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What is the location of the Nexus S Boot image? i.e. On startup the picture with all black that says "Google" on it.
Looking for the location of this image.
Also if anyone knows the method of going about changing it.
All help is appreciated thank you.
I don't believe it's on the /system partition; I looked for it extensively a couple of weeks ago. I'm pretty sure it's in the kernel boot image.
I don't have the skills yet to extract stuff from the bootloader. If you do, that's where you should be looking.
Thank's for the reply. I feared it might be that way. hmmm. Looks like I need to learn a thing or two If I want a custom image
there was another topic about this
and in the SNS it is not a series of PNG images as in the other
AOS phones, instead it's a video clip
AllGamer said:
there was another topic about this
and in the SNS it is not a series of PNG images as in the other
AOS phones, instead it's a video clip
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He's not talking about the startup animation that you see on a normal boot.
He's talking about the very first bootup screen you see when you turn the phone on; the one that is just the word Google on a black background. This one shows no matter what you're booting into. It's not part of the animation you're referring to. I've opened that and checked, and I posted it in the other thread where a guy was asking for the boot animation, but was actually looking for the Google word one.
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He's not talking about the startup animation that you see on a normal boot.
He's talking about the very first bootup screen you see when you turn the phone on; the one that is just the word Google on a black background. This one shows no matter what you're booting into. It's not part of the animation you're referring to. I've opened that and checked, and I posted it in the other thread where a guy was asking for the boot animation, but was actually looking for the Google word one.
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Correct. I have a personal picture I made on my G1 a while back that I wanted to make for my Nexus S, but at the moment, the Team Whiskey splash screen is on it, and I don't much care for it. So I'm looking for a way to change that. The splash image came with the 1.4GHz kernal.
uhhhhhhhh... i'll be interested in the location of that too
to upload my own pic
so distortedloop , mind sharing the location?
i'd like to play around with that too
Had I more knowledge on the subject of building kernels, i'd be more then willing to tackle it, but alas, I have no knowledge on the subject.
Wonder how difficult it is to grasp...I'd like to try building my own kernel.
AllGamer said:
uhhhhhhhh... i'll be interested in the location of that too
to upload my own pic
so distortedloop , mind sharing the location?
i'd like to play around with that too
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I don't know where in the boot image it is, but I'm 99% certain it's not in the regular ROM space we can get with a file explorer. I asked the famous supercurio what he thought, and he said he's never looked for it but agrees it's probably in the bootloader. He said he'll try to remember to check it out if he remembers.
@SpartusTana - if Team Whiskey's replaced it, they must know the location! Maybe ask them for the location, and/or a rip of it for the guy who's looking for it to port to another phone (in another thread here).
That's a healthy idea. I'll try hoping over to their IRC to see if anyone has the knowledge of it.
Any idea on the guy's name who is working on the port? I'd much like to get in touch with him.
Also, it looks like they're doing this on HTC devices via fastboot.
Personally, I wouldn't muck with it on my phone, but the really intrepid might be willing to read the tutorial here and try it out on our Nexus S...
edit: actually probably won't work, they're mentioning using an "engineering bootloader"...
that's for the info
well, in the worse case scenario, we just need to re-flash the ROM in CW
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that's for the info
well, in the worse case scenario, we just need to re-flash the ROM in CW
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If you mess up your bootloader, you might not be able to get into CW, right? That's my fear.
Yah it doesn't appear as though it will work but thank you for looking into it.
@distortedloop You're correct on that. There's no real seperate button combination to bypass the bootloader to get into the recovery. So if the bootloader got screwed up...you'd screw yourself right back. I am wholy against messing with the bootloader haha.
sorry for requesting in this old thread. but is there any progress on this? really want to change that splash...
It is possible I have done it with the second stage Bootloader... The first stage is still google with the unlock.
If you speak Japanese This may be of some help to you.
http://creamsnexus.blogspot.com/2011/02/change-nexus-ss-boot-splash-image.html
Note: I'm posting this on multiple forums to receive more varied feedback, so if you see it in a couple places, please don't get upset.
I'm thinking of getting rid of my Inspire for a Nexus One. I'm frankly disappointed in the battery life and the customization options available to me. I've been reading these forums for quite awhile, so I'm very aware of all the options I have with my Inspire -- telling me that I can root "following this guide" or whatnot isn't going to be a game-changer for me.
What are your thoughts? What will I miss going from the Inspire to the Nexus One? What might I like better about the Nexus One? Is the trackball really that exciting?
If I do end up looking to do it, what do I have to look for when getting one? I know they sold them for TMo only first, and then brought out an AT&T compatible one. I've heard that there were two different screens available for them, does anyone have a preference or know what the difference might be? If I do end up looking for one, where should I look? Do you think there would be people willing to trade a Nexus One for an Inspire plus some cash?
I've already done a backup to the SD card via My Backup Pro - if I get a Nexus One, should I just have to insert the SIM and SD card and restore everything, or do I have to worry about more than that?
Any thoughts or advice is welcome! Thank you!
What customization options are you disappointed about? Just remember the Inspire is just 2 months old and look how far we have gotten with it so far.
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True, I do recognize that I'm posting in the XDA forums! I'm speaking of a stock, unrooted Inspire. I'm not willing to root this phone -- after reading nearly everything there is to read on it, I'm convinced I will break it or get lost. I know my limits, and this is it. If there was a way to root without needing a gold card or downgrading or any of that, I might be in. There are many phones out there that can even be rooted without losing your info! This is complicated. At this point I'd simply be following directions whose actual meaning I'd be completely lost to, and just hoping that everything was done right in the right order. And if something went wrong, I'd have no idea where or how in between S-off, gold cards, downgrading, radios, sound issues, Eng S-off, etc.
I'm not knocking the people here, you have done amazing things with a phone that did NOT want to be rooted/customized. I'm just not able to take advantage of what you've done, because to be honest -- it is all above my head. And I'm not willing to be one of those people with the "Help! I think I turned my Inspire into a rabbit" threads.
Silas0220 said:
True, I do recognize that I'm posting in the XDA forums! I'm speaking of a stock, unrooted Inspire. I'm not willing to root this phone -- after reading nearly everything there is to read on it, I'm convinced I will break it or get lost. I know my limits, and this is it. If there was a way to root without needing a gold card or downgrading or any of that, I might be in. There are many phones out there that can even be rooted without losing your info! This is complicated. At this point I'd simply be following directions whose actual meaning I'd be completely lost to, and just hoping that everything was done right in the right order. And if something went wrong, I'd have no idea where or how in between S-off, gold cards, downgrading, radios, sound issues, Eng S-off, etc.
I'm not knocking the people here, you have done amazing things with a phone that did NOT want to be rooted/customized. I'm just not able to take advantage of what you've done, because to be honest -- it is all above my head. And I'm not willing to be one of those people with the "Help! I think I turned my Inspire into a rabbit" threads.
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rooting is easier then you think!
HTC Inspire on CM7. Beast ROM. If I helped Thank me
I wouldn't touch a Nexus One with a ten foot pole. I am too used to using modern tech. That phone is very dated and feels every month of it. It would be like me giving up my Inspire for an iPhone 3G. If I were to move to the Nexus, I'd definitely be looking at the Nexus S. It's still an older tech phone, but has a nicer screen, it's lighter, and has a great support community.
However, I really can't think of anything you could do with the Nexus One that you can't with the Inspire... Every rom you could think of is here on this phone. The Captivate devs are almost all over here now, so we have that going for us. Of course, I'm in an HSPA+ area, so I'd also be taking a nose dive in data speed.
Oh yea, and using the newest version of the LeeDroid rom with SetCPU on the "Smartass" governer, I'm just now pluggin my phone in at the 34 hour mark with 5 hours of screen time... That's pretty damn good, if I do say so my damn self.
Many of your points involve rooting, which I've already said worries me. I'm a perfectly capable computer person, but the phone tech is daunting to me. I don't know where to start, and most of the terminology is worrying. You say it's easier than it looks, but that's because you've done it! To me looking in from the outside, it's so far beyond me it's like wanting to live on a base on the moon...
Silas0220 said:
Many of your points involve rooting, which I've already said worries me. I'm a perfectly capable computer person, but the phone tech is daunting to me. I don't know where to start, and most of the terminology is worrying. You say it's easier than it looks, but that's because you've done it! To me looking in from the outside, it's so far beyond me it's like wanting to live on a base on the moon...
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Don't sweat it, man. Just hop into the "One Click Root" thread in the Development forum. It'll outline what you need to have before starting the process. It will guide you step by step through what you need to do. It's a headache when you first do it, but after that you'll be flashing like a champ. It's addictive. Feel free to PM me if you want to go through it together. I'll be more than happy to help. Just make sure you do everything with a fully charged battery.
One Click Root thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961406
Also, there's a video in the top part of the first post. It's for an earlier version of the root app, but it's still very viable and lets you watch someone do it before you go through it.
Maybe he will like that with the N1 you can have a dirty trackball(since most are used now) that can change colors? You know colors with a "Brownish" tint.
The only thing advantage I could think of is there is a chance to use a cheaper data plan with the N1. But then again, the last time I used a N1 was a yr ago, so now the IMEIs may be recognized by ATT. But not sure if the OP realizes that you can do this.
Yeah, I've kinda dismissed the whole "Stick it to AT&T and use a $10 data plan!" thing. From what I can tell, the ones who do it are pretty much just lucky at this point. If you can say being stuck on Edge is lucky...
*takes a deep breath* Okay, maybe I'll look into this whole rooting business. I'd say I've been through about 1/3 of the pages in that one click root thread... Seems like a fair few people are getting things mucked up -- would you say they're pretty much the ones who are messing with things I'd likely never touch? Do I ever need to worry about a radio? Does the stock rooted ROM that's loaded at the end of it allow for better battery life and overclocking? Those are really my two biggest concerns if I'm going to root (and yeah, I get that they're counterproductive!).
I know I'm asking all the noob questions over again, most of which have already been answered many times here. People tend to get impatient with people like me getting into this kind of stuff, which is one reason I chose to stay away from it. This editorial (http://www.androidcentral.com/sometimes-root-isn’t-answer) also made me think twice (or three times)...
If I get into this, what I'd like to be able to do is to copy all my SD card files onto my computer, keeping the whole thing intact, copy it all back once this thing is done and I no longer need the gold card, fire up My Backup Pro, and have everything end up right back where it was. I really feel as if this is asking too much...
I know the feeling of everything looking really complex and hard. I came from a black berry, the key to rooting with either method is reading the directions. The directions are extremely watered down. What exactly scares you about rooting, what terminology? We are here to help you. The inspire is an amazing little device.
Thank you all for being willing to be so helpful. I'd say I was mostly turned off to rooting by going through the Hack Kit and One Click threads and reading about all the people who actually know what they're talking about having issues and breaking things. I figured if they were breaking things, I'd be SURE to mess something up big time.
I'll be keeping you guys at my fingertips for PMs if this goes badly, and I really do appreciate you being willing to help.
For those of you who do this ROM swapping thing often, is there any way to have some program make a snapshot of your homescreens so you don't have to re-configure them every time? Seems like it'd be a pain.
Silas0220 said:
Thank you all for being willing to be so helpful. I'd say I was mostly turned off to rooting by going through the Hack Kit and One Click threads and reading about all the people who actually know what they're talking about having issues and breaking things. I figured if they were breaking things, I'd be SURE to mess something up big time.
I'll be keeping you guys at my fingertips for PMs if this goes badly, and I really do appreciate you being willing to help.
For those of you who do this ROM swapping thing often, is there any way to have some program make a snapshot of your homescreens so you don't have to re-configure them every time? Seems like it'd be a pain.
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Breaking things not so much . No one has completely bricked their inspire. There are a few things here and there that pop up and usually already have a fix posted for them.
Check out the guide to flashing at the top of this forum, I tried to get as detailed as I could.
Honestly no, Flashing a new rom (not an patch/upgrade) will be like booting your phone up for the first time. Though you can back up your sms,apps, and contacts. Everything else you will have to set up again. It can be a pain, but the pros far out weigh the cons !
Any reason you can see for me to use the hack kit over the one click?
Sent from a solid block of aluminum.
They are both good, the hack kit lets you be a little more involved with the rooting process. Where the GUI is more automated. The GUI has the potential to flash the h-boot wrong after it is rooted and s-off, leading to a black cwm screen. You can find a fix for that in the guide that is stickied.
Ooooookay, taking a deep breath and diving in. I'll let you know when I come up for air...
Silas0220 said:
Any reason you can see for me to use the hack kit over the one click?
Sent from a solid block of aluminum.
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I say the only reason you should use the hack kit is to understand adb commands a little bit better. I've used both methods and felt a tiny bit more accomplished with the hack kit. Don't worry about messing up, there are plenty of people willing to lend a hand.
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Currently downloading the One Click with about 7 minutes to go. Is there an easy way to tell what ROMs allow for overclocking and to what point? I don't exactly see the need at the moment (I've never noticed my Inspire running slowly), but it'd be nice for future-proofing. I've been able to gather that OC requires more to do with the kernel than the ROM, and that not every ROM includes a kernel (I'm not even sure what I'd do with a kernel if I got one...). I'm figuring it's safe to assume that the stock rooted ROM that is loaded by the One Click doesn't have any OC abilities.
EDIT: I believe from most of my reading that I'm most interested in the LeeDroid ROM and accoutrements. Someone earlier mentioned that they are using this right now -- from going through his thread, it looks like that involves kernels and radios in addition to ROMS. I'm not asking for anyone to do anything special for me, but is there a step-by-step on how to go from post-One Click to happy LeeDroid?
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Currently downloading the One Click with about 7 minutes to go. Is there an easy way to tell what ROMs allow for overclocking and to what point? I don't exactly see the need at the moment (I've never noticed my Inspire running slowly), but it'd be nice for future-proofing. I've been able to gather that OC requires more to do with the kernel than the ROM, and that not every ROM includes a kernel (I'm not even sure what I'd do with a kernel if I got one...). I'm figuring it's safe to assume that the stock rooted ROM that is loaded by the One Click doesn't have any OC abilities.
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Unless they changed it no (GUI).
Most devs will put OC or [OC] in the threads title, most of the time the kernel will flash along side of the rom. Though if it isn't and it is an optional kernel, the best method is to flash the the rom, then reboot, then flash the kernel. Most are overclocked to 1.8ghz some are 1.5ghz.
edit: You flash a kernel like you would a rom, except when flashing a kernel you don't do a full wipe, but it is best to wipe cache and dalvik cache.
Divinedark said:
Don't sweat it, man. Just hop into the "One Click Root" thread in the Development forum. It'll outline what you need to have before starting the process. It will guide you step by step through what you need to do. It's a headache when you first do it, but after that you'll be flashing like a champ. It's addictive. Feel free to PM me if you want to go through it together. I'll be more than happy to help. Just make sure you do everything with a fully charged battery.
One Click Root thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961406
Also, there's a video in the top part of the first post. It's for an earlier version of the root app, but it's still very viable and lets you watch someone do it before you go through it.
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I have to chime in here and say that I have rooted and flashed my old Nexus one many times and I was totally lost with the Inspire root methods. I literally got a migraine just reading through the one-click thread the first time.
What are you having trouble understanding about it?
Hi ! Well technically im not new to the forum b/c i have a nexus one and use that ... part of the forum a lot but im tryin to help a friend right now.. He has a thunderbolt, and got it pretty close to initial release. He's had many problems with it like periodic need of restarts, and losing like a decent portion of is battery AFTER restart (example before start, 50%, after restart, 40-45%...), text msging problems like (example... "Hi" to John Doe, *send*... it does not appear in the window, go back to the messaging home screen... u see "Hi" sent to Harry Potter instead.. doesnt happen a lot but business wise, once or twice can cause the lost of business... =/ luckily clients have forgave him so far...
and of cos theres like other problems thats hes been experiencing but those are two that came to mind just now..
so wondering, what procedures to help him root/flash a new rom so he can get a better and faster use of his phone (OH another thing, its working quite slow... D i was lookin around the thunderbolt forum, theres roms like synergyrom and of cos cm7 that are really popular.. then reading in some areas, using the revolutionary method is a good way to start to..root? is the revolutionary method the way to get the bootloader or what.. lol yah im noob >_> surprising i got cm7 on my n1 lol
Many people would ***** at ya for not reading the stickies... naughty naughty. In any case yes you want revolutionary. And yes it provides s-off and an unlocked bootloader. Alternatively for the random SMS problem you can just download an alternate messaging app. I use chomp. If I helped ya hit the thanks!
My name is Revos I'm a recovering flashaholic running Liquid Gingerbread 3.0
All your questions answered Here
i actually did read it.. just didnt really understand it cuz it was different then how it was done for my nexus one...
If there are parts that you do not completely understand go ahead and ask specific questions. Nobody will be upset if you are trying to make sure you know what your doing. Which parts did you not understand?
so what i understand so far... you need to obtain S-Off and unlocked boot loader..
theres a few ways in obtaining that? mr1/ota permroot or revolutionary.. there are people saying revolutionary (or the quick n easy way) has a higher chance in bricking phone.. is that true? b/c i wanna use the way that has the lowest or one of the lower chance to brick the phone.. Yah i want it done fast but i want it done the safest way too.. was reading the instructions and it says it uses the clockwork recovery.. iirc.. there was between clockwork and amun-ra ??
for the most part it looks kind of similar to the process i did with my nexus one..
after it being rooted and having the bootloader... do i just look for those custom firmware packages like uhm cm7 or synergy (or what do you people recommend that you like??) and flash it from sd card in bootloader??
Of all the reading I did about revolutionary I didnt notice anyone bricking their phone. I'm not saying it didn't happen, but it seemed to run smooth for most everyone that followed the directions.
You will install CCW while your running the revolutionary.
And to answer your last question, yes you will just download whatever rom you choose to the root of your sdcard, flash it from recovery.
*sigh* friend hesistant to get it done because he has insurance on the phone... guess ill wait until he's willing ahaha thx for the help !
All the more reason to root. Worst case he bricks it. If he doesn't brick it he will learn how much more fun and enjoyable the Tbolt is with the ability to flash new roms, or change whatever he wants.
Insurance covers phones "accidentally" dropped into the toilet...
yah hes worried if it gets bricked.. hes all for the fixing ...
The only way you are going to brick your phone is if you don't follow the directions. Just make sure you do a nandroid backup through the bootloader and go from there. If your friend is to afraid to do it I'm sure you can check Craigslist for people to root it for you. I'd do it for you but I don't know if the forum allows it.
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Tell him to grow some and root. Hes gonna have to eventually do it anyways to avoid issues like hes been having. Of he does an insurance claim they're just gonna send him a refurbished one and who's to say all the issues were solved with that one after it was sent back? I don't get how people can complain, ask for help and then be reluctant. Whatever you do make sure you sit him down and walk him through it otherwise if he has any issues he'll be calling and blaming you. Been there and laughed and laughed. Good luck.
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I'm ashamed to admit it, but I'm in the same boat almost. I still haven't rooted and rom'd yet for similar reasons. That said, I'm pretty close, especially with the logging fiasco. From what I've read, there haven't been any legit reports of bricking due to Revolutionary, at least used correctly. Most people say it's only when you try an old method of rooting or otherwise don't follow directions.
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I'm ashamed to admit it, but I'm in the same boat almost. I still haven't rooted and rom'd yet for similar reasons. That said, I'm pretty close, especially with the logging fiasco. From what I've read, there haven't been any legit reports of bricking due to Revolutionary, at least used correctly. Most people say it's only when you try an old method of rooting or otherwise don't follow directions.
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Trust me... It's a LOT less scary after you do it than before. I've helped walk some people through the old ADB method with success and Revolutionary is idiot proof by comparison.
Looking to meet up with a more knowledgeable member (I'll buy lunch/dinner) to help me root, cid, to be able to flash roms....
I am a little knowledgeable, but the chance of my bricking my phone does not weigh my options here at this point..there's seems to be too many steps for my background...
I have had the Inspire and been flashing roms left and right but to do this on the One X and type code etc. , is just not cutting it and need your assistance.
I appreciate any response!
Thanks in advance,
SurferJD
...I'm in Davie, FL.....
It's actually not that complicated. There is a One Click root tool that you use for root that does it all for you. You just plug your phone into any computer with the drivers installed and run the tool, and in a few minutes you are rooted, with no user input. For boot loader unlock, you will need to do something on your own but that just involves copying and pasting some text. You use a one click tool for that too. I'm sure if you search around on the root and boot loader threads you'll figure it out enough for you to do it on your own.
I'll do it if you fly me out to Florida. I'll even take a redeye so the airfare will be cheap.
There are one clicks available for root, unlock, and recovery. Just did it today. Wasn't planning tobdo it for a while, but I tried to use a keyboard mod on stock rooted, didn't work now I'm running Clean Rom 2.4 and couldn't be happier. But I have been flashing Roms for over abfew years, and many phones.
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Honestly?
NEVER EVER EVER have someone else do this stuff for you.
If you ever come across a problem later on that needs to be fixed, where is your help going to be? these forums+your mind. if someone else does it for you, you are more likely to panic when something comes up.
it is INFINITELY better to understand what you are doing and do the work yourself vs having someone else do everything for you.
if it is too hard for you to accomplish after utilizing the tools and information available to you here, then you are not ready to do it or have it done to your phone. leave it stock until you ARE ready...actually ready, not just thinking you want it.
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Honestly?
NEVER EVER EVER have someone else do this stuff for you.
If you ever come across a problem later on that needs to be fixed, where is your help going to be? these forums+your mind. if someone else does it for you, you are more likely to panic when something comes up.
it is INFINITELY better to understand what you are doing and do the work yourself vs having someone else do everything for you.
if it is too hard for you to accomplish after utilizing the tools and information available to you here, then you are not ready to do it or have it done to your phone. leave it stock until you ARE ready...actually ready, not just thinking you want it.
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Hi I'm having trouble with my tablet.
1. No I cannot do the downloading mode because my tablet keeps switching on and off too quickly before I can even try.
2. I tried going on recovery mode but the blue logo doesn't appear because my tablet switches off too quickly...
3. I don't have the money right now to buy another tablet so please don't go spouted that bullsh*t to me because I'm pissed as it is.
4. I can't even charge my tablet because it's doing this turning on and off...it shows the charging icon then it goes on and off on and off....
I didn't do anything wrong, so don't go saying that sh*t either.
Please help me on this, I'm so very frustrated...
I already got it fixed...wow this site sucks.
Firstlady90372 said:
I already got it fixed...wow this site sucks.
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It would be nice if you described how you fixed it in case anyone else has the same problem.
Also please keep in mind that everyone here is trying to help. Not getting an answer means that either nobody knows the answer or you didnt explain with enough details your issue, so there is no need for insults.
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It would be nice if you described how you fixed it in case anyone else has the same problem.
Also please keep in mind that everyone here is trying to help. Not getting an answer means that either nobody knows the answer or you didnt explain with enough details your issue, so there is no need for insults.
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Take off the cover then put it back on. That's how I fixed it.