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I bought the TB not realizing I am not in a 4G area. Bummed.

I live in Portland, Oregon. I am surprised I am not in a 4G area. I was told that the network is ready to go, they just need to flip the switch.

Pinesal said:
I live in Portland, Oregon. I am surprised I am not in a 4G area. I was told that the network is ready to go, they just need to flip the switch.
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CS and Store personal will tell you anything to sell you a phone, I wouldn't hold my breath. It will come in time though. Hopefully the hype of "4g" wasn't the only reason you bought the phone. If it was, you should return now.

i do live in a 4G area but spend most of the week out-of-town on work, sadly in non-4G areas. i'm struggling to decide if i really want the tbolt given that i will only have true LTE access on the weekends. sometimes i feel it would be better to wait until where i am working has 4G as well or i get assigned to 4G area projects. hmm....

You still get to take advantage of the simultaneous data + voice if that sort of thing interests you, I think..

Look at the bright side, you'll be grandfather in if they decide to change to tiered data, when it does finally come to your city.

HolyGrail said:
Look at the bright side, you'll be grandfather in if they decide to change to tiered data, when it does finally come to your city.
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I thought that too, but the "grandfathering" is only good for your contract term. Please read it when you have a chance. Two VZW managers confirmed this. Will they do it (cut off unlimited-who knows?), but they can if they want to.

I live in Seattle and travel a LOT... most of my locations for routine travel are on the 4G map... Guess I'll get to compare Seattle speeds to Cincinnati next week.

rushless said:
I thought that too, but the "grandfathering" is only good for your contract term. Please read it when you have a chance. Two VZW managers confirmed this. Will they do it (cut off unlimited-who knows?), but they can if they want to.
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Bunch of bull dude. Do you think or do you know? Don't believe everything you read. I been grandfathered on my unlimited talk $45 dollar plan for 8 years. My contract runs out, but nothing changes. When I grab a new phone the reb just starts up a new contract with my grandfathered one.
Also when you're contract runs out, and you don't do anything or upgrade you're phone your plan will continue the same way also. Here old screen shot of my plan I still have.
I have another friend that has a 10 unlimited data plan, and he's had it for 6 years.
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HolyGrail said:
Bunch of bull dude. Do you think or do you know? Don't believe everything you read. I been grandfathered on my unlimited talk $45 dollar plan for 8 years. My contract runs out, but nothing changes. When I grab a new phone the reb just starts up a new contract with my grandfathered one.
Also when you're contract runs out, and you don't do anything or upgrade you're phone your plan will continue the same way also. Here old screen shot of my plan I still have.
I have another friend that has a 10 unlimited data plan, and he's had it for 6 years.
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Thats not unlimited! That is only 99,999 minutes!
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lol

The only time you lose a grandfathered plan is when you switch to something that is not the same ability in VZW system. IE: going to "Iphone data" stay on an android and you will have same plan as long as you don't change it.

Tbolt is more than just 4g
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My wife said that last night the phone indicated that it was connected to 4G for about an hour last night.
Weird huh? I guess they are testing it out? Maybe getting ready to turn it on?

I bought mine knowing I wasn't in a 4G area but this phone is awesome. I haven't even got it Activated yet and I'm loving it!

Weselers said:
The only time you lose a grandfathered plan is when you switch to something that is not the same ability in VZW system. IE: going to "Iphone data" stay on an android and you will have same plan as long as you don't change it.
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I asked about the grandfathered in today.. yes it Is true.. but once ur contract runs out .. and u get a different phone .. its done.... only way to keep it is to have the tb on the account .. sorry for the bad news but its true
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As a former Alltel/Verizon manager, I'd like to throw my two cents in. Per the letter of the contract, Verizon does have the ability to remove your unlimited data after the contract ends. With that being said, in my 6 years in the industry I have never seen it happen. We had customers on $20/mo unlimited minute plans who had originally signed on with GTE. As long as you don't initiate the change, you're fine.
The only exception (which I think was mentioned earlier), is moving to a different class of device. For example, a data plan for a feature phone won't map over to a new smartphon, etc...
Hope this helps!
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Pinesal said:
I live in Portland, Oregon. I am surprised I am not in a 4G area. I was told that the network is ready to go, they just need to flip the switch.
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where did you buy it from? I told all my customers in portland that 4g is only near the airport and is slowly expanding/being turned on. The vzw account/data manager I spoke with said you can get it 3 miles outside PDX and it is being turned on in other areas.

4g isnt even a buying point for me, I am not in an area and most likely wont get it for another 1-2 years, I will have had at least 4 new phones by then. I bought this bad boy for the potential in it. Its all great hardware and by far the best support from xda over any other company. If the G2 is putting down 100 mflops I cant wait to see what this can do once its all tuned up.

tazzpatriot said:
I asked about the grandfathered in today.. yes it Is true.. but once ur contract runs out .. and u get a different phone .. its done.... only way to keep it is to have the tb on the account .. sorry for the bad news but its true
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Untrue. I have been on 5 different devices in my 8 years. All were smart-phones. Never had to change my plan. Now that being said, what you wrote would probably true if I would have upgraded to something other then a smart-phone device.

HolyGrail said:
Untrue. I have been on 5 different devices in my 8 years. Never had to change my plan.
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Things change bro.. it never changed for me either. But they will.. wait til ur contract runs out. And they do away with unlimited. U will have to change .. only way u won't is if u keep the tb in ur line.. u will see lol
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Haha 5g..my butt

Okay, my dads friend just got off the phone with att and they said that 5g will be out in may and they will be servicing all of uor eddge towers into 4 and 5g. i will believe it when I see my connection speeds but really lie to every freakin customer. I take it 5g is LTE then? Makes me wonder if they actually werent lieing..oh wait we dont even have 4g yet..duhh
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LTE is 4G, son.

There is no "5G" as of now. I think whoever you guys spoke to was beyond dumb.

Mustang302LX said:
There is no "5G" as of now. I think whoever you guys spoke to was beyond dumb.
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This thread reminds me of Ozzy Osbourne saying "What's a Bieber?" lmao!

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lmao, brilliant!!!!

What remains to be seen is if at&t will give early upgrades for those of us on their current "4G" phones in favor of a LTE phone.

kev012in said:
What remains to be seen is if at&t will give early upgrades for those of us on their current "4G" phones in favor of a LTE phone.
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I doubt it and if they do it'll probably be a farce of a discount.

Another customer disserviced based on the poor knowledge base of a care agent.
Exception over the rule hopefully
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i dont understand why any human in existence takes one word a customer rep says as remotely correct. i dont even call att to ask them a single thing, and i never believe a word a rep says because they are usually just a high school kid making 6 bucks an hour.
why would anyone be surprised that wrong info was given? its like being shocked that water is wet.

Ha ha!! If worked for AT&T, I would be saying the same thing, just for kicks. Lol.
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RogerPodacter said:
i dont understand why any human in existence takes one word a customer rep says as remotely correct. i dont even call att to ask them a single thing, and i never believe a word a rep says because they are usually just a high school kid making 6 bucks an hour.
why would anyone be surprised that wrong info was given? its like being shocked that water is wet.
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I know several people who are sales reps at ATT making 60k+ a year. Nice try though.
It sounds to me that the friend lied.
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Sportsguy15 said:
I know several people who are sales reps at ATT making 60k+ a year. Nice try though.
It sounds to me that the friend lied.
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Yep I work for at&t as a sales rep in a very slow store and make an average of $23/hour.

mayoj7 said:
Yep I work for at&t as a sales rep in a very slow store and make an average of $23/hour.
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Dontcha feel like feces followin folks around like a lost dog while trying to convince them they need X against their will? I walk out on sales folk for that.

kev012in said:
What remains to be seen is if at&t will give early upgrades for those of us on their current "4G" phones in favor of a LTE phone.
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I was told by the rep when I got my Inspre that it will run LTE speeds when it is turned on. I dont know all the inner workings of the network or phone, so I could have been lied to.

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I was told by the rep when I got my Inspre that it will run LTE speeds when it is turned on. I dont know all the inner workings of the network or phone, so I could have been lied to.
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Thats pretty much wrong.
However as HSPA+ does get rolled out in your area you will see dramatic increases in speeds. Currently i get about 3.8m/1.3m which isnt bad by any means, however with full rollout you should speeds around 12m/5m. Not LTE but alot faster current "3G"
Drew

drewdatrip said:
Thats pretty much wrong.
However as HSPA+ does get rolled out in your area you will see dramatic increases in speeds. Currently i get about 3.8m/1.3m which isnt bad by any means, however with full rollout you should speeds around 12m/5m. Not LTE but alot faster current "3G"
Drew
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full roullout? haha
that' another ATT BS lies! if they can rename their 3G networks as 4G, why cant they call LTE as 5G?
on att map, it shows i have 4G coverage in bayarea CA, but speedtests never go over 4mb! speedtest on inspire is the same as any 3G phones!
someone please complain to FCC about att 4G BS!

Im not arguing the semantics of 4G, im simply stating that with the proper Back haul and HSPA+ upgrades, people will experience faster then current 3G data speeds.
Yes the whole 3g 4g definitions are confusing and this is a direct fault of the telecoms
Drew

Sportsguy15 said:
I know several people who are sales reps at ATT making 60k+ a year. Nice try though.
It sounds to me that the friend lied.
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I mod the att forum at hofo. One time an att Rep said they roam on Verizon towers. Just saying, most reps don't know all that much.

You can break your Verizon Contract now..

just saw it on droid life...
so who all are jumping the boat??

YYEEEEEESSSSSSSS!!! FINALL.. oh wait, Im not on Verizon..
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I'll be happy to help those folks push off the docks when they're all aboard...
If someone gave me the speed, reliability and quality/coverage for voice VZW did...I'd think about jumping.
Around here...it doesn't exist.

dajogejr said:
I'll be happy to help those folks push off the docks when they're all aboard...
If someone gave me the speed, reliability and quality/coverage for voice VZW did...I'd think about jumping.
Around here...it doesn't exist.
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hahaha.. I hear ya!.. and I have no plans of leaving VZW.. but I'll see if I can arm-twist VZW in giving a free phone for my wife

kriskmk said:
hahaha.. I hear ya!.. and I have no plans of leaving VZW.. but I'll see if I can arm-twist VZW in giving a free phone for my wife
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Ya, I hear you on this one. I was with T-Mobile for about 14 years. Got the G1 when it came out, upgraded inbetween and finally ended up with a G2 (I do miss physical keyboards).
Anyways, pretty sad that I had a 4G (term used lightly) and not only couldn't get 4G where I lived, but didn't even have 3G either and was stuck on edge.
So I switched to VZW and I get 3G everywhere (don't have 4G yet where I live).
So finally, I go on a cross country trip from Kansas City to So California (have done this before for vacation). Lo and behold...I was quite impressed with the coverage I had all throughout the trip. 3G virtually everywhere (even in the mountains) and the 4G (Denver, Vegas and Cali) was absolutely wonderful. With T-mobile, most of my trip would have been no data or edge(1x) at best.
The saddest thing is that my 3g speed on VZW is faster than my 4G speed was on T-Mobile.
So like you sad, I would not give up the great coverage to save a few bucks.

This really is quite nice.
Verizon has given me the shaft here and there when it comes to troubleshooting issues I have with service and such, but they have been pretty reliable otherwise.
I kind of think this shows they have faith in their service, at least enough to give people the option of leaving at will.

I have had Verizon for a few months. It's been a good experience so far. Signal is good. Prices are a little higher..... But you get what you pay for.
Was on att for 10 years.
CM7 RC 06

To all those who wish to up and jump ship I say, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. No carrier will make everyone happy, if VZW is not for you, who are we to tell you to stay? Hopefully your next carrier will treat you better. In then end, they all want nothing other than your $$. For me, VZW has provided consistently better service than AT&T.

Here is the link from Droid Life: http://www.droid-life.com/2011/06/2...th-no-termination-fee-now-may-be-your-chance/

kriskmk said:
hahaha.. I hear ya!.. and I have no plans of leaving VZW.. but I'll see if I can arm-twist VZW in giving a free phone for my wife
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Thank you sir for the inspiration. I will be joining your free phone crusade on the first
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l7777 said:
To all those who wish to up and jump ship I say, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. No carrier will make everyone happy, if VZW is not for you, who are we to tell you to stay? Hopefully your next carrier will treat you better. In then end, they all want nothing other than your $$. For me, VZW has provided consistently better service than AT&T.
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My thoughts exactly. I just came from AT&T and had a "4G" phone and was LUCKY when I'd get 3G. What a POS company they are and what POS service they have around the country. I've been on VzW for about a month and I've never had less than 3 bars of 3G yet! Plus their LTE is freakin retarded fast. I can deal with their customer support because typically I don't need them for anything.
If you want to go peace out thanks for the extra bandwidth!

Mustang302LX said:
My thoughts exactly. I just came from AT&T and had a "4G" phone and was LUCKY when I'd get 3G. What a POS company they are and what POS service they have around the country. I've been on VzW for about a month and I've never had less than 3 bars of 3G yet! Plus their LTE is freakin retarded fast. I can deal with their customer support because typically I don't need them for anything.
If you want to go peace out thanks for the extra bandwidth!
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What he said ^^^^
Mustang and I came over around the same time. I actually paid a cancellation fee with AT&T I was so fed up. Happy I made the switch. My Inspire 4G was more like 2.1G.
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Well I am not on Verizon, I have been on Sprint since '97. Thinking of switching cause the service is getting crappy as hell. Data is constantly going in and out. And for the plan I have with 5 phones Verizon isn't that much more. I keep reading about how satisfied folks are with their data coverage.
"Hell I don't know anymore"

selders59 said:
Well I am not on Verizon, I have been on Sprint since '97. Thinking of switching cause the service is getting crappy as hell. Data is constantly going in and out. And for the plan I have with 5 phones Verizon isn't that much more. I keep reading about how satisfied folks are with their data coverage.
"Hell I don't know anymore"
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My advice is to come on over before tiered data kicks in. Sprint was actually my second choice, happy with vzw though.
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selders59 said:
Well I am not on Verizon, I have been on Sprint since '97. Thinking of switching cause the service is getting crappy as hell. Data is constantly going in and out. And for the plan I have with 5 phones Verizon isn't that much more. I keep reading about how satisfied folks are with their data coverage.
"Hell I don't know anymore"
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It's time to jump if you want a chance at keeping unlimited data. Unfortunately only the tech savvy can see that 2GB is not enough going into the future of cloud based services just as 150MB was not enough when data services were just starting to be offered. That said, if you're a heavy data user, VZW seems to have the best network for you.

I have tried all but TMobil over the last 10+ years. Had verizon back in early 2000s . Changed to sprint because verizon service was terrible. Had sprint 2 yrs then ATT or cingular as it was then, 2 yrs then back to sprint. Dumped sprint 2 1/2 yrs ago because of very terrible service areas and customer service really bad. Went back to verizon ( swore i would never do ) and plan on staying quite a while longer. 2 yrs more for the T Bolt . Seems each of these companies over time become too big and gready for their own good . Then the consumer speaks and they loose money. Its a wild ride if we can hold on for it. True verizon is on its too big for its own good ride agian but untill service areas become really bad or prices are for the millionare only, I will stay put for next 2 yrs with my locked in $30.00 unlimited data plan and see what happens.
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lrs421 said:
My advice is to come on over before tiered data kicks in. Sprint was actually my second choice, happy with vzw though.
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Ya, I thought about going to Sprint as well, but I just didn't like the fact that they were going to charge me 10 dollars extra a month if I got a 4G phone, even if there was no 4G coverage where I lived.

I'm not sure why anyone would leave Verizon. Coming from Sprint, it's heaven over here.

selders59 said:
Well I am not on Verizon, I have been on Sprint since '97. Thinking of switching cause the service is getting crappy as hell. Data is constantly going in and out. And for the plan I have with 5 phones Verizon isn't that much more. I keep reading about how satisfied folks are with their data coverage.
"Hell I don't know anymore"
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I say you swicth before unlimited is gone trust me it isgonna be more. But 4g is worth it and it dowsnt waste your battery like wimax does for real look at the scrennshots
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That's 3g not bad considerng the area didn't haveas good signal
4g without even. Trying at home I get up to 20mbps which is great and even morein some areas and doesn't kill the battery like wimax on my og evo
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lrs421 said:
What he said ^^^^
Mustang and I came over around the same time. I actually paid a cancellation fee with AT&T I was so fed up. Happy I made the switch. My Inspire 4G was more like 2.1G.
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I was planning on sticking with god awful AT&T but then got the chance to switch to VzW and save money each month so I jumped on that! I too had to pay to get out but ported my numbers and now I actually get signal and I'm not embarassed to say I have a 4G device lol.
P.S. - I'm not knocking the Inspire as I LOVED the actual phone (minus the idiotic camera design).

Switched from AT&T to Straight Talk!!!

For those of you who don't like shelling out the gobs of cash to AT&T...I have the link for you!
http://www.straighttalksim.com/
I received my AT&T sim in the mail from Straight Talk along with the new APN information...and voila...I'm getting the same (if not faster) download speeds than I was with AT&T. Actually, I've been strangely getting more bars than I was w/AT&T. Not sure why...since it's the same network. Anyways...this transformed my bill from $130 per month to $45 per month for unlimited talk, text and web. I don't work for Walmart or anything...I just wanted to share some savings info with those who are interested! When they say on the website "cut your phone bill in half" they're not kidding! I wonder how Wally World can get away with sending AT&T roms...offer the same service...for half the cost? I dunno...but I'm not complaining!
Now...I doubt you'd get 4G speeds....but I've never truly had 4G speeds...so I'm not missing anything.

Thinking about doing this just to activate the inspire I have laying around with a cracked screen. Its between this, and redpocket
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Maybe the new sim gave you a better signal?
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I did this last month. Best decision I ever made. The only catch I've found is that the data isn't really unlimited, it's a use it but don't abuse it policy. I believe they will throttle you if you hog too much.
What radio are you using? I think I need a new one, mine keeps switching between 3G and H.

Been thinking of doing the same thing as soon as my contract is up.. Any activation fees or anything like that? What'd they charge for the sim?
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I have been using Straight Talk for 6months with a sim card from a Nokia E71. This is known as the old sim swap method. Works great roams and all. From everything I've researched this uses the AT&T postpaid network.
The new sim card program they have charges you $14.95 for the sim card, and they had free shipping. NO activation fees or anything else.
This is the best data speed I've gotten though it's not usually this good. I'm using the 12.56.60.25P_26.10.04.03_M radio
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Been thinking of doing this myself. But I have some worries. What happens when one day you decide to stream some video or audio and Straight Talk up and cancels your account? I would hate to lose a telephone number I have had for the last 12 years.

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Been thinking of doing this myself. But I have some worries. What happens when one day you decide to stream some video or audio and Straight Talk up and cancels your account? I would hate to lose a telephone number I have had for the last 12 years.
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Good point. Also I average 9.6gbs with att now....who knows what straighttalk would say about that every month lmao
I got your 10 char right here
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Agoattamer said:
Been thinking of doing this myself. But I have some worries. What happens when one day you decide to stream some video or audio and Straight Talk up and cancels your account? I would hate to lose a telephone number I have had for the last 12 years.
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The word is if you keep it under 2gb a month and 170mb a day you should be good. Just use 3g watchdog and monitor it. I stream stuff all the time, just be aware of how much data you are using. I've had no problems though I've never exceeded the so called limits.
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cwhitney24 said:
Good point. Also I average 9.6gbs with att now....who knows what straighttalk would say about that every month lmao
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WOW! That's a lot of data! I would think they will have to come up with some limits if they are going to cut off service because you are using too much so called "unlimited" data. Guess we'll have to wait and see once this thing gets going full bore. If you can keep your usage to 2gb a month and 170mb a day then this is a great deal! If not I wouldn't risk it at this point..

A few months ago another carrier said unlimited data was unlimited but they could make changes if they saw fit for the network. And everyone thought it meant nothing then. Straight Talk says no media streaming and only download from their network. They could turn on you tomorrow too. I see nothing in writing about 2GB.

Agoattamer said:
A few months ago another carrier said unlimited data was unlimited but they could make changes if they saw fit for the network. And everyone thought it meant nothing then. Straight Talk says no media streaming and only download from their network. They could turn on you tomorrow too. I see nothing in writing about 2GB.
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Great point...ok ill be staying with "lovely" att
I got your 10 char right here
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UR right nothing in writing about 2gb, but it has been good for me for the last 6 months. If you read the terms they say they can cut you off at anytime pretty much! You're right they could turn at any time. Guess it all depends on your situation, for me I'm willing to take the risk. lol

I keep my friends close (straight talk ) and my enemies even closer (AT$T).
At least the beast is predictable ....
I'll watch this thread with great interest for a while ....
Thank you for the information ....g

gregsarg said:
I keep my friends close (straight talk ) and my enemies even closer (AT$T).
At least the beast is predictable ....
I'll watch this thread with great interest for a while ....
Thank you for the information ....g
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You have a way with words my man

I looked at Straightalk, too. Wish they had a pay as you go plan, rather than monthly, with similar discount. I like options. There are several of of these non-contract companies but not much chat about them. Thanks for starting the thread, op. I have also heard similar talk about the 2Gb. cap, so that poster didn't just make it up. It might not be in writting but it seems to be what the users are experiencing.

I have decided to go Verizion as soon as my contract is up, ATT sucks. No 4G network and I cannot even get service at my house.

kraze1994 said:
I have decided to go Verizion as soon as my contract is up, ATT sucks. No 4G network and I cannot even get service at my house.
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ATT sucks because they don't have phone service in your area? No phone carrier has service everywhere. You never should have stayed with ATT in the first place if you didn't have service. And ATT has a 4G network, at least as much as T-mobile does and as the FCC now defines it. They also have LTE which is faster than Verizon's LTE. And what does your post have to do with Straight Talk?

I too have been thinking of going to ST. I don't go over 5gb. I wonder if that is still to much for them. I don't like att as much as the next person but I do have good signal and do get 4G in my area. Has anyone found anything about the 2gb?
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Switching to ST
hi guys, just got htc inspire not long ago and flashed with Energy ROM yesterday, currently using t-mobile, switching to ST this monday!!!

Ephemeralness said:
I did this last month. Best decision I ever made. The only catch I've found is that the data isn't really unlimited, it's a use it but don't abuse it policy. I believe they will throttle you if you hog too much.
What radio are you using? I think I need a new one, mine keeps switching between 3G and H.
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For the record, AT&T's is like that too. They throttle you if you're in the top 5% of data users.

Verizon To End Unlimited Data For Upgraders

In case you haven't seem the news, Verizon is up to douchbagery again.
http://www.4029tv.com/mostpopular/31073483/detail.html
"nickel and dime, bleed you dry." That should be the new slogan.

emtee_skull said:
In case you haven't seem the news, Verizon is up to douchbagery again.
http://www.4029tv.com/mostpopular/31073483/detail.html
"nickel and dime, bleed you dry." That should be the new slogan.
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I read that too... They started hitting everyone with $30 "upgrade fees" anytime you upgrade now too. Awful.

mmm guess im moving on when i upgrade

Would it be smart to buy a gnex now, save my upgrade on November to keep the unlimited plan?
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Well, this will probably be my last year on verizon .... Unless I figure out a way to keep my unlimited plan. I wonder if I buy a new phone off ebay and do not upgrade through vz if they would drop my plan anyway?
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I may have spoken too soon. We still need more details of the shared data plan. Being on as shared plan, there might not be a way around it.
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Right now its only if your still on 3g unlimited and you upgrade
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This means I will be on the Charge forever! :what:
Also means we will definitely never going to see an official ics on our phone.
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cujo6801 said:
Right now its only if your still on 3g unlimited and you upgrade
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By the end of the year they will charge $30 per mb of data! Jst kidding ppl, or am I?
The solution is to use wifi at all times, and here is how to do it when you are not at home:
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If they drop unlimited due to changing phones not using an upgrade then I am out.
Greedy fuxtix

khalilcr said:
By the end of the year they will charge $30 per mb of data! Jst kidding ppl, or am I?
The solution is to use wifi at all times, and here is how to do it when you are not at home:
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Lmfao...
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khalilcr said:
By the end of the year they will charge $30 per mb of data! Jst kidding ppl, or am I?
The solution is to use wifi at all times, and here is how to do it when you are not at home:
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That's exactly what they want you to do! They're making sure that they have the bandwidth to support the 4G iPhone when it hits the street.

khalilcr said:
Well, this will probably be my last year on verizon .... Unless I figure out a way to keep my unlimited plan. I wonder if I buy a new phone off ebay and do not upgrade through vz if they would drop my plan anyway?
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I have acquired my last half dozen or so phones from Craigslist (even though I am eligible for an upgrade). I have not (yet) been charged for changing phones. I was able to get away from being 'throttled' this way when I got my Charge off CL for $125. Vzw even gave me a SIM card. I plan to continue this until they force me into some ridiculous fee/plan structure; at which time I will go to Sprint.

I hope ATT will get their LTE network up to par by the time my vzw's contract expires. Then it'll become an apple-to-apple comparison between the two of them, so, with no unlimited plan advantage, who cares anymore. I'll be jumping ship if I have to to get the coolest phone from whomever carries them.

Shammo? Jeez, even the guys name is "sham".
Money grubbing whores...
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Looks like you can keep your unlimited plan so long as you do not use an upgrade.
That unlimited metro pcs 4glte plan for $70 total per month is looking awfully tasty...

bwheelies said:
Looks like you can keep your unlimited plan so long as you do not use an upgrade.
That unlimited metro pcs 4glte plan for $70 total per month is looking awfully tasty...
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The problem with these guys though is that they have craptastic phones with like no dev community... otherwise I would jump right at them

Hmm i think the real reason they are doing the whole data share thing is because ICS can stop data usage once you hit a certain amount so it foolproofs overage charges... until when you don't have a personal data limit anymore but a shared data limit

My theory is that they are getting ready for the influx of new LTE users that the rumored LTE iPhone is going to bring, because that is going to bring a ton of new LTE traffic in a very short period of time.

Upgrade now or wait?
I have 3 upgrades coming in the next 2 months. I want to use one for galaxy S3. I got a smokin deal right now for Galaxy Nexus. Don't know if I should wait or take nexus?
The reason why Im asking is it is my understanding they are planning to force us to shared data at upgrade... right. Should I upgrade all 3 or take just the nexus or sit and wait? What do you guys think