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After removing bloatware with hard reset, why swap to a "cooked" ROM? Benefits?? :)

After removing bloatware with hard reset, why swap to a "cooked" ROM? Benefits??
First of all, I would like to say Hi to everyone here at XDA, this is a really cool sight. I just purchased my first windows mobile phone, ATT Tilt, and right away decided to do the hard reset and then soft reset to get rid of that horrible AT&T Bloatware.
From here there, I am uncertain as to if I want to swap to a different rom.
Honestly, I am a bit of a newb, and other than making the UI different, are there really any benefits to swapping to a "cooked" ROM? Do i stand the chance of getting performance gains? Are there any custom ROMS out there that are more stable than the ATT ROM? Are they any "must have" features that are only available on custom ROMS?
Sorry if i am asking dumb question, but i really want to get the most out of this phone, and am basically just curious. I see that a lot of people really enjoy modding their mobile devices and I think it is something that I may enjoy too.
Thanks,
Darth

Removing 3 programs or stopping the initial install is not removing bloatware!
Why flash to a cooked Rom...........
The cooking process allows for further stripping of the Rom
Cooked Roms are tweaked for performance & stability
Cooked Roms are the way to go...these factory Roms don't even come close.
What would you rather have..a stock Mustang or a Shelby?
If you picked a Shelby, you're hooked before your 1st flash!

Thats what i had hoped to hear....I guess its time to do some more research.....and reading here on XDA.
Thanks!

Darth Tater said:
Thats what i had hoped to hear....I guess its time to do some more research.....and reading here on XDA.
Thanks!
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My reason.... I hate all those useless icons on my screen, more memory is more room to load the .cab's I really like, and much simpler to find things when you go into the directories.
I assume if you pick the ROM with everthing loaded, it may even run faster from the ROM, but don't know ROM memory speed vs. Main memory speed is that different (or for that matter SD memory speed).
I loaded Alex's v5.1 lite, very clean, works great, easy to load, very happy with it. I think the other ROM's are probably good also, this one fit me best. Alex has done a great job with documentation, which made it easier for me to decide.
btw - you didnt ask, but my favorite apps to add are; Slingplayer, Coreplayer/TCPMP, and Google Maps.

Darth Tater said:
Thats what i had hoped to hear....I guess its time to do some more research.....and reading here on XDA.
Thanks!
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As a FLASHing icebreaker....try this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=348522

The performance gain you'll notice right away is the screen rotation speed. ATT's original ROM takes about 3 seconds to rotate even with soft reset before the 3second countdown. Alex's multimedia rom rotates instantly. I havent tried the V5 yet but I got his V4 installed. I have installed over 120mb of software on the memory, not on SD card. The rotation speed still much faster than the original ROM with nothing installed.

Help with flashing - Will pay for help

I have a myTouch 3G running Cyanogen's 4.0.2 rom and am looking to try out some Hero roms. I am very unfamiliar with linux and uncomfortable with the process. To get Cyanogen's 4.0.2 rom on my phone I used the one click root method. Also I do no know how and need help partitioning my sd card for the hero rom. Another important thing I think maybe is that I am still on the original radio and spl as I haven't flashed either of those. So anyone looking to help me like I said I will be willing to pay. I know there are people who don't show you how to do it, but will flash for you and that's not what I'm looking for. I need someone to show me the process so that I can learn and do it myself.

I would avoid flashing the radio if I were you. Especially if you have the myTouch3G. Also you don't really need to flash the SPL unless you tried to load a particular ROM and it failed. There shouldn't be a need to pay, and if anything if you take the time to search around these forums you should be able to find everything you need.

radikaled said:
I would avoid flashing the radio if I were you. Especially if you have the myTouch3G. Also you don't really need to flash the SPL unless you tried to load a particular ROM and it failed. There shouldn't be a need to pay, and if anything if you take the time to search around these forums you should be able to find everything you need.
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I agree, since we praise open source, I doubt anyone will want money for helping..
We all help each others
My recommendation to the partitions is to check the threat about recovery-RAv1.2.1.img.. this makes it automatically!!! But, most of the hero ROM's doesn't need partitions. I recommend you search a nice 32B ROM and see what people say, that's what I do !!!
Since you already install one ROM, I doubt that you'll have any prob with other good ROM
Anyway, help is always given.. there's even a wiki on the top of this forum
That help me out understanding a lot of things and there's almost links for everything!!!

I understand the open source and helping for free, it was more of an incentive. What are the reasons for these roms wanting or "needing" partitions? I will look at the few things you mentioned.

vinbeaver said:
I understand the open source and helping for free, it was more of an incentive. What are the reasons for these roms wanting or "needing" partitions? I will look at the few things you mentioned.
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I'm not an expert.. I don't know if I'm telling a big joke, but here it goes:
I think that is for pre-caching behaviors of the ROM. In laptop/desktop linux distribuctions, needs as well to have this partitions. The swap, swaps memory... ext3 is where it will be placed the root.. extra partion can be added fat32 is a common partition read by windows and linux (ext3,2,1, windows don't read the content of it).. The best thing is really to re-search.. the most you want to know the most you learn

vinbeaver said:
I understand the open source and helping for free, it was more of an incentive. What are the reasons for these roms wanting or "needing" partitions? I will look at the few things you mentioned.
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Partitioning is mainly done because of the small amount of storage that is provided on the device. The idea is to have your applications and cache installed (running) on a memory card (microsd). Depending on the quality of the memory card you purchased you may experience an increase in performance as well.
Generally speaking it's not really required and probably just overcomplicates things for you from the getgo.

Wow... so I tried a Hero rom without any partitions and I must say, wow it is unbelievably slow. I'd like to find one where I don't have to use an sd card, or I'm wondering if it's possible to just install the htc widgets without the rest of it. It appears to me the only worth anything on there to me is the widgets, the black taskbar, and maybe the browser. Haven't played enough with it cause it's extremely slow which like i said may be because i didn't use a partitioned sd card.

vinbeaver said:
Wow... so I tried a Hero rom without any partitions and I must say, wow it is unbelievably slow. I'd like to find one where I don't have to use an sd card, or I'm wondering if it's possible to just install the htc widgets without the rest of it. It appears to me the only worth anything on there to me is the widgets, the black taskbar, and maybe the browser. Haven't played enough with it cause it's extremely slow which like i said may be because i didn't use a partitioned sd card.
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There's some cool ROM's.. unfortantly for the 32B I don't know what should I recommend... I have a 32A!!
For having a 7 desktops home software, there's openhome.. for the clock widget with weather, you'll have like weather widgets donation version and beautiful widgets..
Here in Xda, we don't publish such things.. as link for paid applications, cracked, as some of the people are developers them selfs of that softwares..
There's other places..
GOOGLE KNOWS EVERYTHING

[Q] [Apps2SD][Apps to SD][GB 2.3.4][EP1F] How to force phone apps to SD card?

I just picked up a Droid Charge a few weeks ago. I am digging the phone, but i am a long-time user switching from a Droid X which had 16gb internal storage. It is a brutal culture shock to say the least. I am always checking out new games and apps and have a significant collection. In other words, i need the storage! Especially since there are many apps and games that do not support move-to-sd card feature. Running out of storage was something i never had to even think about until now. It's really the only major gripe i have with the phone, but it's a major gripe considering the Charge only has a measely 1GB of internal storage. Ug.
Out of habit, i move all the apps to my SD card when i can. "When I can..." is the problem. I never had to use an "apps2sd" app before, but i've seen some versions for Froyo in passing. Now that i actually have a severe need to move some apps to the SD card (e.g. Let's Golf 2 - a fairly large game), i was having trouble spotting an apps2SD app that might work on Gingerbread.
[Q] Does anyone have a version (or know of a version) of an Apps2SD app that works for Gingerbread 2.3.4 (EP1F)? I am desperate to move some of these stubborn apps. It's gotten frustrating enough to tempt me into thinking about going back to my X. It would be wonderful if someone could help point me in the right direction!
For what it's worth i am on the leaked TW stock rom with 2.3.4 (+CWM+Voodoo) found in v2 of "The Charge Kit."
Thanks!

I agree!!! I recently got a Droid Charge myself and have grown more and more frustrated with having to constantly move every single app, no matter the size, to the SD card. It really is a pain. Sooo, if anyone has any suggestions, I'd really appreciate it too!
Thanx for posting about this, TheShade!
Sent from my SCH-I510 using XDA App

You can "force" apps to SD with Titanium Backup. However, the ones that don't support APP2SD will not run until you move them back to internal memory.
Also, I think you would be wise to request this to be moved to General. Lot more traffic there.
Sent from my Droid Charge running GummyFroyo 1.9.1

kvswim said:
You can "force" apps to SD with Titanium Backup. However, the ones that don't support APP2SD will not run until you move them back to internal memory.
Also, I think you would be wise to request this to be moved to General. Lot more traffic there.
Sent from my Droid Charge running GummyFroyo 1.9.1
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Thanks kvswim! Appreciate the suggestion.

Just wanted to say thanks again kvswim, for the suggestions. I have had Titanium for a while now. Shamefully, i had not fully explored some of the batch options. Tho I am still hoping to find a gingerbread version of an apps2sd app which allows u to force the stubborn apps to the sd card, Titanium has some nice options that I hadn't noticed before.
I was able to use Titanium to force-move Lets Golf 2 and some other larger games to the sd card. I am also able to run all of these games and apps with no problems. Sweet! This freed up quite a bit of storage for now. I have an even greater respect and appreciation for Titanium now.
Thanks, again!

[Q] Noob lookinor someadvice/answers.......

Im fairly new to the phone mod game and im the only one of my friends who gives a damn. Needless to say that means ive no one to talk to about this stuff. I recently rooted my Inspire (aahk) works great. Now my phone is insane with speeds like ive never seen. However i was flashing some roms around trying to find the one just right for me, and thought id try CM7 did a full wipe. Being the impulsive person i am i only backed up on my SD and when it told me to do a partition i didnt consider the consequences..... So now im stuck with CM7 (not for me) and i guess ive got to start all over. In trying to download new ROMS it seems that only the ones n the premium section will really change the whole phone. Is there a way i can get back to the ROM it had me on just after rooting? Or am i starting all over? would it be wise to unroot and start over? i really dont like the ADW base of CM7. I had been running HoneySense which was awesome but could barely use my data other than the Market..... Yes i know im long winded but like i stated. Ive got no friends that give a damn about their phones. ANY hints tips advice would be appreciated. And to all of you developers, keep up the good work, i envy your skills.... 2 years ago i could barely check an email, and have been learning as much as possible as quick as possible. Thanks for reading my nonsensical ramblings

Also what is the difference with the nandroid and clockworkmod? can i use apps for both or are they root specific... You can laugh if you like

Your nandroid/cwm backups will backup your entire rom. Forget restoring those if you want to go to a different rom. You need to be rooted if you want to perform these actions, but you already are rooted. If you want to backup your apps then use Titanium backup or My backup root to backup just your apps. Don't backup system stuff. You can flash any of the roms in the development section. You do not need to root again. Always wipe before flashing a new rom. In recovery you select wipe and choose to wipe cache, dalvik cache, data/factory reset, and you can also format system if you want. Don't wipe anything else. Backup your data that you want to save before wiping.

Pretty much what Wolf is saying..Also @Diesel321, So what is it that over all your looking to do with your phone.?
Some of the biggest ?s that is asked a lot when it comes to roms is stability,battery life.And whats the "best" and there is really no "best" one. But for I would recommend NinjaRom. I have been running that for @ least 5months and only had minor issue which was fixed from the support team. Also tried android rev,CoreDroid all good stuff.
But when you do flash its a good idea to do a back up. Which I go through ClockWorkMod (CWM) and select back up and I aslo save each back to my sd card and save it the pc to a folder that I created for my Roms/Tweaks/Add-Ons/etc..
but if you need any other ?s just ask or Pm Me glad to help out.

Thanks to both of you guys... Overall i want to speed up my system (which the "set cpu" app and all overclocking apps confuse me) I have tried all different kinds of settings and the only way i can get a decent result is through wifi. Also batterylife and the more i learn about phones the more i like so the deeper i dive the more intriuged i become... I always want more faster and better.As far as ROMS anything based or similar to CM7 i do not like, before i eber rooted i tried the ADW launcher and am not a fan of the set up. I love the sense roms, but the only ones i can find through cwm are HoneySense which only lets me access my data through the market (no browser, no email, no google, no FB) i installed Leedroid last night and its ok but the specs of Honey Wonder look awesome. I cant find it on cwm and i cant seem to gert it from my computer to my phone. Im about to try and put my SD into the cpu and do it that way. When i backup my Apps should i backup my data for them as well? ANd then can i restore them over any rom? or do i go back and restore them from the market, can i save my home screens to restore the way i like them or do i have to do it manually any time? Im sorry if im overloading with questons but as i stated previously none of my friends give a damn about any of this stuff, except one and he kniows about a quarter of what i know. Hes wanting to root his LG OPtimus C but i told him to wait till i learn more about it, also i dont know if there is a root for it. Any other tips and advice are always welcomed appreciated and thanked... Again thanks guys.. One more. Why cant i seem to download anything from my XDA Premium App? that would make my life much easier

wow that was a mouthful, you should be able to download from xda but if your having trouble try-menu-browser also your not limited to only inspire roms the DHD is almost the same phone and is global and non-branded (INSPIRE 4G-AT&T) so check out some of these.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=765
once you try some sence 3.5 youll never go back

Diesel321 said:
Thanks to both of you guys... Overall i want to speed up my system (which the "set cpu" app and all overclocking apps confuse me) I have tried all different kinds of settings and the only way i can get a decent result is through wifi. Also batterylife and the more i learn about phones the more i like so the deeper i dive the more intriuged i become... I always want more faster and better.As far as ROMS anything based or similar to CM7 i do not like, before i eber rooted i tried the ADW launcher and am not a fan of the set up. I love the sense roms, but the only ones i can find through cwm are HoneySense which only lets me access my data through the market (no browser, no email, no google, no FB) i installed Leedroid last night and its ok but the specs of Honey Wonder look awesome. I cant find it on cwm and i cant seem to gert it from my computer to my phone. Im about to try and put my SD into the cpu and do it that way. When i backup my Apps should i backup my data for them as well? ANd then can i restore them over any rom? or do i go back and restore them from the market, can i save my home screens to restore the way i like them or do i have to do it manually any time? Im sorry if im overloading with questons but as i stated previously none of my friends give a damn about any of this stuff, except one and he kniows about a quarter of what i know. Hes wanting to root his LG OPtimus C but i told him to wait till i learn more about it, also i dont know if there is a root for it. Any other tips and advice are always welcomed appreciated and thanked... Again thanks guys.. One more. Why cant i seem to download anything from my XDA Premium App? that would make my life much easier
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Ok.... Where to start... You can back up your apps with data. I restore those because for like any programs such as browsers or any games I want to restore the settings and bookmarks, passwords, etc. Before I restore in a new rom I go through the checked programs that are supposed to be restored, Apps with data in Titanium Backup Pro, and make sure I am only restoring "my" apps. I have often found that TB likes to also backup HTC Sense, etc. I do not want to restore any system apps since this would more than likely cause a problem with the new rom.
As far as overclocking is concerned, a lot of the newer versions of roms do not use SetCPU anymore. They use the Virtuous overclocking daemon script. This works much faster than SetCPU. Using SetCPU with these roms will disable the daemon. the information on the kernel and the overclocking daemon is usually listed in the first post of the rom thread. You can install Sybergunne's Daemon Controller app if it is not already installed to easily change the settings. Overclock carefully. Every phone is different and not all can go as high as others. Some may run stable at 1.6 GHz and others are only stable at 1.1 GHz.
If you are looking for faster data speeds, then that is already cooked into the roms by the developers, although there may always be some tweaking that can be performed. Speed for data is very subjective, because it really depends on your particular area. Radio's and RIL's make a difference also, but what works for me in my area may not work well for you. It is really a trial and error procedure to find out what works for you.
You are looking for sense roms, so Sense 3.0 and 3.5 are the latest for our phones. Go through the Inspire and Desire HD development threads and read the rom descriptions to see what you like. Almost every DHD rom is made to also work with the Inspire. Links to both sections are posted below. Some rom ideas for you to look at are, Android Revolution HD, Rumrunner, Bindroid, RCMix roms, HoneyWonder roms, Cleardroid, Virtuous Unity, etc., etc. You need to decide which ones you want to try. Ok, that is my mouthful.
Inspire 4G:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1018
Desire HD:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=765
Inspire Radio Thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1106324

I just installed HoneyWonder.... Its coldblooded Yea i get a little long winded from time to time

So when it comes to kernels i need to kflash them to their respected ROMs right

Diesel321 said:
So when it comes to kernels i need to kflash them to their respected ROMs right
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The rom comes with kernel but aosp kernels go with aosp (android open source project)=cm7 and sence kernels usually with all sence roms

People sometimes flash alternate kernels than what comes with the rom to experiment and see what the performance behavior is like. ALWAYS make a CWM/Nandroid backup of your rom before you flash any mods or kernels. Usually it does not happen, but sometimes a flashed mod or kernel can mess up your phone so it is good to have a backup in case of problems.

So I've got a 16gig SD and I've had to strip it down because it had 14 gigs of music on it. So after I rooted I took a bunch off. Would it be wise to keep 2 SXS? One I can jam too and another for downloading Rome and flashing? Also I CAN flash CM7 kernels to my Sense roms. Has anyone tried that Beatmod BlissSense. It seems cool but it doesn't seem to want to download. You guys are awesome and have helped me it tremendously. I may not be able to help with your computer problems or anything but if you need any advice on home repair or anything like that Im your guy.
Sent from my HTC Desire HD A9191 using xda premium

Diesel321 said:
So I've got a 16gig SD and I've had to strip it down because it had 14 gigs of music on it. So after I rooted I took a bunch off. Would it be wise to keep 2 SXS? One I can jam too and another for downloading Rome and flashing? Also I CAN flash CM7 kernels to my Sense roms. Has anyone tried that Beatmod BlissSense. It seems cool but it doesn't seem to want to download. You guys are awesome and have helped me it tremendously. I may not be able to help with your computer problems or anything but if you need any advice on home repair or anything like that Im your guy.
Sent from my HTC Desire HD A9191 using xda premium
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Beatmod BlissSense was awesome. Had some minor bugs for me, GPS signal was a littly nutty and my calls kept dropping. (I reflashed the rom when I found this was happening and the issue seemed to disappear). All in all, it was a great rom but since I'm new to the root thing, the flashing bug caught me and off I went into the xda forums..I'm currently running Android Revolution and of all the roms I've flashed, this is by far my favorite.

What exactly is "freezing" an app mean? I've got an idea I just want to make sure I'm right? Is it wise to delete bloatware apps? Would they come back if I needed to unroot?

Freezing an app is a little like deleting it, but safer. If you delete it, you may find out you have big problems because the system app will not reinstall correctly and you end up reinstalling the rom. With freezing you can take it out but restore it exactly the way it was in the system if things go wrong. If you are backing up your rom like you should in case of problems, then that backup usually takes over a gigabyte of space on your sd card, so it sounds like you definitely need to have another card with more space. You have to be careful what kernel you want to try. If it was written for CM7 it may not work with Sense based roms. Depends how it was coded. You have to research information on the kernel to see if it lists anything specific about proprietary installation. If not, then go ahead and try it. BACKUP YOUR ROM FIRST BEFORE FLASHING.

Nice about to flash HoneyWonder now to see whats up..
I see that wolf has covered you on some damn good topics..
I have flashed lots of roms this honey wonder will be like my 9th lol but it all depends on you and the flashing it will take time to see what you like. As to speeding up your phone like set cpu @ the time I found useful cause you were able to set profiles for phone like when its sleep mode set it for like low power. And when your using it have a higher mhz etc.. But I did use juice defender as an app which to me it worked very good.
But to me I like Roms that do not take up memory lol

So im downloading some ROMs to my newly dedicated SD Just curius if i eed anything other than the roms on there? I mean CWM and all of that should be not only on my phones memory but also in most roms correct? You guys have been a huge help! Im loving this honeywonder but want to play around soe more. Ia having a problem with it though sometimes when i try to reboot or anything that should take me to boot it simply will not do it. Ive installed the Inspirefix.zip but am still havingm some issues. And the phone is saying 3G ATT is that just what its saying and im still 4G or has the ROM taken me back to 3??? Just wondering Because its still hella fast im about to trey a readio and ril flash to try and get some more speed. Hopr i dont screw anyhting up

Diesel321 said:
So im downloading some ROMs to my newly dedicated SD Just curius if i eed anything other than the roms on there? I mean CWM and all of that should be not only on my phones memory but also in most roms correct? You guys have been a huge help! Im loving this honeywonder but want to play around soe more. Ia having a problem with it though sometimes when i try to reboot or anything that should take me to boot it simply will not do it. Ive installed the Inspirefix.zip but am still havingm some issues. And the phone is saying 3G ATT is that just what its saying and im still 4G or has the ROM taken me back to 3??? Just wondering Because its still hella fast im about to trey a readio and ril flash to try and get some more speed. Hopr i dont screw anyhting up
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I flashed honey with out the inspire fix if you did I would plug your phone back in go to you sd card and delete it out and reflash.
If you have not made a back up in cwm then do so and it will located in your sd card in the folder clock work and then a sub folder called back ups. I myself save that back on my pc just to have.
The 3g icon I had that and its ok.
My Pip Boy 3000

[Q] Why di you root?

Can you tell me the benefit or the main reason(s) why you rooted your Inspire?

My main reasons are the ability to change whatever I want. And better battery life.
Sent from my Inspire 4G using Tapatalk

Are you serious?
Not to sound mean, but have you ever searched Google or this forum before you thought of asking?
There is tons of information on here... just sayin
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Dinman said:
Are you serious?
Not to sound mean, but have you ever searched Google or this forum before you thought of asking?
There is tons of information on here... just sayin
sent from my secret agent phone in my shoe
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Yes I searched. There are no search words that will return results showing specific reasons why a member prefers a custom rom over the stock rom. In older devices a custom ROM would allow you to tether for free, remove bloatware to make room for 3rd party applications, remove buggy 2nd party software, remove unnecessary apps to allow the system to run faster, allow the customization of the UI when it was otherwise un-modifiable or fix glitches that made it through testing on the stock ROM but that doesn't seem to be needed on the Inspire. This is the first device I haven't hacked because so far it seems to be unnecessary. I could read custom ROM threads all day but finding a post where a user cited an issue relieved by using a custom ROM or a major benefit (that's not a trivial figment of their imagination) would be one heck of a needle in a haystack search. So it would be great to get this specific info into a thread.

Custom Roms.

jamespaulritter said:
Yes I searched. There are no search words that will return results showing specific reasons why a member prefers a custom rom over the stock rom. In older devices a custom ROM would allow you to tether for free, remove bloatware to make room for 3rd party applications, remove buggy 2nd party software, remove unnecessary apps to allow the system to run faster, allow the customization of the UI when it was otherwise un-modifiable or fix glitches that made it through testing on the stock ROM but that doesn't seem to be needed on the Inspire. This is the first device I haven't hacked because so far it seems to be unnecessary. I could read custom ROM threads all day but finding a post where a user cited an issue relieved by using a custom ROM or a major benefit (that's not a trivial figment of their imagination) would be one heck of a needle in a haystack search. So it would be great to get this specific info into a thread.
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I prefer stock Android to sense and hate bloatware. I won't buy a phone now until cm7 is available.
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jamespaulritter said:
Yes I searched. There are no search words that will return results showing specific reasons why a member prefers a custom rom over the stock rom. In older devices a custom ROM would allow you to tether for free, remove bloatware to make room for 3rd party applications, remove buggy 2nd party software, remove unnecessary apps to allow the system to run faster, allow the customization of the UI when it was otherwise un-modifiable or fix glitches that made it through testing on the stock ROM but that doesn't seem to be needed on the Inspire. This is the first device I haven't hacked because so far it seems to be unnecessary. I could read custom ROM threads all day but finding a post where a user cited an issue relieved by using a custom ROM or a major benefit (that's not a trivial figment of their imagination) would be one heck of a needle in a haystack search. So it would be great to get this specific info into a thread.
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wait, what? All the things you just said that aren't needed in the stock rom without rooting are actually all reasons why people root the inspire. If you have found another way to remove bloatware without rooting please pass on that information so that those who simply rooted to remove the bloatware can do so without having to go through the entire rooting process. Without rooting you there are a lot of helpful apps you can't run, you can't remove bloatware, you really can't customize anything significant in the UI..I mean really the only reason why I rooted was to remove the pesky bloatware (sorry I just hate looking at blockbuster apps and that stupid teeter game)...the added bonuses of full customization in AOSP roms and the ability to have the performance tweaks in every other rom/kernel just made the decision easier. If you like the stock rom and see nothing wrong..keep on moving, no reason to fix something that isn't broke...I just like having full control over my device..it's for some, it's not for everyone..just my .02 cents

MMM-BACONSTRIPS said:
wait, what? All the things you just said that aren't needed in the stock rom without rooting are actually all reasons why people root the inspire. If you have found another way to remove bloatware without rooting please pass on that information so that those who simply rooted to remove the bloatware can do so without having to go through the entire rooting process. Without rooting you there are a lot of helpful apps you can't run, you can't remove bloatware, you really can't customize anything significant in the UI..I mean really the only reason why I rooted was to remove the pesky bloatware (sorry I just hate looking at blockbuster apps and that stupid teeter game)...the added bonuses of full customization in AOSP roms and the ability to have the performance tweaks in every other rom/kernel just made the decision easier. If you like the stock rom and see nothing wrong..keep on moving, no reason to fix something that isn't broke...I just like having full control over my device..it's for some, it's not for everyone..just my .02 cents
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+1, pretty much summed up my response.

MMM-BACONSTRIPS said:
wait, what? All the things you just said that aren't needed in the stock rom without rooting are actually all reasons why people root the inspire. If you have found another way to remove bloatware without rooting please pass on that information so that those who simply rooted to remove the bloatware can do so without having to go through the entire rooting process. Without rooting you there are a lot of helpful apps you can't run, you can't remove bloatware, you really can't customize anything significant in the UI..I mean really the only reason why I rooted was to remove the pesky bloatware (sorry I just hate looking at blockbuster apps and that stupid teeter game)...the added bonuses of full customization in AOSP roms and the ability to have the performance tweaks in every other rom/kernel just made the decision easier. If you like the stock rom and see nothing wrong..keep on moving, no reason to fix something that isn't broke...I just like having full control over my device..it's for some, it's not for everyone..just my .02 cents
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Thanks, I agree. I hate seeing the blockbuster app. I actually went looking for an Obfuscate app to hide it. We use to have to remove the bloatware to make room for 3rd party apps because there was limited ROM. Meaning back in the day we got '32 megs, 64 megs' whatever for apps we wanted so we had to remove bloatware. Its not the issue it once was because now we get 1Gb, 2GB...... The reason I'm asking is because I was thinking of rooting so I could tether reverse wifi. So i'm looking for reasons to take the plunge.

rooting my inspire has made it like a completely different phone. actually, each custom rom is almost a new device itself.
but as far as perks, i like the better battery life, full customization, speed increases (data, smoothness, overclocking, etc.), constant updates, and just the joy of trying out different roms. the definite BEST perk of them all is the simple fact that you can find support for each rom from their respectful devs (not all, but the majority of the popular roms out there). HTC and the various service providers always have terrible support.

jamespaulritter said:
Thanks, I agree. I hate seeing the blockbuster app. I actually went looking for an Obfuscate app to hide it. We use to have to remove the bloatware to make room for 3rd party apps because there was limited ROM. Meaning back in the day we got '32 megs, 64 megs' whatever for apps we wanted so we had to remove bloatware. Its not the issue it once was because now we get 1Gb, 2GB...... The reason I'm asking is because I was thinking of rooting so I could tether reverse wifi. So i'm looking for reasons to take the plunge.
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Yeah man, the droid milestone (the first smartphone from HTC that I remember having) was awesome in regards to bloatware. I was able to remove pretty much anything I wanted, not the case now unfortunately . Pretty much the benefits of rooting are that you get full control of your device, in pretty much every aspect. As for tethering, I'm not 100% that its supported in every ROM but I'm pretty sure there are some out there, if that's what your immediate reason for rooting is I would say start asking in the Q&A in each ROM or hopefully someone else can chime in to help you out. Like I said I rooted to get rid of the dumb bloatware, getting the performance tweaks, battery life, and customization (for most roms but more so in the AOSP ROMs) were just added bonuses

Take control of your device. Imagine being locked out of the C: drive on your computer.
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jamespaulritter said:
Thanks, I agree. I hate seeing the blockbuster app. I actually went looking for an Obfuscate app to hide it. We use to have to remove the bloatware to make room for 3rd party apps because there was limited ROM. Meaning back in the day we got '32 megs, 64 megs' whatever for apps we wanted so we had to remove bloatware. Its not the issue it once was because now we get 1Gb, 2GB...... The reason I'm asking is because I was thinking of rooting so I could tether reverse wifi. So i'm looking for reasons to take the plunge.
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Oh just root it already! When you use the Ace hack kit, you can't even tell it's rooted. If you like it just the way it is you can keep it that way. If you don't, try some different ROMs. You can always flash the stock ROM back (or restore it if you backed it up).

If you don't have a huge desire to root, it may not be the thing for you. I'd still recommend rooting though, you wouldn't regret it.

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If you don't have a huge desire to root, it may not be the thing for you. I'd still recommend rooting though, you wouldn't regret it.
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You'll be thinking about rooting it until you do.
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