphone I previously had on Line A and continue to use a non-smartphone on Line C.
Would this work or would I be hit with any fees. Is this feasible?
Thanks,
~Mo
P.S. So far it seems I should be able to do this only problem I encountered is will I lose my Unlimited Data plan on Line A or will it be grandfathered in because it wasn't working online, it will work in a retail store correct?
Also, if this works what is a good price that I can quickly sell an iPhone 4 on ebay for? Are my prices accurate?
Nope. Part of the new ETF on AT&T is that you must keep the phone and data plan, they do this specifically to prevent people from doing exactly what you are trying to do.
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there is no possible way? is the ETF $300? I prefer to buy the Samsung Galaxy-S I9000 instead of the Captivate but can't justify paying that much extra unless I make the money doing something like this?
Some people I have asked said it will work as long as I don't cancel service and keep data plan for 30 days.
Anyone see a way to get a Thunderbolt when I have 9 months to go on my current contract? I realize I could pay full price but not looking to do so. Thanks for any suggestions. My current phone is an amoled incredible.
Add a line? $10. a month.
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Add a line? $10. a month.
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if you added a line and got the contract pricing wouldn't you also have to sign up for a data plan, which then cannot be removed without breaking the contract and incurring ETFs. then it'd be $10 + $29.99/month......seems buying retail would be better/equivalent to that.
ebay is always an option, but since it's so new it would be quite difficult to get anything much less than retail cost.
i don't know much about it but i've seen mention of early upgrade fees on verizon, maybe you could talk to verizon employees and see if you have any options there. i haven't had much luck with them but people have posted about experiences with verizon people where they are really accommodating and friendly.
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Anyone see a way to get a Thunderbolt when I have 9 months to go on my current contract? I realize I could pay full price but not looking to do so. Thanks for any suggestions. My current phone is an amoled incredible.
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Back when I got my Droid 1, I was only 12 months into my 2 year contract. VZW let me do an early upgrade but did charge me a $20.00 fee. I recomend you calling *611 from your phone.
good luck !!!
Verizon did the same with me for my tbolt. I was 13 months into contract, they let me upgrade for 2 year contract price + 25.00$
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Buy retail or try to get an early upgrade...
it is actually really annoying. everyone always wants the latest phones and cannot wait to get them... and then they scramble to find the best way to get them when they still have "x" months left in their contract (x usually being greater than 6, closer to 12).
at that point, why not just get a 1 year contract to begin with. pay the extra $70 for your device up front but then have the freedom and flexibility at 10 months to do as you choose (and be able to get a new device without trying to "work the system" and weasel your way out of a contract or find some fishy way to add another line). you will end up spending more if you do not get a 1 yr contract.
I am a firm believer of this!
*EDIT*: and Verizon does not always allow early upgrades for 2 yr contracts, so you cannot rely on that
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Buy retail or try to get an early upgrade...
it is actually really annoying. everyone always wants the latest phones and cannot wait to get them... and then they scramble to find the best way to get them when they still have "x" months left in their contract (x usually being greater than 6, closer to 12).
at that point, why not just get a 1 year contract to begin with. pay the extra $70 for your device up front but then have the freedom and flexibility at 10 months to do as you choose (and be able to get a new device without trying to "work the system" and weasel your way out of a contract or find some fishy way to add another line). you will end up spending more if you do not get a 1 yr contract.
I am a firm believer of this!
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That, I'm never getting another phone at a two-year contract ever again unless the whole market system changes with it, which i dont see happening.
Regardless, if you are stuck in a contract, do the add a line thing, as with that, you can get the new phone on a new line, then switch it over to a crappy cheap phone that doesn't need a data plan, and disable everything on it, so you're only paying the $10 a month for an extra line.
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Regardless, if you are stuck in a contract, do the add a line thing, as with that, you can get the new phone on a new line, then switch it over to a crappy cheap phone that doesn't need a data plan, and disable everything on it, so you're only paying the $10 a month for an extra line.
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maybe i'm not well-versed on verizon's contract terms. are you all sure that the contract doesn't forbid cancelling the data plan? i was basing my knowledge on an experience with at&t more than two years ago, haha. at that time i did the secondary line upgrade to get a new blackberry and at&t's terms were that in order to get an upgrade price it is required to sign up for a data package. the loophole there for me was that the data plan could be cancelled after two months at no cost at all. later on a friend who tried to do the same thing as me could not because at&t changed their policy and would not allow people to remove data plans after two months without an ETF.
is verizon's policy better and either doesn't require a data plan upon upgrade or allows you to remove it immediately after upgrading? (note: i tried to look up verizon's policy on this by going to the site and pretending to be a new customer but it started to ask for payment and personal info before showing me the terms and conditions. it did require me to sign up for a data plan when purchasing a smartphone though) i'm curious to know what the fine details are.
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if you added a line and got the contract pricing wouldn't you also have to sign up for a data plan, which then cannot be removed without breaking the contract and incurring ETFs. then it'd be $10 + $29.99/month......seems buying retail would be better/equivalent to that.
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make sure you have an older dumbphone to transfer your existing line to. then you can drop data to your heart's content.
i have done this twice now, once for x and once for thunderbolt. $10/mo each.
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maybe i'm not well-versed on verizon's contract terms. are you all sure that the contract doesn't forbid cancelling the data plan? i was basing my knowledge on an experience with at&t more than two years ago, haha. at that time i did the secondary line upgrade to get a new blackberry and at&t's terms were that in order to get an upgrade price it is required to sign up for a data package. the loophole there for me was that the data plan could be cancelled after two months at no cost at all. later on a friend who tried to do the same thing as me could not because at&t changed their policy and would not allow people to remove data plans after two months without an ETF.
is verizon's policy better and either doesn't require a data plan upon upgrade or allows you to remove it immediately after upgrading? (note: i tried to look up verizon's policy on this by going to the site and pretending to be a new customer but it started to ask for payment and personal info before showing me the terms and conditions. it did require me to sign up for a data plan when purchasing a smartphone though) i'm curious to know what the fine details are.
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From the experiences I've had and others who've posted about it, the only restriction AFAIK from verizon is that you need a data plan on the line when you activate the phone on that line, so you'd need to add a data plan on the line when a smartphone is activated for it. However, if the phone isn't a smartphone, i've been able to add and remove the data to the line as needed (I've had an old enV phone where theres been a few times where I've needed the data, so I've just turned on the data plan for the two weeks or so, and never gotten charged outside of that, or fees)
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make sure you have an older dumbphone to transfer your existing line to. then you can drop data to your heart's content.
i have done this twice now, once for x and once for thunderbolt. $10/mo each.
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i have an old blackberry pearl flip, does that count? seeing that it is a blackberry i would think it doesn't......
but a follow-up question i have is that is it worth it paying the extra $10/month? price speculation for tbolt: $319 for 1-year contract, add the $10/month for a year = $120 for a total of $439. retail is $599 so you save $160.....as opposed to paying $319 alone and saving $280. i guess for someone with an upgrade available the method of adding a line and then moving the new phone saves you an upgrade and costs $120 more to get the tbolt. so you are paying an extra $120 above the cost of the phone itself to save your upgrade.
makes more sense for someone with no upgrade option then.
But i didn't think it could be just 10 dollars a month. The phones are required to have their own 29.99 data plan
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Thanks all I'm thinking *611 and see if I'm eligible for that early upgrade and will do the 1 year contract.
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make sure you have an older dumbphone to transfer your existing line to. then you can drop data to your heart's content.
i have done this twice now, once for x and once for thunderbolt. $10/mo each.
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Or call Verizon and tell them you no longer want a phone on that line and they'll put a dummy ESN on it. That's what I did the last time I pulled the add a line and drop it for a discount.
It turns out I'm eligible for the early upgrade on 5/10 of this year which puts me on my incredible for 1 year. My full upgrade is up on 1/10/12. So I guess I'll see what's out there in May. Thanks again.
just keep calling *611 and get someone that is nice. after 4 calls to CS i begged the lady to ask her supervisor to advance my upgrade (from Dec.). I paid the $20.00 fee. good luck.
I found an official document on verizon's FAQs under "Worry Free Guarantee". Easier to get to through google. When I have the link I can post it.
Basically it states that if you are in a two year plan already you will be able to take advantage of one more annual upgrade at discount price or if you so choose wait until your 20th month and get your "New Every Two" credit.
I had to print this sheet and make sure the full url was across the top in order to show it to a verizon rep. He then put a remark under my account stating that I was indeed elgible for an early upgrade. The problem is just with the changes verizon is now implementing.
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I bought my thunderbolt on craigslist for $540. Was a little shady as the guy didn't have the box, but had all the accessories Verizon employee maybe? Just can't imagine how a day old phone is missing the box. Anyway I activated the phone with no issue.
When you guys are paying the $20 or whatever to get the early upgrade, so they just reset your account so that Wirefly/Amazon/etc see you as upgrade eligible, or do you then have to buy the phone from VZW? I'd like to upgrade 4 months early (and have multiple lines to upgrade, so the "new every 2" would only take care of one phone) but I don't want to pay VZW an extra $50/phone if I can avoid it.
They are sadly apparently getting rid of the annual upgrade feature Anyway should you want to go the full retail route I got mine cheapest through VZW at 599.99 vs the 749.99 it seemed to be listed everywhere else. I don't get my annual upgrade which they are still honoring for the time being until July of this year (still can get it should I want to grab another device this summer).
The only reason I could see to upgrade earlier than your annual upgrade date is in the off chance verizon changes the way they do 4G data plans for new 4G phones at that point? Currently they are offering 4G at 3G data prices w/ unlimited data, and they can't suddenly start charging those of us who are on these unlimited plans more or force us to the tiered plan concept... so we'd be grandfathered in sorta like the unlimited data AT&T users are currently. Was the main reason for me jumping the gun and upgrading early at full retail, that and the speeds are amazing.
Hi, i am a student from Vietnam, but studying at United States right now. This is my first year at United States, so i haven't signed a contract yet because i know i will be back Vietnam for a little bit (for about ~4 months). I will be back here on September, 2011 and i think i am going to sign a 2-year contract and get a Windows Phone 7 Device because my currect monthly-contract with T-Mobile is kinda expensive i think...
i am current having the HTC HD7 T-Mobile T9292, bought on ebay. Work perfectly,i am loving it. And September seem to be far away, and HD7 is not a "failed" device, somebody would wonder why i create this thread.
But today, when i went back from the school, i suddenly dropped my HD7 to the ground quite hard and it had no cover at all ( i forgot to put the black-silicon cover for it because i was leaving in hurry in the morning). The phone was damaged physically outside, top right corner ( but still working, no problem while operating the phone) and it looks ugly. I am kinda a person who have a "eye-infinity", want to own something look sexy (that why i bought the HD7). So, when the phone is damaged and cannot be fixed, i get mad (not really, lol ) and there is one thing run across my head, "I am going to have a new phone" .
basically, i know nothing about signing a contract with a wiress-provider. If someone can give me some info that would be great. I am a Microsoft-Fan, and Windows Phone 7 is great to use. But now it get me really confuse. I don't know which phone i am going to get.
HTC HD7 is fine, since i have some special respect to HTC because they always make cool phones, but it has some issue, like "Pink-Camera", TFT-LCD only... Now, we even have a HD7S from AT&T. And again, i don't know which carrier to choose. People said AT&T is expensive, but has a better coverage than T-Mobile...blah...blah...blah. Even Android is not that bad. I am really confuse.
If someone can help me out, that would be great!
PS: I will be at St.Peterburg, FL next year, if someone are going to answer my question about coverage! Thanks!
Why not just order a replacement housing for it instead of signing up for a contract?
http://cgi.ebay.com/USA-Original-HT...ltDomain_0&hash=item3cb77dea52#ht_2185wt_1208
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Why not just order a replacement housing for it instead of signing up for a contract?
http://cgi.ebay.com/USA-Original-HT...ltDomain_0&hash=item3cb77dea52#ht_2185wt_1208
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or put a cover on it ?
or buy anything off craigslist... a two year contract with the devil, for a phone you can pick up for $200 locally ?
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Why not just order a replacement housing for it instead of signing up for a contract?
http://cgi.ebay.com/USA-Original-HT...ltDomain_0&hash=item3cb77dea52#ht_2185wt_1208
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Thanks for the link. But i have another question. If i sign a new contract (to T-Mobile for example), can i use my old phone? Or i must have another one?
I want to sign a contract because i cannot handle $50 /month plan for the whole year (Unlimited Talk and text, 100mb data). I choose that plan only beacause i want the "Data", i use the EGRPS/3G more than talk and texting. My friend who have a iPhone 4 AT&T, pay $25/month, and has 2GB Data, 2year contract.
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or put a cover on it ?
or buy anything off craigslist... a two year contract with the devil, for a phone you can pick up for $200 locally ?
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I have the silicon cover for it. It cover the damaged part pretty well. But the idea of signing a contract here is having the Data Usage ( i am a heavily 3G/EGPRS user). I don't need Unlimited talk and text but i need EGPRS so that why i need to choose the plan $50/month...
Plus, remember, most likely AT&T will be merging with T-Mobile within 12 months or so. So, being with one or the other in the long run won't matter & signing a contract with T-Mobile, you may be able to cancel your contact free of charge in a yr. In the USA, you're allowed to cancel a contract free of charge when there's a merger of this type. Also, T-Mobile is cheaper than AT&T & in my experience has better service. I've seen many AT&T users not have signer where I do with T-Mobile, granted non of this matter once the merger is complete.
First thing to mention using an existing device, AT&T & T-Mobile have different 3G frequencies so a T-Mobile device won't get 3G on AT&T. Now they both are GSM & so have SIM Cards so you can reuse your device, just get a cheap free phone with your new contract.
I look at the Windows Phone Chart today, and i don't think any current device is better than HD7, since i have already gotten used to the 4.3 inch screen, it is hard to switch to something smaller than 4 inch.
Dell Venue now is a good choice, but i actually don't like the design that much, and Dell is not really famous in Smartphone category.
ASUS also has a plan for a Windows Phone 7 Device, same as HTC ( a new ad about Windows Phone 7 HTC Device with 16mp Camera and Front Camera for video call) ... and i think they are quite sexy to compare to the HD7.
I was just checking both AT&T & T-Mobile's plans & the cheapest Talk/Text/Web I see is $60 for T-Mobile (500 Mins) & $75 for AT&T (450 Mins w/ Roll Over, $39.99 Talk/$20.00 Text/$15.00 Web). Both have Unlimited Text & 200 MB Data.
So, you have signed the contract to T-Mobile? What is your current plan? (How much per month?) and What is the cheapeast plan that T-Mobile provide?
I have Unlimited Talk/Unlimited Text on 5 lines & Unlimited Web on 1 line. Our bill is $314.05 (With Taxes/Fees/Etc.). T-Mobile does have an Unlimited Talk/Text/Web deal for $80 for a single line.
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I have Unlimited Talk/Unlimited Text on 5 lines & Unlimited Web on 1 line. Our bill is $314.05 (With Taxes/Fees/Etc.). T-Mobile does have an Unlimited Talk/Text/Web deal for $80 for a single line.
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Do you have any suggestion? 200MB Web is not that bad if i use EGPRS only... but 3G maybe a little bit different, since i am not always home or any cafe' to have Wifi... I may get crazy one day and use all my data in watching video on YouTube!
But i can't believe that my friend can get $25/month, and 2GB Web Data on AT&T for iPhone 4!
I highly doubt he's only paying $25 a month. I believe that to be just for Data, not including talk/text. I pay $30 a month for my Unlimited Data, the 200 MB Data is only $15. AT&T does not have an Unlimited Data plan. They have the 200 MB & 2 GB plans.
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I highly doubt he's only paying $25 a month. I believe that to be just for Data, not including talk/text. I pay $30 a month for my Unlimited Data, the 200 MB Data is only $15. AT&T does not have an Unlimited Data plan. They have the 200 MB & 2 GB plans.
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So, if you sign a contract, you can pay separately between call/texting and Web Data? That sould really cool to me...
Are you having unlimited data for your HD7?
Correct, my plan is a shared family plan of Unlimited Talk/Text for all 5 lines. My line has it's own Unlimited Data. I prefer to be safe for the extra $15 & not have to worry about data usage.
Thank you very much about the T-Mobile's Plan sir!
Look like i am going to have a contract with T-Mobile... The problem now, is waiting for some Cool Windows Phone 7 Device come out... and hopefully... t-mobile will have it
Just called T-Mobile about their new 49.99 unlimited plan to find out some info because my other half and my daughter are on a plan together and the bill is over 200 a month .... The Rep told me there's a $200 migration fee PER LINE then the price of a new phone because we were going to get our daughter a new phone... I asked the Rep who in their right mind would want to pay a $200 migration fee per line.... They make like the plan is so great but oh wait then there's a migration fee of 200.... I told the Rep I was amazed that Tmo is charging that... I've paid a $35 fee but come on... She agreed its crazy and said she actually only heard of two people doing it.... And to add to all that craziness your not eligible for upgrade discounts anymore on that plan.. The higher ups at Tmo are losing it...
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Isn't the migration fee basically a contract termination fee?
So you terminate, hopefully they have recent phones, You sell those phones for 200 each (if they are recent one could be more or less), you offset you phone cost, you then get the new G2x's at the free price. Yes its a new contract, you paid to terminate the old one, you are a new customer again.
If they have G2x's selling the used models at 200 is simple. It one heck of an IPOD music player at that price, combined with all the GPS and wifi usage.
Hopefully they have new phones. The raw deal, it takes 8 months to break even with 400 out of pocket.
The phones are un subsidized, they wouldn't be free. The plan is for people who already have phones.
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Just called T-Mobile about their new 49.99 unlimited plan to find out some info because my other half and my daughter are on a plan together and the bill is over 200 a month .... The Rep told me there's a $200 migration fee PER LINE then the price of a new phone because we were going to get our daughter a new phone... I asked the Rep who in their right mind would want to pay a $200 migration fee per line.... They make like the plan is so great but oh wait then there's a migration fee of 200.... I told the Rep I was amazed that Tmo is charging that... I've paid a $35 fee but come on... She agreed its crazy and said she actually only heard of two people doing it.... And to add to all that craziness your not eligible for upgrade discounts anymore on that plan.. The higher ups at ATT have lost it...
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The acquisition of T-Mobile by AT&T has not been approved as of yet. T-Mobile and AT&T are currently acting as if nothing has changed and are still competing companies at this time. AT&T does not have authority to dictate pricing plans to T-Mobile's managers, otherwise you would have seen those plans skyrocket to much higher prices.
As far as I can tell T-Mobile is attempting to draw customers back in due to the giant gaping hole that customers have been jumping out of ever since AT&T announced their plans to purchase the company. One of the few ways that T-Mobile can compete against other cell companies in this country is by lowering the price, and in this instance that means removing the subsidy fees usually placed into plans by default. One of the reasons that cell plans in this country are so god-forsakenly high is because of the stupid subsidies people accept on their phones, including upgrade pricing.
Sure, you pay a lot less up front but you end up making up that cost and much, much more through the extra dime you pay on your monthly bill. That, and with the contract you cut your own arm off if you choose to leave. Sometimes it's better to pay $400-600 for a phone up front and not face $20-40 (a) extra a month and $200-300 ETF. That's just my opinion, however, and everyone is free to do how they please.
a. The only problem here is that most USA carriers don't have off-contract plans that are equivalent to their regular plans at a lower price. For a long time T-Mobile did; it was called FlexPay and you could get an off-contract plan equivalent to their regular plans just $20 cheaper. That's $200 every 10 months. I'm not sure if any of the four major carriers carry anything equivalent any longer.
Last time I checked though you should be able to switch plans on T-Mobile while on contract, so there isn't any reason anyone should be telling you you have to pay an ETF to switch to another on-contract plan. I would call and request to speak to a manager for clarification. Now, if it was switching to an off-contract plan that's a whole different story.
I in the past I have switched from a contract to a no contract plan and back to a contract plan and only paid a $35 fee each time I think it was... Definitely not a $200 fee ... Its crazy... This is no way to draw in customers .... Sure they'll tell you they can break up the fee in monthly installments but you still lose and they win...
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this is by far the stupidest plan ever and i can. hate it hate it.
so you pay 99.99 for 2 lines.. BUT you buy a G2x at 149.99 down payment. and pay 15$ a month ( paying 450 total) for 20 months.
its EVEN MORE PLUS with a contact...
to top it off you want to cancel you pay $200+ remaining phone so it can easily be $350+!!
talk about bent over and done wrong!
The fine print for this plan states "If you switch plans you may be bound by existing or extended contract term (including early cancellation provisions) and/or charged up to a $200 fee." Seems kind of ridiculous for changing from one contract term to another. Appears they are charging a termination fee and then starting a new contract. If you are going to do that you might as well get two new phones in the deal also.
That plan in general is dumb. If cheap pricing is really what someone is after they should be looking at Sprint not one of the other big carriers. With student discount my 450 minutes, unlimited data/unlimited text plan is $55/mo.
I realize this is probably not the best place to post this...and possibly this doesn't even belong on this forum at all. But if you have ATT, please I would appreciate any thoughts you have about this.
I was previously on a family share plan with 4 other members of my family. I was pretty happy with the plan we had. Now I have taken the leap to dump 3 grandfathered UL data plans, and shift over to a mobile share account, which saves me about $100 per month in service charges, and still gives me nearly double the data I need for our group.
The thing I still can't quite get my head around with this plan, is the way they option your upgrades. I have seen the math, and realize the best way to do an upgrade on this plan is to do the Next program, and basically pay retail rent over the next 18-24 months, maybe finish out the lease to own the phone I'm renting...maybe just toss it back to upgrade to a new device.
But I just don't buy into it. For some reason, maybe I'm too frugal, I can't stomach the thought of paying retail for a phone. Even though I know it's cheaper overall than doing it the way I used to do it (pay $200 upfront for a device, and pay an extra $30 or so per line per month towards my contract price).
I find myself clinging to my working phone, with no plan of attack in mind for how I will actually do my next upgrade. And my whole family of users is getting antsy for upgrades. Everyone is off contract now, but I don't even know how to explain to them all how this new structure works. If we all upgrade we pay a rental fee every month and there goes that $100+ savings, now we are paying more than before on the old family plan, so why did I switch?
Help me figure out how to make sense of it all...and where to go from here...please!