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Cannot dl mms w/ wifi

Why is it i cannot retrieve mms with wifi? I have to connect back to 4g before i can download a picture.
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This isn't really an issue as much as it is just how the data network works. MMS messages are sent over ATT's network, so if you have data turned off, the data being sent/received basically runs into a wall because your phone doesn't technically exist on the data network. When you're on wifi, you're using your local area network (or wherever you're accessing it) for internet access. When you have 4G turned on, you're using ATT's data network to transfer data. Make sense?

Yes wifi is for broawing the internet and using apps that stream. You can recieve mms while on wifi. Also while on the phone. Unless you have your data turned off. It does not use the wifi to send recieve messages or calls. But the wifi does not prevent them from cominf throuh

Yea.. well the thing is i can get the message.. but when i click to download it i must be on 4g
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And 4g still works when your on wifi. I know because im on wifi all the time and send recieve mms all the time. You had to have changed something mabye messed with apn settings. Thisis not.normal

The reason for that being the part your phone still gets is only an SMS that doesn't require data to send or receive. Essentially so regardless of having data on or off, the message is still sent through, but the actual data isn't being requested. To get the picture, or whatever it is your sending/receiving, data needs to be activated. That request is essentially automatic when data is on. (If you have auto receive on, of course.)
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silver03wrx said:
And 4g still works when your on wifi. I know because im on wifi all the time and send recieve mms all the time. You had to have changed something mabye messed with apn settings. Thisis not.normal
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I think what he's saying is that he can have data and wifi on at the same time, but when he disables data (or "4G"), he can't receive MMS messages. Assuming to save battery life?
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I guess lol. What you said is correct. But i think he.may be confused. You dont have to turn wifi off to recieve mms. Like i said something was changed.

silver03wrx said:
I guess lol. What you said is correct. But i think he.may be confused. You dont have to turn wifi off to recieve mms. Like i said something was changed.
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Well he just said he had to turn 4G on before receiving the message.
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I understand. 4g must be on to download the picture.. but i never keep wifi n 4g on at same time..
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I have this issue, mostly with group messages. The message comes with a download button and message expiration date. Dowload would fail. Wifi/4G on, so hpw do you explain this? The messages would then automatically download when it wants to.
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Open messages click menu then settings. Scroll down and put a check next to auto retrieve

silver03wrx said:
Open messages click menu then settings. Scroll down and put a check next to auto retrieve
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Already checked. Although, I just noticed that this is happening when I'm on my 3G MicroCell. I tested this by disconnecting the MicroCell to get onto the AT&T cell tower and the message downloaded.

vpkb said:
Although, I just noticed that this is happening when I'm on my 3G MicroCell. I tested this by disconnecting the MicroCell to get onto the AT&T cell tower and the message downloaded.
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That's probably your answer. When "it decides to" is probably when it manages to hop onto an ATT tower to receive everything like it's supposed to.

vpkb said:
I have this issue, mostly with group messages. The message comes with a download button and message expiration date. Dowload would fail. Wifi/4G on, so hpw do you explain this? The messages would then automatically download when it wants to.
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I receive the same "Download" option when my brother sends me an MMS from his iPhone. Once I click download, I then receive this statement:
One or more of the message components have been deleted by MMS Adaptation. Either the message was too large or the components were unsuitable for your terminal.
It's a regular photo taken from his iPhone which doesn't make sense. I also have tried it while 4G was active and while on the WiFi network at the house. Data packets are also enabled and the MMS is configured to auto-retrieve. Hopefully I'll have time to go to the AT&T store and see if they can fix the issue. It is consistent when he tries to send me a photo and it's not being sent from his phone as a group MMS. I can send him photos from the Skyrocket though and I can send myself a photo from my Skyrocket to my own number.

My friend whos on Verizon tells me the same thing, he has this download issues too. It must be an Android thibg since ive never had this issue with any of the iPhones, regardless if its on at&t tower or the MicroCell.
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Using JuiceDefender Extreme I have set Visual Voicemail to always use the data connection only and have had no problems since, perhaps something else can happen for mms? I haven't had any issue with MMS not being delivered when on WiFi but JuiceDefender takes care of that for me.

[Q]mms/sms problems

Title says it all...
Problems: duplicate incoming texts, forever/never downloading mms (when received with data off), and just yesterday I received a text that sent to me back in March...
As far as outgoing, other than having messages fail to send due to signal strength, I have no clue if I'm sending multiple texts or if all texts are being received. I haven't really done any testing. This problem is just really annoying and persistent.
Current Setup: Tweaked 2.2, FP1 kernel, ext4
I did a full wipe before flashing, the only thing that I can think of is that I restored mms/sms from TB. I have this problem once or twice in the past but then it always went away once I flashed a newer update or different ROM.
You guys think clearing data on the Messaging apk might help? There is also MMS Provisioning...?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I find that the double texts I get are problems from the other side (mostly t-mobile users). As for receiving mms with data off, you can only send/receive mms with data (no wifi).
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JihadSquad said:
I find that the double texts I get are problems from the other side (mostly t-mobile users). As for receiving mms with data off, you can only send/receive mms with data (no wifi).
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I know about data & mms (and larger sms texts), but I was hoping this wasn't thanks to VZW and instead something with my setup...
Sorry I should have clarified this a little better:
In the past, if I sent/received a mms, I would need to switch data on for it to actually download/upload. In other words, the message would just sit there until I switched data on, and then it would do it's thing. Usually, this would only take a few seconds. Now, when I try to send/receive I actually have to have data on before I send/receive, or else the message will just sit there downloading/uploading and never finish. At which point it seems to slow down my phone, until I just delete the unsent/not received message.
I hope that makes more sense.

You can go into an app like System Panel and kill Messaging to reset your "Downloading..." message. Be sure you turn data on before you relaunch the app.
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JihadSquad said:
I find that the double texts I get are problems from the other side (mostly t-mobile users). As for receiving mms with data off, you can only send/receive mms with data (no wifi).
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You've solve a mystery I've been unable to figure out for some time! I never realized mms didn't work over wifi. I could never figure out why I would sometimes get photos via txt, and sometimes not. Always thought it was stupid Verizon being...um...stupid. Why is that?
Thanks!

kvswim said:
You can go into an app like System Panel and kill Messaging to reset your "Downloading..." message. Be sure you turn data on before you relaunch the app.
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I tried the System Panel tip, and I also tried just force closing Messaging, but neither seemed to work. I eventually just re-flashed everything from scratch and my messaging issues are gone. Its weird, maybe it was just a coincidence or timing with VZW....?
Oh well, thanks for the help/responses guys.

[Q] MMS Not Working?

I've had my Nexus 5 for about two weeks now. I've just tried sending a Picture Message for the first time with this phone, but it keeps failing?
I'm on a Vodafone 4G contract, but I'm at home so I'm connected to my WiFi. I've tried downloading ChompSMS which is what I used to use on my previous phone, but it still failed. I've also tried 8SMS which resembles the original Android Messaging App, but no joy?
I've just tried disabling WiFi, and it managed to send the message?!
What's going on? Do I really need to disable WiFi every time I want to send MMS???

bigdanc123 said:
I've had my Nexus 5 for about two weeks now. I've just tried sending a Picture Message for the first time with this phone, but it keeps failing?
I'm on a Vodafone 4G contract, but I'm at home so I'm connected to my WiFi. I've tried downloading ChompSMS which is what I used to use on my previous phone, but it still failed. I've also tried 8SMS which resembles the original Android Messaging App, but no joy?
I've just tried disabling WiFi, and it managed to send the message?!
What's going on? Do I really need to disable WiFi every time I want to send MMS???
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you need network data connection to send mms, not wifi. mms go through your carrier, thats why they charge for it. if you could send mms over wifi, they couldnt charge you for it.

You shouldn't need to disable WiFi to send SMS. That's really strange.
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lauterm said:
You shouldn't need to disable WiFi to send SMS. That's really strange.
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mms not sms

simms22 said:
mms not sms
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I'm sure he typo'd. Either way, you shouldn't have to disable wifi to send MMS. Yes.. you need a data connection to the carrier, but that doesn't mean you should have to disable wifi to do it... I'm waiting for my N5 to show up and have been browsing around here in the mean time... If this is true, then it's definitely a bug as it hasn't affected any other android device I've had from android 2.0 through 4.3. I frequently send MMS while on wifi and it's smart enough to route it through mobile data in the background.

mikebeatrice said:
I'm sure he typo'd. Either way, you shouldn't have to disable wifi to send MMS. Yes.. you need a data connection to the carrier, but that doesn't mean you should have to disable wifi to do it... I'm waiting for my N5 to show up and have been browsing around here in the mean time... If this is true, then it's definitely a bug as it hasn't affected any other android device I've had from android 2.0 through 4.3. I frequently send MMS while on wifi and it's smart enough to route it through mobile data in the background.
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I've had loads of Android devices too, and this is the first time this has happened. When your phone turns up, please try it and let me know?

i am the one that is wrong here, it should send the mms even though wifi is connected. i tried earlier, and it didnt send(turned out that person changed their number). so i tried again, a different number, and it sent.

Nexus 5 does not auto recieve MMS

Hey!
Yesterday I bought a N5 and today I noticed my friends dont recieve my pictures if I do not turn on my Mobile Data. This isn't really bad..the worst thing is that if I do not have Mobile Data turned on I do not know I even got an MMS.
So I must get my data always on to even know somebody sent me a picture? If there was a way I could at least get a warning that MMS ciuldn't be downloaded because there is no networtk that would be great.
How is everyone else experiencing this?
Oh, and I have Android Lollipop

MMS (pic messages) is data dependent. Even if on WiFi, MMS will use data

Jojo5678 said:
Hey!
Yesterday I bought a N5 and today I noticed my friends dont recieve my pictures if I do not turn on my Mobile Data. This isn't really bad..the worst thing is that if I do not have Mobile Data turned on I do not know I even got an MMS.
So I must get my data always on to even know somebody sent me a picture? If there was a way I could at least get a warning that MMS ciuldn't be downloaded because there is no networtk that would be great.
How is everyone else experiencing this?
Oh, and I have Android Lollipop
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You HAVE to have data on to do anything MMS related. Unless you're using an instant message client like WhatsApp you REQUIRE to have data on.

Actually, in part MMS send and receive configuration is dependent on carrier configurations and not only device or ROM settings.
Somehow, I think data switching for MMS is okay when data is off and other times it is broken. Some kind of receiver or meta-info with the mms transmit.
Textra app on playstore used to have "temporarily activate mobile data for mms" in a troubleshooting section. I don't see it in the current new version for Lollipop, maybe soon though.
Some phones and ROMs and carriers will turn data on for mms and not tally against plan data usage limits, so data could otherwise be technically off so zero or very low data plans don't overage.

Is there a way to make the Nexus 5 auto turn on data whenever sending or receiving a mms?
I'm using go sms and there's a setting for that but it doesn't work

MMS Over Wifi

In an effort to squeeze a little extra battery life from my phone I setup a tasker profile to disable mobile data when on Wifi.
Unfortunately, that means I can't get MMS messages when on Wifi. I'm using hangouts, but don't think it's hangouts specific. Any one know if there's a way to make this work? Thanks.

I think you should keep mobile data on anyway, as Android prioritizes Wifi over data. So when connected to Wifi, data is simply disconnected, but not disabled. So sending MMS is still possible even while connected via wifi.

rand0m_insanity said:
I think you should keep mobile data on anyway, as Android prioritizes Wifi over data. So when connected to Wifi, data is simply disconnected, but not disabled. So sending MMS is still possible even while connected via wifi.
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Yeah, I don't disagree. The problem is for about 15 hours a week I'm in a place where I have abysmal cell coverage. When I'm there my battery goes to crap, I was hoping this would help with it.

Google voice hangout works fine over MMS

frigidazzi said:
Google voice hangout works fine over MMS
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The problem is you can't send receive MMS over Wifi, for some reason it has to use the cellular data.

rbrenart said:
The problem is you can't send receive MMS over Wifi, for some reason it has to use the cellular data.
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With Google voice you can. I do it all the time. Only use air plane mode with Wi-Fi at work and usually at home... But I'm assuming you aren't using Google voice.

frigidazzi said:
With Google voice you can. I do it all the time. Only use air plane mode with Wi-Fi at work and usually at home... But I'm assuming you aren't using Google voice.
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Ah, I see what you're saying... no, only using Google Voice for voicemail. I must admit, I never did really figure that product out completely.

Nextplus
I use next plus for WiFi text, gives you a separate phone number as well

It depends, I don't use hangouts I use stock sms and MMS sent to my number requires data from the provider, stored on their servers till the image expires, or log into my account to view the image
Are the people sending you these images use hangouts and are logged in?, assuming it will send via Google's services
With 5.1.1 there seems to be a bug with WiFi and data cross over, if I have both on, sometimes data stays on instead of wifi while the phone is sleeping at home, then it switches over when display is on,another reason why I don't leave it on.

It's not about images, it's about MMS for group text messages. And some use hangouts and some do not. Some use android, some use iphone.

rbrenart said:
It's not about images, it's about MMS for group text messages. And some use hangouts and some do not. Some use android, some use iphone.
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Hmm.. It should be fine, then.
I tested it with a friend who is on Android. We disabled our mobile data and we could send MMS group messages.
(From Hangouts to Hangouts, no SMS involved. I cannot text using it, anyway, being on iPhone).
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EvilKittyCupcake said:
Hmm.. It should be fine, then.
I tested it with a friend who is on Android. We disabled our mobile data and we could send MMS group messages.
(From Hangouts to Hangouts, no SMS involved. I cannot text using it, anyway, being on iPhone).
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I suggest any one who wants to try for themselves test then, because on my setup I would not get the MMS. It may have been due to emoticons or something else I'm not thinking of, but I clearly remember the separate SMS from my wife asking why I was ignoring everyone on the group text