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Why are the pictures so poor??

I am coming from a Vibrant and although by the time I bought this phone the Vibrant was laggy, GPS was hit and miss, and allot of apps would force close, it still had a very good camera. I don't understand why this camera at 5mp takes such poor pics. I have a very good camera but sometimes I do forget it, it's too heavy, or I don't charge it so having a nice camera on the phone would be beneficial. Anyone know how to fix this problem?
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You really think the camera is bad? Seems better than the hd2 I had. Have you blown them up on a computer and looked at them or are you just going off the phone? Maybe im just easy to please its really fast and works pretty well
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No I haven't blown them up I just zoom in from the phone itself. I take the same pic with my husbands iPhone4 zoom in and it is still crisp and clear, with my phone it is very pixelated.
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mi4kidzmom said:
I am coming from a Vibrant and although by the time I bought this phone the Vibrant was laggy, GPS was hit and miss, and allot of apps would force close, it still had a very good camera. I don't understand why this camera at 5mp takes such poor pics. I have a very good camera but sometimes I do forget it, it's too heavy, or I don't charge it so having a nice camera on the phone would be beneficial. Anyone know how to fix this problem?
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I saw another post around here discussing this, and in it someone said to change... from widescreen to 4:3? I believe..? I don't have the phone yet so can't look in the phone for ya. It's here in the forum tho.

I think the pictures are pretty good. Here are a few I took a couple of days ago:

Speaking of "pop"... Those reds look really nice and deep. Nice choice of images.

markdurant said:
I think the pictures are pretty good. Here are a few I took a couple of days ago:
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Strange. I started the other thread because mine were NOT so good. There are limited settings in the default camera, and I have set mine to the highest resolution and do not see any other adjustments in the setting menu.
At the wide mode, my files were only .6 - 1.2 mb (compressed I am sure). Yours are 3 mb - and much better quality - are you using the OEM camera?
I get MUCH better shots using the 360 Camera app - but not when using the stock camera app. If you are using the stock camera app - is there a setting I have missed?

I vaguely remember a post that said the camera is not set to 5MP by default. You have to set it to 5MP within the settings.

InvisibleHero said:
I vaguely remember a post that said the camera is not set to 5MP by default. You have to set it to 5MP within the settings.
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I set it to 5MP first thing - so-so pictures followed.

I use Camera 360. The uncompressed images look far better than when using the stock camera app.
It's unfortunate that the stock camera app doesn't allow manual compression settings. But that's why we have developers.

stock camera compresses the s out of the shots.
Go vigenette or camera 360 (all these were taken using either of the 2)

markdurant said:
I think the pictures are pretty good. Here are a few I took a couple of days ago:
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heh, I could have been in any of those pics. I was at Don's Bogam BBQ the other day (down the st from pic #3), playing with my new MT4G at dinner.

Best Camera App

There are quite a few out there, what do you think is the best camera and and what apps have you tried (if you think one is best, but haven't tried others, not very valid tbh!)
Myself, I would like one that takes pics in the same ratio as my phone screen. The Desire HD would do this. I know you actually lose resolution, but they look better on the phone...

Can't say I've tried them all, but Vignette is pretty good. It has a wide range of options to select from.

+1 for Vignette - I use it all the time
you can check out my review of it from the link in my signature

Had a quick play with Vignette, certainly seems very good. I love I can set the volume rocker to be the shutter release!
Is there a way to change aspect ratio of the photo's, so it takes full screen? If I select Full Screen of 16:9 as the frame, it does this, but crops the photo to only be about 600 by 300...

Another +1 user for Vignette here =D

Camera Magic is the one i use most. Just because it's fast and has both rapid fire mode and timer mode.

Camera 360 ultimate is kool also.
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yes 360 is really nice

I'm shopping for a new camera app right now, as the stock one for AOSP ROMs is horrible. Can't believe how crappy it is, especially after coming off a modded Sense ROM (Virtuous) where that camera kicked ass. Right now I'm torn between Vignetta and Camera Advance. It seems that most here like Vignette, but what about Camera Advance? On Amazon it only got 3/5 stars, but after playing with the "free" version it seems pretty good.
Thoughts? Suggestions?

Miui Camera or Sleek Camera. Miui is basically a prettier version of the stock camera and seems to work well on CM7 if you turn down the resolution.
Sleek Camera is a little bit buggy but it takes high quality photos on CM7 roms without any bloat or all the extras of Camera 360 and others. I highly recommend this app as a partial fix for CM7 users.
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dustrho said:
I'm shopping for a new camera app right now, as the stock one for AOSP ROMs is horrible. Can't believe how crappy it is, especially after coming off a modded Sense ROM (Virtuous) where that camera kicked ass. Right now I'm torn between Vignetta and Camera Advance. It seems that most here like Vignette, but what about Camera Advance? On Amazon it only got 3/5 stars, but after playing with the "free" version it seems pretty good.
Thoughts? Suggestions?
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Camera Advance Pro is very good so far in my testing but still suffers from the same problems as the stock CM7 camera.
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+1 Vinette
It's good. +1 for Vinette, though little bit slow.

+1 Vignette is pretty good xD

I think Pro HD Camera is the best.many settings available after take a photo

I just want an app that controls shutter speed, but pretty sure that can't happen.

tommyboy2034 said:
I just want an app that controls shutter speed, but pretty sure that can't happen.
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Precisely what I am wishing for too

+1 for camera360.

What's wrong with the original camera? 0_o

cL0uD` said:
What's wrong with the original camera? 0_o
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Well the Milestone 2 camera is pretty bad, camera 360 allowed me to take some great pics. My friend who has a SGS didn't notice any difference with 360 compared to his stock app.
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Little Photo has some nice effects although I wouldn't say its a camera replacement app. Coming from the iPhone which has so many wonderful camera apps, I must say android does seem a little behind. I wonder why it doesn't have the same broad range of apps?

[REQUEST] Camera Quality/MOD Comparison

I hope somone can compare the camera quality of both the modded stock and the 2.2.1 freeX10 app.
I would have done it myself but i reaply not that good, it seems that i have really shaky hands.
Also, if somone can clarify if the FreeX10 camera app and for example MIUI camera app in wolfbreak's CM rom ( which is based on freeX10 as far as i know ) give the same quality ?
Any opinions are welcomed

I was about to post this in the appropriate thread but since your asking I actually ran a few tests myself today....to my surprise the free x10 beta 4 camera app came out noticeably better. Something im gonna ask 28spawn to look into. I thought for sure his mod would be better, but it absolutely wasn't. Gonna run more tests again tomorrow, but I think I already know what one will win.
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I took a look on what you posted there, glad that you did.
For me i was looking on photos taken with both the MIUI and the stock mod but really couldn't decide which are better -.-'
Also, did you notice the shutter speed or thats placebo ?
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mezo9090 said:
I took a look on what you posted there, glad that you did.
For me i was looking on photos taken with both the MIUI and the stock mod but really couldn't decide which are better -.-'
Also, did you notice the shutter speed or thats placebo ?
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What i strongly noticed between the 2 camera apps was the free x10 focused better on the surrounding picture...where in comparission to the stock camera mod which shows signs of trouble focusing.
I can upload pictures for you....the freex10 camera also brings out more natural light when taken under low light....with the stock mod i kept getting a slight pink tinge.
The difference between the pictures is noticeable.
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"Surrounding picture" - do you mean background on the picture or landscape(natute etc)?
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kultus said:
"Surrounding picture" - do you mean background on the picture or landscape(natute etc)?
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What I meant was the entire picture in whole. The free x10 camera app focused better on everything within the entire picture....where as the stock camera mod showed signs of trouble. I did tests in low light (in my house) and tests outside in daylight. Out of about 15 comparisons the stock camera mod came out better twice....but only focused better....those two times the free x10 camera app still displayed better color (more natural).
Now I just made another discovery...i flashed my phone with seus tonight....and I used the default se camera on my phone (.435 firmware) against my wifes x10 using v8 of the stock modded camera (also .435) and the se default came out better 3 of the 4 tests. The one pic where the modded camera focused better the default se camera app still produced better color.
Before .435 firmware came out the mod was clearly better...but now in sticking to the default se camera as this mod isn't producing better results with the .435 firmware.
When I compare all camera apps (se stock .435, .435 modded app, vignette paid, free x10 beta 4) the free x10 beta 4 is the winner hands down of all of them. I was shocked with the images it produces.
@28spawn: if you happen to read this don't take offence please...i still appreciate your work. But I've ran enough tests the last few days to clearly see which camera apps produce the best results.
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intersting...so you are saying .435 mod is worse than stock .435??? Im fan of spawn but now Im going back to stock and make some photos...

kultus said:
intersting...so you are saying .435 mod is worse than stock .435??? Im fan of spawn but now Im going back to stock and make some photos...
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Im a fan to....but since the .435 firmware I was skeptical with the mod. That's why the last few days I have been going crazy comparing camera apps. I think 28spawn can fix this, but he needs to look closer at what's going on in .435 firmware.
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Here's a comparison I did down in my gamesroom in my basement. Notice the color that comes from the modded camera....its awful. Both cameras were on the exact same settings..ev, white balance, metering, etc etc.

first THX for the pictures, second for the comparison its better to compare pictures in full resolution and with good light conditions...the yellow tint can be removed by software, but im always interested in overal detail and good focus instead of colours that can by adjust in e.g. photoshop

kultus said:
first THX for the pictures, second for the comparison its better to compare pictures in full resolution and with good light conditions...the yellow tint can be removed by software, but im always interested in overal detail and good focus instead of colours that can by adjust in e.g. photoshop
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I compare pictures in good light and low light....those pictures were obviously low light...but I don't want to have to mess around with a photo editing program all the time just to get a better picture you know? And im sure most people would agree. I do compare at full resolutions...and also I zoom in on certain areas and compare that as well. The photos I posted were just to show the bad color im getting from the modded app....almost a sepia effect lol. Anyways, tomorrow (today) since I haven't been to bed yet lol I will be comparing these two apps (mod vs se stock) in good lighting conditions.
Did you compare any yet?
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OK I have no problem to run all photos throught software even automatic contrast/levels make a good job and its fast and can be done automatically (Xnview) anyways both of us prefer different photos properties as I said for me is sharpness and detail the most important

So the stock camera app + the lines in the build.prop for better HD videos is the best solution for 2.1?
I'll go back to the stock app later, but can't make much tests...
@ Mr Patch:
Btw, are you bluechip on youtube with the white and black X10 and the tutorials?
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@ Mr. Patchy Patch: So 1st pic of the gameroom is unmodded stock 2.1 and 2nd is modded v8? Mind posting a comparison shot with the Free x10 beta 4 cam you said was best?
Also, are you using multi-auto focus or infinity focus with the 2.1 cam(s)? If not, you'll notice much better background detail using one of those over single auto focus.
*Edit- I am still convinced that video and focus have improved in the modded camcorder regardless of the build.prop additions. I take more vids than pics, so sticking w/ v8 for now...

AyDee said:
@ Mr. Patchy Patch: So 1st pic of the gameroom is unmodded stock 2.1 and 2nd is modded v8? Mind posting a comparison shot with the Free x10 beta 4 cam you said was best?
Also, are you using multi-auto focus or infinity focus with the 2.1 cam(s)? If not, you'll notice much better background detail using one of those over single auto focus.
*Edit- I am still convinced that video and focus have improved in the modded camcorder regardless of the build.prop additions. I take more vids than pics, so sticking w/ v8 for now...
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v8 modded apk is much much better, imho. Look at my post here to see the comparison. I took those photos with touch capture mode, because that is the mode I use the most. Most of the times, I do not care about the background, I just want to focus on one item. Stock camera app just can't focus! But with v8 mod, it looks really good.

Flo95 said:
So the stock camera app + the lines in the build.prop for better HD videos is the best solution for 2.1?
I'll go back to the stock app later, but can't make much tests...
@ Mr Patch:
Btw, are you bluechip on youtube with the white and black X10 and the tutorials?
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No im not bluechip...my user name on youtube is the same as here.
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AyDee said:
@ Mr. Patchy Patch: So 1st pic of the gameroom is unmodded stock 2.1 and 2nd is modded v8? Mind posting a comparison shot with the Free x10 beta 4 cam you said was best?
Also, are you using multi-auto focus or infinity focus with the 2.1 cam(s)? If not, you'll notice much better background detail using one of those over single auto focus.
*Edit- I am still convinced that video and focus have improved in the modded camcorder regardless of the build.prop additions. I take more vids than pics, so sticking w/ v8 for now...
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I was just using single auto focus for both. Ill give multi auto focus a try.
Im gonna take some more tests in a bit with a nice bright sky outside.
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Here's a couple more comparisons between V8 mod and stock .435.
There is no way you that the mod is taking better pictures.
by the way for both of these I used multi auto focus on both phones like someone suggested to me.
Im gonna go back to V7 just for the hell of it...I know its supposed to be the same, but Im gonna check it out anyways and see if there is any difference.

I would also be delighted to see more results, i have not yet tried 28Spawn Mod, but loved the idea of it - so i have d/l it and am just trying to find time (still trying to find a preferred ROM!!)
I must say - overall i was totally disappointed with x10's camera - when i decided to take the x10i I had no experience with any smartphones, nor had i read any forums (noobisms) but i chose x10i over htcHD - imagin my dissapointment when i found out the camera had a light - instead of a flash - and seemed to take worse pictures that my wife's htc desire (5.1 camera) see here

[Q] Better camera app?

Been playing around with the camera since yesterday and I have to say I'm mildly disappointed. My Samsung Vibrant shot excellent photos for a cell phone camera (my daily driver is a Canon 5DMKII).
Looking at the specs and the size of the sensor this should be a dead ringer for top camera, but the dynamic range seems to be worse than the Vibrant and compression more heavy.
Are there good camera app alternatives that can use the Optimus/G2x hardware?

There is...
I've been using Vignette with my G2, and now that I have a G2X, this app comes in handy even more... besides taking really good quality shots... you can set the volume button as your shutter button. Voila: you got a physical camera button on your G2X.

DataJunkie said:
Been playing around with the camera since yesterday and I have to say I'm mildly disappointed. My Samsung Vibrant shot excellent photos for a cell phone camera (my daily driver is a Canon 5DMKII).
Looking at the specs and the size of the sensor this should be a dead ringer for top camera, but the dynamic range seems to be worse than the Vibrant and compression more heavy.
Are there good camera app alternatives that can use the Optimus/G2x hardware?
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This is the MIUI Camera app. It's a full screen camera app. Works better than default app. Download it and change the extension to .apk and install it via package installer or adb.

Camera 360 is a wonderful camera app
Makes ur camera work amazing wonders
Worth buying
But there are ways
I purchased mine abdbyave no regrets
very hi def and even made my mt4g camera look amazing
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Try lgCamera from the market, there's a free version too. It's made for LG phones, so hopefully it will work well.
It adds support for autofocus in video mode! I hope that feature works for the G2x

xREVOx said:
This is the MIUI Camera app. It's a full screen camera app. Works better than default app. Download it and change the extension to .apk and install it via package installer or adb.
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This is a great app. Thank you so much for the post. I recommend this for all G2x users!

i personally would not use MIUI as HD 720P seems not to work
BUT on the plus side it is made by XDA-Developers
they always make good stuff and are the leaders in innovations for the smart-phone market
(shameless plug maybe I'll get a cookie for it )
i don't see how this app would do anything to improve image quality on the G2X
as the app was generally made to replace the clunky and overblown GUI software that came with the Galaxy S / Vibrant,
so how will that improve the image quality on the G2X
as DataJunkie wants, he did not ask for a better GUI but better quality pictures
maybe i miss-understand
anyway the app can be found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996867
and a review of the app here
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/install-miui-custom-camera-app-on-samsung-galaxy-s-vibrant/
Just my 2 cents,
i realize i did not try or test this app on the G2X,
so my 2 cents maybe worthless
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I use camera 360 ultimate, i love that app, is awesome, it has hdr mode and a few other modes, you should try it.
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Strange I used to switch between camera 360 and vignette on my MT4G but now when I try those apps on this phone it seems really anyone else notice this?
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The miui app just force closes for me
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These are all really good suggestions, thanks guys.
I think I'm going to do a test with 3 different camera apps and lock down the phone on a tripod to compare. I'm interested in knowing how much the camera is held back by software and how much it can be improved upon.
Now all I want is a cameraphone that can shoot RAW.

Where can I get camera 360? I can't find it in the market?
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I know, it's weird, you have to type it as "camera360" or else it won't show up.

Okay i see it now, thanks
G2X

DataJunkie said:
Been playing around with the camera since yesterday and I have to say I'm mildly disappointed. My Samsung Vibrant shot excellent photos for a cell phone camera (my daily driver is a Canon 5DMKII).
Looking at the specs and the size of the sensor this should be a dead ringer for top camera, but the dynamic range seems to be worse than the Vibrant and compression more heavy.
Are there good camera app alternatives that can use the Optimus/G2x hardware?
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I was disappointed with the Camera app on my MT4G and went with Camera 360 due to extensive compression (at leat 2 to 1) on stock app.
I think this one is much better, and it makes large files per picture which indicates it does not compress that much. Have you checked out all the settings?

The flash goes off too soon with Camera 360, just tried it out.

DataJunkie said:
These are all really good suggestions, thanks guys.
I think I'm going to do a test with 3 different camera apps and lock down the phone on a tripod to compare. I'm interested in knowing how much the camera is held back by software and how much it can be improved upon.
Now all I want is a cameraphone that can shoot RAW.
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did you ever find out the result?

I like Camera Zoom FX the best then Vignette. Both of these have hardware hotkeys. Camera Zoom FX has stable shot mode that Vignette doesn't have. Camera360 Ultimate is ok for me. Stock camera app seems to have brightest flash and very noticeable.

Does anybody have a .apk of the MIUI app? I'm having a hard time with the .zip :/
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msage said:
Does anybody have a .apk of the MIUI app? I'm having a hard time with the .zip :/
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http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18421884/Android Apps/MiuiCamera.apk

Camera app

As we all know the stock camera isn't the best. Anyone have good alternatives they use to take quality pictures?
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Camera Zoom FX, the one and only.

cheetablaze said:
Camera Zoom FX, the one and only.
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lol, i saw cheetablaze and i knew what the post was going to be
but i concur, camera zoom fx is great.

+1 for Camera Zoom FX

Bought czfx it's pretty nice
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I still get blurrry images when up close using flash, idk im disappointed so far with this phone, i loved my og atrix. the camera to the sd card problems may make me return it.

what kind of camera to sd card?
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sorry if that confused haha i meant from the camera problems to the sd card problems. as in 2 separate issues. Im returning my atrix 2 today too many issues that I dont see being updated anytime soon.

I am disappointed with Camera Zoom FX and am bummed that I let it get past the 15 minute refund window. Though, I suppose for $5 it is still better than the stock.
I REALLY liked the camera features that were on my Captivate - you can tap on a spot on the screen for lighting and focus, not relying on the image being exposed based on the center of the screen.

I like Camera Advance and Camera360 Ultimate.

Camera zoom fx. For sure
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VentureForth said:
I REALLY liked the camera features that were on my Captivate - you can tap on a spot on the screen for lighting and focus, not relying on the image being exposed based on the center of the screen.
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You have to press and drag the focus square in the middle for the Atrix2. I have no idea why motorola won't do it like everyone else with tap-area-to-focus

I have Camera Zoom FX, and I have to say that I prefer the stock camera app. I think that the stock camera app's UI is nice, the photos are good, it has a fair amount of different settings, and although it's not tap-to-focus it's drag-to-focus, which at first is annoying but now I prefer it as it lets you move the square more accurately.
I had the A4G before my A2, and I think that the A2's camera is at least as good as the A4G's camera, except for the flash (the A4G had an extremely powerful flash).

I tried the Camera Zoom Fx and the layout is much better than the stock but picture quality is a whole different story.
I took 2 sets of pictures (one with CZ fx and stock). In both sets, the resolution was NOTICEABLY clearer in the stock camera app. Totally unexpected for me because I assumed CZ Fx would be better. For instance a car licence plate was easily readable upon magnification with the stock app but almost unreadable with CZ FX.
Both apps were set to 8mp, auto focus.
Camera zoom FX pic's EXIF: F/2.8 5mm 1/274s ISO-100
Stock camera app pic's EXIF: F/2.8 5mm 1/257s ISO-65535
I will be sticking with the stock. Stock seems to optimize settings better.

HDR App
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...1097948570137.16999.1269314047&type=3&theater
Camera Zoom FX
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...1097948570137.16999.1269314047&type=3&theater
I love camera zoom fx. It can be testing at times, but for the most part, a great app. The HDR app(forgot the name - reformatted my phone) is good too.
Not sure if pictures will work.

camera fx is now on sale for just $0.49

Yea i just picked that up cant beat the price
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frycook15 said:
Yea i just picked that up cant beat the price
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You guys should also try ICS Camera+ it's basically a port of the Camera from the Galaxy Nexus, it works great. Picture Quality is great as well...

What about vignette? I think it's great for more artistic takes
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artsol said:
What about vignette? I think it's great for more artistic takes
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I've tried Vignette as well as Camera Zoom fx - both are good for effects. Since the 2.3.6 update, stock camera works fine for me. I'm not big on effects. I just need a nice, focused, crisp photo and stock does that for me now.
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