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[Q] Transformer for students.

A bit of background: I will be attending UCLA as a computer science student in the fall. I will be bringing my desktop with me, and am trying to decide between a laptop/netbook or the Transformer.
Would the transformer work in conjunction with the desktop, or will I need a full laptop.
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You should consider what you want to use this device for before you decide. As a CS major, you will certainly be doing quite a bit of programming, and you might want to prefer to use a full linux environment for this, depends largely on the program you have at UCLA. What you can consider is to get this device and using the splashtop program access your desktop to do your programming. However, you will want to consider whether or not you want to utilize the local processing power of your device. It would be far simpler to use a laptop/netbook for those purposes, rather than trying to find solutions with the tablet+dock. In the end, if you find that you will be using the device docked most of the time for school, then you should probably consider just getting a laptop/netbook. If the convenience of the tablet and media consumption is something you'd prefer, then get the transformer.
tl;dr, I consider the transformer+dock a fun/entertainment device. For CS based schoolwork, you would most likely want a laptop/netbook.
unless you wanted to focus on tablet development in your coursework...but that's not for another 2 years...
Hope that helps.

It helped a lot. Thank you.
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Keep in mind that you can use the Transformer's bundled remote desktop app and/or a terminal app to control your PC, and run stuff that way - assuming you can connect to your desktop from wherever you are.
I do agree with omguss, if you don't plan on using the device mostly for entertainment, get a netbook/laptop.

Sorry if this is hijacking your thread (ill start a new thread if you want) but just wondering if there is a good note taking apps for android?
There are two uses I can see being needed for me.
First I would need something to annotate on pdf's and powerpoints. I remember seeing an app that looked pretty solid for this so it should be good.
Secondly I would need an app that I can be typing with the keyboard, and then when needed draw in equations, graphs, pictures, whatever. Not really sure if there is something good for this.

As a programmer, I would suggest getting a full laptop for somebody majoring in CS. As much as I love the transformer, you cannot compile code on it. At least in my searching I have not found a single IDE meant to be run on Android (Lot's target Android, but none run on Android). More than likely, there will be several times that you want to do work away from your room. On the transformer, the only real way to do this will be remote desktop software. It's up to you whether you think the remote desktop software will be sufficient for this, but one other thing I would caution against is the small keyboard. It is far more comfortable (and efficient) to program on a full-size (or as near to full-size as possible) keyboard.
I don't know what type of program you are going into, but if you take any courses on 3d graphics you are almost certainly going to lose the ability to test your programs through a remote desktop connection.
I personally think that tablets are great in conjunction with a desktop. I plan to get rid of my netbook once I get the transformer. My only concern for you is that a tablet simply isn't a good tool for programming. If the hacker community manages to get ubuntu onto the transformer then the device will be an acceptable programming tool in my opinion; although, you will still lack a full size keyboard.
My advice to you is wait until mid-to-late summer. There is a slew of new tech toys coming out this summer, and almost anything you get now will be outdated by the time you start in the fall. By summer you will know if we managed to get Ubuntu on the transformer, AMD's Llano processor will be out on laptops, and Tegra 3 tablets may be just around the corner.

BongoBong said:
Sorry if this is hijacking your thread (ill start a new thread if you want) but just wondering if there is a good note taking apps for android?
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Don't need to hijack anything. Just look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=980783

I'm a secondary school student, I have a HP DM1 (Not the Z ), runs 7 pro X64 + VS 2010 Pro + VS2008 Pro. Got a load of VM's for debugging ETC...
Windows is good for note taking to, Onenote is great.
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good old days of using SSH + eMacs + X client, they all switched to windows in school?

Magnesus said:
Don't need to hijack anything. Just look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=980783
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Thanks, but I have already seen that thread and done some other looking up and the majority of discussion is whats the best handwriting app. They really don't mention how good it would be for mostly typing (understandable since most would be using the on screen keyboard).

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1039287&highlight=onenote

someone seriously needs to start porting some compilers to android..
many scripting languages are available through SL4A but most CS courses are taught with C/C++ or Java. I'd love to help out with this project but I just wouldn't know where to start

Just adding on to this, since I'm a student and also looking for a tablet solution.
I'd love:
1. Printing to my university printers. My university currently requires you install some software to use their printers. Mac and Windows versions available, no Linux, no Android.
2. Onenote would be awesome. I read that there was an iPhone version available? Android should be coing soon hopefully.

I would suggest a full laptop, and something with high resolution. Once your CS load picks up you'll need something you can work on in between or during classes. Android lacking compilers on the OS itself is the killer here, otherwise you are free to code all you want via text editors.

j7899 said:
I would suggest a full laptop, and something with high resolution. Once your CS load picks up you'll need something you can work on in between or during classes. Android lacking compilers on the OS itself is the killer here, otherwise you are free to code all you want via text editors.
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As a CS student myself I would agree with the above and add that in programming classes you will want all the screen real-estate you can get your hands on(17"+), a good amount of hard disk space, 4gb+ ram, and a good Virtual Machine program. Less important is video and cpu power unless you intend to make it a desktop replacement/gaming machine.
That being said... Such a laptop is going to be rather heavy. I am getting the Transformer to replace an early gen AspireOne for less technical classes.
Just my $0.02

Flowah said:
Just adding on to this, since I'm a student and also looking for a tablet solution.
I'd love:
1. Printing to my university printers. My university currently requires you install some software to use their printers. Mac and Windows versions available, no Linux, no Android.
2. Onenote would be awesome. I read that there was an iPhone version available? Android should be coing soon hopefully.
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I was about to say that you're insane and that MS would never make OneNote for iOS but.. turns out you're right. That's really strange. Hopefully they start work on an Android version soon.
Edit: The iOS version of OneNote doesn't seem all that great. You can't write with a stylus.. it's just keyboard input. lame. Writing with a capacitive stylus on the transformer would kind of suck anyway, but I might still consider the HTC Flyer which has an active digitizer.

smaskell said:
I was about to say that you're insane and that MS would never make OneNote for iOS but.. turns out you're right. That's really strange. Hopefully they start work on an Android version soon.
Edit: The iOS version of OneNote doesn't seem all that great. You can't write with a stylus.. it's just keyboard input. lame. Writing with a capacitive stylus on the transformer would kind of suck anyway, but I might still consider the HTC Flyer which has an active digitizer.
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Right, but I'm interested in the Transformer almost purely because of the keyboard dock, so keyboard input only is fine with me tbh. As long as it's decently full featured.

I'm waiting to see if the AMD Llano will make the best thin gaming laptop. Hopefully, new AMD laptops will come out in June, right before back-to-school season.
Oh yeah, OneNote. Yeah, that's important too.

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Oh yeah, OneNote. Yeah, that's important too.
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Onenote is the single most useful piece of software MS has ever produced (Excluding win7;p))

Virtual Machines? Eh, I never needed to use one except when I was using a Mac. Wandering what you guys are doing with it.
Any laptop that is 13"+ in screen size is good. The power of the computer depends on what you plan to do. So you have to decide on the specs yourself. Dual Core is fine unless you plan to do any CPU intensive tasks. If you ever need a bigger screen, then you can just buy a monitor and hook it up so even a netbook could be fine if you are okay with the power it gives. 13"-15" is good. 17" is just monstrous and you don't want to be lugging that around.

Has anyone replaced their desktop/laptop with their mobile device yet?

As more and more applications and uses become available for our mobile devices, im curious to know If there is anyone who has fully made the transition from the traditional computing setup entirely to a mobile one?
Personally I feel as if I'm almost there. The last few months I find myself nearly never using my windows PC at all for anything besides the occasional data transfer from drives. But Last week I purchased a micro USB male to USB 2.0 female adapter to use a mouse & flash/hard drives on my galaxy note. This nearly has rendered my PC useless. At this point I can only think of using it for the occasional PC game. Being that my galaxy note has the exact same resolution as my laptop, even watching the occasional movie on it seems useless. One would argue that office emulation solutions on mobile devices aren't quite there yet, but for my use, I'm pretty content with what's available. The only thing that has completely kept me going back to my PC is to access one of my harddrives that is formatted in ntfs, and (for now) modding. Once I find a solution for that drive to be read on my note, then I will probably sell the thing.
So is there anyone else that is either in the process of or already made the transition from their PC to their mobile device?
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not untill windows 8
I will only replace my PC when Windows 8 tablets come out, they're the only handheld devices worth of replacing a PC, i mean Windows Explorer on a tablet? and the metro UI? that's a lethal combination.

i stopped using laptops since 3 years ago, since the birth of 1ghz android phones

DaPhunk said:
I will only replace my PC when Windows 8 tablets come out, they're the only handheld devices worth of replacing a PC, i mean Windows Explorer on a tablet? and the metro UI? that's a lethal combination.
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Im interested in windows 8 tablets. But even seeing what has been demonstrated, Im not convinced if it will be marginally better than other mobile offerings. I mean yeah those core windows applications are there, driver support, ect. but Idk If that's enough to win me over personally. I have nothing agasint windows but it doesn't seem so compelling to me to get one just for windows explorer. Just really a file manager. Im more compelled towards PC gaming intergration if anything. And slowly it seems those titles are being embraced by other platforms anyway.
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I pretty much only use my desktop for gaming. I can even pay my bills with the phone now with a app, so I have really no reason to use my PC for anything else. I always watch movies on my 42" through my PS3 anyway.
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Desktop replaced by a mobile phone?
That sound ridiculous. Considering how much I invested into my desktop, I'll be damned if it was to be replaced by a phone.
A Netbook, Yea I can see my phone replacing it. But seeing as how my Netbook battery last longer than my phone, It could become quite handy when I'm traveling.
But, Nope my phone hasn't replaced anything for me.

I definitely have not replaced my desktop. I need my virtual machines and games
What I have replaced for the most part is my laptop which I now use my phone for.

Most people use their computers for simple things, like browsing the web, listening to music, watching videos, storing pictures, etc. For those people, yeah, they could replace their PCs with Android devices.
However, there are those of us who do stuff like programming, hardcore gaming (Let's see even an iPad 3's quad core gpu play Crysis...I'll bet it can't) or otherwise use applications that Android cannot recreate. For those people, I doubt handheld devices will ever a real solution and PCs will still be around for a long, long time.

LogisticsXLS said:
Desktop replaced by a mobile phone?
That sound ridiculous. Considering how much I invested into my desktop, I'll be damned if it was to be replaced by a phone.
A Netbook, Yea I can see my phone replacing it. But seeing as how my Netbook battery last longer than my phone, It could become quite handy when I'm traveling.
But, Nope my phone hasn't replaced anything for me.
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I know a couple of people who can get away with that. If you're just checking e-mails and facebook, you can accomplish that on the phone.
I don't see replacing my desktop going anywhere for a long time. Even if there was enough power in a portable machine it's still going to be docked so I can wired devices.

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LogisticsXLS said:
Desktop replaced by a mobile phone?
That sound ridiculous. Considering how much I invested into my desktop, I'll be damned if it was to be replaced by a phone.
A Netbook, Yea I can see my phone replacing it. But seeing as how my Netbook battery last longer than my phone, It could become quite handy when I'm traveling.
But, Nope my phone hasn't replaced anything for me.
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well certainly it varies dependant on the device you use of course.
Xenosion said:
I definitely have not replaced my desktop. I need my virtual machines and games
What I have replaced for the most part is my laptop which I now use my phone for.
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PoorCollegeGuy said:
Most people use their computers for simple things, like browsing the web, listening to music, watching videos, storing pictures, etc. For those people, yeah, they could replace their PCs with Android devices.
However, there are those of us who do stuff like programming, hardcore gaming (Let's see even an iPad 3's quad core gpu play Crysis...I'll bet it can't) or otherwise use applications that Android cannot recreate. For those people, I doubt handheld devices will ever a real solution and PCs will still be around for a long, long time.
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I certainly do my fair share of "hardcore" gaming on my PC. That being said though, my PC has essentially become another platform if you will (I.e. ps3, Xbox) to me. And like those platforms, having them arent really a necessity to me. Also, I don't think its fair to say lack of gpu power rules out a devices gaming potential. I still have a gamecube that I use and take to ssbm tournaments. A game is only as hardcore as the user playing it.
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I have almost completely replaced my desktop in daily use. And the need for a laptop is not there anymore after getting a galaxy tab 10.1
Combined with my galaxy SII, it takes care of all my needs.
The only thing I'm still running on the 3 desktop computers in my house is a combined fileserver/squeezeserver/downloader machine.
It's placed in the attic, and my Android devices are great for remote control over it.
My basement/home theater machine is used for watching movies/tv shows, and android devices controls all functions of the media center.
The last desktop is only in use for when we listen to music, squeezeplay controlled by androids.
The only thing I'm missing is a way to control my poker league software via Android.
I'm using Dr. Neau's software, and have not found a way to run it on Android.
It display stats on two computers (multi table poker league), and I'd love to find a way to control it via my android's also...
Even my wife and child only uses android at home, my wife loves her SII - and my daughter plays games on the tab and phones.
I've been "androidifyed"
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This is more of a discussion thread. How did you manage to misinterpret that? Because it ended in a question mark? Should I have used an
explanation mark like everyone else who has bad grammer? Im clearly only asking for opinions, not help with anything....
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HarmonyFlame said:
I certainly do my fair share of "hardcore" gaming on my PC. That being said though, my PC has essentially become another platform if you will (I.e. ps3, Xbox) to me. And like those platforms, having them arent really a necessity to me. Also, I don't think its fair to say lack of gpu power rules out a devices gaming potential. I still have a gamecube that I use and take to ssbm tournaments. A game is only as hardcore as the user playing it.
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I can see this being the case with many people but not with me. I don't have any gaming platform other than my PC (and my phone but not big into that). This is excluding my collection of nostalgia consoles. All my work is done on my PC (Systems Admin for the most part) and this includes virtual machines. Can't really do without my PC at this stage.

DaPhunk said:
I will only replace my PC when Windows 8 tablets come out, they're the only handheld devices worth of replacing a PC, i mean Windows Explorer on a tablet? and the metro UI? that's a lethal combination.
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I totally agree...
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I recently moved house and in between places at the moment so all my tech is packed away in storage. I've been forced to do my day to day work across a combo of Samsung Galaxy SII and my main device Galaxy Tab 10.1
My day 2 day files that I access regular were stored on a Windows Home Server which was connected to a Box Cloud account for stuff I need access to from anywhere, anytime so I am now using the Tab and phone to access this box account that will be re-sync'd once I settle down and re instate my Home Server.
My main Desktop PC is a HP Touch smart running Windows 8 CP so I would still keep that for home media stuff or when absolutely a PC is needed at a moments notice. My only other PC I have is a little book size Asus purely for live HD TV connected to my LED TV and used as a HTPC and DLNA streaming to my android devices but I think once Windows 8 becomes fully rolled out across PC's, tablets and eventually phones.... I will replace the Android devices and I will content that all my devices will be the same baseline OS and all my data completely sync'd across windows live id's.
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maybe when we can install linux OS on our tablet then that will be the time i will replace my old pc

On a second note, I thought of something else whilst reading the other posts.... there will always be a need to access windows or Mac full blown applications like Office, outlook etc.... so my plan further down the line was to upgrade the hardware on my Windows Home Server and add a VMWare environment to the mix or a separate box depending on performance and run full blown virtual machines that I can access from anywhere on my android devices using Wyse Pocket cloud app for either remote desktop or VNC access using Google services to access them from anywhere I have a connection which is quite appealing for me....
That means I would pretty much only use my mobile devices full time and have desktop services via virtual machine clients either on android or windows 8 tablets, phones further down the line.
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jamescraven said:
maybe when we can install linux OS on our tablet then that will be the time i will replace my old pc
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Lol....I believe it is possible, I've seen posts mentioning Ubuntu being ran on a galaxy tab 10.1, what I would really like to see would be for someone to get hold of a windows 8 ARM sdk and create an image so I can install it on my android tablet.
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HarmonyFlame said:
So is there anyone else that is either in the process of or already made the transition from their PC to their mobile device?
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I used to own a laptop in addition to my mobile phone, but ever since I've owned a smartphone, I find myself using my laptop less and less. Except for really complicated tasks, I find my android phone sufficient, and in some cases, better than an actual PC.

Windows tablets

Would you guys recommend that one buys the Asus transformer 300 as opposed to waiting for windows 8 tablets and buying one of them? If so, why?
Thanks
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Would you guys recommend that one buys the Asus transformer 300 as opposed to waiting for windows 8 tablets and buying one of them? If so, why?
Thanks
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That's a tough call. I was thinking the same thing. Finally I bought the TF300 reasoning that:
1) Win RT tablets are still months away
2) Even when the first ones are released, it may well be a few more months before a manufacturer releases one I really like
3) Even then, it will be a few more months before there's a critical mass of decent applications for the platform.
So all in all I'm guessing 18 months to two years before Windows 8 tablets are truly attractive propositions, and by that time I'll probably be itching to update anyway, so I'll be able to re-consider the direction I want to go in at the time.

dsf3g said:
That's a tough call. I was thinking the same thing. Finally I bought the TF300 reasoning that:
1) Win RT tablets are still months away
2) Even when the first ones are released, it may well be a few more months before a manufacturer releases one I really like
3) Even then, it will be a few more months before there's a critical mass of decent applications for the platform.
So all in all I'm guessing 18 months to two years before Windows 8 tablets are truly attractive propositions, and by that time I'll probably be itching to update anyway, so I'll be able to re-consider the direction I want to go in at the time.
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What is it about windows that is so attractive though? As in, what can you do on a windows tablet that you can't on Android?
2. What do you think, the Dell inspiron duo or this?
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I had the same question a week ago.
My girlfriend needed a "portable office" and the question was: Notebook or Notebook.
But then I told her there is a tablet with keyboard dock and listed some advantages, because she already have a Samsung Galaxy Ace.
And that it is possible to connect external volumes like USB sticks or drives.
Now she uses the TF300T about a week and is still satisfied.
All she has to do is to write some things in Word and a little bit Powerpoint. All this is done very well with OfficeSuite Pro.
Additionally she has to transfer some pictures, e-mails and surfing the net.
No need for Windows.
Now she can sync her calendar very very easy, has her contacts everywhere and can manage them easily, and can use the same payed apps as she bought for her Galaxy Ace.
My job is done.
You should just think about what you do most.
If you want to play some games which are windows only, okay. But you don't have already a PC at home?
Do you have special applications which are windows only?
Android is much smoother than windows. It's faster because it's not overloaded with things normal humans wouldn't need.
Additionally no idea about the battery lifetime. Notebooks have much less and I assume, Windows 8 tablets won't work as long as an Android tablet.

Thanks for the reply!
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KindaUndisputed said:
What is it about windows that is so attractive though? As in, what can you do on a windows tablet that you can't on Android?
2. What do you think, the Dell inspiron duo or this?
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At this point, nothing, because there aren't any Windows RT tablets to compare to. So it's all speculative, on my part.
However, I would expect to find a very robst and well implemented web brower and a robust and well implemented Office suite as well as good Windows networking and printing.
The emergence of Chrome on Android makes the first point much less of an issue. I've been using Chrome on the TF300 and really, really like it. Heck, I've also found that Opera on my TF300 behaves much better than it does on my HTC Flyer.
But I'm still waiting for a decent Office suite. There are some OK ones out there, getting better by the day. I do like Office Suite Professional. But some pretty important features are missing (for insatnce, the ability to create multi-columned documents).

The big appeal of Windows 8 being on tablets is compatibility. There will be Metro Apps and regular Windows 8 apps. Metro Apps are gonna be for mobile devices like your tablet and your home PC.
With Windows 8 your old x86 PC applications won't run on your tablet, but your new Metro apps should be compatible with your PC and tablet. So if I'm playing a game on my tablet, I go home, I can sync up and continue playing on my PC. That's a very cool options to have. I'm using an app to work on a project on my tablet, I can jump right into the same application, with the same interface, and continue at my desk.
It's one step closer to blurring the line between a home PC and mobile devices.

[Q] Surface legacy software suport

Hi guys, i am just wondering how the things going with the legacy apps/software on Surface?
Is it possible to run any apps/software on Surface which are running under xp/vista/w7/w8 ?

HeartKiller said:
Hi guys, i am just wondering how the things going with the legacy apps/software on Surface?
Is it possible to run any apps/software on Surface which are running under xp/vista/w7/w8 ?
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No, it is not possible to run legacy apps. Eventually we may be able to run recompiled versions of these apps, but an app from xp will not run on the surface at any point without at least first being compiled for arm

It will run on surface pro, not surface rt

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It will run on surface pro, not surface rt
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Aha, that is sounds good.
http://www.microsoft.com/Surface/en-us/surface-with-windows-8-pro/home - future version will do run legacy apps.
http://www.microsoft.com/Surface/en-US/surface-with-windows-rt/home - current version is lucking that.
For me it is looks like MS released useless device, because as a Surface user if I am not able to run legacy apps - such device is completely useless
Yes it may be all right for HoseWife users but for Experienced users such device is completely rubbish.

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Yes it may be all right for HoseWife users but for Experienced users such device is completely rubbish.
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If you were an experienced user, you would have known what Windows RT was about without having to ask.
I can do plenty of real world work using the Surface, because I use it as a companion device to better equipped machines.
I am a IT professional, but I would not trade the battery life of the ARM based Surface with the power of an Intel based Surface Pro.
Just because something doesn't suit your purposes, doesn't make it rubbish!
As it is, by coming onto this forum making posts such as yours, you're just a troll.
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HeartKiller said:
Yes it may be all right for HoseWife users but for Experienced users such device is completely rubbish.
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From the man who has owned 2 Motorola Razrs and a Siemens mobile phone. :highfive:

zing

Thank you guys for your replies.
But I would of thought that real man users would of guess that after "30th December 2012 at 11:41 AM" the question is kind of closed
Anyway I completely agree and it is exactly what I meant - if something is rubbish to me it is doesn't mean that it is nor rubbish for everybody.
Have a fun with your Surface RT if you already got one.
As for me I rather would wait unitl Pro ver released, but still not sure yet if I can by that because may be I am sill not experienced enough.
May be before to by Pro I need to by 5 iPhones, 10 iPads and some Galaxy tabls so I can put that phones in to my signature to look like a real man.

HeartKiller said:
Anyway I completely agree and it is exactly what I meant - if something is rubbish to me it is doesn't mean that it is nor rubbish for everybody.
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May be before to by Pro I need to by 5 iPhones, 10 iPads and some Galaxy tabls so I can put that phones in to my signature to look like a real man.
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if it was what you meant you wouldn't have called everyone housewife users.
You don't need a million devices, just expect an insult back when you are criticizing other users for their choice of tablet

HeartKiller said:
Thank you guys for your replies.
But I would of thought that real man users would of guess that after "30th December 2012 at 11:41 AM" the question is kind of closed
Anyway I completely agree and it is exactly what I meant - if something is rubbish to me it is doesn't mean that it is nor rubbish for everybody.
Have a fun with your Surface RT if you already got one.
As for me I rather would wait unitl Pro ver released, but still not sure yet if I can by that because may be I am sill not experienced enough.
May be before to by Pro I need to by 5 iPhones, 10 iPads and some Galaxy tabls so I can put that phones in to my signature to look like a real man.
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Mate the issue is your calling us housewives and inferring your an experienced professional user. Surface with windows rt has been announced for quite some time as an IT professional I've known full well it is an arm device which would require special apps so don't go calling me a housewife and making out your an experienced user, your simply not that smart.
I purchased my Surface RT due to the incredible battery life and the fact I can use this device to guide almost any user with windows 7/8 very easily. Full fledged remote desktop and office applications right out of the box is fantastic.
Perfect companion device for an IT professional. I'd say the housewives would be happy to stick with their ipads

The fact that I can use tablet style apps, run a full desktop environment, run a command line, and run remote desktops is exactly what I want out of a tablet. I don't need to run legacy apps when I have two other desktops and a laptop, all with remote desktop capability. For me, the pro version would be nice but the cost is too high. In addition to the cost of a pro surface, I would still need to buy a license for office.
I am a 22 year IT veteran and have used every version of Windows since version 2.11. I would hardly call myself a "housewife" user and I am very happy with my surface. I wouldn't mind running legacy apps but I certainly don't need to.

Windows 8.1 for Note 3. Not a launcher!

From Microsoft
From Samsung
Why have I not seen anything, and cannot search and find something for, on XDA regarding installing win 8.1 on note 3? Am I missing something here?
Or can I install, not emulate, not fake, but full blown windows phone on my note 3? Understand I have developed using visual studios for 10+ years. Can learn to do windows apps faster than android apps. I'm not strong with Java.... yet.
Has anyone done this? Anyone have a link to a tutorial on this? I am just about to start my search but something tells me that if this is legit I'm going to have windows running instead of android on my note 3. Or.. I'm going to perma brick it, or it will blow up, or a little android is going to pop out behind the battery and kick me in the nuts for trying.
Who knows?
Nick
[EDIT] ah HA HA! I don't think windows phone is available for download. Damn.[EDIT]

I'm an idiot. This is the other way around, plugging device into windows pc. DOH

wtf
NJDubois said:
From Microsoft
From Samsung
Why have I not seen anything, and cannot search and find something for, on XDA regarding installing win 8.1 on note 3? Am I missing something here?
Or can I install, not emulate, not fake, but full blown windows phone on my note 3? Understand I have developed using visual studios for 10+ years. Can learn to do windows apps faster than android apps. I'm not strong with Java.... yet.
Has anyone done this? Anyone have a link to a tutorial on this? I am just about to start my search but something tells me that if this is legit I'm going to have windows running instead of android on my note 3. Or.. I'm going to perma brick it, or it will blow up, or a little android is going to pop out behind the battery and kick me in the nuts for trying.
Who knows?
Nick
[EDIT] ah HA HA! I don't think windows phone is available for download. Damn.[EDIT]
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what the **** note 3 is very powerful because of android touch wiz on it yeah there is some bloat need to be removed but sick windows 8.1 very losing market share the war is ios vs android / stupid windows should not compete at all

NJDubois said:
From Microsoft
From Samsung
Why have I not seen anything, and cannot search and find something for, on XDA regarding installing win 8.1 on note 3? Am I missing something here?
Or can I install, not emulate, not fake, but full blown windows phone on my note 3? Understand I have developed using visual studios for 10+ years. Can learn to do windows apps faster than android apps. I'm not strong with Java.... yet.
Has anyone done this? Anyone have a link to a tutorial on this? I am just about to start my search but something tells me that if this is legit I'm going to have windows running instead of android on my note 3. Or.. I'm going to perma brick it, or it will blow up, or a little android is going to pop out behind the battery and kick me in the nuts for trying.
Who knows?
Nick
[EDIT] ah HA HA! I don't think windows phone is available for download. Damn.[EDIT]
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NJDubois said:
I'm an idiot. This is the other way around, plugging device into windows pc. DOH
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Good, at least you acknowledged your blasphemous realization, most people just post here asking a question and then disappears.
q8peace said:
what the **** note 3 is very powerful because of android touch wiz on it yeah there is some bloat need to be removed but sick windows 8.1 very losing market share the war is ios vs android / stupid windows should not compete at all
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Angry Birds and CoD and MW2 and Black Ops 2 and sh*t.
Watch your language and provide useful information rather than bashing operating systems with no fact base.
I personally run Windows 8.1 and it is way faster than any other OS I have used. It may not be as user friendly like Windows 7, but the background tweaks and touch ups are far more superior than any Android software could come to be. SSD and EFI based systems get the benefit of Windows 8's new features, and boots way faster than an old computer running Windows 8.
When talking about the share on mobile devices, get it right. No OSes are competing against each other. It's the company who holds the software that is trying to compete with each other. Google's Android is not even trying to compete, but rather enhance their software to cater to the users. Apple is just re-releasing old software as new, or just stealing ideas from Android (so people won't have another reason to leave iOS). Samsung is competing using their hardware improvements like heart rate monitor, S Pen, etc, while Apple just re-released the iPhone 4 three times in a different form factor with 'supposedly updated specs'.
You can't fight a war that you didn't begin to attend. Windows mobile never dominated for the reason of dominating like Apple does. In fact, Microsoft is doing a great job of replacing Symbian, WebOS and all those legacy operating systems - because there is now a low cost, non-heavy CPU efficient OS out there, it removes the necessity to shove Symbian on a low-budget phone and make it sh*ttier.

Actually I love android but the note 3 would make a great phone to have WP 8.1 on and I would try that out for sure or if i could dual boot that would be even better
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Windows made a mobile long before apple or androif. The sx56 and a few other where made long before. Even palm had pda phones long before. Its idiots that followed apple even with its limited functionality from day one making it popular. Up to this day I don't see the point of os. They just made a balck slate, gave people freedom to make the apps for it and then restricted it. They get to make allot of money from people making apps and selling it thru their store. Android or windows will ultimately become the supreme two operating systems for phones. Its only a matter of time for people who actually know about phones or use their functionality properly will all realize apple is just a phone made for dummies. Most apple buyers don't when know how to add music to their device. They just buy them for the popularity. Idiots can not say my phone.os better when you don't even know it fun potential

You do realise its states compatible as in... You can connect it to an 8.1 machine and that theres compatible drivers for software etc...
Not that it's compatible as in its for running 8.1 upon.
It's the same as when I buy a mouse, it states windows compatible, doesn't mean the mouse can run windows haha, good effort though.
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