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I am planning to buy the nexus s
I know that 9020 (Super AMOLED) is better than 9023 (SLCD)
but i dont have enough money to buy new 9020
i can buy with the money i have
3 Months Used 9020 (Super AMOLED) in very good condition or New 9023 (SLCD)
so which one u advice me to chouse
and thank you
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Without doubt, a brand new i9023 is the choice. That SLCD screen means much less battery consumption with almost the same quality than the SAMOLED one.
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i put there but no one reply
Arkaknio said:
Without doubt, a brand new i9023 is the choice. That SLCD screen means much less battery consumption with almost the same quality than the SAMOLED one.
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I am pretty sure it is actually inverse. Less battery consumption with the i9020.
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Great reading in the sun with the 9023, don't know about the 9020
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Arkaknio said:
Without doubt, a brand new i9023 is the choice. That SLCD screen means much less battery consumption with almost the same quality than the SAMOLED one.
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As far as I know SAMOLED consumes less battery, because black pixels doesn't use battery at all and also darker pixels needs less power than lighter pixels.
suboxide said:
Great reading in the sun with the 9023, don't know about the 9020
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9020 is brilliant in the sun, better than all LCDs I've seen, super or not.
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Guys, I have the SAMOLED version bought in the UK, and a friend of mine has the SLCD version, so I had some time to check the differences. First of all, the SLCD version of Nexus S, is in fact a bit thicker (!) than the SAMOLED version. As for the screens, his phone just depicts the white colour better, but my phone has more vivid colours overall. As regards the battery consumption, I don't believe there is a noticeable difference.
I have a i9023 and I had a SGS with SAmoled, this is what i noticed:
Power:
SAmoled drains almost nothing is you have complete black zones in your screen (f.i. black bg, black icons and so on). Whenever you have bright colors SAmoled drains like a truck.
SLCD has a quite linear power consumption regardless of your theme.
Using an UI like MIUI, which is light and bright, would be a suicide.
Colors:
SAmoled has a very deep black, very high contrast and crazy colors, that's true, but those are mostly false. You will never see, in real, so much saturated colors.
SLCD is a normal LCD, just a little better.
Overall SAmoled will make you feel better though.
Outdoor readability:
SLCD is just better, no matter what. With direct sun the only way to read a screen is a good backlight.
This is my experience
If the budget cap is large get the i9023
matticala said:
I have a i9023 and I had a SGS with SAmoled, this is what i noticed:
Power:
SAmoled drains almost nothing is you have complete black zones in your screen (f.i. black bg, black icons and so on). Whenever you have bright colors SAmoled drains like a truck.
SLCD has a quite linear power consumption regardless of your theme.
Using an UI like MIUI, which is light and bright, would be a suicide.
Colors:
SAmoled has a very deep black, very high contrast and crazy colors, that's true, but those are mostly false. You will never see, in real, so much saturated colors.
SLCD is a normal LCD, just a little better.
Overall SAmoled will make you feel better though.
Outdoor readability:
SLCD is just better, no matter what. With direct sun the only way to read a screen is a good backlight.
This is my experience
If the budget cap is large get the i9023
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i always use my i9020 with %0 brightness it doesn't matter indoor or outdoor using or night or daylight
Note:You can set the brightness to %0 with brightness widget without it it stuck at %8.
i haven't seen a SLCD Nexus s but i have seen the SLCD Desire and the colours are much more vibrant on the SAmoled and they really stand out but i would still say go with the i9023 just because it's new and probably has the warranty and all the documentation.
9020 or 9023 - I think they are equal - it's a question of personal taste.
If your budget is a little problem, try to buy a used 9023 - should be the cheapest one.
Here is mine: http://cgi.ebay.at/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190525532514&ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:AT:1123 (used it for 10 days...)
and there are many more..
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I have seen both lcd and superamoled versions and i think the quality is just a bit better in the i9020 super amoled screen
so as long as the phone is in a good condition i would say go for that one ...
I just ordered the att band nexus s i9020A and was curious if it has the AMOLED or S-LCD display. It hasn't arrived yet and I just red that some Nexus model have and don't have AMOLED. Just want some info.
I9020 means S-AMOLED.
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I9020 means S-AMOLED.
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That's what I thought originally, but I'm finding specs for the i9020A that say either SLCD or Super AMOLED. I know the i9023 is SLCD & the i9020T is AMOLED. Do you have info that can back up your statement?
Indeed, I also found features mentioning a S-LCD screen, so i don't know.
But why make a LCD version with I9020 reference ?
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Indeed, I also found features mentioning an S-LCD screen, so i don't know.
But why make a LCD version with I9020 reference ?
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Good question, it definitely had me crying lol. But I just saw this http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1023470.html & feel better now. It's has AMOLED. THANK GOD!
That is more logical.
So far, all the Canadian market ones have been AMOLED.
Si si correcto. The phone came and it is amoled.
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AFAIK, for all Samsung devices, model numbers i9xx0 come with S-AMOLED display and model numbers i9xx3 come with SC-LCD display.
I've confirmed this with actual hardware:
i9000 vs. i9003
i9020 vs. i9023
I can confirm. I have an I9020a in Canada and it is Super Amoled.
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what, how many models does exist? i'm swapping from desire hd, basically because the amoled screen. now i'm worried, i'll need to wait it arrives to check it! =o\\
is possible to point where each model is sold? And for god's sake, why make it with slcd? can't samsung supply its own models?
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And for god's sake, why make it with slcd? can't samsung supply its own models?
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Actually, no. For an international phone distribution, it's quite hard to get all those up and running with OLED's, because they can't produce as much displays as the number of demands. That's why they've gone with i9023 SCLCD.
Honestly with what Google is doing to samoled display, you'd probably be better off with a s-lcd display ...
My g2 has better colors then my nexus s does now....
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Raver27 said:
Honestly with what Google is doing to samoled display, you'd probably be better off with a s-lcd display ...
My g2 has better colors then my nexus s does now....
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You should be shot and killes for a statement like that. But I did notice the Captivate's Samoled is brighter/whiter than our Samsoled screens. It doesn't bother me becauseits easier on my eyes. The Captivate burned my retinas lol.
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thiagodark said:
what, how many models does exist? i'm swapping from desire hd, basically because the amoled screen. now i'm worried, i'll need to wait it arrives to check it! =o\\
is possible to point where each model is sold? And for god's sake, why make it with slcd? can't samsung supply its own models?
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The Sclcd passes government codes in most countries, amoled does not because it was not made there. Its all about GDP these days. But which model did you buy? Like you, I was thrown off when I foundoit about the models. I almost bought a i9020t for my at&t sim which would have capped me at 2g speeds... I did some research & bought the new Canadian release i9020a which works on at&t 3g bands (with an amoled display!!).
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Lol but its true...my poor ns looks horrible and makes my g2 look like the device with super amoled screen...
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The first problem I have with SAMOLED is that the greys have a red/purple tint in them. The blacks are gorgeous, but the greys are just drab except at full brightness. What I noticed is that in SAMOLED displays, as you reduce the brightness, the colors shift. Greys go to red/purple, whites to to dirty white, etc. The different colors do not change luminosity equally. Some colors stay brighter than others. SCLCD does not have this problem.
The other problem I have with SAMOLED is the PenTile pattern matrix. If you compare the i9020 (SAMOLED) and the i9023 (SCLCD) side-by-side, you will see the difference in the whites. The SAMOLED display has a very visible pattern to it. Also, if you view the Maps app, or any app filled with text, in both, the SCLCD has better readability.
Supposedly the SAMOLED+ displays use a regular RGB matrix, and the second issue should be resolved. But, I still want to see how/if the colors shift as you reduce the brightness of the display.
The only downside I have seen in the SCLCD is that blacks are not black at full brightness. Otherwise, it is superior to the SAMOLED in every other way. Viewing angles are comparable, and readability in sunlight is better with SCLCD IMO.
I wish the Nexus S had some kind of oleophobic coating on the screen. I am constantly wiping the oil off of the display. The Nexus One was better in this regard. I don't know if it had an oleophobic coating, but it was much less susceptible to skin oil, and easier to clean.
There are at least 4 models for Nexus S:
i9020A North American GSM frequencies. SAMOLED display.
i9020T T-Mobile and European GSM frequencies. SAMOLED display. (supposedly for US, UK and Canada only.)
i9023 T-Mobile and European GSM frequencies. SCLCD display. (supposedly for rest of world, though may be sold in US, UK and Canada.)
SPH-D720 Sprint EVDO + WiMAX. SAMOLED display.
TWiTCommander said:
The first problem I have with SAMOLED is that the greys have a red/purple tint in them. The blacks are gorgeous, but the greys are just drab except at full brightness. What I noticed is that in SAMOLED displays, as you reduce the brightness, the colors shift. Greys go to red/purple, whites to to dirty white, etc. The different colors do not change luminosity equally. Some colors stay brighter than others. SCLCD does not have this problem.
The other problem I have with SAMOLED is the PenTile pattern matrix. If you compare the i9020 (SAMOLED) and the i9023 (SCLCD) side-by-side, you will see the difference in the whites. The SAMOLED display has a very visible pattern to it. Also, if you view the Maps app, or any app filled with text, in both, the SCLCD has better readability.
Supposedly the SAMOLED+ displays use a regular RGB matrix, and the second issue should be resolved. But, I still want to see how/if the colors shift as you reduce the brightness of the display.
The only downside I have seen in the SCLCD is that blacks are not black at full brightness. Otherwise, it is superior to the SAMOLED in every other way. Viewing angles are comparable, and readability in sunlight is better with SCLCD IMO.
I wish the Nexus S had some kind of oleophobic coating on the screen. I am constantly wiping the oil off of the display. The Nexus One was better in this regard. I don't know if it had an oleophobic coating, but it was much less susceptible to skin oil, and easier to clean.
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No rant intended or anything but your infos are well outdated. Firstly the nexus s samoled version do not have the red/pink tint even on the lowest brightness. This was fixed by Google in the 2.3.3. This was not the only change in colour:hence you can find a lot of users complaining about the colour changes. Secondly, the nexus s do have an oleophobic coating on the screen.
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How does the sensation screen hold up against samsung I have seen samoled plus and its amazing how does the sensation compare
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Can this please be merged into one of those other threads where people care to talk about devices other than the HTC Sensation and comparisons and such.
Nice resolution and pretty crisp, but the colours and blacks seem washy when put side by side with my Galaxy S2.
This is about the sensation and the screen quality
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Can this please be merged into one of those other threads where people care to talk about devices other than the HTC Sensation and comparisons and such.
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Thank you I've seen your YouTube videos are you going to review the sensation
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Nice resolution and pretty crisp, but the colours and blacks seem washy when put side by side with my Galaxy S2.
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ttieder said:
Thank you I've seen your YouTube videos are you going to review the sensation
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I sure am , my unboxing and first look is up
I am going to be doing comparisons of the Galaxy S2 vs Sensation,
Nice will definitely be watching those does the qhd come close to the samoled color wise
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I got these in stock today and after playing around with it I was impressed by the sharpness of the screen - when you zoom into the text it is very similar to the iPhone 4. The SLCD is definitely better than a traditional LCD screen.
I still prefer the bigger screen on the Galaxy S II and the screen just looks so much nicer. The Super Amoled Plus technology is far superior to the SLCD in my opinion.
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I got these in stock today and after playing around with it I was impressed by the sharpness of the screen - when you zoom into the text it is very similar to the iPhone 4. The SLCD is definitely better than a traditional LCD screen.
I still prefer the bigger screen on the Galaxy S II and the screen just looks so much nicer. The Super Amoled Plus technology is far superior to the SLCD in my opinion.
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Doesnt the sensation have the bigger screen?
I think SLCD is better because it can work well at night
tidusuk123 said:
I got these in stock today and after playing around with it I was impressed by the sharpness of the screen - when you zoom into the text it is very similar to the iPhone 4. The SLCD is definitely better than a traditional LCD screen.
I still prefer the bigger screen on the Galaxy S II and the screen just looks so much nicer. The Super Amoled Plus technology is far superior to the SLCD in my opinion.
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How is the screen bigger there both 4.3 inch you mean in vertically right cause the sensation is 16:9 ratio gives a wider landscape experience.
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tidusuk123 said:
I got these in stock today and after playing around with it I was impressed by the sharpness of the screen - when you zoom into the text it is very similar to the iPhone 4. The SLCD is definitely better than a traditional LCD screen.
I still prefer the bigger screen on the Galaxy S II and the screen just looks so much nicer. The Super Amoled Plus technology is far superior to the SLCD in my opinion.
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there have to be a good reason if samsunx fans are almost all so silly
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I think SLCD is better because it can work well at night
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What d'you mean, works better at night??
(apologies if it's a huge fail to understand sarcasm on my part! )
stesa said:
there have to be a good reason if samsunx fans are almost all so silly
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So he have a GSII and a Sensation to compare and just because he prefer the Suped amoled Plus screen on the GSII he's a fanboy ? Does he really have to love a screen that he find weaker to not being considered as a fanboy ? I mean seriously just think a few more seconds before flamming anyone without any valable reason
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So he have a GSII and a Sensation to compare and just because he prefer the Suped amoled Plus screen on the GSII he's a fanboy ? Does he really have to love a screen that he find weaker to not being considered as a fanboy ? I mean seriously just think a few more seconds before flamming anyone without any valable reason
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Well I agree with you on this.... Everyone have their own opinion on what they like and dislike.
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So he have a GSII and a Sensation to compare and just because he prefer the Suped amoled Plus screen on the GSII he's a fanboy ? Does he really have to love a screen that he find weaker to not being considered as a fanboy ? I mean seriously just think a few more seconds before flamming anyone without any valable reason
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I think it wasn't about him preferring a screen over the other but about calling it BIGGER when they are both 4.3"
Yes, they have a different area due to aspect ratios but lets face it, the difference is almost negligible and many people don't even understand the difference, they just understand 4.3
solsearch said:
I think it wasn't about him preferring a screen over the other but about calling it BIGGER when they are both 4.3"
Yes, they have a different area due to aspect ratios but lets face it, the difference is almost negligible and many people don't even understand the difference, they just understand 4.3
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The fact is that though the sensation should have a larger display due to 16:9 ratio. Vertically and landscape.
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The fact is that though the sensation should have a larger display due to 16:9 ratio. Vertically and landscape.
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Yes and no. Larger area=definitely
Wider=yes
Longer=no
Remember, the more square a quadrilateral the greater the area for the same diagonal. But some people don't see that.
And as I said, some people don't look past the 4.3" or only focus on one of the dimensions. I didn't say he was right in his comment, just that I didn't think he was bashing on Stesa for liking the Samsung screen more, but rather because his statement of a larger screen APPEARS to be frivolous if you only consider the 4.3 (though Stesa is perfectly correct in saying it is bigger).
Its a personal preference, I have Nexus One and love the Amoled Screen, I have seen SAMOLED and SAMOLED + u wont see a lot of difference except brightness when going from Nexus One. Also OLED isnt really a mature tech yet, It needs a lot of generations to reach a perfectly good place. Has many issues right now though it looks beautiful
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Its a personal preference, I have Nexus One and love the Amoled Screen, I have seen SAMOLED and SAMOLED + u wont see a lot of difference except brightness when going from Nexus One. Also OLED isnt really a mature tech yet, It needs a lot of generations to reach a perfectly good place. Has many issues right now though it looks beautiful
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is that not where it is now-ish?
OLD -> AMOLED -> Super AMOLED -> Super AMOLED Plus???
I'm in the UK and about to buy the nexus s, just sold my xperia x10 (I will never buy an se phone), I want the SAMOLED version, is there any way of telling which is which?
Thanks.
I'm pretty sure that all nexus's are super amoled.
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I'm pretty sure that all nexus's are super amoled.
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The USA and UK version of the nexus s is super amoled, the european version is super lcd.
Buy a 10$ jewelers loupe and use it to look closely at the pixels on the display.
If it looks like the image found in the PENTILE article at wikipedia its a SAMOLED display. At the time of this post Only samsung makes SAMOLED displays and they only use pentile matrix, which does not look like any other display at high mag (led, lcd, amoled or otherwise)...
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The USA and UK version of the nexus s is super amoled, the european version is super lcd.
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Thank you for information ^^
Also, SLCD has dots that looks like dust has penetrated the seal of the screen and are collected under it.
SAMOLED when turned off has a nice darkish navy blue look to it.
I have heard that replacing samoled display with slcd do work with every Nexus s Model, so my question is, can i replace my Gt9023i(slcd) display with the amoled one??
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probably can...
but if you replace with original i9020 screen, maybe there's a gap in lower side screen, because i9020 screen is silightly smaller than i9023 one... hope it helps...