i just for the TB today. i returned my X2 which was laggy and im happy with the TB. i see all kinds of posts bout how people are bricking there phones so i would like to ask all of you,
is it safe to root and install a custom rom? if so what is the safest way to do so?
Thanks so much...
Its all up to you if you feel comfortable rooting your phone or not, there will always be some inherent risk involved.
I have mine rooted and I have had no problems with it and thoroughly enjoy it.
Follow JCase's root method that's stickied in the development section if you choose to root.
A lot of the concern about bricking is from the leaked GB radio that some people are using so you could always stick with Froyo if you want to avoid that risk.
I rooted my Thunderbolt after I had it for a week. The first week being unrooted was terrible. The battery life was horrible, and I contemplated returning it for an iphone.
Then I rooted, which was easy as long as you follow the directions posted in the threads. Now I can easily get a full day of use with my stock battery... off the charger for 17+ hours with 4G, bluetooth and wifi always enabled, and GPS enabled sporadically.
I'd say read up on the root process. Then read up on different roms. I use Das BAMF 1.7, and Imoseyon's 2.6 lean kernel. If you determine that root isn't for you, there's easy ways to unroot.
It's not the rooting process that is bricking phones. Rooting is perfectly safe, as long as you follow the steps. The bricks have occurred after flashing the recent Gingerbread leak. If you stick with a Froyo-based rom, you will be fine.
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It's not the rooting process that is bricking phones. Rooting is perfectly safe, as long as you follow the steps. The bricks have occurred after flashing the recent Gingerbread leak. If you stick with a Froyo-based rom, you will be fine.
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That was also always my undertsanding, that all rooting does is give you permissions that would normally not be available. What you choose to do with those permissions once you have root is the risky part.
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It's not the rooting process that is bricking phones. Rooting is perfectly safe, as long as you follow the steps. The bricks have occurred after flashing the recent Gingerbread leak. If you stick with a Froyo-based rom, you will be fine.
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Mine was one of the few that did brick and I had to send it off for 2 weeks before it was replaced.
The first thing I did when I got home with my new Thunderbolt was root it and flash a Froyo ROM.
@bp328i
But you were running the leaked GB for a few days prior to bricking, right?
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But you were running the leaked GB for a few days prior to bricking, right?
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I was running the leaked GB when my Thunderbolt bricked.
I meant to quote the OP just to let him/her know it IS safe to root.
I just got my new Thunderbolt a few days ago and the first thing I did with it was root it, and this was after my first one bricked.
As someone who bought a TB a week after it came out, screwed up my first root attempt, got it the second time after "unrooting" and has since loaded a ton of different ROMs, radios, and kernels, I can safely say you have nothing to worry about.
As long as you're following the instructions, that is. Can't account for human error, after all
All these bricked phones are being bricked by people who flashed the newest leaked gingerbread (gb) radio onto their devices in order to run the leaked gb rom. Even flashing the newest gb rom+radio didn't mean your device was going to be bricked to sure, it was just a few whos were bricked. If perfectly safe to root as long as you follow instruction and I don't see anything risky about installing apps with any permissions as long as you get the app is from a creditable market place.
The long way of rooting seems easy for me all I did was get adb running and copy pasted the commands on the command prompt.
Yep. Definitely safe as long as you follow the directions and stay away from the Gingerbread radios.
I rooted mine two weeks after I got it. Hubby finally caved and let me root his after seeing the differences.
Grab you an md5 checker and give it a shot!
thanks everyone for your help...i appreicate it.
i am rooting it now!
what radio should i stay away from as far as causing the reboots?
Rooting your thunderbolt will cause a mass alien invasion over the city of Los Angeles.
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What everyone else said there is some risk(minisule) if you stick with froyo you should be fine, if you end up with the reboot problem post rooting flash the radios to the old versions and your tb life will be much more sweet.
dvigue said:
thanks everyone for your help...i appreicate it.
i am rooting it now!
what radio should i stay away from as far as causing the reboots?
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The gingerbread radio. Any froyo rom will be good to go.
rooted and flashed a new kernel with no issues thus far.yay.
Couple questions. First, which is the easiest and safest root method? Droid 2 rooting was a simple one-click affair. I see lots of methods around, including automated, one-click roots. Jcase's post ([ROOT] MR1/OTA PermRoot + Unlock Bootloader - Safer/Easier 5/12/2011) looks pretty complicated. Is this the one I should do?
Second, I am really tempted to flash a gingerbread rom (th3ory b1.7), and I've flashed several GB roms to my droid 2 before recently getting the TB. If I carefully follow the instructions in the threads, am I pretty safe, or is the GB radio thing still pretty risky?
timp123 said:
Couple questions. First, which is the easiest and safest root method? Droid 2 rooting was a simple one-click affair. I see lots of methods around, including automated, one-click roots. Jcase's post ([ROOT] MR1/OTA PermRoot + Unlock Bootloader - Safer/Easier 5/12/2011) looks pretty complicated. Is this the one I should do?
Second, I am really tempted to flash a gingerbread rom (th3ory b1.7), and I've flashed several GB roms to my droid 2 before recently getting the TB. If I carefully follow the instructions in the threads, am I pretty safe, or is the GB radio thing still pretty risky?
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1. The easiest is the one-click method. However, if you are not familiar with adb, I highly recommend doing it the way described in jcase's thread. That way you get experience with adb. Anyone even considering rooting needs to know basic adb commands.
2. To my knowledge, there have been no bricks with the GB radio posted here. But remember there are no 100% guarantees when rooting/flashing your phone. Good luck
wish people would stop blaming the radio,my first bolt bricket on stock froyo after the first ota update,never had gingerbread on it. as far as rooting goes if you eant the phone to work to itd potential you need to root it and flash a custom rom that or wait tol vzw and htc decide to update it to gingerbread or even icecream for that matter
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Hi,
I know it sounds weird, but I've noticed that there are numerous uses reported something doesn't work after flashing a ROM. So I was wondering if I can just root my phone without flashing a new ROM. So basically what I asked is to do the root with my current stock ROM.
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happyaray said:
Hi,
I know it sounds weird, but I've noticed that there are numerous uses reported something doesn't work after flashing a ROM. So I was wondering if I can just root my phone without flashing a new ROM. So basically what I asked is to do the root with my current stock ROM.
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Just flash a stock rooted rom.
Yes all you would do is root and it will still be stock. No problems at all. But I would recomend turning off the setting that searches for updates because being rooted and accepting ota updates does some funky things to your phone from what I've heard.
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You don't have to flash a stock rom after rooting. Rooting doesn't do anything to the stock rom on your phone in terms of having to flash something else.
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You don't have to flash a stock rom after rooting. Rooting doesn't do anything to the stock rom on your phone in terms of having to flash something else.
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Technically the rooting process itself flashes a downgraded ROM in order to do the root. It then flashes the stock ROM over that (at least Bubbys tool does, I'm not sure about what the hack kit does, as I haven't used it personally).
So just the act of rooting does indeed flash over whatever is on your phone prior to rooting. There is no root for this phone without flashing taking place.
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Thanks Scott.
So no matter what if I would like to achieve the same thing then I would do flash a stocked ROM.
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happyaray said:
Thanks Scott.
So no matter what if I would like to achieve the same thing then I would do flash a stocked ROM.
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Well at the very least, you want the stock ROM, as the initial ROM that MUST be flashed in order to achieve root is a downgraded ROM in which you will have no sound (it's from the Desire, near-identical phone, but incompatible radios).
This is only temporary, as long as you finish the process.
The thing is, at least with Bubbys simple root method, putting the stock ROM back on is done for you, assuming you fully complete the process.
What you end up with, when it's all said-and-done, is a stock, rooted ROM, at which point you can leave it stock, or proceed to flash one of the many available custom roms.
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My previous phone was an HTC Aria, and it's the only phone I flashed a custom ROM to before getting this Inspire 4G (which I am considering rooting). On the Aria, after flashing a custom ROM to the phone, I had to start over entering all of my account usernames & passwords, installing the apps I wanted, etc. It took a long time to get the phone back to where I wanted it, but it was worth it to get the wi-fi hotspot feature.
If I root my Inspire using Bubby's simple root method, but don't do anything else, will I have to start from scratch again with installing the apps, entering credentials for all of the services I use (basically a fresh out of-the-box experience)?
Don't use bubby's. It hasn't been supported in several months, and it will not work if your phone has GB. The best and only way to root is using the Ace Hack Kit. Just make sure you read and follow the instructions.
BTW: A little search and reading would have given you the answer to your question. Not to be nasty about it, but it makes the Devs life easier and they are the reason this site exists.
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My previous phone was an HTC Aria, and it's the only phone I flashed a custom ROM to before getting this Inspire 4G (which I am considering rooting). On the Aria, after flashing a custom ROM to the phone, I had to start over entering all of my account usernames & passwords, installing the apps I wanted, etc. It took a long time to get the phone back to where I wanted it, but it was worth it to get the wi-fi hotspot feature.
If I root my Inspire using Bubby's simple root method, but don't do anything else, will I have to start from scratch again with installing the apps, entering credentials for all of the services I use (basically a fresh out of-the-box experience)?
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Wow, I can't even believe I'm going to say this again to someone, well actually I can but YOU NEED TO READ!!!! Please do your research before asking a question. I'm happy you didn't start a new thread but a little annoyed you dug up a 5 month old thread to ask a question that can be answered by searching!!!First issue, do not use Bubby's, what part of outdated is confusing. Please take a stroll over to the dev section and see the hack kit thread. read that sucker. than take a moment to let it sink in, then read it again to fully understand it. Please do your research so you don't destroy your phone.
Yea thats what my friend did, he rooted but stayed on the stock rom
I'm very new to rooting, I've looked at many of the Root processes and I've been a lurker for about 4 months. and i've about decided to use Bubby's for the sake of easy rooting process.
I do have a couple of questions that I cannot seem to find solid answers on.
1) If I root using bubby's method, the rom that gets installed, is that still an inspire rom? or is it a Gingerbread rom? If it is not a gingerbread rom is there one that people would suggest that I use?
2) if AT&T decides to put out the Gingerbread rom at a later date (est this summer) can I install it and maintain my root or will it remove the root? and what is the risk of upgrading?
The two major reasons that I want to root is I want to be able to use the amazon appstore, and I want to rid myself of the bloat ware. From what I've read Gingerbread is a significant improvement and I'd like to go to that version if possible.
I've previously owned an iPhone and was very disappointed even with the device jailbroken. I'm used to that process and it's really simple and no issue. This one is clearly more complex. But I'd like to limit my downtime on my device.
Obievil said:
I do have a couple of questions that I cannot seem to find solid answers on.
1) If I root using bubby's method, the rom that gets installed, is that still an inspire rom? or is it a Gingerbread rom? If it is not a gingerbread rom is there one that people would suggest that I use?
2) if AT&T decides to put out the Gingerbread rom at a later date (est this summer) can I install it and maintain my root or will it remove the root? and what is the risk of upgrading?
The two major reasons that I want to root is I want to be able to use the amazon appstore, and I want to rid myself of the bloat ware. From what I've read Gingerbread is a significant improvement and I'd like to go to that version if possible.
I've previously owned an iPhone and was very disappointed even with the device jailbroken. I'm used to that process and it's really simple and no issue. This one is clearly more complex. But I'd like to limit my downtime on my device.
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if you root the phone, your rom will still the same old ATT rom but "unlocked". you will have to flash a GB rom to get GB. There are plenty of GB roms already here in the DEV section.
if ATT upgrades to GB, dont worry, people here will provide many upgraded rooted versions of GB for you to download.
Obievil said:
I'm very new to rooting, I've looked at many of the Root processes and I've been a lurker for about 4 months. and i've about decided to use Bubby's for the sake of easy rooting process.
I do have a couple of questions that I cannot seem to find solid answers on.
1) If I root using bubby's method, the rom that gets installed, is that still an inspire rom? or is it a Gingerbread rom? If it is not a gingerbread rom is there one that people would suggest that I use?
2) if AT&T decides to put out the Gingerbread rom at a later date (est this summer) can I install it and maintain my root or will it remove the root? and what is the risk of upgrading?
The two major reasons that I want to root is I want to be able to use the amazon appstore, and I want to rid myself of the bloat ware. From what I've read Gingerbread is a significant improvement and I'd like to go to that version if possible.
I've previously owned an iPhone and was very disappointed even with the device jailbroken. I'm used to that process and it's really simple and no issue. This one is clearly more complex. But I'd like to limit my downtime on my device.
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If/when you do root, I would recommend using LeeDroid's GB rom. Very stable, fast, and excellent battery life, with none of the bloat ware.
Whatever ROM you chose, make sure you read the instructions for flashing. Any questions, just post. Most people are more then willing to help.
I used Bubby's, it was pretty easy and worked fine. Here is a How To in case you don't have one...http://androidforums.com/inspire-4g-all-things-root/310442-how-root-official-guide.html
Good luck!
Thanks!
Now I just need to back up my photos/data.
Good luck
I also rooted using Bubby's method, and after two weeks or so with the (rooted) stock ROM I decided to upgrade to Gingerbread with the Android Revolution ROM. It runs smoothly, battery life isn't perfect but it's fine.
If you're going to flash ROMs with custom radios, I recommend you read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1054304
I've spent some time on the forum trying to find an answer, but obviously that didnt happen.
I have my GS4G and want to just ROOT it without installing any rom to replace the firmware.
1. If i root my phone, can i do JUST that? or are there other steps after simply rooting that are considered important for the stability of my phone?
2. After i root my phone, will i still be able to do the kiesmini/OTA gingerbread *official* (not leaked) update?
My main reason for wanting to do this is for the bloatware and increasing performance, and to just have overall more 'control' (similar to the feeling of wiping a new computer from the manufacture's preloaded poop).
I have superoneclick v1.9.5. I used it as a test on my old MT3G, and installed the GingerYoshi rom, and all worked very well. I just dont want to brick my GS4G, as i paid full price D:.
sorry if this has been asked/answered, i try to play by the rules, but just didnt find my answer.
thanks,
Greg
Super one click root 1.7 was what I used. It just roots the phone, as any other rooting method should. You can get ota fine...I always did. Never had a problem.
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Just so you know there's no one-click root method for Gingerbread for the SGS4G yet. Maybe around the time the official ROM comes out there will be.
what does:
"error:more than one device"
mean?? That pops up when i hit root. I only have one phone connected to my PC.
I'm assuming its multiple instances of ADB running? Im not sure..
*EDIT* My mistake lol. still had my MT3G plugged in, my bad!
successfully rooted. Thanks
Hello all,
I am fairly new to android, the Epic is my first android phone purchased on launch day. But I am very new to HTC and the EVO Shift. I just purchased one for my wife. I was wondering if someone could point me to some instructions, or just give me some, on how to best install clockwork and a rom. Her phone came with the latest update. Basically I would prefer to remain stock with just root and wireless tether. If anyone could help me accomplish this I would greatly appreciate it.
You are going to have to look at the temp root thread that is right here in this forum since she is on the newest update. You are kind of limited to what you can do unless a permanent root solution is found. Wireless tether should work. I think you may be able to remove or freeze the bloat using somethin like titanium but it will probably come back when you reboot. Can't use any custom roms yet either...
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Hello all,
I am fairly new to android, the Epic is my first android phone purchased on launch day. But I am very new to HTC and the EVO Shift. I just purchased one for my wife. I was wondering if someone could point me to some instructions, or just give me some, on how to best install clockwork and a rom. Her phone came with the latest update. Basically I would prefer to remain stock with just root and wireless tether. If anyone could help me accomplish this I would greatly appreciate it.
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The only root that has been gained on the evo shift GB update is temproot no perm root yet so on a simple reboot you lose root, there is no recovery and no custom roms while temp rooted, there are a couple threads dedicated to this stuff here already
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strapped365 said:
The only root that has been gained on the evo shift GB update is temproot no perm root yet so on a simple reboot you lose root, there is no recovery and no custom roms while temp rooted, there are a couple threads dedicated to this stuff here already
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Yeah I knew there was only temp root but I saw some roms that were gingerbread with root. So I didn't understand how that was. I thought maybe if you could get clockwork installed with temp root you could still flash a rom. So are the gingerbread roms only for people on froyo? Can you downgrade to froyo and upgrade to the gingerbread rom? Also what do you use to flash roms. With samsung you have odin. What do you use on htc? I see mention of ruu but have seen nothing on how to use it or where to get it. Sorry for so many questions and being really new to this side of the pond.
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crawrj said:
Yeah I knew there was only temp root but I saw some roms that were gingerbread with root. So I didn't understand how that was. I thought maybe if you could get clockwork installed with temp root you could still flash a rom. So are the gingerbread roms only for people on froyo? Can you downgrade to froyo and upgrade to the gingerbread rom? Also what do you use to flash roms. With samsung you have odin. What do you use on htc? I see mention of ruu but have seen nothing on how to use it or where to get it. Sorry for so many questions and being really new to this side of the pond.
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Flashing clockworkMod while temp rooted isn't going to work, as soon as your phone tries to reboot you lose root. So you can't access Clockwork, which is how/where you flash ROMs. Currently there is no way to revert back to froyo, the new bootloaders do not recognize the froyo RUU. Basically until a perm root solution is found, temp root is the best you can do.
The ROMs that you see are for user that rooted while running froyo and never took the "official" update from HTC.
Did you buy your phone brand new or used? Go to settings about phone, software information.
If you have Android 2.2 you can root your phone. Otherwise you are screwed until HTC unlocks the bootloader.
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Did you buy your phone brand new or used? Go to settings about phone, software information.
If you have Android 2.2 you can root your phone. Otherwise you are screwed until HTC unlocks the bootloader.
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He said brand new so that means it came with 2.3.3
OK I will wait patiently until perma root has been established. Thank you all for all of the information.
I think I'm finally giving up on getting my thunderbolt running the way it should, what's the best way to root the thunderbolt at this time?
Software Version: 1.70.605.0
I just rooted my first Thunderbolt 2 days ago easily. Just google randomtek thunderbolt root.
Do yourself a favor and use the Revolutionary method. If not that, do the ADB method. If bricking your device and having no support for it interest you, find one of the one-click methods. Those do a very good job bricking devices or leaving the user totally screwed.
I like the old adb method because its easier to go back to stock for replacements, and revolutionary took almost as long because I had to keep entering my info to get a key that worked.
Revolutionary worked flawlessy for me (once I figured out what the hell I was doing)
Revolutionary is the easiest.
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I did mine one of the one click methods and here I am 5 months later not bricked
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I did mine one of the one click methods and here I am 5 months later not bricked
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They do work for some people but they have a very high rate of failure compared to other methods. I would recommend the adb method or revolutionary, I personally like adb because I have to revert to stock on a weekly basis.
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Revolutionary is the easiest.
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Agreed! Worked great!
Could someone please school me on this...but isn't the oneclick method pretty much the same as adb. only difference is that adb you have to manually type the commands and push the files to the phone. thanks.
amahabir said:
Could someone please school me on this...but isn't the oneclick method pretty much the same as adb. only difference is that adb you have to manually type the commands and push the files to the phone. thanks.
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The problem is without taking apart the script and finding out exactly what it's doing and what files it's supposed to be using, you can't tell if it works. Most of the one-click scripts came out before RUU 1.70. Forget it if you're devices is updated to RUU 2.11 GB. More of them will **** your device up than root it if you're on that update. We have a stickied thread on this subject in development by a guy who invented the ADB root method for the Tbolt. Every one-click script is based off of that, however his guide and files have changed over time to work with all the OTA's. The one-clicks don't keep up with it, and there's no way to know until you take the script apart. I've helped too many people try to recover from these stupid, lazy-ass one-click cop-outs on doing it right to help one more fool who's read what I've written and done the opposite.
So.... Basically, if you want a root method with support, you're going to use ADB or Revolutionary. Pretty simple.
Ahhhh, I see. the next one i root, i will definitely use adb then...thanks man.
I now feel like i've dodged a bootloop bullet.
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I did mine one of the one click methods and here I am 5 months later not bricked
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It won't brick it later ! It's during the process that the risk of bricking it is higher. If it works, all is well.
I used revolution for the 1st time this week on a restored stock Tbolt. It worked great for me and was much faster than ADB.
The only thing I dont like is the new blue text on black screen that gets loaded for CWM. I find this hard to read compared to white text on a black screen.
You can replace the recovery console that they link to. I have to agree with you too, blue text on black background is not the easiest thing to read.
I did my first root a few days ago with revolutionary.io. I've been reading on rooting my bolt for quite awhile. I decided to wait until the GB OTA then work on the root process. I was one of the few who received the OTA and was extremely unimpressed!
I was amazed at how easy it was to gain s-off. I was nervous at first taking the plunge. Now that it's done I've flashed 2 different roms. Currently using synergy 262 and thoroughly enjoying it.
I have a biased opinion since I've never tried "one-click" or ADB. However, revolutionary works, easy to understand, and it's also easy to revert to stock it needed.
Went with synergy yesterday... love it so far
Thanks everyone I was able to get root with revolution, but then had to make the connection to download rom manager or how to load from the new bootloader.
Running BAMF right now, meh it's ok but was expecting more from what I felt people were so hyped up about.
i rooted my phone but now i can't install roms. and there's a verizon update that keeps auto-updating on my phone and that **** ****s it up
Will Revolutionary work with the new GB OTA installed? If not, what will? I am fed up with these uninstallable apps eating my battery.