Kernel Flashing Questions - Verizon Droid Charge

Ok, sorry for the newb questions but this is the first time i am going to do something to any smartphone so there's somethings I don't understand.
1. Will I loose all of my data on my phone? I understand with flashing a new ROM i would but flashing a different kernel is different right? Also, what's the difference between a ROM and a kernel?
1b. If I will loose my data, is there anyway to back up some of that app data without being rooted? I know that once I am rooted I can use Titanium Backup.
2. Would you recommend using Odin to flash the Charge or something else? All of the instructions in the dev section say to use Odin but I've also seen some people say that you should use Heimdall and idk what that is. If you think I should use Odin, what version should i use?
3. Which kernel are you using and which one would you recommend.
4. If something goes wrong, you guys got my back right? lol
Thank you very much

1. No data loss.
2. Kernel is what the rom uses to operate in a sense. The kernel is what drives the phone, rom is what dresses it up.
3. I flash my kernels via cwm... but I use Odin for a lot as well. I use version 1.3 on my laptop and 1.7 on my gf's. Both do the same thing.
4. If you have problems people can help. Just read a lot before committing.

thanks for the reply.
actually, reading more into it, i think I want to flash the altered beast rom. with that there would be data loss right?

streetlightman said:
thanks for the reply.
actually, reading more into it, i think I want to flash the altered beast rom. with that there would be data loss right?
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pretty sure when I flashed that it did wipe data.

I believe it doesn't touch data. It only has a system file no data or datadata
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thanks for the replies. so basically, all i have to do is hook up to Odin and flash it and I'm done? I don't have to do a manual data wipe before I flash it correct?
I'm running stock non-rooted ED2 right now if that matters.

papi92 said:
I believe it doesn't touch data. It only has a system file no data or datadata
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You may be right, I lost data once in the first couple days, but don't remember what I flashed anymore.

didn't do a data wipe for me. still have angry birds data
thanks for all your help

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[Q] Can someone check my rom-flashing plan, just to make sure that I don't brick?

Hey guys, I've been reading XDA for about a month now, and I think I'm ready to flash CM7. I've already rooted with superoneclick, but I don't have the money now to get a new phone if I brick, so I was hoping someone could just check my plan to make sure that I'm good to go? I've read the tutorials, but I want to be positive that I'm ok. I think that if I generate a list [without looking at the tutorial], rather than just copying theirs, I'll be sure that I understand the steps 100%.
Procedure:
-Root the phone (done)
-install nvflash on computer, and then clockworkmod to phone
-backup the NAND with clockworkmod (is that like the wii, where the NAND is specific to the device itself?)
-move the NAND to the computer for safe keeping
-install titanium backup > backup all apps > move to computer for safety
-flash rom from SD card
I've flashed a few roms onto an android tablet before, but I didn't backup the NAND when I did...
Will give "thanks" to each reply
You pretty much have it down the main thing to remember is to nvflash BC if not you will not be able to get into recovery. Also before flashing the rom you have to wipe data/cache/and dalvic cache. Let me know if this makes sense I'm at work so I don't really have time to go into detail lol
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dnguyen1988 said:
You pretty much have it down the main thing to remember is to nvflash BC if not you will not be able to get into recovery. Also before flashing the rom you have to wipe data/cache/and dalvic cache. Let me know if this makes sense I'm at work so I don't really have time to go into detail lol
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Ah, yeah, I forgot about the clear cache bit- I remember doing that when I flashed the tablet. Thanks a bunch man, I just finished, and it worked great!
I'm glad everything worked out lemme know if there's anything else u need
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also if u want to just install a kernel after the rom is installed just wipe cache then dalvik then install kernel....no need to wipe data
Also, depending on the rom, you also may need to flash gapps. With Faux or CM, you will. I believe with Bionix and Eagleblood it is included (someone correct me if I am wrong).
After flashing, it is always best practice to run a fix permissions in clockworkmod.
sryan1983 said:
Also, depending on the rom, you also may need to flash gapps. With Faux or CM, you will. I believe with Bionix and Eagleblood it is included (someone correct me if I am wrong).
After flashing, it is always best practice to run a fix permissions in clockworkmod.
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Ah, yeah, I figured that one out. I couldn't figure out where the market was! And then I read...
What's the fix permissions thing? Is that the option in the CM settings that said something like "don't turn this on and then report bugs, because it'll break some apps" ?
Fix permissions is in the advanced menu in cwm recovery.
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Fix permissions is in the advanced menu in cwm recovery.
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yup, i usually do this after installing the rom, kernel and gapps just for good measure
I'm a newb at this, and I've been looking around. Your steps are really basic and atually the simplest, I will actually be printing out that plan so I don't get confused with all of the confusing terms that I've seen floating around that I am not used to! Haha
squish099 said:
Fix permissions is in the advanced menu in cwm recovery.
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Got it, thanks!
Mikeglongo said:
I'm a newb at this, and I've been looking around. Your steps are really basic and atually the simplest, I will actually be printing out that plan so I don't get confused with all of the confusing terms that I've seen floating around that I am not used to! Haha
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Sweet man, glad it helped
Don't forget to clear the cache before you flash

[Guide] Best Way To Flash A Rom Without Having Problems

The best and easiest way to flash a rom without having any bugs or flaws,etc.
follow this to a 'tee' and you will have no problems, guarantee you.
Instructions:
1. Download .rar from link and extract it
http://www.multiupload.com/FO6TA6OBAH
2. open odin
3. put pda into the pda, phone into phone (their all in the respective folders)
4. let it finish wiping your phone and everything
5. once your phone boots, back up everything on your internal sd
6. go into settings and do a factory reset then let the phone reboot
7. put the rom you want to flash onto your sd card
8. turn off the phone and go into download mode (both volume buttons then plug in your usb cord.) flash gtg's community kernel. (in the root folder, put that .tar into the pda section) let it finish converting the partions.
9. once it finishes and boots up do this:
turn off phone, then:
using three button method. (volume up, volume down, power button. once you see samsung label release power button and keep holding volume buttons til you see your touch buttons light up, thats the way i figured out when to release them)
10. once the red screen appears, do: wipe data/factory reset, wipe dalvik cache
11. install zip from sd card, choose the rom that you placed onto your sd card
good job. works for me!
Which version of flashing stock does this use? Gtg unbrick?
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Haha, the best way is NEVER using ODIN. Heimdall is much much better.
And why would you return to stock before every flash?
AJerman said:
Haha, the best way is NEVER using ODIN. Heimdall is much much better.
And why would you return to stock before every flash?
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A clean slate. I use to do this all the time with my Captivate. Never had any problems installing any rom. Still do it now with the Infuse, and no problems installing any rom or Hellraiser Hybrid rom.
bigfau said:
A clean slate. I use to do this all the time with my Captivate. Never had any problems installing any rom. Still do it now with the Infuse, and no problems installing any rom or Hellraiser Hybrid rom.
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Never did it with the Captivate, never do it with the Infuse, never had any problems. You have a clean slate every time you flash a ROM as long as you wipe all the data and cache partitions. The system partitions are already overwritten with the flash itself. Basically going back to stock is just doing the same thing twice. Unless you are having some big problems and want to drop back to all stock files to see if you can fix a problem, it's generally unnecessary and just a waste of time. I mean, it doesn't hurt if you want to, it's just redundant.
All you gotta do is flash your ROM from Heimdall or CWM, wipe your data and cache partitions, boot up and you're done. As clean and fresh of a slate as it gets.
AJerman said:
Never did it with the Captivate, never do it with the Infuse, never had any problems. You have a clean slate every time you flash a ROM as long as you wipe all the data and cache partitions. The system partitions are already overwritten with the flash itself. Basically going back to stock is just doing the same thing twice. Unless you are having some big problems and want to drop back to all stock files to see if you can fix a problem, it's generally unnecessary and just a waste of time. I mean, it doesn't hurt if you want to, it's just redundant.
All you gotta do is flash your ROM from Heimdall or CWM, wipe your data and cache partitions, boot up and you're done. As clean and fresh of a slate as it gets.
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yeah i've always had a question about this... would you mind answering?
some instructions say to wipe data factory reset wipe cache before installing custom ROM,
some say after install wipe data factory and all that...
any difference? same? thanks!
jhong91 said:
yeah i've always had a question about this... would you mind answering?
some instructions say to wipe data factory reset wipe cache before installing custom ROM,
some say after install wipe data factory and all that...
any difference? same? thanks!
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I was once watching a youtube video on how to flash and he said something very simple, "wipe, fix, delete, get rid of, whatever. Old school rom flashing: make sure that you knock out everything so that you start on a fresh slate." Jordan is definitely right and knows much more than I. But I agree with AJerman that says its redundant. Just my two cents.
Jordan would you recommend using this method if you just got and rooted an infuse?
(have a warranty replacement on the way )
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Using this method coming from Darky in an attempt to flash the FusionXII ROM, i recieved the message "installation aborted" after clockwork mod started and then ended the flash of the file. any advice? i cleared both data and dalvik in that order.
- Thanks
Odin back to Froyo, then Odin one of the gingerbread leaks, Odin entropys kernel, turn phone off and get into cwm and flash Fusion. Make sure to wipe data as well.
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Bump - This should be a sticky
is there another link for it
GoSooners345 said:
is there another link for it
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Yes please ...
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Well said Jordan...glad I'm not the only one with that opinion....
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Nice guide, it should definitely alleviate lots of the questions around. I'd reccomend maybe flashing a rom with the gb loaders somewhere near the end so that theres no more rainbow issues.
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can anyone please upload the package form op
should probably mention that this guide isn't for rogers users
threi_ said:
should probably mention that this guide isn't for rogers users
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oh. Is there a guide for rogers I am looking for one
dlzp said:
oh. Is there a guide for rogers I am looking for one
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Yeah people that can't read to save their lives.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1326143
[Guide] [UXKG3] Complete Stock (FOR ROGERS USERS ONLY)
Do thank me.. That was hard work.
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update phone first before custom ROM

ok, so i've read what i think i need to root and install a custom ROM (i think i want to try eagles blood 2.8 first http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1124522)
just got my G2x on Monday and it has GB 2.3.3 but i have not checked if it has an update and not sure i want to update it first, but that is my question.
should i do an update first before i do anything else or does it even matter? i mean i will root, then do a backup, then install the ROM, right? so it shouldnt matter if the phone is the latest and greatest from LG or T-Mobile as i will be overwriting it anyway...at least that is how i think it works
also i have seen where people are saying to wipe everything (or at least a few folders), how is that done? just delete what is in the folders or is there a tool to wipe said data?
No OTA updates are available, but is unnecessary anyway. Also, no need to root if you want to flash these roms as they already have root access. Flash clockworkmod (search for the thread on that) then flash the rom you want. All the instructions are there.
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thanks, i didnt even want to try the update, but since you said there isnt one, i tried and sure enough, i have the latest already
OTA=over the air? i've seen that one a few times, some new acronyms here i need to learn
this is what i was going to do first
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1255214
1st Root your phone. Then Flash cwm thru nv flash. This is the only way if you want to manually boot into recovery
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chrisram88 said:
1st Root your phone. Then Flash cwm thru nv flash. This is the only way if you want to manually boot into recovery
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No need to root before nvflashing cwm.
Yes, OTA is "over the air". And just so you know, make sure you follow those nvflash steps EXACTLY as written. What you are choosing to flash, however, is the completely stock (although rooted) version of android 2.3.3 that you already have on your phone. This is fine, but after you get cwm you can flash any custom rom you find within the development section as well. I recommend at least choosing cm7 because the stock rom sucks.
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e4e5nf3nc6 said:
No need to root before nvflashing cwm.
Yes, OTA is "over the air". And just so you know, make sure you follow those nvflash steps EXACTLY as written. What you are choosing to flash, however, is the completely stock (although rooted) version of android 2.3.3 that you already have on your phone. This is fine, but after you get cwm you can flash any custom rom you find within the development section as well. I recommend at least choosing cm7 because the stock rom sucks.
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gotcha, so that thread is the one i need to follow?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847
This one. It's actually linked as the first step in your thread. This is the important one. Read it over a couple times first, and maybe watch some videos too.
Everything after that step in your thread is basically how to flash a custom rom. They are just choosing a rooted version of stock as their example.
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root first if you want to backup any of the apps on the phone.
i rooted , clockworked , backed up the phone then copied the int and ext sd roms to my pc. installed titanium and backed up all the apps in the stock rom i thought i might want to keep. ( mostly the nova demo and need for speed) . copy your rom contents over so if you mistakenly format your sd card you can still return the phone to stock. ( don't ask i did it ) tryed cm7 stable. liked it but had sleep of death issues. returned the phone to stock . messed with the stock apps and root explorer backed everything up again. and now im ruing weapon r and love it. no stutter and smooth as a hot knife going thru butter and no sleep of death! and USB works every time. even love the loader he used.
ok followed the steps here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060715
then here (which is actually referenced first in the above thread)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847
and then here (which is done after you do the stuff in the above thread)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1255214
i put eagles blood 2.8 on it and it seems to be doing ok.
couple of things, dont know if this is a theme issue, but it no longer says 4G, it has a letter H instead
also i moved the notification bar to the bottom but cant remember where to change that back to the top
that looks good. don't for get to copy off the internal and external sd chips and keep that data safe. when you made your backup in clockwork it stored it on the internal chip. titanium by default i be leave uses the external. if any thing goes wrong, as long as you have access to those backups and can boot to clockwork you can get your phone working.
dodgefan67 said:
ok followed the steps here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060715
then here (which is actually referenced first in the above thread)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847
and then here (which is done after you do the stuff in the above thread)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1255214
i put eagles blood 2.8 on it and it seems to be doing ok.
couple of things, dont know if this is a theme issue, but it no longer says 4G, it has a letter H instead
also i moved the notification bar to the bottom but cant remember where to change that back to the top
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The h is the same as 4g. There are mods to change those icons that can be found on xda. As far as the status bar, I think that setting is located somewhere in the tablet tweaks menu.
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e4e5nf3nc6 said:
The h is the same as 4g. There are mods to change those icons that can be found on xda. As far as the status bar, I think that setting is located somewhere in the tablet tweaks menu.
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yes in the tablet tweaks, thanks
but now i have a bigger problem. i dont seem to have any network access now, 4g, 3g, edge, nothing. i can make calls and send texts, but no data. should i start a new thread?
dodgefan67 said:
yes in the tablet tweaks, thanks
but now i have a bigger problem. i dont seem to have any network access now, 4g, 3g, edge, nothing. i can make calls and send texts, but no data. should i start a new thread?
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Occasionally on cm7 based roms data will drop out and u need to reboot to bring it back...if u haven't already, try a reboot.
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JuEv0splash said:
Occasionally on cm7 based roms data will drop out and u need to reboot to bring it back...if u haven't already, try a reboot.
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DOH! yup that was it, reboot brought it back. thanks!
so like i posted before it shows an H instead of 4G so i'm assuming that stands for HSPA?
Yeah that's it. How are you liking the rom? Bear in mind that now you have root access you can do all sorts of customizations. You can flash kernels that allow for overclocking or underclocking, use titanium backup (recommended) to preserve all apps and app data, modify boot animations and status bar icons, basically anything you want. Enjoy!
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im liking it so far, and yeah i understand about root access, i've done linux admin and use debian at home, so im really liking this, its kind of like running debian now instead of ubuntu or mint, getting rid of all the junk that gets piled on top of the pure OS!
im sure i will try other ROMs as well and maybe other kernels. do those install the same way? using ROM Manager?
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im liking it so far, and yeah i understand about root access, i've done linux admin and use debian at home, so im really liking this, its kind of like running debian now instead of ubuntu or mint, getting rid of all the junk that gets piled on top of the pure OS!
im sure i will try other ROMs as well and maybe other kernels. do those install the same way? using ROM Manager?
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Yea you flash it in recovery.
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now that yore rooted and have clockwork you can flash things safely
just remember to backup, and to wipe the davik cache its in advanced menu.
try weapon r and then add the update new clip to it , its smooth and no bugs so far fro me.

How does the rom flashing process work?

I flashed a custom rom + kernal on my kindle fire it went by really smoothly and was a simple process..
Is doing it on the skyrocket different? Can flashing a rom get you a hard brick?
Also I'm thinking about a rom to flash where I can turn off LTE ( not in my area a huge battery waste ), but it sais I need to flash a new modem or radio or something.. dufuq is that?
Thanks,.
Read the forum and your questions will be answered
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Read the forum and your questions will be answered
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I have and Im gonna try to do it tonight,I dont want to miss anything. Im just not the guy who has 450$ to go buy a new phone if my'n breaks
Any time you flash anything you risk a brick. It's uncommon, if you know what you're doing, but it happens. Almost Every ROM has specific instructions for flashing.
And make sure you do a nandroid backup first.
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And make sure you do a nandroid backup first.
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Im doing a clockwordrecovery back up as we speak, does that work?
Also, how do I flash a modem? lol
Juicy555 said:
Im doing a clockwordrecovery back up as we speak, does that work?
Also, how do I flash a modem? lol
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Yes, that's what a nandroid is.
Wipe cache, wipe dalvik.
Buddy, you need to stop what you're doing and read for a few days before flashing.
xcrazydx said:
Yes, that's what a nandroid is.
Wipe cache, wipe dalvik.
Buddy, you need to stop what you're doing and read for a few days before flashing.
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I just made sure I did everything exactly it said and am now running a flashed rom
Do you know how warm I feel inside to see someone that actually READS?
And to clarify on ROM flashing, what happens is your internal storage is partitioned I to several parts. When you flash, you write to those partitions. For example, when you flash a recovery, it writes an image to that partition, similar to burning an ISO onto a CD. Hope that makes stuff a little clearer... so yes, if you're not careful, you're going to screw yourself over by telling your processor to do something it doesn't understand. It's like if I suddenly told you to go make me a sandwich in Chinese. Unless you understand Chinese, you would freak out and get confused.
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Do you know how warm I feel inside to see someone that actually READS?
And to clarify on ROM flashing, what happens is your internal storage is partitioned I to several parts. When you flash, you write to those partitions. For example, when you flash a recovery, it writes an image to that partition, similar to burning an ISO onto a CD. Hope that makes stuff a little clearer... so yes, if you're not careful, you're going to screw yourself over by telling your processor to do something it doesn't understand. It's like if I suddenly told you to go make me a sandwich in Chinese. Unless you understand Chinese, you would freak out and get confused.
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And might possibly turn into a brick, don't forget that part.

Brickbug in Laymans terms

Hi guys, I recently downloaded the app from this XDA user that verifies if you're in danger of bricking your device.
Apparently I am, the app says 'this is a chip with KNOWN issues'. I don't really understand what causes the issue, if I'm actually in danger or I just shouldn't do XYZ. Would anyone with more knowledge please take the time to explain as best they can what the situation is?
I'm running AOKP with UCLE2, and it seems plenty of people are sticking with ICS roms so it doesn't seem to be that heavy a situation.
I'm pretty sure the brickbug is only caused from recoveries that use ICS kernels. Currently the skyrocket doesnt have any recovery available that has an ICS kernel so I'm pretty sure were in the green.
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I'm pretty sure the brickbug is only caused from recoveries that use ICS kernels. Currently the skyrocket doesnt have any recovery available that has an ICS kernel so I'm pretty sure were in the green.
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Thank you, from what I was reading it had to do with a method of erasing that corrupted the eMMc, but I honestly didn't understand anything more than that and from the thread here it basically said 'if you flash a ROM, it may be your last'.
There was a lot of technical talk that I didn't quite follow.
And I am aware this isn't Q/A forum, but a possible hard brick I thought deserved more light.
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Thank you, from what I was reading it had to do with a method of erasing that corrupted the eMMc, but I honestly didn't understand anything more than that and from the thread here it basically said 'if you flash a ROM, it may be your last'.
There was a lot of technical talk that I didn't quite follow.
And I am aware this isn't Q/A forum, but a possible hard brick I thought deserved more light.
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yes and no, but its not by flashing rom with cwm read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1621679
whosgotlag said:
Thank you, from what I was reading it had to do with a method of erasing that corrupted the eMMc, but I honestly didn't understand anything more than that and from the thread here it basically said 'if you flash a ROM, it may be your last'.
There was a lot of technical talk that I didn't quite follow.
And I am aware this isn't Q/A forum, but a possible hard brick I thought deserved more light.
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I might not be %100 on the money but I remember something with ics leaks and recoveries cause super bricks.
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It's not flashing a ROM that causes bricks. It's using the wipe functions with ics kernels. Aka, if you're on ics and you have one of the chips in question, and you perform wipe functions in cwm you have a good chance of bricking at some point. Maybe not next time, maybe not in the next 30 wipes, but it will most likely happen at some point according to what's been happening with other users of the chips.
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My understanding is that if you use a gingerbread based cwm (which is any of the cwm versions posted on XDA) to wipe that you "should" be safe. It's when you use Factory Data Reset while on ics using the gui that you risk getting the bug. (ie DO NOT go into Settings/Backup and Reset/Factory Data Reset).
EDIT: Also do not go into stock 3e recovery to wipe data after flashing the one-click leaks. I'm assuming that recovery was based on an ics kernel, but I could be wrong about that. But to be safe, DON'T!
This post explains that it is because the Skyrocket and t989 have separate recovery and kernel partitions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27140915&postcount=122
I'm not completely sure now as there seems to be two differing takes on the situation. I am on AOKPs latest R4INS linaro build, using the 5.8.somethingsomething recovery from here. I've been told it's a Gingerbread Recovery. But I don't know how to actually tell or what the difference is.
If the problem is ICS recovery then I should theoretically be fine. If the problem is ICS builds in general then I'm in danger. And if the problem is ICS kernel then I'm not sure if I'm in danger, I haven't specially flashed a new kernel, but I'm not sure if they are included with the ROM.
I'm sorry for these lines of questions. Still learning the technical aspect.
Its wiping with anything using an ics kernel so either from or recovery none of our recoveries use ics so that leads us to roms atm
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Is this issue expected to persist even once official ICS is released and specifically isolated to rooted devices, or should this be solved once we have the final build?
When I had my gs2 i777 and the bug first showed up it only affected users who flashed the leaked stock ics kernel. Those on custom kernels such as cm9 or aokp were not affected. Also page 7 of the gotbug app post (linked by the op in this thread) has all of the details posted by entropy512 the Dev who discovered the bug.
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whosgotlag said:
I'm not completely sure now as there seems to be two differing takes on the situation. I am on AOKPs latest R4INS linaro build, using the 5.8.somethingsomething recovery from here. I've been told it's a Gingerbread Recovery. But I don't know how to actually tell or what the difference is.
If the problem is ICS recovery then I should theoretically be fine. If the problem is ICS builds in general then I'm in danger. And if the problem is ICS kernel then I'm not sure if I'm in danger, I haven't specially flashed a new kernel, but I'm not sure if they are included with the ROM.
I'm sorry for these lines of questions. Still learning the technical aspect.
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If you are on an ics ROM, you would be on an ics kernel. Therefore you would have a chance of bricking if you wipe.
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xcrazydx said:
If you are on an ics ROM, you would be on an ics kernel. Therefore you would have a chance of bricking if you wipe.
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But doesn't recovery not use the same kernel as the ROM uses?
Well I'm on the leak but I'm not gonna take the chance and wipe anything. If I really needed to do a wipe or a factory reset I would just fire Odin up and flash back stock and then do a wipe. But from what I've read if I understand it right and correct me if I'm wrong it only happens when you wipe or reset using either cwm or GUI and select to format SD. If I understand it right as long as you don't format the SD when wiping or factory data reset you should be OK. So please someone if I've misunderstood please correct me... as I said if I need to wipe or reset I'll flash back to stock and do it.. your gonna lose your data either way so might as well not take the chance...
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garydv2002 said:
Well I'm on the leak but I'm not gonna take the chance and wipe anything. If I really needed to do a wipe or a factory reset I would just fire Odin up and flash back stock and then do a wipe. But from what I've read if I understand it right and correct me if I'm wrong it only happens when you wipe or reset using either cwm or GUI and select to format SD. If I understand it right as long as you don't format the SD when wiping or factory data reset you should be OK. So please someone if I've misunderstood please correct me... as I said if I need to wipe or reset I'll flash back to stock and do it.. your gonna lose your data either way so might as well not take the chance...
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as of now, all cwm recoveries on this i727 forum r based in gb, even if u flashed a rom based on the ics, cwm is never part of the rom as it is flashed seperatly, the only time that would happen is when u odin a stock firmware
garydv2002 said:
Well I'm on the leak but I'm not gonna take the chance and wipe anything. If I really needed to do a wipe or a factory reset I would just fire Odin up and flash back stock and then do a wipe. But from what I've read if I understand it right and correct me if I'm wrong it only happens when you wipe or reset using either cwm or GUI and select to format SD. If I understand it right as long as you don't format the SD when wiping or factory data reset you should be OK. So please someone if I've misunderstood please correct me... as I said if I need to wipe or reset I'll flash back to stock and do it.. your gonna lose your data either way so might as well not take the chance...
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Do not wipe anything on ics atm in GUI cwm is your friend
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skrambled said:
My understanding is that if you use a gingerbread based cwm (which is any of the cwm versions posted on XDA) to wipe that you "should" be safe. It's when you use Factory Data Reset while on ics using the gui that you risk getting the bug. (ie DO NOT go into Settings/Backup and Reset/Factory Data Reset).
EDIT: Also do not go into stock 3e recovery to wipe data after flashing the one-click leaks. I'm assuming that recovery was based on an ics kernel, but I could be wrong about that. But to be safe, DON'T!
This post explains that it is because the Skyrocket and t989 have separate recovery and kernel partitions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27140915&postcount=122
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This exactly. The stock recoveries are the main dangerous part. Flash off of it before you do anything. While we have the same problem with the chip, it seems we're not likely to encounter it if you don't use the format operations while on the ics kernels. The 4 current modded recoveries we have are all based on gingerbread. (well 3 are, and the fourth is believed to be unless he has his own leaks)
nrm5110 said:
Do not wipe anything on ics atm in GUI cwm is your friend
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The bottom line is all wiping (for sd/usb cards too) should be done with a gb cwm if you're using an ics based rom. Correct?
Sorry to beat a dead horse but the amount of information and disinformation out there is staggering...
Locoman_ said:
The bottom line is all wiping (for sd/usb cards too) should be done with a gb cwm if you're using an ics based rom. Correct?
Sorry to beat a dead horse but the amount of information and disinformation out there is staggering...
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Agreed. I've looked at MANY threads and everyone seems to have a different idea of what causes the brick and what steps to take to avoid it. I've read cwm wiping can cause the brick but here it says cwm is safe. Its hard to know what to think
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Mike on XDA said:
Agreed. I've looked at MANY threads and everyone seems to have a different idea of what causes the brick and what steps to take to avoid it. I've read cwm wiping can cause the brick but here it says cwm is safe. Its hard to know what to think
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My understanding is that when on an ICS based rom wiping with a GB based recovery IS ok. Wiping with an ICS based recovery is NOT ok. Using the ICS gui to wipe is NOT ok.
Would love to have this confirmed.

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