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[Q] Gtab Touchscreen Issues?

So I was at my local staples today and found that they had a fully functional display model of the GTabl on the shelf.
I proceed to pick it up and start checking it out and look at settings and other functions only to find out that I can't get the thing to read my touch on certain parts of the screen. mainly in the settings menu.
I proceed to do a factory reset and try again to no avail. It was as if the hole thing had lost the ability to read touch other than on the far left and bottom side in landscape mode.
Up till that point I had been fairly interested in buying one but not so much now.
Is anyone having problems with touch response of their GTab or was that display model just royally screwed already?
Thanks,
May still be interested in buying if feedback is good.

i have some unresponsiveness in the stock rom. tnt lite is better, zpad seems to be much better so far and the rom is like a phone's more so everything is more familiar. but yea its most likely the tapntap that viewsonic has on there making it unresposive and laggy.

What crimton said. I don't really have any responsiveness issues with the touchscreen in ZPad ROM. Only exception is when it first wakes up for about 10 seconds. If you know Android and are willing to try custom ROMs and hack around a bit the device is great. Issues are mostly with tap n tap UI.

Thanks for the information everyone. I still am on the fence but all of everyones information helps in making that final decision.

Download Touch Test free app
Handango.com has a free app called Touch Test that shows screen response & sensitivity.
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[Q] Possibly Mechanical Question regarding screen blanking.

I've recently playing around with my Desire, and I noticed something a little odd, which I'm hoping someone who knows hardware better than me can answer. With most of them (specifically, RCMixS although I saw it happen with another,) when I press the power button to shut down/lock the screen, the screen does something unusual. Normally, when you do this, the screen blanks at once, all pixels simultaneously. With the custom one, it has a similar effect to the old-style CRT tvs/monitors (screen blanks from outside to middle, leaving middle line which then narrows and vanishes. Difficult to describe in words, but if you know old TV's, you'd have seen it.)
Question is, is this a side-effect of the software being a little too beefy for the classic desire's hardware to fully handle, or is it likely to be a bug?

LOL, it's a feature. It was introduced in Gingerbread and is well liked, which is why you'll also find it in custom ROMs. As you said, it is supposed to mimic an old CRT.

DirkGently1 said:
LOL, it's a feature. It was introduced in Gingerbread and is well liked, which is why you'll also find it in custom ROMs. As you said, it is supposed to mimic an old CRT.
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Colour me embarrassed. I was searching on screen blank rather than screen off
Ah well. I must say I'm going to buck the trend in that I actually prefer the old way. Ah well. Nothing stays the same Thanks for the heads-up.

Mouse cursor

Is there a way to select or install a different mouse cursor for our transformers?

I would love to know the answer to this as well...I would almost think about rolling back because of the pointer chance.

Wintergon said:
I would love to know the answer to this as well...I would almost think about rolling back because of the pointer chance.
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I'm still on 3.1 (I have to wait untill August 2nd), I don't like that one... But I've read that it changed in 3.2? what does it look like now (if you could post a screen)?

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I'm still on 3.1 (I have to wait untill August 2nd), I don't like that one... But I've read that it changed in 3.2? what does it look like now (if you could post a screen)?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16101545&postcount=51
FWIU, if you use a mouse, the cursor will be the same as the old one.

r_nt said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16101545&postcount=51
FWIU, if you use a mouse, the cursor will be the same as the old one.
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So it's that round thing? Looks a little bit nicer than the stock one...
But there is no way to change it to a custom one?

SparkyRih said:
Looks a little bit nicer than the stock one...
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Agreed. It just needs to be a bit smaller for pointing precision. It seems like when you see people with fat fingers trying to press buttons on a really small touch-screen... frustrating.

I like the new circle cursor, makes it easier to see what you are clicking on. The old one was too small and looked tacked on, was jaggedy etc, this one looks built in and nice.

I hate it. I bought the dock for a laptop like experience. To use the touch pad like I would on a laptop for editing, selection and such. I didn't buy it to be an extension of a toy and mimic a finger press. That makes no sense. And it makes no sense to treat a usb or bluetooth mouse different than the trackpad. If they're going to change it then give us a choice, otherwise, leave it alone. A bad arrow is better than no arrow. At least that felt precise.

poltak11 said:
Agreed. It just needs to be a bit smaller for pointing precision. It seems like when you see people with fat fingers trying to press buttons on a really small touch-screen... frustrating.
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I'm happy with it, and I don't think it needs to be any smaller to be precise. It's pretty easy to comprehend where the center of the circle is, I think. It's also a log easier to spot on the screen than the arrow cursor.
It would be nice to have a choice, though, for those folks who prefer the arrow.

The circle is not the problem technicly, when u scroll it seperates from itself, and scrolling is very very very jittery and laggy now, if u dont put two.fingers reallllly close together then u get the zoom option that hardly works aswell by just zooming by a little bit, its just a very horrable mess, again if they just switched to the circle and everything else was the same, not a big deal,

Got my 3.2 update today, and I like this mouse pointer a lot...
But I still think they should make the trackpad more customizable... I just got used to the way it scrolled, now it's different again...

SparkyRih said:
Got my 3.2 update today, and I like this mouse pointer a lot...
But I still think they should make the trackpad more customizable... I just got used to the way it scrolled, now it's different again...
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and the mouse doesnt control google maps the same as the damn 'gestures' option does.
doh
come on asus, just change the icon

mouse pointer after 3.2 update

Hi guys
After the 3.2 update i have very strange mouse pointer
Can I change this?
Thanks

yes the circle pointer lol nobody has made a mod to change it back as of yet.

i think if you use a BT/USB mouse it goes back to the normal pointer...
why they thought a circle was better is beyond me.

i really don't understand what are they thinking about

No offense to the OP, but IMO people need to search more before posting new topics. This is roughly the 23rd thread on the crappy new circular pointer. If for no other reason besides ease of reviewing information, consolidating your comments within an existing thread on the topic is beneficial to everyone.

The circle lets you see how the touchpad is detecting inputs when you're doing gestures. Other than that, it seems pretty useless. Just some fancy fx thing.

adiliyo said:
i think if you use a BT/USB mouse it goes back to the normal pointer...
why they thought a circle was better is beyond me.
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Because it also shows your trackpad gestures, I really like it, and can definately see a benefit with it over a regular pointer.

MAKES THIS THING USELESS FOR RDP/VNC!!!!
Man, Asus has been good about stuff, but this is the worst idea ever.

The new pointer is just awful. I was hoping to see a fix for it already

Circle pointer is more intuitive than the original pointer, when used for gestures, scrolling, clicking etc. It simulates ones actions on the screen, on the trackpad. It ofcourse changes to the normal pointer when using external mouse. I have been quite impressed with its usefulness but then horses for courses. Just use it for a while, and your horizons may broaden

SugarPuff said:
Circle pointer is more intuitive than the original pointer, when used for gestures, scrolling, clicking etc. It simulates ones actions on the screen, on the trackpad. It ofcourse changes to the normal pointer when using external mouse. I have been quite impressed with its usefulness but then horses for courses. Just use it for a while, and your horizons may broaden
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+1
I really hope don't make a rash change to the new pointer (which I like), based off a few people that "don't get it"...
For those of us that "do get it", seeing the gestures is invaluable.

Rather than "rash changes", why not give us the option to change it back?
Hide it in the Settings page if you want, but I thought Android was supposed to be about choice and customisation, not just "Do things our way and like it".
If that was the attitude I was interested in, I'd have sold my soul to the iCult of Jobs by now.
All that posturing aside, I had about 3 minutes with the new cursor before RMAing my dock, so I haven't had a lot of time to see if it gets better with use.

Mr.Clark said:
Rather than "rash changes", why not give us the option to change it back?
Hide it in the Settings page if you want, but I thought Android was supposed to be about choice and customisation, not just "Do things our way and like it".
If that was the attitude I was interested in, I'd have sold my soul to the iCult of Jobs by now.
All that posturing aside, I had about 3 minutes with the new cursor before RMAing my dock, so I haven't had a lot of time to see if it gets better withio use.
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Choice an customisation is all there, where would you like me to start, but then a line has to be drawn somewhere wouldn't you say? It's not like iphone/ipad where one is only allowed to change the icon position on a screen, is it now?
Regards your RMAing the dock after 3 minutes; not enough time. Should have given it atleast 5 minutes

SugarPuff said:
Circle pointer is more intuitive than the original pointer, when used for gestures, scrolling, clicking etc. It simulates ones actions on the screen, on the trackpad. It ofcourse changes to the normal pointer when using external mouse. I have been quite impressed with its usefulness but then horses for courses. Just use it for a while, and your horizons may broaden
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CrazyPeter said:
+1
I really hope don't make a rash change to the new pointer (which I like), based off a few people that "don't get it"...
For those of us that "do get it", seeing the gestures is invaluable.
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I can see the usefulness, but have you it makes scrolling in the browser jerky and annoying, as if you don't move your fingers perfectly straight, it zooms in and out. It also is incredibly non-precise when doing anything in an RDP/VNC app.
I'm all for giving a one button click in the settings that will give me my old one back. Just because it has a few benefits (gestures) that some of you like, does not mean that it is great for everyone.

Well for some of you who don't like it they would either have to use external mouse or play with it, hoping that Icecream Sandwich/Asus FW would grant them their extra setting. For the time being though they are lumbered with it. Simples tch tch
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iIts complete rubbish why have a mouse pad that dose the same as touching the screen? why not just use the screen i wanted the dock to act like a laptop its way to big to click anything precisely. stupid scrolling switched around its just pure gay if u ask me hope someone comes out with a hack

tay200k said:
iIts complete rubbish why have a mouse pad that dose the same as touching the screen? why not just use the screen i wanted the dock to act like a laptop its way to big to click anything precisely. stupid scrolling switched around its just pure gay if u ask me hope someone comes out with a hack
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I've found myself using the screen a LOT more since the 3.2 update. Trying to use the trackpad is rather batty IMHO.

At least put crosshairs in the circle.

I think it's a lot better, much to my surprise. Aside from the vertical scrolling that is very counter intuitive with a trackpad, it has several awesome advantages... the pointer stays in place when scrolling, the scrolling actually WORKS (try it on 3.1 with Tapatalk, then agree with me), it dosen't lack precision as after all, it's in the center of the circle that the click will originate. Pinch to zoom is cool and I rarely get it instead of scrolling.
All in all I like it, and I also agree that this sort of things needs a setting to be restored as it's unavoidable to piss off many users.
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^^ I agree, the circle is fine. I actually liked it a lot. Just wish the circle is a bit smaller, that's all.

Android big design problem.

hi guys...
since i started using an android phone i've been surprised of how the interface is poorly designed for the comfort of the user, one of the major issues for me is the "back button", and the problem is a lot worst with phones with screens over 4". everytime you need to go back you have to move your finger to the lower part of the phone where this button is located and if you dont have big hands it is very uncomfortable, it is even painful after a while,
i think that those buttons should be removed from android, now with ics and jellybean there is that software buttons that keep the same problem and also are a waste of space on the screen.
every app should have its own "back button" in some place that is easy to reach with your finger like the apps for the iphone ( dont kill me for using the iphone like an example in this particular aspect).
what do you guys think???

rodmc123 said:
hi guys...
since i started using an android phone i've been surprised of how the interface is poorly designed for the comfort of the user, one of the major issues for me is the "back button", and the problem is a lot worst with phones with screens over 4". everytime you need to go back you have to move your finger to the lower part of the phone where this button is located and if you dont have big hands it is very uncomfortable, it is even painful after a while,
i think that those buttons should be removed from android, now with ics and jellybean there is that software buttons that keep the same problem and also are a waste of space on the screen.
every app should have its own "back button" in some place that is easy to reach with your finger like the apps for the iphone ( dont kill me for using the iphone like an example in this particular aspect).
what do you guys think???
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Well, iPhone has the back button embedded in the app and many are saying they need to implement dedicated back key in their phones. So its all about personal choice bro.
And I don't think Android needs to remove the back key and if you've used an iPhone you would know the hassle using it without a back button. Many iOS apps have back key located at various areas in their UI. So a normal user, who don't have much experience in using smartphones would get confused easily. But if dedicated back key is there, it makes all easy.
EDIT: Regarding the ICS/JB soft-keys option, if the manufactures think its a waste of space, they can simply disable it by modifying a line in one of the xml files. And if they decide they need not have to give their phones any hardware/capacitive buttons, they'll enable it. So google have given this feature as optional, and why would anyone think of removing that handy feature.

coolsandie said:
Well, iPhone has the back button embedded in the app and many are saying they need to implement dedicated back key in their phones. So its all about personal choice bro.
And I don't think Android needs to remove the back key and if you've used an iPhone you would know the hassle using it without a back button. Many iOS apps have back key located at various areas in their UI. So a normal user, who don't have much experience in using smartphones could get confused easily. But if dedicated back key is there, it makes all easy.
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i think the back button is useful, but this is an ergonomic problem.. i think having a back button in the app it is a better solution, the waste of space on the screen also sucks, and i doubt that some pepole could be confused by a button with a back-arrow icon on it

rodmc123 said:
i think the back button is useful, but this is an ergonomic problem.. i think having a back button in the app it is a better solution, the waste of space on the screen also sucks, and i doubt that some pepole could be confused by a button with a back-arrow icon on it
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After all, everyone gets a User-Manual with their phones. And every people that have paid for their new shiny phone would die to boot up fast and they'll look around, and by looking around they can easily know, the arrow stands for the Back key. :silly:

rodmc123 said:
i think the back button is useful, but this is an ergonomic problem.. i think having a back button in the app it is a better solution, the waste of space on the screen also sucks, and i doubt that some pepole could be confused by a button with a back-arrow icon on it
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The main problem of the iphones back button is, is that sometimes it had different words, its in different places within the app, and its not simply a back button sometimes.
For example, when I use the keyboard on iOS, I have to tap on an area in the screen to close the keyboard, whereas on android its just a simple tap of the back button. Its just extremely consistent and I found myself tapping the empty area next to the home button on an ipod touch more than a few times expecting there to be a back button.
Although I have never used something as big as the One X, I imagine it would be hard (as you said) to reach the button without risking dropping the phone. But then I guess you buy a phone that fits your hand size, not something too big that you know will be a hassle
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If you use your left hand to hold the phone, why can't u use your little finger of your left hand to press the back button (it's convenient to me)
If u use the right hand, u can use the thumb of the right hand to press back.
Just my advice, no offence

rodmc123 said:
i think the back button is useful, but this is an ergonomic problem.. i think having a back button in the app it is a better solution, the waste of space on the screen also sucks, and i doubt that some pepole could be confused by a button with a back-arrow icon on it
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You sound a bit like the commercial for the iphone5 with all that trollin arround here :laugh:
The 4" the sane size for a phone!!! -like speech etc.
If you don't like it you don't buy it. What is all that wining???

chaki- said:
You sound a bit like the commercial for the iphone5 with all that trollin arround here :laugh:
The 4" the sane size for a phone!!! -like speech etc.
If you don't like it you don't buy it. What is all that wining???
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this is not an iphone vs android discussion.. i do not say the back button is not useful the thing is that the location of the button is very uncomfortable in devices with a big screen if you dont have huge hands.
i like 4,3" and 4,7" screens thats why i have a 4,3 screen.. but with the back button down there, atleast for my hand size, it is very annoying to use.
really nobody else noticed this issue?? i mean your finger is most of the time at the middle of the screen and from there you move it like a compass to the upper and lowwer part of the screen, now take a phone with a 4,3 (or bigger) display and try to do that, you have to use your other hand or you have to somehow move the phone so the bottom (where the back button is located) is reachable for your finger and in that process you can drop the phone or end up with tendinitis after a long time of use.

Mitch_Faiz_555 said:
If you use your left hand to hold the phone, why can't u use your little finger of your left hand to press the back button (it's convenient to me)
If u use the right hand, u can use the thumb of the right hand to press back.
Just my advice, no offence
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sorry but what you say does not make any sense, your "little finger" might be ridiculously large and flexible to do that.
chaki- said:
You sound a bit like the commercial for the iphone5 with all that trollin arround here :laugh:
The 4" the sane size for a phone!!! -like speech etc.
If you don't like it you don't buy it. What is all that wining???
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do you know what is constructive criticism?? i like android, i like my phone i just wish they can improve the back button thing.. is that too much for you?

Personal preference. I like the dedicated back and menu buttons.
Never had a problem with them, makes switching or going through apps much faster than having to locate the back button on each app (which is not always obvious where they put it)

I'm asian. My fingers are relatively smaller than you guys but for me the buttons are very convenient to use. Mine is the S2.
Navigation bar is not a waste of the screen. Why? Because it's not just back key. There are recent apps and home too. For a futuristic full touch phone without any buttons, what do you expect for the alternatives of those 2 other keys? Gestures? That will be hard to be used.
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problem solved in ICS/JB

rodmc123 said:
sorry but what you say does not make any sense, your "little finger" might be ridiculously large and flexible to do that.
do you know what is constructive criticism?? i like android, i like my phone i just wish they can improve the back button thing.. is that too much for you?
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It's really is a personal choice.
I personally love the back button, have no problems using it with one hand, nor do with GF with her small hands and Optimus 4X HD, which is a larger phone than my Galaxy S2. Both of us cite the back button as a large factor contributing to the usability of Android.
If you don't like the back button, you can always switch to the iPhone. This is such a rare complain that I must say that you, OP, are in the sheer minority.
To add on, the fact that Windows Phone implements a back button as well shows that this is a feature that is beneficial rather than detrimental as you believe.

Logi_Ca1 said:
It's really is a personal choice.
I personally love the back button, have no problems using it with one hand, nor do with GF with her small hands and Optimus 4X HD, which is a larger phone than my Galaxy S2. Both of us cite the back button as a large factor contributing to the usability of Android.
If you don't like the back button, you can always switch to the iPhone. This is such a rare complain that I must say that you, OP, are in the sheer minority.
To add on, the fact that Windows Phone implements a back button as well shows that this is a feature that is beneficial rather than detrimental as you believe.
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i repeat, im not saying the back button is not useful!! all im saying is that the button is not well placed it is just an ergonomic problem.
for example, it would be a lot more easy to reach if they move to button to the side of the phone (contrary to the volume buttons), i know it sounds like weird place to put it, but if you take your phone you will notice that is a place where you always could easy reach the button without using your other hand or move the phone.

I like the back button too. As I don't need to rely on app developer to setup a back button

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i repeat, im not saying the back button is not useful!! all im saying is that the button is not well placed it is just an ergonomic problem.
for example, it would be a lot more easy to reach if they move to button to the side of the phone (contrary to the volume buttons), i know it sounds like weird place to put it, but if you take your phone you will notice that is a place where you always could easy reach the button without using your other hand or move the phone.
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You could use this app (requires root though) :
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.smart.swkey
It provides on screen functionality for navigation keys, which could be placed anywhere on the screen of your choice.

rodmc123, may I aks what device you are using? I believe it's also a manner of the ergonomics of the device itself. Many flagship devices have large screens and while design is nice, ergonomics may lose. I use the HTC One S momentarily (planning to rid it when new Nexus phones appeal), which is 2.56 by 5.15 inch, with a (screen) diagonal of 4.3 inch. That's too large for me to handle with one hand. Even though I'm not having much trouble using both hands most of the time, I do find it inconvinient I have to.
And indeed, there's the software button vs hardware button discussion. I believe it is simply mostly due to the ergonomics of the device itself, and depending on the OEM, software overlays creating additional bugs. Again, I'm a HTC user, got quite a bit of these stupid design flaws myself.

I can see the OP's point here, I started of with an HTC Hero which had quite a unique design with it's angled "chin" It was just the right size for one-handed operation. I upgraded to an HTC Sensation, being left handed, I run into trouble reaching the home button with my thumb. In fact using all the Hardware buttons at the bottom of the device does require shifting upwards in my palm.
It's got me wondering, would the hardware buttons be better off at the top? This being Android of course we don't need to wonder, we can try it out! Cyanogenmod for example allows full 360 rotation, although I might have to hack the Launcher a little bit to move the static app bar, I'm sure there was a setting for that pre-cm9, No matter it's just a case of editing the source or the layout xml. I'll just have to get used the upside down symbols.

Senzune said:
rodmc123, may I aks what device you are using? I believe it's also a manner of the ergonomics of the device itself. Many flagship devices have large screens and while design is nice, ergonomics may lose. I use the HTC One S momentarily (planning to rid it when new Nexus phones appeal), which is 2.56 by 5.15 inch, with a (screen) diagonal of 4.3 inch. That's too large for me to handle with one hand. Even though I'm not having much trouble using both hands most of the time, I do find it inconvinient I have to.
And indeed, there's the software button vs hardware button discussion. I believe it is simply mostly due to the ergonomics of the device itself, and depending on the OEM, software overlays creating additional bugs. Again, I'm a HTC user, got quite a bit of these stupid design flaws myself.
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i have a motorola atrix 2.. anyway i dont think its the ergonomics of this particular device, i think any phone with a big screen would have the same issue with the back button placed at the bottom.
like i said, at the opposite side of the volume buttons would be the best place if you think of the position of your hand and your fingers when you are holding the phone.