Zoom micro HDMI not able to output any subwoofer audio? - Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all, new to these forums and trying to figure out some information on the xoom and its "interesting" HDMI out. With my friend's transformer on mini HDMI out, he is able to output full audio to our receiver without issues. I cannot do the same with this tablet and the micro HDMI to HDMI cable I have. It outputs tinny 2ch audio only.
I also tried it on four other receivers at the local fry's. Same deal... I therefore figured it is either an issue with the cable I bought or the xoom itself. It would be great to get this working for videos and the like, but the real deal is something far greater: playing angry birds in an earth shattering, bass powered 100" home theater slaughter.
Thanks for reading!
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Well the quick way to narrow it down wuld be to try his trasnformer with your cable, or your xoom with his cable. My guess is that its probably the cable, cause I'm pretty sure we hooked a xoom up to the conferece room audio at work and it was incredibly loud bass and all...out of the blue, had the whole office wondering what was going on.
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Kcarpenter said:
Well the quick way to narrow it down wuld be to try his trasnformer with your cable, or your xoom with his cable. My guess is that its probably the cable, cause I'm pretty sure we hooked a xoom up to the conferece room audio at work and it was incredibly loud bass and all...out of the blue, had the whole office wondering what was going on.
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was that via HDMI or the 3.5mm jack on the top?

I would but unfortunately the xoom uses micro and the transformer uses mini. I ordered the official Motorola micro HDMI cable since it was $4 from amazon... if that doesn't work it has to be the xoom. Four high end receivers wouldn't give the same result like that. :-\
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what9000 said:
I would but unfortunately the xoom uses micro and the transformer uses mini. I ordered the official Motorola micro HDMI cable since it was $4 from amazon... if that doesn't work it has to be the xoom. Four high end receivers wouldn't give the same result like that. :-\
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Please let us know, if it's the cable, ill buy the moto official one, otherwise I'll just continue to be annoyed with it not working.
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Not sure if this could be the problem, but I have been unable to play 5.1 encoded videos on the Xoom. Any videos with 5.1 audio play at fast forward speed.

dbett said:
Not sure if this could be the problem, but I have been unable to play 5.1 encoded videos on the Xoom. Any videos with 5.1 audio play at fast forward speed.
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Have a look here. Its not only you....its alot of us.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14317252#post14317252

Well I just tried the HDMI cable and same result. Trash audio. I noticed the sub is putting out the tiniest amount of bass if I Max out the sub... but then I switch to the transformer and it absolutely bleeds bass. Its something in the xoom... I'm disappointed.
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Hi all,
I had posted a response in the other HDMI thread but think here may make more sense and even help some of you out. I use my Xoom with the Motorola micro HDMI to HDMI cable going from the Xoom straight into my Dell 21.5" HD monitor from the monitor i use the 3.5mm Audio out port straight into my powered JBL sub woofer which is also connected to 4 JBL speakers. I am getting a full and rich sound stage and for some shows or movies i actually need to turn the Bass down i hope this helps some of you figure out what can or can't be done using a HDMI cable and especially the Motorola cable which whilst it may not be the cheapest option at least for me is giving great results.
Marc

Yes... I have used that as well. It does work, but that does not excuse Motorola from making the HDMI work as it should. I don't always have a 3.5mm Jack to plug into. :-\
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@what9000
Sorry I'm a little confused by your post as surely the point is the Motorola micro HDMI to HDMI cable is working as it should as I'm not plugging the 3.5m jack into the Xoom but my monitor so if the Moto cable wasn't carrying the Bass the monitor out wouldn't and couldn't out put it. I thought what others where saying was that they were finding thier HDMI cables were not carrying the bass or maybe I have misunderstood that as the point as many also said they are not using the more expensive Motorola cable was that may be the cause. I realize in theory any HDMI cable should work but real life isn't always that simple.
Marc

Neither HDMI cable type nor manufacturer will make a difference in the number of audio channels played nor resolution of the video output of our Xoom.
If you're only getting two channel sound, then that's all the Xoom is outputting, which makes sense as there's only two channels in our audio system IIRC.

I basically isolated it down to the xoom. Four receivers, two cables and same result. The only thing that didn't change was the xoom. This is a bit underwhelming...
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You have to run audio out via 3.5mm jack to get good sound. You can run the hdmi to a dock with a audio out then plug some speakers into the dock and it will sound great, but not straight through the hdmi.
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[Q] Speakers/Docking stations

So hey, I'm searching for some good speakers or a speaker docking station to play music from my G2. Obviously there are an abundance of Ipod/Iphone speaker set ups. I was wondering what products you guys were using and what you think are the best for some outloud listening. Bluetooth streaming? Wifi? I don't even have a home computer, so I'm a little limited. Any feedback would help me out since it's almost Black Friday!! Thanks.
feelucky said:
So hey, I'm searching for some good speakers or a speaker docking station to play music from my G2. Obviously there are an abundance of Ipod/Iphone speaker set ups. I was wondering what products you guys were using and what you think are the best for some outloud listening. Bluetooth streaming? Wifi? I don't even have a home computer, so I'm a little limited. Any feedback would help me out since it's almost Black Friday!! Thanks.
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If you can't find a decent dock, you could get a 3.5mm to 3.5mm headphones thingy. Which is what I use for my iPod.
Plug one end into the phone, and the other into your TV. Win?
I must have been over thinking this, I'm gonna give that a go when I get home..only problem is my tv has weak speakers.This could be a good quick fix until I upgrade my system.
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DanWilson said:
If you can't find a decent dock, you could get a 3.5mm to 3.5mm headphones thingy. Which is what I use for my iPod.
Plug one end into the phone, and the other into your TV. Win?
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I tried this, but nothing..I have an Lg plasma and it dosen't have a specified headphone jack. I just plugged it into the two different spots that would fit the 3.5 mm. chord. One was for a controler, the other was rgb something. I might have done something wrong..Will it just play on any channel?
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feelucky said:
I tried this, but nothing..I have an Lg plasma and it dosen't have a specified headphone jack. I just plugged it into the two different spots that would fit the 3.5 mm. chord. One was for a controler, the other was rgb something. I might have done something wrong..Will it just play on any channel?
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For my TV, it has the following channels for input
Antenna, AV 1, AV 2, AV 3, Component, RGB, HDMI 1, HDMI 2, HDMI 3
For my TV I have to use RGB to get any sound.
Also check you aren't plugged into the TV's headphone jack.
No its not, Maybe my next one will be.
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Got it!! Thanks for your help..i was using the wrong chord..now I can do my laundry
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It's been a few months. Has anyone found anything? This Droid one looks simple/inexpensive.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938451&pf_rd_i=507846

TV-Out...does it work?

Does anyone know if TV-Out works with this phone? If so, what cable works?
Thanks for any help.
There is no TV-Out port on the Shift. Or am I misunderstanding something here?
On some phones, even though it's not advertised, the headphone jack has a video out section to it... A tv out cable for an ipod or zune (non touch screen versions for both) would work in that case, with rca outputs.
I have no idea if it's on this phone or not... Some phones have had it without advertising it
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danaff37 said:
On some phones, even though it's not advertised, the headphone jack has a video out section to it... A tv out cable for an ipod or zune (non touch screen versions for both) would work in that case, with rca outputs.
I have no idea if it's on this phone or not... Some phones have had it without advertising it
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Yeah for instance on my HTC Incredible it has TV out but is not advertised, so just wondering if anyone knows for sure, before I buy a cable.
Wow thanks for the info, I had no idea. Sorry if I sounded condescending.
But one from walmart, and if it doesn't work, take it back.
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Ruggerxpunk said:
Yeah for instance on my HTC Incredible it has TV out but is not advertised, so just wondering if anyone knows for sure, before I buy a cable.
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Purchased the DINC cables from amazon. They are advertised as microUSB.
However they are not. Will not fit Shift4G microUSB port.
Would love to know if this works!
They might have one through the micro usb, but I think it would most likely be the headphone jack type with the extra section for video, like for an old school ipod
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danaff37 said:
They might have one through the micro usb, but I think it would most likely be the headphone jack type with the extra section for video, like for an old school ipod
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So, Is anyone already tried it..? recently I install CM10 on the device, basically I compared the system with some local phone brand (IMO Discovery S88), it's already ICS Built in and capable to do TV Out through its headphone jack. Can our phone do it too..? hope anyone already test it or just give me some clue on how to do it.
ajs2677 said:
Wow thanks for the info, I had no idea. Sorry if I sounded condescending.
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I have no idea if this works but I love the fact that your pic is the cover of Disco Volante!
Hmmm.... very interesting. You know I never tried on the Shift. I do know that on my old TP2 it was not advertised. But it did work. I wonder if I still have those cables somewhere.
Try it i will
I still have a cable from my old TP, I will give it a go tonight and see what i can come up with as well.
I will try the headphone adapter from the TP as well.
keschub said:
I still have a cable from my old TP, I will give it a go tonight and see what i can come up with as well.
I will try the headphone adapter from the TP as well.
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Cool. Looking forward to your results.
iI tried
keschub said:
I still have a cable from my old TP, I will give it a go tonight and see what i can come up with as well.
I will try the headphone adapter from the TP as well.
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Ok so I tried last night with the cable I used on my TP and that did not work. Went to try the headphone Adapter from the TP but my micro usb adapter didn't fit. I will retro locate another adapter and try to modify it to fit and try again.

[Q] HDMI output, audio poor quality? SOLVED, see #32

Hi
I just got a UK Wi-Fi Xoom, and started out by installing 3.1 and tiamat 1.4 OC kernel on it.
Now i hooked it up to my amp/tv (Onkyo amp, Panasonic TV) but no matter what i played, the audio quality was really poor (no bass, sounded like 8khz mono). Actually the audio coming from the built in speakers sound better! The cable should be fine, as i briefly tried it with an Optimus 2X, and as far as i remember audio was fine...
Any ideas?
Edit: Solved! See #32
This might not be the best test but I hooked up my Xoom directly to the TV which outputs to a pair of Bose bookshelf speakers and Angry Birds sounded great.
What I found off was the color quality of the home screen and through Quick Pic and stock Gallery. Angry Birds looked and played fantastic. My 3 and 5 year olds were glued to the screen. To fix the color I probably need to play with the color settings on the TV...no biggie. Haven't tried a movie yet.
Hi
After i wrote this i tried connecting it directly to the TV. Same result... (crappy audio). I only tried movies/music, and not games, which really dosent matter that much
same problem for me, European 3G Xoom running 3.0.1
Image quality is good, audio very poor.
I have also noticed that the audio quality leaves alot to be desired when using the HDMI out. Granted I am playing them through my TV speakers, but it does seem to be of lesser quality then other sources like OTA TV. Colors also seem a bit off, or over saturated or something. Maybe playing with the TV color settings would help that.
But its still pretty cool that xoom has HDMI mirroring, I use it alot.
I have the same problem... Connecting the audio via the 3.5mm jack sounds great, but connecting via HDMI seems to only send 2 channel audio, with no bass, maybe even at a lower bit rate (not sure, but it sure sounds crappy).
Same issue here. The audio is also heavily clipped. I tried to adjust the volume on the XOOM to at least alleviate the clipping, but I found that the volume controls have no effect on the HDMI out volume (at least on Android 3.1 + Tiamat 1.5 GHz with GPU OC).
willverduzco said:
Same issue here. The audio is also heavily clipped. I tried to adjust the volume on the XOOM to at least alleviate the clipping, but I found that the volume controls have no effect on the HDMI out volume (at least on Android 3.1 + Tiamat 1.5 GHz with GPU OC).
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I can confirm that the volume controls also has no effect on the HDMI output volume on stock, non-rooted Xoom 3.1.
ok so it is not just mine... Now the big question is if it is every xoom that has this issue or if it is just a selection?
Iv been asking about his for weeks. The sound output is terrible. Hooked up to my Sony system, same as OP says, no bass whatsoever. Same exact sound at same volume played through audio jack is giving my neighbor a heart massage.
Im really disappointed because I was hoping to output some nice tunes and even films but audio quality is unbearable.
Stock UK 3G on 3.0.1.
I demand answers :-D
Macbots drool as I XOOM through the Galaxy to my hearts Desire.
alias_neo said:
Iv been asking about his for weeks. The sound output is terrible. Hooked up to my Sony system, same as OP says, no bass whatsoever. Same exact sound at same volume played through audio jack is giving my neighbor a heart massage.
Im really disappointed because I was hoping to output some nice tunes and even films but audio quality is unbearable.
Stock UK 3G on 3.0.1.
I demand answers :-D
Macbots drool as I XOOM through the Galaxy to my hearts Desire.
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I'm glad to see this thread too. I've asked about this in other threads and on other forums and the only type of response I get is something like "I hooked it up to my tiny TV and opened the radio Disney app and it sounded just fine!" So it's good to hear people with ears noticing what I've been noticing.
That being said, from what I've been able to research it's either a problem with honeycomb's media player app or honeycomb itself. I've looked at the kernel code and while I did discover that the sample rate is hard coded to 44100 for the audio (with a TODO note in there to make it configurable eventually) I didn't see any errors that would cause it, unless it has to do with the fact that the kernel driver is forcing it to 2 channels but it's possible that honeycomb separates the sub woofer channel which is then discarded by the lower level drivers. Another theory is that they apply some equalization to the sound to make it sound decent on the internal speakers and that sound equalization gets applied to HDMI out as well (but not headphone out). What do you guys think?
Would be interesting to see how other HC devices perform in this area, sound quality, and video quality over HDMI. That might help to pin point weather this is a HC issue or a Xoom hardware issue.
The other HC devices that could be tested:
Acer Iconia Tab -- NO HDMI out
Galaxy Tab 10.1 -- NO HDMI out (proprietary dock connector for video out?)
Tmobile Gslate -- NO HDMI out
Asus Transformer -- Yes (Mini HDMI (Type C))
FWIW the Asus Transformer has the HDMI port is on the device and not on the keyboard accessory.
Xooms HDMI is listed as: "HDMI Type D (HDMI 1.4) connector"
I wonder what the quality of the Asus Transformer has on HDMI out, I wonder if it even does full mirror mode.
Wait, serioulsy only one other HC device has an HDMI out? Strange.
I wonder how GingerBread or Froyo quality is with HDMI mirror, are there any android phones with out of the box HDMI out with mirror?
My EVO has HDMI out but it doesn't mirror out of box, I think there is way with custom roms/kernels to get EVO HDMI mirror working.
Droid X has HDMI but no mirror unless you root, and install a special APK.
Are there any android phones with HDMI out mirror?
pearl62 said:
I have the same problem... Connecting the audio via the 3.5mm jack sounds great, but connecting via HDMI seems to only send 2 channel audio, with no bass, maybe even at a lower bit rate (not sure, but it sure sounds crappy).
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Greetings. Same problem with HDMI....workable, tolerable with EQ on amp. However....steaming music through Tune In radio or any other service is where I have a problem with the 3.5mm. Music Beta starts automatically. No matter what I do I can't get it to stop.
Suggestions...workarounds? Do I need to root the thing and remove Music Beta and go third party?
The Acer Iconia A500 does have micro HDMI out
Hi all,
Sorry to go against the majority here but connecting the Xoom to my Dell 21.5" HD Monitor with a Motorola Micro HDMI to HDMI cable is bringing me great results the picture quality is stunning. For sound i use the Audio out on the monitor to take the sound to my JBL powered sub woofer and 4 speakers and this also sounds great and i can also use the volume controls on the Xoom to change the volume through the speaker system. Are you all using the Motorola cable or another make?
Marc
I have the same issue. Horrible audio unless I use a 3.5mm Jack. I want good HDMI out... :'(
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what9000 said:
I have the same issue. Horrible audio unless I use a 3.5mm Jack. I want good HDMI out... :'(
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Same here. As soon as I started playing a movie through HDMI out I knew something was wrong. Came on here for an explanation or a solution, guess its down to a software limitation?
someone should bring this up in the Motorola owners forum. The forum mod there, Mmat, is really good about addressing issues the community brings to light and telling the software team
Epedemic said:
Hi
I just got a UK Wi-Fi Xoom, and started out by installing 3.1 and tiamat 1.4 OC kernel on it.
Now i hooked it up to my amp/tv (Onkyo amp, Panasonic TV) but no matter what i played, the audio quality was really poor (no bass, sounded like 8khz mono). Actually the audio coming from the built in speakers sound better! The cable should be fine, as i briefly tried it with an Optimus 2X, and as far as i remember audio was fine...
Any ideas?
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you can take another HDMI machine to test your tv. the HDMI line is also very important. my xoom is run well in my sharp tv.
I have the same problem with the sound quality that I get when connecting my WiFi only Xoom to my HT system. I tried connecting to a Bose lifestyle V30 and I get sound but it is just flat. No bass what so ever and only get sound from my center speaker. I tried a different HDMI input in the Bose system with the same result. If I connect the Xoom via headphone jack to RCA imput it woks just fine and get good quality sound.
I tried connecting to a Denon AVR-2308CI and I get the same result that I get with the Bose system. I have used 3 different HDMI cables, including a Motorola brand. No difference. Picture quality is great in all cases but the sound is just flat.
Now the question is: Is this a hardware or a software limitation?

Droid Charge HDMI, how to?

How do I get the HDMI working on the charge? I don't see an option for it anywhere, and I didn't get a prompt when hooking up my phone to the TV
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plug the cable into your device and then into your tv it will work automatically. there is really nothing to be done on your end except making sure your tv is on the right input and you are using the correct cable.
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This is the cable I bought: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003VWYBC2
Works great, don't need to touch any settings; just plug in and go.
I did read that this cable has issues with HDMI 1.4 so if you have a brand new TV, you should look elsewhere.
I just picked up a cheap cable at Target. It works flawlessly. As started before, make sure the cable is hooked up to the right input, make sure the phones screen is on.
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http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10419&cs_id=1041913&p_id=7703&seq=1&format=2
What do u guys think of this?
I would suggest not taking a gamble with an adapter, which can always introduce extra problems, when you can get a complete 3' cable for less:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10253&cs_id=1025301&p_id=6973&seq=1&format=2
Or a 6' cable for about $1.50 more:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10253&cs_id=1025301&p_id=6974&seq=1&format=2
There are a bunch of other lengths and options on MonoPrice, as well, and whichever way you go you'll be better off than overpaying in a physical store.
Doesnt work?
I did this on my charge, plugged into phone and then tv. Still says no signal? Cable is brand new from monoprice. I am running a different kernel and ROM, could that be an issue?
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I did this on my charge, plugged into phone and then tv. Still says no signal? Cable is brand new from monoprice. I am running a different kernel and ROM, could that be an issue?
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If you're sure you're on the right input and wiggling the cable in the phone doesn't help you could have a bad cable. My first one crapped out within seconds of beginning to use it.
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Falcyn said:
I would suggest not taking a gamble with an adapter, which can always introduce extra problems, when you can get a complete 3' cable for less:
Or a 6' cable for about $1.50 more:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10253&cs_id=1025301&p_id=6974&seq=1&format=2
There are a bunch of other lengths and options on MonoPrice, as well, and whichever way you go you'll be better off than overpaying in a physical store.
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I have this cable and it works perfectly fine. Use it all the time now.
tbonepaint said:
I did this on my charge, plugged into phone and then tv. Still says no signal? Cable is brand new from monoprice. I am running a different kernel and ROM, could that be an issue?
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Your TV might not like the signal the phone is putting out. My tv, which is a dinosaur in terms of 1080p tvs (its actually the first one to market, and has a DVI input) is finicky with certain resolutions, and alas, my droid charge through hdmi does not work either. Try a different TV to rule out a bad cable...
Quick question. Does the image mirror the resolution of the phone? Because whenever I hook up my charge, it seems to be missing some area on the top and bottom but I'm thinking this is justthe resolution of the phone.
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[Q] can I charge and use HDMI out at the same time?

I recently picked up a ps3 dual shock and an HDMI cable for my HOXL. This pretty much turns my phone into a tiny game console. I'm wondering if it would be possible to charge and use HDMI simultaneously, via a splitter. That would be awesome, not only for gaming, but for movie rentals and netflix.
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plaster said:
I recently picked up a ps3 dual shock and an HDMI cable for my HOXL. This pretty much turns my phone into a tiny game console. I'm wondering if it would be possible to charge and use HDMI simultaneously, via a splitter. That would be awesome, not only for gaming, but for movie rentals and netflix.
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As far as I know you can, you can't use USB devices and HDMI though. Look on eBay for a MHL HDMI adaptor.. should be a dongle type thing that has HDMI on one end, a plug for your charger, and then the connection into the phone.
Will do. Thanks for the response.
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