Cause of GB reboot and possibly prevent brick - Thunderbolt General

OK Guys and Gals, Here is what is going on with the radio issue. No Matter WHAT radio combos you may be using. As some of you may know by my earlier posts I live in a huge 4G network and never get anything, but 4G and (3G only for a min on boot) This is why I didn't have ANY issue's until I got curious and wanted to try something. On our tbolts, if you try to make a call while in 3G the 3G will drop out until the call is over. I went back to froyo, got pissed and went strait back to GB (doesn't matter what Rom as all the dev have clearly stated) when I did go back to GB things were tight as usual. worked like a charm. I used it as I normally would and everything was fine. upon a self induced restart, before my phone had a chance to obtain 4G (still in 3G) I decided to make a test call to see if the 3G would drop. It didn't. Quickly after I ended the call the phone booted in to bootloader. Thank God I had removed the GB RUU because I don't have a card reader to remove the RUU. I forgot to mention I do have the latest Rom Mgr and was able to get into recovery and simply reboot. After that reboot I would get to my home screen, but this time the 3G only would come up and then reboot. Time after time of rebooting I tried other things such as toggle radio to just grab 4G, then the phone rebooted again! upon the next full boot I quickly moved the original froyo radio strait to the sd card. And yet another reboot. This time I got a Rom Mgr error and noticed that Rom mgr was no longer flashed!!! I flashed it real quick because I knew another reboot was on its way. Rom mgr flashed and I told it to boot in to recovery. Thank **** I flashed Rom manager because if not I would be in continuous boots like the unfortunate others. Once in recovery I Realized that I had told my phone to go in to recovery via Rom mgr. and if I did a restore, the phone would have booted back up with my froyo rom but with the GB radio! so I told CWR to just reboot so I could tell the phone to go into recovery via the pwr restart option (thus not restarting after I flashed my froyo recovery) Once recovery of my froyo rom was complete I used ADB to reboot bootloader and SUCCESS! Bottom line you can not make a call while on 3G with any of the current GB radios, you gotta be quick, Make sure ROM mgr is actually flashed!!!! and hopefully can dump the froyo radio on to your SD card before an inevitable reboot happens! and have some ADB knowledge. I'm certain this is whats going on! People make a call while in 3G and its all down hill from there. So dont bother with telling radio settings to stick with one band. Once this happens, there is no turning back. Any questions PM me. I'm glad I tried this out before Vaca tomorrow with a FUBAR Tbolt
Hope this helps developers somehow. Good luck!
Also check a couple quotes from the development thread. Remember I'm going on vacation n won't be able to reply to many comments. Maybe just share your experience. Thank you
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The people with the reboots can't get to Rom manager or recovery or anything. It reboots even if you try to gget in Clockwork.

I live in a 3g only area and make calls all the time on 3g. I have myine set to cdma auto so its always on 3g and mine hasn't done it yet. I'm on the gb radio
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smalltownbird said:
I live in a 3g only area and make calls all the time on 3g. I have myine set to cdma auto so its always on 3g and mine hasn't done it yet. I'm on the gb radio
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Yes this is true because your phone doesn't try to toggle to the 4g lte radio
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corenojoe said:
The people with the reboots can't get to Rom manager or recovery or anything. It reboots even if you try to gget in Clockwork.
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They can't get into rom Mgr because they didn't notice rom manager needed reflashed right before first reboot.
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I live in a 4G area, was running GB Bamf rom. Made plenty of calls on 3G and on 4G lte. Never had this happen.

dopediculous said:
They can't get into rom Mgr because they didn't notice rom manager needed reflashed right before first reboot.
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OK, first off ROM Manager and Clockwork Recovery are two different things.
ROM Manager is an app and Clockwork is your recovery.
If your phone is bricked you can't get into ROM Manager because the phone will not boot up. They can get into Clockwork for...oh I don't know, maybe 2 - 5 seconds and they the phone reboots again. Ask me how I know
A bootloop is NOT your phone bricking, if it was I would have bricked many, many phones in my time. If when you press power and volume down your phones brings up the bootloader. If you select recovery and your phone brings up your recovery screen without bootlooping you are fine.

refresh my memory, my poor old brain is on overload from all the brick posts....
Aren't the "bricked" phones also unable to stay in hboot for more than a few seconds without rebooting? If so, then what the OP is stating is NOT the same thing others reported because he states he could reflash the radio, suggesting a stable hboot/bootloader.
Seems like if you've got a stable hboot, you're not truy bricked, as the first post here shows....

bp328i said:
Ask me how I know
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If you have a bricked device please go post in the stickied thread in app/dev.
Oh and OP - Paragraphs are a good thing. Just sayin...

bp328i said:
OK, first off ROM Manager and Clockwork Recovery are two different things.
ROM Manager is an app and Clockwork is your recovery.
If your phone is bricked you can't get into ROM Manager because the phone will not boot up. They can get into Clockwork for...oh I don't know, maybe 2 - 5 seconds and they the phone reboots again. Ask me how I know
A bootloop is NOT your phone bricking, if it was I would have bricked many, many phones in my time. If when you press power and volume down your phones brings up the bootloader. If you select recovery and your phone brings up your recovery screen without bootlooping you are fine.
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I ment while in rom Mgr to make sure cwr is actually flashed. Mine was then after reboot I noticed cwr was no longer there. In rom Mgr it just said what the current cwr would be if I choose to flash it. If people miss this after a stupid reboot, the next reboot may not be so kind...
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bp328i said:
OK, first off ROM Manager and Clockwork Recovery are two different things.
ROM Manager is an app and Clockwork is your recovery.
If your phone is bricked you can't get into ROM Manager because the phone will not boot up. They can get into Clockwork for...oh I don't know, maybe 2 - 5 seconds and they the phone reboots again. Ask me how I know
A bootloop is NOT your phone bricking, if it was I would have bricked many, many phones in my time. If when you press power and volume down your phones brings up the bootloader. If you select recovery and your phone brings up your recovery screen without bootlooping you are fine.
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In fewer words that's exactly what I was saying. Seems like he thinks Rom Manager is recovery.

distortedloop said:
refresh my memory, my poor old brain is on overload from all the brick posts....
Aren't the "bricked" phones also unable to stay in hboot for more than a few seconds without rebooting? If so, then what the OP is stating is NOT the same thing others reported because he states he could reflash the radio, suggesting a stable hboot/bootloader.
Seems like if you've got a stable hboot, you're not truy bricked, as the first post here shows....
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Mine was a TRUE bricked phone but my bootloader stilled would stay on. The bootloader screen was the only thing that would not bootloop. I was able to flash the stock RUU and stock bootloader and it still would not go past the splash screen.

funkybside said:
If you have a bricked device please go post in the stickied thread in app/dev.
Oh and OP - Paragraphs are a good thing. Just sayin...
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Mine was bricked last Saturday, I don't have the phone anymore. It's been sent off for repair. Lucky me gets to rock my DInc for the next 2 - 3 weeks, DAMN 3G is slow.

dopediculous said:
I ment while in rom Mgr to make sure cwr is actually flashed. Mine was then after reboot I noticed cwr was no longer there. In rom Mgr it just said what the current cwr would be if I choose to flash it. If people miss this after a stupid reboot, the next reboot may not be so kind...
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Your phone will still reboot without a recovery. There was an issue awhile back when I had my OG Droid with ROM Manager wiping out recovery. People would try to boot into recovery to fix something and oops no recovery.
You can flash a recovery image via adb.

bp328i said:
Your phone will still reboot without a recovery. There was an issue awhile back when I had my OG Droid with ROM Manager wiping out recovery. People would try to boot into recovery to fix something and oops no recovery.
You can flash a recovery image via adb.
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yeah, that was annoying. Believe that's when they told everyone to check the "erase recovery" option in the Rom Manager settings and that seemed to help.

PJnc284 said:
yeah, that was annoying. Believe that's when they told everyone to check the "erase recovery" option in the Rom Manager settings and that seemed to help.
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Really funny thing was that was going on right when the Froyo leak came out for the OG Droid and the first ROM I flashed I hated. So when I went to flash my nan-droid there was no recovery and I did not know about the issue so I ended up sbf'ing back to stock and rerooting again.

I have seen a bootloop on a phone that was not running GB or rooted. A guy I work with brought me his phone a few weeks ago and wanted me to let him use my battery to boot his phone. When I put my battery in and saw what it was doing i booted it into Hboot (of course S-on) so I couldn't do much for him. Of course the Verizon Tech's weren't much help to him either, but they did send him a CLN Device. You can pass this along to jcase as I don't have enough posts to be able to post in the DEV forum yet. I read and rarely post unless I believe I have something useful to add.

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Stock Inspire 4G won't boot past bootloader and will not enter recovery.

My dad came home from work today and his stock Inspire 4G has stopped working. Nothing has been done to it. It simply hard locked and turned itself off. Since then I can't get it to boot past the boot loader. Once it's in the bootloader it checks for the PG98IMG.zip and then doesn't respond to anything else. I have tried numerous battery pulls, connecting to the phone with ADB and so forth but no response from the phone. Any ideas? AT&T has shipped him a refurb, but I figured I would take a crack at it until then since his phone would probably be better than some random refurb.
Sad, seems like it's boot looping: on stock rom, no less. My options will void the warranty, though, as it entails installing custom roms:
1. Push a cooked rom by rooting it. The cooked rom should be clean, but it will be rooted, thus, warranty void.
2. Try looking for stock rom for the HTC Inspire, push that using ADB and have the bootloader use it. Hopefully, it should restore stock settings to your inspire and still be replaced through warranty (i wouldn't know, I haven't sent a rooted phone in to warranty yet)
If that fails, might as well call AT&T and say it's a dud.
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My dad came home from work today and his stock Inspire 4G has stopped working. Nothing has been done to it. It simply hard locked and turned itself off. Since then I can't get it to boot past the boot loader. Once it's in the bootloader it checks for the PG98IMG.zip and then doesn't respond to anything else. I have tried numerous battery pulls, connecting to the phone with ADB and so forth but no response from the phone. Any ideas? AT&T has shipped him a refurb, but I figured I would take a crack at it until then since his phone would probably be better than some random refurb.
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You could take the pd98img.zip from the ruu and it would do a clean install and more then likely boot the phone up, unless it is a hardware issue. I don't see the need to root it if all he wants is the stock rom.
Btw you can find the pd98img.zip in the guide stickied in the general section.
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Wait, how did you get into the bootloader if you dad's phone is stock?
same way you do on a rooted phone power plus volume down..I think you are confusing the bootloader with recovery.
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same way you do on a rooted phone power plus volume down..I think you are confusing the bootloader with recovery.
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No, I just didn't know you could do that on stock.
mudknot2005 said:
You could take the pd98img.zip from the ruu and it would do a clean install and more then likely boot the phone up, unless it is a hardware issue. I don't see the need to root it if all he wants is the stock rom.
Btw you can find the pd98img.zip in the guide stickied in the general section.
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I think I'll try this. I'm wondering if it's a hardware problem though. My dad just told me that yesterday it was losing signal and then he would reboot it and it would regain signal for a little while and drop it again. May be a radio problem.
LEAVE IT BE. There is no reason to monkey with it if you already got the refurb, just send it away. Just because you want to poke around like bill nye or something might end up costing your dad $450.
I Agree Leave it be
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Truculent said:
I think I'll try this. I'm wondering if it's a hardware problem though. My dad just told me that yesterday it was losing signal and then he would reboot it and it would regain signal for a little while and drop it again. May be a radio problem.
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hi, friends my problem is ike that too. I swithed on to Hboot and pushed to recovery. after that my phone can not read PD98IMG.zip, I wanna install stock rom by sd card but it can not read it. when I stand in it sd card with PD98Img, its "checking" then again staying on Hboot system. please help me how to do it?
Why not just take the stock ruu which installs from the pc?
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Bricked after all this time

I had a lunch TB4g and it just bricked today, I was running ShiftAOSP 1.2 (I believe unrelated) and the .802 radio (possible) but it will just go to the HTC screen and reset and keep trying to boot. I can get into HBOOT and FASTBOOT, I have tried to reflash a root friendly RUU but it didnt fix anything and still cant boot. Just giving you a heads up. I had it overclocked to 1.22, I had it in my car on the way home, sent one text, 23% battery and I plugged it into my CPU USB to charge for a little waiting for some friends to show up and that is when it went into bootloop. Heat was not an issue as I had used it minimally the whole day sending small texts. It did sustain a major G shock 2 days prior but no excessive G or roughness today. Since it can get into HBOOT it might be recoverable but thats to the devs to decide, I have the unlocked 1.04 hboot installed.
i doubt the radio caused it, but that sucks man. see if you can talk verizon into a bionic for a replacement.
Does it bootloop in recovery?
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JBO1018 said:
Does it bootloop in recovery?
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he wont be able to get to recovery, hes bricked. i had this sorta happen to me weeks ago but my phone recovered on its own. to say the least i put full insurance on it.
fixxxer2008 said:
he wont be able to get to recovery, hes bricked. i had this sorta happen to me weeks ago but my phone recovered on its own. to say the least i put full insurance on it.
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He said it boots to the splash screen and he can get into hboot. So I'm confused why you would think he couldn't select recovery in hboot and see what happens. If he already flashed a full stock RUU custom recovery will be gone tho.
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JBO1018 said:
He said it boots to the splash screen and he can get into hboot. So I'm confused why you would think he couldn't select recovery in hboot and see what happens. If he already flashed a full stock RUU custom recovery will be gone tho.
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if i were him id just replace it. i just hope my tbolt lasts until the vigor ships.
it will boot to hboot and not reboot, but it will not boot to recovery
Have you tried flashing one of the recoveries that were modified to install through hboot? you can take your sd card out, and using a computer, place the PG05IMG.zip (search here @ XDA) and place it on the root of the card, flash through hboot. then using the computer again, remove the PG05IMG.zip from the sd card and go back into hboot and select recovery. i had to do this not too long ago and it worked for me, maybe it will help you.
I pulled the battery and wont plug it in all night to see if it resets some error it maybe had, my new phone is delivered tomorrow so its not a big deal.
fixxxer2008 said:
if i were him id just replace it. i just hope my tbolt lasts until the vigor ships.
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I would agree. The whole reason I asked about recovery boot looping is because if it is thats pretty much identical symptoms everyone who had the boot loop of death "brick" thing had. If that is what the situation is I would get it s-on and get VZW to replace because I doubt he caused it.
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fillyo said:
All you cheap ****ers trying to get something for free, if he bricked, his loss. Period.
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Ditto. He probably told insurance he lost the phone and paid his $100 bucks.
People are so greedy these days. All for nothing and nothing for all.
Doesn't sound design like there was much effort to fix it either.
Questioned posted and shortly after a new one is on the the way?
Keep an extra phone around for instances like this.
Not everything is an insurance claim.
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You wonder why all the major companies are starting to hate people who root phones. Some people will flash a Rom everyday just to do it and if they miss up their phone they don't seem to care. Now do I think a thunderbolt is worth 700 bucks retail hell no it only cost about 125 to build. But people need to hit up these forums to try to fix their phones before they call Verizon. I read a few post of guys who buy bricks phone fix them and sell them so any bricked phone can be fixed as far as he said. Read up and don't be so quick to clear data as first sign of a problem. Always try what got me out of the bootloop of death.
1. Battery pull
2. Power and hold down volume button
3. Never and I mean never keep a radio stored on root of SD card after install this will cause Hboot to install radio and that is not what we want to do here.
4. Go to recovery
5. Under download folders in your SD card always keep a updated ROM of what ever ROM you are currently using or at least a stable build inside that folder if you are using AOSP keep a stable ROM that last worked for you so no data clear is needed if you are using Sense do the same.
6. I never flash a recovery at this point follow this it saved my phone. Clear cache, clear delvik, format system under mounts and storage.
7. Format is most important since it will not delete recovery if you need to try again. Go to install zip file, select zip file, and install your fresh ROM or a stable build I never have flashed a normal ROM or have I flashed back to a down graded GB ROM.
8. Reboot after ROM has flashed and your phone will boot correctly.
I hope this has helped it saved me a few times in boot loop of death. Stop clearing data you lose your recovery and stop flashing old GB ROMs thinking they will save you, it might but message me so I can say I told you so.
****NOTE also make sure you are updated to newest CWM there was a problem with bootlooping after flashing a kernel and maybe Rom. I had the problem with flashing a kernel sent me into a bootloop. Update or roll back.******
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The OP probably gets into recovery for a few seconds then bootloops randomly. If you are not bootlooping in hboot, you are not bricked. Find the stock ruu file and flash that through hboot. Although you will lose root, the phone should work again.
If it's bricked, throw it to the ground and stomp on it til it breaks and claim insurance..... That should piss some people off here
Seriously tho some guy mentioned something about a HBoot friendly RUU. You should look into it
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As far as I have seen the random and sudden boot loop of death thing has happend to rooted and stock phones. Leading people much smarter than me to come to the conclusion it is most likely caused by some kind of hardware defect existent in a lot if not all Thunderbolts. If he bricked it trying to flash an hboot from an Incredible or a bad flash because of not taking 30 seconds to check MD5 sums then I would put the blame on him. I'm not trying to condone fraud but if the situation is what I was thinking it might be he shouldn't have to pay because HTC got cheap on some build lots or had some bad quality control. Bootlooping from a bad flash and being able to get into recovery and restore is NOT the same thing I'm talking about. In the situation I'm refering to the ROM and recovery both bootloop. You can still flash an RUU in hboot but even after that the phone still bootloops.
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JBO1018 said:
As far as I have seen the random and sudden boot loop of death thing has happend to rooted and stock phones. Leading people much smarter than me to come to the conclusion it is most likely caused by some kind of hardware defect existent in a lot if not all Thunderbolts. If he bricked it trying to flash an hboot from an Incredible or a bad flash because of not taking 30 seconds to check MD5 sums then I would put the blame on him. I'm not trying to condone fraud but if the situation is what I was thinking it might be he shouldn't have to pay because HTC got cheap on some build lots or had some bad quality control. Bootlooping from a bad flash and being able to get into recovery and restore is NOT the same thing I'm talking about. In the situation I'm refering to the ROM and recovery both bootloop. You can still flash an RUU in hboot but even after that the phone still bootloops.
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He could not get into recovery cause he cleared data, can't get there is there is not one. And it didn't seem to me like he tried to flashed CWM from HBoot either.
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He could not get into recovery cause he cleared data, can't get there is there is not one. And it didn't seem to me like he tried to flashed CWM from HBoot either.
If he can't think of a way to fix it send it to me will have it running in a couple of google searches.
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I tried to get into recovery a few times before doing anything, it would just go black and reboot to the HTC logo. As a last attempt I tried to load a rooted a ruu, it installed but didnt not boot. I have the 1.04 modded hboot so I dont think I can overwrite recovery. Either way, contrary to your beliefs I will not claim insurance on it, although this is a warranty issue, these phones are dropping left and right. I just moved to tmobile this week and my sensation 4g and G2x are supposed to be delivered today.
Thanks for your ideas but I tried to reflash recovery and it installed through hboot but it will just reset before it loads. I still have s-off and my emmc was the sem08g. I am going to plug it in and just let it boot loop all day while I am at work, maybe it will get out, maybe it wont, either way is it wont hurt anything.

HTC Thunderbolt Issues - Stuck at HTC Logo... Recovery not working, etc...

here is my issue.
2 weeks ago, i rooted my phone. all was well. flashed CWM Recovery 5.0.2.1 for my Thunderbolt. I made a backup just before i rooted so that in case ANYTHING went wrong, it would unroot me and fix any problems. So, here i am, backing up apps with Titanium Backup, and it backed up fine. The next thing i did was start to uninstall HTC Bloatware... I knew which ones were the ones i could remove, plus even if i removed the wrong one, i could just restore using my image backup. After removal, the phone instantly ran better. i had over 65% free memory space... This was all well and good, until i rebooted the phone. the instant i rebooted my phone, i was getting the flashing HTC Quietly Brilliant screen. i had done NOTHING to it to cause this. It would alternate from HTC splash to Thunderbolt animation.
So, knowing what was wrong, (UI not loading) i went to recover my image from CWM. that went fine. but things just got worse. After a successful recovery (according to CWM) i rebooted, but to my surprise, now its worse. its stuck at the HTC boot logo. ALL MANNER OF ROMS DO NOT WORK!!! recoveries, new OS, anything, all the same result. AT LEAST with the thunderstick full blown ROM, i can get back to the looping splash screen, but not any further. i DONT KNOW what is wrong but i am hoping one of you mad phone geniuses out there can get my phone working. i tried getting s-off with revolutionary, but it failed because the phone has to be booted up for it to work, and is something i obviously cant do at this point... relocking the phone made things worse too because i unlocked using the HTCdev method.
This is not a boot loop, as it doesnt loop. it just sits there. i have tried every available resource on this, and other sites. i must have read over 1,000 posts in the past week to try and gather what the devil happened to my phone... If its any help, i did accidently delete the settings storage APK file, but a restore should have fixed that. i want to lock up the phone to send it in for repair but i cant gain s-off to flash a new radio with the phone in its current state. i know how to do all if these things but the phone wont let me.
Reformat the sd card to fat32 and flash an RUU file to put you back to stock.
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Does your computer recognize your device?
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i am nearly pulling my hair out...
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Reformat the sd card to fat32 and flash an RUU file to put you back to stock.
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any RUU downloads that would have been available on multiupload.com are disabled and redirects to to "the internet vs., holywood". besides, as i said, any attempt to flash any rom no matter what it is fails. Well, technically it FLASHES ok, but doesnt actually work. as far as i know, the phone has 2 bootloaders in any given android phone. There is the primary HTC Bootloader (Hboot) and a secondary ROM UI Bootloader. (Android Boot) i think what has happened is that this part has become corrupted and i wanted to know how to access this and reformat that. supposedly you cant because its partitioned, and formatting the partitions would fix my issue. problem is that i have done all of this. to answer the second reply, yes, i can get the phone to be recognized in any mode as long as its fastboot, or recovery. Fastboot.exe works, and adb recognizes it in recovery as being IN recovery mode. unfortunately, with my device still locked, i cannot flash a new bootloader, which might solve my problem. this is not like any issue currently on XDA so far as i read, so this is why i created a new thread.
I am sure the Moderators will agree that my problem seems to be unique. After reading what seems to be hundreds of forums, i cannot solve the issue. While technically i am a newbie here, i am no stranger to modding phones. i have been at it for over 4 years now. THIS problem is absolutely a first for me. At least before i could restore using CWM, but even that failed. i checked my MD5 Sum for CWM backup and it checked out.
If someone can provide me a link to an ORIGINAL, unmodded, RUU that shipped with the phone, (PRE OTA 2012) that ISNT that stupid file-factory corrupted crap, i would be extremely indebted to that person. last time i used File-factory, it took THREE hours and the download was corrupted according to CWM. it refused to flash the phone even though Chrome said it completely downloaded (Error: Bad - Installation Aborted). There was no MD5 SUM to compare with so thats also another problem. i absolutely need that info to properly flash the phone. All the other ROMS i downloaded like TSGB and Lightning Rom technically flashed fine after a full wipe, but refused to go past their own "Open Mobile" splash screen.
So you see, i am at a loss with this phone, as all i did was reboot after rooting it, and nothing i did could have possibly caused this kind of failure...
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any RUU downloads that would have been available on multiupload.com are disabled and redirects to to "the internet vs., holywood". besides, as i said, any attempt to flash any rom no matter what it is fails. Well, technically it FLASHES ok, but doesnt actually work. as far as i know, the phone has 2 bootloaders in any given android phone. There is the primary HTC Bootloader (Hboot) and a secondary ROM UI Bootloader. (Android Boot) i think what has happened is that this part has become corrupted and i wanted to know how to access this and reformat that. supposedly you cant because its partitioned, and formatting the partitions would fix my issue. problem is that i have done all of this. to answer the second reply, yes, i can get the phone to be recognized in any mode as long as its fastboot, or recovery. Fastboot.exe works, and adb recognizes it in recovery as being IN recovery mode. unfortunately, with my device still locked, i cannot flash a new bootloader, which might solve my problem. this is not like any issue currently on XDA so far as i read, so this is why i created a new thread.
I am sure the Moderators will agree that my problem seems to be unique. After reading what seems to be hundreds of forums, i cannot solve the issue. While technically i am a newbie here, i am no stranger to modding phones. i have been at it for over 4 years now. THIS problem is absolutely a first for me. At least before i could restore using CWM, but even that failed. i checked my MD5 Sum for CWM backup and it checked out.
If someone can provide me a link to an ORIGINAL, unmodded, RUU that shipped with the phone, (PRE OTA 2012) that ISNT that stupid file-factory corrupted crap, i would be extremely indebted to that person. last time i used File-factory, it took THREE hours and the download was corrupted according to CWM. it refused to flash the phone even though Chrome said it completely downloaded (Error: Bad - Installation Aborted). There was no MD5 SUM to compare with so thats also another problem. i absolutely need that info to properly flash the phone. All the other ROMS i downloaded like TSGB and Lightning Rom technically flashed fine after a full wipe, but refused to go past their own "Open Mobile" splash screen.
So you see, i am at a loss with this phone, as all i did was reboot after rooting it, and nothing i did could have possibly caused this kind of failure...
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https://dl.dropbox.com/u/61129367/Stock-ROM.zip
013CBDD3A9B28BC894631008FA2148E2
will this really work??!? lol
trter10 said:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/61129367/Stock-ROM.zip
013CBDD3A9B28BC894631008FA2148E2
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If this works, i will be forever grateful. and something that mere Custom ROMS wont do, is repair any boot issues and lock up my phone again right? i hope at least it fixes the issue.
new problem... i think...
cyberkeeper1 said:
If this works, i will be forever grateful. and something that mere Custom ROMS wont do, is repair any boot issues and lock up my phone again right? i hope at least it fixes the issue.
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ok. so the download finished fine so far as i know, but now CWM says ITS bad too. i will try again but i cant seem to flash any stock rom no matter if its OTA or pre-OTA from CWM. is there a way to flash a rom from the PC via adb or something?
Ohh! They're not flashed through CWM. They're flashed through hboot. Just rename it to PG05IMG.zip and put on SD card and boot to hboot it will ask you to flash
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i will try that. previous hboot flashes always fail. it reads the archive, but never goes to "checking zip". it loads, checks, and then parses. i was successful with my evo shift earlier today, but that thing is ancient compared to my thunderbolt. With the Shift, i was able to gain root AND s-off with an old bootloader and i dont even need a new one.
i wanted to do the same with my bootloader in case another disaster hits because then i can flash whatever RUU i want with s-off. i will make sure the MD5 SUM matches before flashing. i forgot to do that anyhow.
Hboot flash failed. went through the motions of scanning it and it scanned the whole thing and then did nothing. it returned me to Boot Choices. Like Fastboot, recovery, etc... i tried twice. are you absolutely certain that is the shipping firmware that formats the entire phone, and not just updates it? i cant send it to verizon even though they know it was illegal to lock up my phone... Anyhow, i realy need this thing working and i have racked my brain enough to damage it already... lol. if it fails again i will try to redownload it. So far it loads and does NOT ask me to start the update. could be a version issue because it does not complain about anything else.
Have you tried following the instructions in the return to stock thread in the android development section stickies? This may help you.
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Have you tried following the instructions in the return to stock thread in the android development section stickies? This may help you.
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yes i have. i cannot do what it asks because it requires my phone to be functional to flash it using hboot. i need a signed copy of an older RUU. hboot doesnt do anything with it. its a valid copy, and i can see all the images and contents in windows and linux, but all i can get hboot to do is read it, then it doesnt ask me to update. i dont know what to do now.
I believe there is a ruu image without hoot download there.
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Try http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Mecha
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ok well i will literally try ALL of the signed images. i will see if hboot will update it.
If your hboot is flashed with revolutionary I believe you have to unlock it before anything thing else can be flashed over that. Hboot or emmc could be corrupted as well.
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How i fixed my tbolt stuck at the white HTC screen
I had this exact same problem literally yesterday (stuck at HTC screen) with some different cwm symptoms. I'm guessing my cwm was corrupted because the phone would reboot after about 30 seconds being in cwm, preventing me from flashing any roms. oh, and my backup image was corrupted as well. awesome. Flashing other CWMs did not fix the CWM problem.
Your problem sounds similar in the fact the CWM won't flash properly. You're trying to fix it by trying to flash a rom in HBOOT that isn't configured to be flashed that way. for example, i put the skyraider rom (named properly) in the root folder and tried to flash with HBOOT. it scanned and parsed but didn't give me the option to flash.
What I did was go here and grab a stock like image:
androidforums.com/thunderbolt-all-things-root/418539-thunderbolt-root-unroot-thread.html
(won't let me make a link, i'm too new)
Go to the "Putting current stock firmware and s-on back onto the phone" section.
Download file 1 and flash it using HBOOT. I had to pull my sd card to get the file on there since cwm was crashing. Only flash that rom and nothing else. It flashed for me; if it doesn't flash for you then maybe your HBOOT is corrupted, and if so i don't know if you can fix it.
Once that flashes, reboot the phone and it should return to some level of functionality. You'll have S-off but no recovery or root tools installed. I ran revolutionary at this point, which recognized i already had S-off...then it offered to load CWM. This i did. in the meantime i deleted the unrooted image and put the image of the rom i wanted on the sd card. i then booted into recovery(it won't flash in HBOOT) and loaded that rom (skyraider zeus). That worked fine and the cwm didn't crash out.
I hope this works for you. I was getting ready to fire back up my OG droid before i did this.
mpcapps said:
I had this exact same problem literally yesterday (stuck at HTC screen) with some different cwm symptoms. I'm guessing my cwm was corrupted because the phone would reboot after about 30 seconds being in cwm, preventing me from flashing any roms. oh, and my backup image was corrupted as well. awesome. Flashing other CWMs did not fix the CWM problem.
Your problem sounds similar in the fact the CWM won't flash properly. You're trying to fix it by trying to flash a rom in HBOOT that isn't configured to be flashed that way. for example, i put the skyraider rom (named properly) in the root folder and tried to flash with HBOOT. it scanned and parsed but didn't give me the option to flash.
What I did was go here and grab a stock like image:
androidforums.com/thunderbolt-all-things-root/418539-thunderbolt-root-unroot-thread.html
(won't let me make a link, i'm too new)
Go to the "Putting current stock firmware and s-on back onto the phone" section.
Download file 1 and flash it using HBOOT. I had to pull my sd card to get the file on there since cwm was crashing. Only flash that rom and nothing else. It flashed for me; if it doesn't flash for you then maybe your HBOOT is corrupted, and if so i don't know if you can fix it.
Once that flashes, reboot the phone and it should return to some level of functionality. You'll have S-off but no recovery or root tools installed. I ran revolutionary at this point, which recognized i already had S-off...then it offered to load CWM. This i did. in the meantime i deleted the unrooted image and put the image of the rom i wanted on the sd card. i then booted into recovery(it won't flash in HBOOT) and loaded that rom (skyraider zeus). That worked fine and the cwm didn't crash out.
I hope this works for you. I was getting ready to fire back up my OG droid before i did this.
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I have read that post you provided probably 100 times its not working for me. flashing a custom rom actually got me past the HTC white screen and into a splash screen loop (Open Mobile). Also, I havent even been able to use the REV tool because my phone is not recognized by it without it being fully functional. you have to be fully booted up for the REV tool to use adb and start the process. thats why i need a signed copy of an older ROM with hboot flashing capability so i can fully restore my phone. i am 100% sure its a corruption issue, but i am out of clues as to how to actually get it to flash over while being s-on. with the evo shift it worked perfectly. it only took me 20 minutes to root, s-off and flash a custom rom. this phone has been a thorn in my side ever since i accepted that STUPID FOTA... i regret not knowing before hand what that OTA was and what it prevented. Now i know, too little / too late.
without s-off, i cant unlock hboot to flash it, and the fastboot mw whatever command failed also because its locked tight.
lemew said:
If your hboot is flashed with revolutionary I believe you have to unlock it before anything thing else can be flashed over that. Hboot or emmc could be corrupted as well.
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thats what i thought. is there a way to change out that eMMC, or remove it to format it manually? i mean based on the description, its technically external which implies removable.
Yes you can format emmc I do not know if this will solve your problem. You wipe abd format through adb but need to see if it is being mounted first.
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Yes you can format emmc I do not know if this will solve your problem. You wipe abd format through adb but need to see if it is being mounted first.
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too bad i cannot repartition it to allow for more RAM instead of app space. i dont care about app space because i have a 32gb card... lol. i just want that phone to be faster than what it is currently once i finally get it running.

[Q] htc inspire 4g stuck in clockwork recovery mod and cant acess hboot

hi all, i am a novice at all this stuff, and i am sorry for posting probably a similar thread to what others may have said but my problem is a little different. i am having a problem with my wifes att network htc inspire 4g. i rooted it last year with the ace hack kit. the problem is that it is stuck in ace hack kit clock work recovery. it will not start up at all unless it is attched to the computer, and thats when it will go to cw recovery. it will vibrate 3 times and blink a red led and the screen goes blank unless i press the volume down button but it doesnt stay lit up only when i hit the vol down button. then when i hit an option by hitting the power button the phone resets to cw recovery again. if i try to acess hboot, it vibrates 5 times and lights up yellow. i have tried wiping, formatting, and everything but reboot to cw recovery again. from the posts that i have read similar to this problem, everyone says to get another rom and flash from hboot. being that i cant get to hboot any other ideas.
lonewolf9387 said:
i have tried wiping, formatting, and everything
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If you wiped and formatted, then you've probably erased whatever ROM you did have. At this point I'd probably use the ACE Hack Kit again, using the option to return everything to stock.... then use it again to re-root the phone. Then I'd install 4ext Recovery instead of CW. Then use 4ext to flash another ROM. I'd recommend Ice Cold Sandwich, found in the DHD development forum.
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fatboyRICH said:
If you wiped and formatted, then you've probably erased whatever ROM you did have. At this point I'd probably use the ACE Hack Kit again, using the option to return everything to stock.... then use it again to re-root the phone. Then I'd install 4ext Recovery instead of CW. Then use 4ext to flash another ROM. I'd recommend Ice Cold Sandwich, found in the DHD development forum.
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ok but i cannot get the computer to recgonise the phone. and with clockwork messed up and h boot not working how would i go about doing that?
lonewolf9387 said:
ok but i cannot get the computer to recgonise the phone. and with clockwork messed up and h boot not working how would i go about doing that?
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What happened when you used AAHK? Were there any error messages? Was your phone shipped with Froyo or Gingerbread?
bananagranola said:
What happened when you used AAHK? Were there any error messages? Was your phone shipped with Froyo or Gingerbread?
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This is my wifes phone. She said that she didn't get any error messages that she knows of. She went to use her phone one day and it was stuck in clockwork recovery. I believe the phone had froyo installed when it came factory but I updated it to the att gingerbread before I rooted it. The phone worked fine till just recently. Was there another update from att recently? Any who that's where it is stuck. No error codes just the lights like I explained above. Thx
lonewolf9387 said:
This is my wifes phone. She said that she didn't get any error messages that she knows of. She went to use her phone one day and it was stuck in clockwork recovery. I believe the phone had froyo installed when it came factory but I updated it to the att gingerbread before I rooted it. The phone worked fine till just recently. Was there another update from att recently? Any who that's where it is stuck. No error codes just the lights like I explained above. Thx
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There was an update from AT&T recently. Did she apply that update? Is that when the problem started?
bananagranola said:
There was an update from AT&T recently. Did she apply that update? Is that when the problem started?
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That's probably what happened. If she didnt iniate it then it probably auto updated. She's not to technical about that stuff she probably ly was hitting button's like she does. Any ideas on what to do from here. I could probably get a older romantic for it but the way it is now I can't flash it.
Best guess is to flash a ruu.
Try uninstalling the htc drivers (if you have them) and install them again to see if the computer recognizes the cell.
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Ok ill try that when I get a chance tonight and get back to you. Hey thanks for all the help guys.
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[Q] Clockworkmod Recovery updated, can't enter recovery mode

Hi, I've searched and can't find an answer. I've managed to root my Infuse and got Infinitum rom installed. It was working great until just this evening when Clockworkmod updated (sorry, I can't find the version number). It went into a boot loop. It took me a bit, but I managed to get it out of the boot loop and back to stock, now it's rooted again with Infinitum running again.
I'm trying to get back to a recovery point that I do have on the phone, but I can't get the phone to boot to recovery no matter what I do. When I try using the vol and power buttons combination or from ROM manager I get the same thing. It goes past the stock Samsung logo into the Galaxy S/Cyanogen(mod) logo, but freezes there.
I can, of course, take the loss of my setup and redo everything manually. I would really prefer to be able to get that backup back. I'm also concerned should I ever need to get into recovery mode for any other reason. My guess is that I need to downgrade the CWM version, but I haven't been able to find how to do it.
Can anyone give me any help? Please let me know if there's info that I can give that would be useful...I'm noobie, I know!
VyCariously said:
Hi, I've searched and can't find an answer. I've managed to root my Infuse and got Infinitum rom installed. It was working great until just this evening when Clockworkmod updated (sorry, I can't find the version number). It went into a boot loop. It took me a bit, but I managed to get it out of the boot loop and back to stock, now it's rooted again with Infinitum running again.
I'm trying to get back to a recovery point that I do have on the phone, but I can't get the phone to boot to recovery no matter what I do. When I try using the vol and power buttons combination or from ROM manager I get the same thing. It goes past the stock Samsung logo into the Galaxy S/Cyanogen(mod) logo, but freezes there.
I can, of course, take the loss of my setup and redo everything manually. I would really prefer to be able to get that backup back. I'm also concerned should I ever need to get into recovery mode for any other reason. My guess is that I need to downgrade the CWM version, but I haven't been able to find how to do it.
Can anyone give me any help? Please let me know if there's info that I can give that would be useful...I'm noobie, I know!
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There are many layers to your questions.
You may need to read a bit more to get a better understanding.
Here is two points I can offer that may be helpful.
1. Don't use ROM Manager for the Infuse.
2. To downgrade a cwm version, you will need to flash a GB or FROYO kernel in download mode via heimdall or odin. You can also use any one of the return to stock that is flashed in download mode also.
If you think you lost recovery, try flashing the kernel for the rom you were running in cwm, if you can get back into cwm again.
qkster said:
There are many layers to your questions.
You may need to read a bit more to get a better understanding.
Here is two points I can offer that may be helpful.
1. Don't use ROM Manager for the Infuse.
2. To downgrade a cwm version, you will need to flash a GB or FROYO kernel in download mode via heimdall or odin. You can also use any one of the return to stock that is flashed in download mode also.
If you think you lost recovery, try flashing the kernel for the rom you were running in cwm, if you can get back into cwm again.
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I believe you about the ROM Manager. Too late, unfortunately. I'll take it off.
I had the phone back to stock with Odin. I went through all of the steps that I went through to first root it and install Infinitum. I had red cwm at the time. I just can't seem to get into it now. I don't think I lost it, I'm just unsure of how to get to it, since it freezes at the cm startup. I can just power off from there after I give up waiting, and it will boot to ICS normally when I power it on normally. I have Titanium Backup Pro, and it can access the nandroid backup that I have to get the apps and data. I was just hoping to recover the whole setup. I had an issue last weekend (oops to me) when I tried to install a JB rom where it went into a boot loop. I recovered everything after backtracking like I did tonight, and was hoping to be able to do the same. Is there any hope, do you think, if I go back and return to stock and start over from the beginning again? If not, I'll just suffer and redo the whole thing.
By the way, I really appreciate you answering. I've been lurking for a few weeks, and realize that you know a LOT about these phones.
VyCariously said:
I believe you about the ROM Manager. Too late, unfortunately. I'll take it off.
I had the phone back to stock with Odin. I went through all of the steps that I went through to first root it and install Infinitum. I had red cwm at the time. I just can't seem to get into it now. I don't think I lost it, I'm just unsure of how to get to it, since it freezes at the cm startup. I can just power off from there after I give up waiting, and it will boot to ICS normally when I power it on normally. I have Titanium Backup Pro, and it can access the nandroid backup that I have to get the apps and data. I was just hoping to recover the whole setup. I had an issue last weekend (oops to me) when I tried to install a JB rom where it went into a boot loop. I recovered everything after backtracking like I did tonight, and was hoping to be able to do the same. Is there any hope, do you think, if I go back and return to stock and start over from the beginning again? If not, I'll just suffer and redo the whole thing.
By the way, I really appreciate you answering. I've been lurking for a few weeks, and realize that you know a LOT about these phones.
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Okay, so next question. I've been reading and searching and reading some more. I can get the phone back to stock and work up again, but I still reach a point where it will freeze on the Samsung/CM startup screen. In reading the Infinitum Project thread, I found this (yes, it's pretty easy to find):
"Recovery/CWM messed up?
Here is how to fix it...
1) Download uclb3 heimdal by qkster
2) open the program
3) put phone in download mode
4) click flash (leave program open when finished DO NOT CLOSE)
5) after it finishes and your phone reboots, put the phone back in download mode and reconnect to PC
6) click flash bootloader on the heimdal program you left running
7) flash, let reboot and your recovery problems should be gone"
I used that to get back to stock before...doesn't that remove the root? Do I have to go through all that, then the bootloaders, and then go back and root all over again to get back to a working CWM? I'm sorry to ask so many questions, but it seems that I've done most of this already, though I admit to not doing the flash for the bootloader. I'm just unclear since it says "your recovery problems should be gone" at the end of that, like I have to do nothing more.
That does remove root access. However, root isn't really necessary, at least for the stock ROM, if you have no intentions of staying stock. The ROM .zips you'll subsequently flash are pre-rooted. After you Heimdall back to stock, and flash it again with "flash bootloaders" selected, then use Heimdall to flash this kernel:
http://d-h.st/6KA
That'll flash both a new kernel and CWM Red recovery. It'll take a few minutes to boot up the first time, as it's installing the lagfix. Once it boots up, just shut it down and boot back up in recovery. From there, you can do whatever you need to do.
VyCariously said:
Okay, so next question. I've been reading and searching and reading some more. I can get the phone back to stock and work up again, but I still reach a point where it will freeze on the Samsung/CM startup screen. In reading the Infinitum Project thread, I found this (yes, it's pretty easy to find):
"Recovery/CWM messed up?
Here is how to fix it...
1) Download uclb3 heimdal by qkster
2) open the program
3) put phone in download mode
4) click flash (leave program open when finished DO NOT CLOSE)
5) after it finishes and your phone reboots, put the phone back in download mode and reconnect to PC
6) click flash bootloader on the heimdal program you left running
7) flash, let reboot and your recovery problems should be gone"
I used that to get back to stock before...doesn't that remove the root? Do I have to go through all that, then the bootloaders, and then go back and root all over again to get back to a working CWM? I'm sorry to ask so many questions, but it seems that I've done most of this already, though I admit to not doing the flash for the bootloader. I'm just unclear since it says "your recovery problems should be gone" at the end of that, like I have to do nothing more.
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As Apex pointed out, each time we bring the phone back to stock, we lose root access and all the previous setup. It's a fact of flashing.
No big deal though, rooting is easy and is not really needed. What is needed is the insecure kernel with cwm. The link Apex gave you is the same as the posted kernel in post #2 of the thread. That kernel will give you the cwm. Review that thread if you haven't yet.
Flash the heimdall uclb3 repartition package. Immediately after it successfully boot your phone, don't close the program. check the bootloader box and put the phone back into dl mode and flash it again to get your gb bootloaders...
then flash the kernel.
review my how to thread if you need to.
Andros11 also made a how to for JB if you want to live vicariously.
gl
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Andros11 also made a how to for JB if you want to live vicariously.
gl
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Thanks guys
It's been a crazy busy week and I just didn't have time to deal with the phone. I've been dealing with stock gingerbread. It's getting kind of annoying, though, it seems less stable than the custom ICS that I had on it before. Not sure when I'm going to have time to play with it again and try to get it to where I want it. I think I'm going to try to totally wipe all of the old stuff out of the memory before I do it again, though. There's something that wasn't allowing me to do what you guys are telling me to do successfully. I'm also thinking of finding a GS2 and just selling the Infuse, not because of my confusion, but because the GS2 was what I was originally looking for anyway.
I'll try to get this one set up first, though, as it's just a matter of me being obsessive about it.
qkster, I'll look into the JB, too, lol.
qkster said:
As Apex pointed out, each time we bring the phone back to stock, we lose root access and all the previous setup. It's a fact of flashing.
No big deal though, rooting is easy and is not really needed. What is needed is the insecure kernel with cwm. The link Apex gave you is the same as the posted kernel in post #2 of the thread. That kernel will give you the cwm. Review that thread if you haven't yet.
Flash the heimdall uclb3 repartition package. Immediately after it successfully boot your phone, don't close the program. check the bootloader box and put the phone back into dl mode and flash it again to get your gb bootloaders...
then flash the kernel.
review my how to thread if you need to.
Andros11 also made a how to for JB if you want to live vicariously.
gl
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Hey I am not the Infuse user... But I faced similar problem in my xperia some days back after updating the recovery.
I was also not able to enter recovery at boot time using my usual volume down way...
What the change was the new recovery checks for tap on the screen (repeatetive) instead of volume down button...
Not sure if it will work or not for you... But you can give a try...
Hit thanks if it works
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XperiaNeoVNoob said:
Hey I am not the Infuse user... But I faced similar problem in my xperia some days back after updating the recovery.
I was also not able to enter recovery at boot time using my usual volume down way...
What the change was the new recovery checks for tap on the screen (repeatetive) instead of volume down button...
Not sure if it will work or not for you... But you can give a try...
Hit thanks if it works
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I didn't get a chance to try it, sorry! I ended up wiping my phone totally back to stock Gingerbread with nothing on the sd card, either, and starting all over again. It seems to be working really well this time (fingers crossed). RemICS-UX is pretty much awesome
VyCariously said:
I didn't get a chance to try it, sorry! I ended up wiping my phone totally back to stock Gingerbread with nothing on the sd card, either, and starting all over again. It seems to be working really well this time (fingers crossed). RemICS-UX is pretty much awesome
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No probs...
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