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Does your Raphael heat up while talking?

I have noticed a major heating sometimes when making a phonecall, and I mean it becomes really hot...
Im not using the GPS what seems to be causing overheating to some users.
also please post your radioversion etc if you have this type of problems...

Make sure you don't hold the phone near where the battery is. If you look at the manual you will be exposed to dangerously high radiation levels! If you cover it with your finger or hand the phone module goes into high power mode which could account for the heat problem.

Well yes I did some investigating and it does not happen always. I think it could be happening when taking a phone call after charging. By this I don’t mean it’s hot when unplugging the device, it keeps getting hotter and hotter while speaking.
topspeclt said:
Make sure you don't hold the phone near where the battery is. If you look at the manual you will be exposed to dangerously high radiation levels! If you cover it with your finger or hand the phone module goes into high power mode which could account for the heat problem.
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What, my package and manual are put away. Sorry, I didn’t understand 100%, where I can’t place my finger exactly?

I looked at the manual and did not find anything unusual… What did you mean?

There is a wiki nearby, with links to the on-line manuals
(the part below the battery is where the antenna is )

Ok now that you said antenna I found the part from the manual, if you look at the previous post he says only don’t hold your finger near the battery…. The battery is ½ of the phone…
But seriously am I the only one that thinks this is TOTALLY crazy that if you hold your phone normally from the bottom half you will be exposed to DANGEROUS LEVELS OF RADIATION??? I have had mobiles for 15 years and this is the first one that cant be held in your hand without looking how you hold it…
Are others also experiencing overheating sometimes?

Yep, I said 'battery' - if you look at the picture in the manual (page 10 - see attachment below). The danger zone is bottom 1/3 of the back surface area.
As far as i'm concerned this device should not have had certification and approval for use because NORMAL handling includes the bottom part of the phone. They expect you to be at least 1.5cm away from it too so in practical terms it is extremely difficult and inconvenient to hold. If you hold the top part your palm will cover or get near the bottom anyway so their constraint is ridiculous.
I wasn't aware of this when I first used the phone and I remember my fingers getting hot with a sharp pain.
This device should therefore NOT have safety approval because the context of operation does not include normal and reasonable handling.
So you have to ask yourself: is the HTC Touch Pro worth getting cancer over?

Yes I found that page after I searched the manual "antenna"... That just sounds crazy to me...
But still I don’t know did the SERIOUS overheating I had resulted from that. I couldn’t replicate it... It could be it was caused by the charging before I answered.
I have to pay more attention to that, because I think I had it happen before also.

excuse me, topspeclt, but if you are that worried, why do you use a mobile phone

The top of the phone got really hot. The steel around the camera lens was so hot I could not keep my finger over it… I don’t know, am I the only one experiencing this type of behaviour?

karloe said:
excuse me, topspeclt, but if you are that worried, why do you use a mobile phone
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I used a Nokia N73 prior to this and no probs. So I'm in for a little dosage. But the handling contraint with the TP is a joke. I end up using the headset now because I can't maintain the ridiculous holding position without receiving hazardous SAR levels.
My observation is one that affects ALL users of the HTC TP and not necessarily other brands.
Had I known this BEFORE I bought the HTC TP I would have skipped it. Damn good for nothing 'Reviewers'.

Loco5150 said:
The top of the phone got really hot. The steel around the camera lens was so hot I could not keep my finger over it… I don’t know, am I the only one experiencing this type of behaviour?
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That doesn't sound right at all. My TP doesn't get that hot. You might want to swap it (if you can) or call HTC support.

I have to duplicate it and see when exactly it happens…
I’ve noticed it happening few times, but didn’t pay that much attention to it because I use the HF when I’m not home. I started to use that a year ago when there was more talk about the radiation. I talk about 2hrs a day, so the tumours are probably on their way already. Its much more convenient anyway to use the HF.
I got full warranty so I will chance the device when I have confirmed this.
I have to say also that I came from Kaiser WAY too soon… I should have given the real cooks and wizards of XDA few months to find and fix the major bugs for HTC (mind you, they are doing it for FREE to them). I just got a too good of a deal; I got this device almost for the price of my old Kaiser.

No one is experiencing heating around the camera flash/lens area when talking?
Plase confirm so I know do I need to return the device.

I have the same problem sometimes. But it is not conected to making phonecalls. I expreienced this temperture phenomen while browsig the web (wifi) and I think some other situations.
I'll keep an eye on that problem and let you know when it happens again.
I had this problem with my xda orbit 2 as well (when using tomtom while the phoen was plugged in for chargching)

Loco5150 said:
The top of the phone got really hot. The steel around the camera lens was so hot I could not keep my finger over it… I don’t know, am I the only one experiencing this type of behaviour?
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Perhaps a visit to HTC service centre?

I haven't had this extreme heating yet.
The TP becomes warm while charging, GPS use, Wifi, and even calls, but not to that extend that you can burn your fingers on the lense area.
I think your TP has a hardware problem.

Loco5150 said:
No one is experiencing heating around the camera flash/lens area when talking?
Plase confirm so I know do I need to return the device.
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My first TP have battery problem and really heat up at the camera metal area when using call/apps. I got a replacement and the new unit don't heat up so fast or so much.

First of all, I don't think that you can possibly expose yourself to any dangerous levels of radiation, no matter how you hold your TP. The SAR tests are done anyway with maximum transmit power, so if you hold your phone from the bottom part and so impair the reception the phone gets, you can only get the official specified SAR levels at most. It does increase battery usage (hence not recommended), as the phone needs to use more transmit power, but the SAR levels are definitely safe - always at or below spec. The design were the phone antenna is at the bottom of the phone is actually very advantageous from SAR point of view, because the antenna element is further away from your brain --> less radiation. However, I do agree that for best reception (holding the phone from the upper part) the handling of the phone is a bit awkward. HTC probably just put the "dangerous levels of radiation" warning there to keep off any possible Americans waiting to sue their a**
Also, looking at the back part of my TP, it seems that the Wifi and GPS antennas are at the top of the phone, so getting hot around the camera lens/upper area while using these features should be expected. Again, I think this is actually quite a good setup, as the phone and wifi/gps antennas are as far away from each other as possible, thus interference between different antennas is kept minimal.
Oh yeah, and you should definitely not burn your fingers on your phone, there's something wrong if you really did (it can get quite warm, but not that hot).
Just my 0.02

My TP aint that warm, but it does get a little warm when playing games but not hot, only a bit warm.
Time to put fans into mobile phones

Captivate Now Perfect

After Froyo leak, the Cappy is now officially an almost perfect phone. GPS works great at stock settings for over 1 week now. I use NDrive GPS app, and I get lock in like 10 secs. Whole trip is accurate to 5-10 feet with no lag. I don't turn on GPS status or anything like that, but I do have to leave it on the dashboard of my car. If I hold it in the passenger's seat or back seat, the antenna doesn't seem to be strong enough to hold accurate lock. Google navigation isn't working accurately for me. I don't know why.
Daily unplug random shut downs now resolved with turning off GPS when charging.
2.2 is fast even at unrooted state.
Android phone functions are just awesome. It's a great PDA and a great phone.
Hope others are experiencing the same. My GPS was mostly unusable when I first got it.

gordec said:
but I do have to leave it on the dashboard of my car. If I hold it in the passenger's seat or back seat, the antenna doesn't seem to be strong enough to hold accurate lock.
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That has been my experience as well. Took it on a 400 mile road trip from Richmond, VA to Mt. Pleasant, SC and it did fantastic as long as it was sitting on my dash, constant lock.

yes Google navigation sucks.
Edit: That was a little harsh.
The truth is it looks awesome. Good job Googies!
But the voice is truly horrible, and the accuracy is useless most of the time.

gordec said:
but I do have to leave it on the dashboard of my car. If I hold it in the passenger's seat or back seat, the antenna doesn't seem to be strong enough to hold accurate lock. Google navigation isn't working accurately for me. I don't know why.
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+1 Same goes for me, since I did gsm reset (use with care, will wipe your data) navigation works as long as
the phone is on the dashboard/attached to the windshield and finally I started to enjoy this phone, I'll keep it.
Flashed to cog2b6, works great.

Tap and pinch to zoom is buggy.
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Getting rid of mine. GPS on dash, need for lag fix, random shutdowns, all very frustrating for a top of the line phone.
To me it was just unbearable. Ill miss a lot of it but not all of it.
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you'll miss the screen.
so big.
so bright.
pdxrealtor said:
Getting rid of mine. GPS on dash, need for lag fix, random shutdowns, all very frustrating for a top of the line phone.
To me it was just unbearable. Ill miss a lot of it but not all of it.
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Actually side by side to the G2 its not that much of a downgrade.
That's another thing about the captivate- the screen is tinted blue! Others I've read are tinted more yellowish or reddish. But wait- there's a fix for that! Lol.
Honestly I really wanted to like the captivate.
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I agree.. never had to tweak a phone so much to make it usable.
But - with the latest and greatest Cognition the phone is definitely usable. My only complaint is battery life due to the AMOLED screen being a battery hog. Even with it dimmed it eats more battery than a fat kid at a Hostess Twinkies convention.

avgjoegeek said:
I agree.. never had to tweak a phone so much to make it usable.
My only complaint is battery life due to the AMOLED screen being a battery hog. Even with it dimmed it eats more battery than a fat kid at a Hostess Twinkies convention.
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You're not lieing. Yet another issue. Cognition was/is great. Really made the phone what it should be.
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I can't really comment on the GPS much but the phone works fine otherwise. This is in comparison to my previous tilt 2 which locked up several times a day.
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bwolmarans said:
But the voice is truly horrible, and the accuracy is useless most of the time.
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I friend "loved" that voice so much I told her I was getting her a droid for Christmas just so she could have that GPS help.

bwolmarans said:
you'll miss the screen.
so big.
so bright.
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you can go with this (captivate)...or you can go with that (G2)
lol
j/k. i figured bwolmarans would get a kick out of that. i love that commerical too
pdxrealtor, i'm sorry you had so many problems with your captivate, and i hope you're enjoying your G2. i wouldn't say the captivate is perfect, but it's definitely more fun than my old iphone

I got my Cap about two weeks ago. I grabbed the leaked froyo, threw it on with OCLF and this phone is truely a work of art. It has no issues with restarting or any other issue of that sort (current uptime's 4 days, no perf loss). It did have lag issues with eclair but with froyo and oclf, this thing flies. No battery drain issues. No nothing... Not even a blue (or red or yellow) tint, just that halo-creating supersaturation thing.
Gps, havent had much of an issue using it in downtown san francisco with its high rises and me not having a dash that can keep the phone from sliding off when accelerating. But my phone's not a garmin and with everything else it does with great aplumb, having an underperforming gps is okay with me. If i needed a 100% reliable gps for my job or something, id go down to pep boys and get a dedicated gps. In all honesty, if you have a Cap, you can afford a 50 dollar garmin. And if you cant, youre living beyond your means, stop trying to be something your not for the sake of pride and envy, theres more to life than bragging on facebook, etc., etc.
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+1
teh_Gnar said:
I got my Cap about two weeks ago. I grabbed the leaked froyo, threw it on with OCLF and this phone is truely a work of art. It has no issues with restarting or any other issue of that sort (current uptime's 4 days, no perf loss). It did have lag issues with eclair but with froyo and oclf, this thing flies. No battery drain issues. No nothing... Not even a blue (or red or yellow) tint, just that halo-creating supersaturation thing.
Gps, havent had much of an issue using it in downtown san francisco with its high rises and me not having a dash that can keep the phone from sliding off when accelerating. But my phone's not a garmin and with everything else it does with great aplumb, having an underperforming gps is okay with me. If i needed a 100% reliable gps for my job or something, id go down to pep boys and get a dedicated gps. In all honesty, if you have a Cap, you can afford a 50 dollar garmin. And if you cant, youre living beyond your means, stop trying to be something your not for the sake of pride and envy, theres more to life than bragging on facebook, etc., etc.
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May have accidently solved the "death grip", partly!!

HI Guys,
Well as the title suggests!!
It started with me holding my sensation, pretty much covering the back of it and my thumbs crossed over at the lower end of the screen, while typing an sms, when I noticed that I would lose signal, and it would actually go away in low signal areas... well.. i thought its the death grip and never gave it much attention...
What i again noticed was that if i pressed the left middle of the screen, it would actually move a bit, giving me the thought that maybe it was losely fit.. so I opened th back cover and pressed the battery in and noticed a very slight fractional gap..
So I put a two layer piece of a double sided tape (obviously kept the out still sealed so that the battery doesnt stick to the cover), on the (now) right of the battery... very slight.. something like 1/2 an inch by 1/4 of an inch size!
Put the cover back, ofcourse the gap was filled.. but now just noticed that the signal doesnt lose as much with the same way of holding and in the same locations.
I know this is not ideal, atleast nothing is visible on our beautiful sensation and all of it is within covers..
Would really appreciate if you guys can test this as well
Cheers!

It's worth a shot Thanks!

lemme know how it goes!

192 views... can some of you check this as well.. will be helpful!!

A picture please?

Seems quite simple.. but it is somehow insulating some areas to give better signal...

Waiting for others to confirm, before going out and buy tape
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ridikolous said:
Waiting for others to confirm, before going out and buy tape
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I guess everyone else is waiting for others to confirm.. LOL...

i too had problems with death grip on mine but it all seems sorted now, not through this method but because of some settings i have changed and now its all working fine =].
at first i was getting 2 bars then straight dead and at random it wud shoot to 4bars for couple of seconds or so then bk to usual 2 bars.
the settings i changed were go to......
settings/wireless &networks/mobile networks/network mode
the default settings were set to "gsm/wcdma auto" i changed from that to "gsm only" and this has seemed to have sorted my signal "deathgrip"
so anyone suffering from signal loss give this a shot and let me know if this method works for any of you.

pompy said:
i too had problems with death grip on mine but it all seems sorted now, not through this method but because of some settings i have changed and now its all working fine =].
at first i was getting 2 bars then straight dead and at random it wud shoot to 4bars for couple of seconds or so then bk to usual 2 bars.
the settings i changed were go to......
settings/wireless &networks/mobile networks/network mode
the default settings were set to "gsm/wcdma auto" i changed from that to "gsm only" and this has seemed to have sorted my signal "deathgrip"
so anyone suffering from signal loss give this a shot and let me know if this method works for any of you.
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I tried the network thing, it didnt work on GSM only and didnt give a better signal in the wcdma only node, so i reverted it back . ( my network is 850/2100 )
as for the battery voodoo , i'm willing to do this, but please give some more info.. a picture would be perfect. i'm not going to put bits of tape all over the battery..

wow i dont get death grip hmm must be somthing your doing infact if your tryna get death grip you will, so stop looking for it and it wont happen

Dandandroid said:
I tried the network thing, it didnt work on GSM only and didnt give a better signal in the wcdma only node, so i reverted it back . ( my network is 850/2100 )
as for the battery voodoo , i'm willing to do this, but please give some more info.. a picture would be perfect. i'm not going to put bits of tape all over the battery..
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Picture is already posted in post # 6.

phonegod said:
wow i dont get death grip hmm must be something your doing infact if your tryna get death grip you will, so stop looking for it and it wont happen
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Just cause your phone doesn't suffer from deathgrip doesn't mean our's doesn't. we have deathgrip without holding it in a way that would cause deathgrip, i gently hold it in my hand in landscape or gaming method of holding, it loses all of the wifi bars and i'm not even grabbing or squeezing it like a tit like most of the others do.
so yeah we are not trying hard it just so happens to knock it self off easily. so please take this into consideration.
$600 dollar phone, i do not expect it to knock off on me when grabbing it, even the missus don't do that lol

Not kidding.. i really do see a noticeable difference.. and I was always on GSM mode only.. not for the death grip.. but mostly for the battery!!
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C0NAN said:
Picture is already posted in post # 6.
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ok tried it ..
it actually made it worse ! before i had 2-3 bars now i have 1-2 bars ...
but, maybe your on to somthing. it did change the reception, maybe i didnt put it exactly where u have, or it had different conductivity ( i used a piece of card )
so its worth a try for everyone with signal issues, i recon .

Dandandroid said:
ok tried it ..
it actually made it worse ! before i had 2-3 bars now i have 1-2 bars ...
but, maybe your on to somthing. it did change the reception, maybe i didnt put it exactly where u have, or it had different conductivity ( i used a piece of card )
so its worth a try for everyone with signal issues, i recon .
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I used a double sided tape, ofcourse with the side on to the cover still covered..
a Card may conduct the reception.. i think we need an insulator...

I rarely noticed the death grip..
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prateekgujral said:
I used a double sided tape, ofcourse with the side on to the cover still covered..
a Card may conduct the reception.. i think we need an insulator...
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the cardboard should insulate .. it was even folded in half,
but maybe i'll get me some double tape and try it again.
but i do think is more RADIO firmware related..

Dandandroid said:
the cardboard should insulate .. it was even folded in half,
but maybe i'll get me some double tape and try it again.
but i do think is more RADIO firmware related..
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Give it a shot and let me know how it goes.. remember my op, it was mainly to avoid that gap.. so i put 3 layers.. LOL

I don't know about anyone else, but my WiFi signal drops a bit when I cover the top of the phone. Forget that ridiculous grip that was initially shown.. just cover most of the top of the phone (especially the back where the holes are) and you should see the signal drop.
It's important to note that even when the signal drops I can still use the phone. It only bothers me when I'm sitting there staring at the bars.
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GPS Problems? Possible Hardware Solution

So I came across this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1101066) thread in the DHD forum the other day, and had mixed feelings about it. In theory it makes sense, but in practice it seems kind of scary. Anyway, I've had GPS issues on and off since I got my Inspire, sometimes it would work excellent, sometimes it would kind of work, sometimes it wouldn't work at all. I've tried every software solution I could think of (new radios, gps script, reinstalling locations, wiping EFS partition, etc), and I figured my problem had to be hardware, but I'd never seen a hardware solution offered until I came across this thread. First off I would like to say that I have not tried this fix yet, however I'm inclined to and here's why:
After reading this, I started thinking, "OK, so it's just not getting good enough pressure on the GPS antennae contacts, wonder what would happen if I tried to apply manual pressure?" So I launched GPS Test and watched it find 2 or 3 satellites, but didn't lock after about a minute. So I applied pressure to the battery flash/GPS cover, 1 finger on the top of it 1 finger on the bottom, making sure not to cover the hole. What happened? Immediately it found 9 satellites and locked to 20ft, showing better connections to the satellites than i've EVER seen. I let off the pressure and watched as the signal strength to these satellites dropped intensely, went back to 2 or 3 satellites, and lost the lock. I again applied pressure, got a bunch of satellites back and got an immediate lock.
Before I go about taking my phone apart and trying to fix these contacts from the inside, I wanted to see if applying pressure on the back flash/GPS cover improved anything for anybody else, or if it's just my imagination. Please report back

I havn't had any problems with my gps, but if the problem you are having is what I was having I would be cracking the phone open to fix it...
I dont mind taking things apart

My GPS works, but there's some disconnect between Navigation and the GPS, I sware. If I run Navigation by itself, then I lose signal 2-3 minutes after getting a lock. If I run My Tracks in the background, then it stays locked.
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3 Inspires, no GPS issues at all, but it makes sense and doesn't look difficult at all. Go for it.

Well I tried it. I can't say if it was me applying pressure or me just getting lucky with signal and clear skies...but I locked to 7 very quickly and it found my location with in 20 feet here as well.
Interesting...
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cwhitney24 said:
Well I tried it. I can't say if it was me applying pressure or me just getting lucky with signal and clear skies...but I locked to 7 very quickly and it found my location with in 20 feet here as well.
Interesting...
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cool deal
not bad and it didnt seem that hard to do, keep checking on it to make sure for the next few days

cwhitney24 said:
Well I tried it. I can't say if it was me applying pressure or me just getting lucky with signal and clear skies...but I locked to 7 very quickly and it found my location with in 20 feet here as well.
Interesting...
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Um, I just tried applying pressure and got 8 meter lock on inside my house. My GPS usually NEVER locks on, even outside in clear skies. Wtf.
Edit: And now it's working all the time. I love you.

It didn't hurt to apply pressure to the area where you said the gps contacts are. So I opened up gps status in my home. Let it try and find some satellites on its own. Nothing was happening for a few seconds. Then I applied pressure to where the flash is on our phones one finger above the flash and the other below the flash. It then fixes satellites on my phone. And when I let go the fixed satellites dropped and my radius grew. I tried applying again and then it went back and started to drop. So I let go and it went up so I think the contacts are contacting and now I'm just covering up the gps but it seems to work. So now when I want to use gps ill remember this trick.
Thanks
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I pried out the flash cover and noticed that the antenna contacts on the cover were oxidized except for the part where the corner of the spring contacts landed. I scraped away the oxidation with a sharp object and bent the spring contacts up a little bit to make a firmer connection and I immediately got a boost in GPS reception. I dont' know what metal makes up the antenna in the flash cover but it sounds like oxidation builds back up again after a couple of months. I'll keep an eye on it and post an update.

This is perfect! I just did it, took about ten minutes. After reboot I just locked to under 60ft indoors during Hurricane Irene.
Thanks so much for this, now I can stop reading all these damn gps threads!
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Another update: just locked to 24ft outside in less than 15 seconds.
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GPS lock
Christ..I dont believe this.. I always have problems with Google Navigation getting satellite lock..and maps is usually like 1500-1600ft +or-... I did the pressure on the spots above and below the flash like you guys said... all of a sudden..boom! GPS lock inside my house..(never happens) and 9 satellites locked..(most I ever saw was 5 before when I was outside in a clear area.)..the GPS nav icon is almost on my house roof!

This issue puts it in perspective how bad the quality is on this device.
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Wow can't believe there are this many people confirming this. I'll be adjusting my gps contacts in a a day or two and ill report back. Definitely seems like its gonna help a few of us anyway
signatures annoy me

I have actually noticed the same issues as you were describing. I have pushed on the back and waited and then found the signal got better. Then released the pressure and it got either worse or just stayed the same. Different results every now and then. I have also taken it apart and tried the DHD fixed that your describing and it worked excellent for a little bit then nothing. I'm returning it now to have HTC fix it. Probably the easiest way. Sucks not having a phone but at least they will give me a phone that does everything its supposed to. They were really nice about it too.

eryk4381 said:
I have actually noticed the same issues as you were describing. I have pushed on the back and waited and then found the signal got better. Then released the pressure and it got either worse or just stayed the same. Different results every now and then. I have also taken it apart and tried the DHD fixed that your describing and it worked excellent for a little bit then nothing. I'm returning it now to have HTC fix it. Probably the easiest way. Sucks not having a phone but at least they will give me a phone that does everything its supposed to. They were really nice about it too.
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This is a great thread. I fortunately do not have the issue on my device to where I need to mess with it, but experience tells me living in a somewhat temperate / rainly climate the contacts may oxidize / signal degrades over time. Good to know how to address it...I had an iPhone 3G I took apart at the end of its life. I had noticed the GPS was really sucking toward the end. Sure enough, plain old brown rust was evident on the GPS antenna contacts...

****, I wish I had known about this before I exchanged my Inspire at my AT&T store. I couldn't get GPS lock at all. It was a hassle, and I had all but narrowed it down to hardware, so this really makes sense.
The thread about my particular issues: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1203133

Instant improvement to WIFI signal! by as much as 2-3 Bars!

OK, so I know i kinda just posted something along the following lines in another forum to try and help someone with a week wifi signal.
but after doing some research through the forums i noticed that it doesn't look like this issue has really been covered before. maybe because everyone has already noticed it,? and I'm the idiot for figuring it out later? or maybe some people dont really notice it, like i didn't at first.
But if you sometimes struggle from a weak wifi signal, you might be able to instantly increase you wifi strength by as much as 2-3 bars by doing 1 simple thing!...
what is this magical wifi booster you may ask?
its simple really, its as simple as watching the placement of your hand's while holding the device,
i know, i know it may be obvious to some of you but to some people like me who may not pay attention to something as simple as that, this information may help a noob or two...
you see the WIFI antenna on the G2X is located at the top of the phone. and by doing a simple experiment you can see the dramatic effect placing your hand near the top does, or even simply just placing your finger on the top which if your like me you probably sometimes do while playing video games, or while trying to hold the phone in one hand while using that secret app you have on your phone while in the bathroom at work... or you know whatever... and such,
but anyhow if you are connected to wifi you can see you WIFI signal drop as much as 2-3 bars just by simply placing your hand in the wrong position. or even from simply placing it on a desk or level surface. there really is an optimal position to hold the phone at the bottom. hope this helped at least someone..

korny647 said:
If anyone struggles from weak WiFi signal, you might be able to instantly increase your signal strength by as much as 2-3 bars by doing one simple thing!
What is this magical Wi-Fi booster you may ask?
It's simple really, just watch the placement of your hand's while holding the device.
You see, the Wi-Fi antenna on the G2X is located at the top of the phone.
(By doing a simple experiment you can see the dramatic effect placing your hand near the top does, placing your finger on the top, or even from simply placing it on a desk or any level surface. You can see your Wi-Fi signal drop as much as 2-3 bars.)
The best optimal position to hold the phone is at the bottom.
Hope this helped at least someone..
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Not to pick on you, but that was pretty painful to read.
This is good information for some, so i've created a cut and dry edition for all to read.
Hope this gets stickied!

Ya I was bored and just typed this up real fast. Guess ill preview it next time!
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If your right next to the router it might not have such a dramatic effect. It will just go right through. But if the signal is weekend. By distance, or especially through a wall. It makes a big difference.
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korny647 said:
If your right next to the router it might not have such a dramatic effect. It will just go right through. But if the signal is weekend. By distance, or especially through a wall. It makes a big difference.
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I am less than 10 feet away from my router and covering the top made it drop 2 bars.
Good find! Never noticed it before but it might be really useful when you are in those on the edge of connection moments!
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Yes, similar to cell reception. One can also turn the phone 90°, lay it flat, etc if the signal is weak and see if there is improvement.
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Tl;dr Don't cover the wi-fi antenna, which is at the top of the phone. You took wayyyyyy too long to say it.
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Klathmon said:
I am less than 10 feet away from my router and covering the top made it drop 2 bars.
Good find! Never noticed it before but it might be really useful when you are in those on the edge of connection moments!
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That's why I wanted to do a quick write up.
But I was bored and I tend to ramble when I'm bored.
So Thnx to who cleaned it up.
" I think mine was funnier tho" if you a actually read thru it... lol :sly:
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theking_13 said:
Tl;dr Don't cover the wi-fi antenna, which is at the top of the phone. You took wayyyyyy too long to say it.
Yes I agree.
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Yea I noticed I would drop a lot of bars if I was holding the phone sideways and watching a video.