Just wondered if anyone was using their Transformer for reading ?. I have a kindle but it would nice if I was able to sell it and use the transformer for my main reading device.
I guess the screen wouldn't be ideal for the eyes but the plus point would be that you could use it to read at night without the need of a light. Also the interface is nicer than the kindle, but the weight is substantially more.
Any thought's ?
Comics look very nice, but if you want read only texts then keep the Kindle.
I read books all the time in portrait mode, works well.
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I read books all the time in portrait mode, works well.
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How long do you read for on average and do you feel any strain on your eyes ?.
I dont have my transformer yet, but read books using the kindle app on my archos 101 all the time (similar size and inferior screen). I usually dont read for more than 30 mins to 1 hour at a time though. I dont find the weight a problem.
you can change the brightness and contrast in the app as well as the page colour, so that its easy on the eyes.
It's not bad for reading books (but change the background to gray, because the white it too light on Transformer even on lowest brightness) but e-ink is just so much better it's hard to compare. For comics / PDFs - it's very good.
The screen is difficult to see outside during the day. And if it is in direct sunlight the screen is unreadable.
Anyone use google books ?, looks awesome and you can have 2-pages on screen simultaneously unfortunately its US only
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Anyone use google books ?, looks awesome and you can have 2-pages on screen simultaneously unfortunately its US only
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I have tried out Books, the stock reader, Aldiko and Moon+. Of those 4 I like Moon+ the most. I would like Aldiko except that it FCs like crazy for me. So try Moon+ if you want an upgrade from the stock reader but can't get Books.
+1 for Moon+, clean, quick orientation/night mode switching. It doesn't have useless page flipping animation and displays a single page in a linear fashion (more like a long scroll than pages of books). This makes it easy to read as the font is huge, better than two page at a time imo. Maybe I just like ebooks and never liked the feel of real books.
I've briefly read a magazine using the Nook for Android app. Very impressed with it. I had the Zinio app on my iPad and this works just fine in comparison.
I have an original Nook for ereading and prefer it because my eyes strain if I read text on a backlight display for a long time. For me personally, reading on an eInk display will always be optimal but I could read on a tablet without a problem, so long as it is not for more than an hour at a time.
I've been using Cool Reader for a while now. Works great. Has a 2 page setting, and you can have different page patterns/colors.
I mostly use Kindle app, since most of my books are from there, and I like auto-sync between all my devices. By the way, do you know that you can sideload .mobi books in Kindle app (just copy them into /sdcard/kindle, it'll pick them up on next restart)?
For other formats like ePub, I use FBReader. Though these days I prefer to convert ePub to MobiPocket so that I can read all books in Kindle app (not because I like it more, just because single book index is more convenient).
That said, it's definitely far more convenient to read from the real Kindle. E-Ink screen makes a big difference as far as eye strain goes, and the light in the cover is good enough to read at night.
My primary use for the TF is reading. I read the first 3 game of thrones books on it. I'm sure the Kindle would be a better choice for straight-up ebook reading, but the TF fares quite well for what it is. Just know the limitations compared to eink, and I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. The main advantage of the Transformer is that it is more "multipurpose."
I just want to say that eye strain was not a problem - I read 10 hours straight one time with the Mylibrary app, draining the battery xD. I used the app "screen filter" in the dark to lower the brightness even more. I'm used to staring at screens for long periods of time, so your level of eye strain may differ.
Yeah last night i was reading clash of kings and my eyes started to hurt after an hour or so at minimum brightness. It was still far too bright. I stumbled on screen filter. That's the key. If my eyes weren't allready hurting i think i would have been ok using that app. We'll see tonight.
I really like the presentation of the stock library app, it just needs more features like being able to change page color. And i'd give anything for a reader app that would put a series of books into the proper order without having to edit all the data in calibre.
Now if i could just get google earth working that would be the last of my gripes with this tablet.
Last night I read several chapters of the Adventures of Sherlock Holmes using the stock reader (downloaded from the Gutenberg Project). Works great for me but it is large and heavy compared to most dedicated readers. I don't mind but I did notice the weight after a while. If you were thinking of buying this mostly as a reader you would probably be better off with the Nook or Kindle.
P.S. the sharp edges were a little uncomfortable too... not terrible, but enough that I noticed.
I do A LOT of reading, and here's how my usage breaks out:
1. Completely mobile: when I'm, e.g., waiting for a lunch order to be ready, I read on my Samsung Epic, primarily using the Nook app.
2. At home: when I'm at home and reading fiction for longer periods, I tend to use my Nook 3G.
3. At work: when I'm at work, I use my TF simply because I don't take my Nook with me.
4. Reading non-fiction: when I'm reading something where I might need to take notes/highlight, I use the Nook app on the TF.
5. In sunlight: when I'm reading in direct sunlight (I live in SoCal), I use the Nook.
Great thing is, the Nook apps all stay in sync for last page read, highlights, notes, etc., and so it's an incredibly seamless experience to go from one device to another. I've done more reading in the last six months than I've done in the last six years, just because I can make use of empty time so much better. I pretty much stopped playing casual games and use that time for reading.
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So, I lucked out this christmas and recieved a Transformer, a welcome upgrade from my nook color. I've been looking all day to no avail for an ebook reader that'll do two page landscape for PDFs. I used Aldiko on my NC and was totally happy with that, but this screen is just so much bigger... feels awkward reading one page at a time.
So does anyone know of an app that might fit these criteria?
I use the stock MyLibrary app and use Calibre on my desktop to convert my books to epub format, works quite well for me.
Cool Reader has that and more. The UI is kinda crappy, but the features pay it off. Also it's free
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Ireader is a good one
Fbreader does it as well.
Fbreader is great,but crashed very often.
Perfect Viewer has a two-page mode for CBRs or PDFs
I use the stock MyLibrary. I find it useful as the font size can be increased or decreased as needed, you can also read in two page or single page mode (depending on the orientation of the tablet).
wow, thanks for all the suggestions. Is there anything caliber esque that I can use from honeycomb? I'm away from my main computer for a few more days
Hey all,
I'm looking into the possibility of using my Xoom as my daily computer and making a current PC more of a home theater setup in the living room. I don't do anything heavy on the computer (besides occasionally gaming but no big deal) it's all mostly web browsing, IMing, Facebook, etc, so I don't see too much of a reason why I couldn't do this.
My question is this: Have any of you done it? Made the switch from the PC (or mac) being your primary computer to the Xoom? If so, thoughts? Anything to pay attention to? If I do go through with this, I will end up getting a bluetooth keyboard and mouse, I'm sure... but I'd rather not waste 100 bucks on something I end up not using often.
i use my laptop just to root my xoom =)
Anything I should pay attention to, or an accessory that will make a huge difference or anything? Besides the bluetooth keyboard/mouse, obviously.
thank you for the reply, but I already have a xoom... just trying to decide if it is feasible to use as an everyday computer.
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This thread and the linked thread reminds me of the discussions an older man like myself would have with so called computer sales persons. If I'd listened to all their talk about specs and hardware I'd owned a missile launcher capable of high end mathematical computations !
What I'm saying is my advise is to list your requirements and expectations first. Look at the specs and hardware and decide what you'll need.
I am a retired engineer and I spend most of my time on my Xoom. A properly installed version of ICS, personally like EOS, I have NO problems surfing, emailing, playing some games and yes I even break out a spreadsheet once in a while.
Yes there are netbooks and laptops that can offer more...just be sure to aim those missiles correctly!!
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thank you for the reply, but I already have a xoom... just trying to decide if it is feasible to use as an everyday computer.
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Wow, there was no need for AngryBulleteyeTruth to be so negative. I makes me wonder why he is even lurking the xoom forum if it is no use to him. Anyway.
I use my xoom more than I use my laptop and desktop. It Is wonderful for Im/text, typing documents to later be altered on a laptop/desktop, some games and media. I use my xoom everyday. The battery life is also great. Yes the document editing isn't on par with desktop suites but is an android tablet, not a laptop. The simplicity comes with its drawbacks but the portability, battery and ease of use is unmatched.
Also if you really need to run desktop quality apps you can just use an app like pocketcloud or splashtop hd to vnc into your laptop/desktop and do what you must. The internal 32gb + a 16gb micro sD card is more than enough room for me. You also have cloud storage available. There is even a app called pocketcloud explorer that will allow you to download and upload files remotely from your machines, with the addition of their companion software. AngryBulleteyeTruth just lacks creativity and the will to find a solution. Don't let his negativity drag you down. Also take a look at when he joined. Feb 2012 means he is fairly new to the community and possibly butt hurt by his unrealistic dream of his xoom transforming into a tiny robot and being his sidekick didn't work out as planned.
I love my xoom! With Team EOS nightlys + undervolting + some simple but useful apps to automate certain task at certain locations = WIN for me. I have a 4g xoom so I can pop my sim card from my HTC thunderbolt in there and use all of that unlimited data. Or tether via Bluetooth if I am on the go.
My uses also include: gps, scanning/PDFing documents on the fly, video chat, voip, portable netflix/media play w/ my micro hdmi cable, getting my fix on reddit, sexytime material and more. People are working hard and doing great things with this device. There will also be more to come. The device is an awesome tool but but you can't expect Apple like commercials that spoon feed what you can use it for.
Tips: checkout androidpolice.com and droid-life.com for explanations, news, reviews, tips and tweaks. Lifehacker also has some good android stuff from time to time. I use justreader to subscribe to the rss feeds.
Search YouTube for useful tablet apps.
Check out the Themes and Apps forum sections for other popular android tablets on XDA. I use tapatalk to subscribe to the Samsung galaxy tab 10.1, Asus prime, Asus transformer and nook color Themes and Apps sections.
Finally share your discoveries and leave constructive comments on XDA. This keeps the community going, makes you feel involved and spread the knowledge to others in your situation.
May you and your xoom find happiness.
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Did you write it on a xoom or on a netbook?
Just imagine my 50+ tabs on opera working on any xoom browser, and making my 5+ pages documents on it
...not ignoring the embeded video browsing other than you tube
runhopskipjump - I'm not ashamed of being disappointed. That's the point.
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I wrote on a xoom with swiftkeys while eating some carrot cake if you must know. I currently have 23 tabs open in opera from looking at reddit links that I would get back to later. And a couple more in chrome because I am downloading some music from beemp3 and prefer that the native download manager handles it. Yes I have typed 5+ pages with and without a Bluetooth keyboard on Docs to Go. My grammar isn't that shyty that I would require a stronger office suite to highlight the crap out of my paragraphs. You can always embed media at a later point or vnc into a desktop to complete the task as desired.
I hated netbooks. But that is not the point. The OP asked if it was viable to use the Xoom as his main device, not his only device. Yet you saw it fit to run your mouth, blabbering about your opinion, disappointment and flawed understanding of what the device is meant to achieve. I hope this exchange between us will be our last because I am not hear to convince you. You have made it clear that you aren't ashamed by your crys for attention using BOLD red font, linking to your own poorly placed Microsoft Dic-Riding thoughts on another thread and your clear inability to find a solution.
On Ice Cream Sandwich, this machine is a powerhouse. If you can't hang, Get Out. Good day sir/madam.
I feel dirty... like I am standing in the middle of a p***in match.
For what it is worth, I ordered a keyboard today and turned off my monitor to my computer to test this. I installed an rdc app on the xoom, and have done everything on it since I got home. So far, so good. I have a desktop at work I can work with if needed, however, I really do only use my computer for email, web browsing chatting, Facebook and other similar very light duty things. I honestly don't care if i can keep 30 tabs open...because I dont do it anyways. Same for documents. With a keyboard, it should be pretty easy, but I am not in school and do not type long essays, so it doesn't matter. If I have something super long to post, I have other options.
And yes... I typed this post on the xoom. It is on its dock in front of me, and I am using the hunt and peck method of typing on the on screen keyboard.
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I feel dirty... like I am standing in the middle of a p***in match.
For what it is worth, I ordered a keyboard today and turned off my monitor to my computer to test this. I installed an rdc app on the xoom, and have done everything on it since I got home. So far, so good. I have a desktop at work I can work with if needed, however, I really do only use my computer for email, web browsing chatting, Facebook and other similar very light duty things. I honestly don't care if i can keep 30 tabs open...because I dont do it anyways. Same for documents. With a keyboard, it should be pretty easy, but I am not in school and do not type long essays, so it doesn't matter. If I have something super long to post, I have other options.
And yes... I typed this post on the xoom. It is on its dock in front of me, and I am using the hunt and peck method of typing on the on screen keyboard.
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Avert your eyes my child from the darkness and bickering that may arise on these public forums. Lol.
May I suggest that you invest some coin in Swiftkeys Tablet X, Thumb Keyboard and Swype to have a more pleasant on screen experience. You won't regret it.
Also I use Keyboard Manager (only like $1) to automatically change keyboard when you switch from landscape to portrait and back. Swiftkeys Tablet X has a pretty good prediction/auto-correct function but I don't like the way it is displayed in portrait mode. Thumb Keyboard has a better layout (i use it in portrait mode) but the prediction/auto-correct isn't even close to Swiftkeys Tablet X. And Swype is free so why not try it. My experience with the stock keyboard is a dreadful one. All three are worth getting and are a wonderful investment.
Cheers.
I use my Xoom probably 90% of the time when I'm at home. Occasionally I will sit down and use my desktop for other stuff - BUT I already had a desktop at the time I bought my Xoom. If something must to happen to my desktop, I seriously doubt I would replace it. There is an app out there for practically everything now with a little time spent setting the Xoom up like I wanted it, it has almost replaced my desktop (and at some point it will probably replace it). I work in IT on a daily basis and I'm a power user and I'm very impressed with Android and what it can do.
OK then... time to ignore the obvious troll.
Anybody else have an opinion on this?
What Troll?
Looks like I owe you some thanks Andy!
That's what were here for.
Every device forum has them. We just need to keep an eye on them.
sold my netbook and kindle and ipod when i got the Xoom!
Well, I got the keyboard in today and it is awesome... when it works. For some reason keys keep randomly not working, specifically the r, l, g' z and backspace keys. Anybody else ever have this issue?
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Well, I got the keyboard in today and it is awesome... when it works. For some reason keys keep randomly not working, specifically the r, l, g' z and backspace keys. Anybody else ever have this issue?
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What ROM are you running? I had this issue in the stock honeycomb ROM with an apple keyboard. I no longer have such issues on team EOS ICS nightlys.
Tip: swiftkeys Tablet X work great with an external keyboard. I say this because when an external keyboard is present, swiftkeys Tablet X only displays the predictions and auto corrections. Hitting the space bar selects the highlighted word. Is is very convenient and not something people speak of.
I haven't rooted yet, still on stock honeycomb
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I haven't rooted yet, still on stock honeycomb
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Take some time to root it. Trust me, it is worth it. It opens up a whole new world of possibilities. Backing up apps, settings and game saves with titanium backup is so awesome. Android police has a wonderful set of articles about rooting, why you should do it and essential apps for rooted devices. Droid-life and lifehacker have some articles and pieces on the topic as well. Team EOS ICS nightlys are also one of the most up to date roms I have ever encountered. Rooting is even easier with tools like xoot and cornea, which will take you through the steps with a couple of clicks. I personally haven't tried those methods since I was rooted before they came out but others have been successful with them.
I will probably do that today just to see if the keyboard works better, it's so incredibly frustrating to only be able to type half a word! Hm... maybe I should root my Revo...again...
Having used the much hyped Flipboard app since a week and the under estimated Google currents app for months, my comparison might approve biased.
The performance of the Flipboard app is far below satisfaction,I agree that further updates will improve that, but come'on man, the app is a major attraction feature of galaxy s3 and so needed to be more polished.It maybe that my 320x480 screen and lame processor might be the reason, but still Google Currents, too, wasn't made specifically for my device and it runs far more smoothly,duh.
The most annoying part is that many of the stories open in full site mode, not in magazine mode, unlike Google currents.The full view takes hours to open on a slow connection, so again Currents is the winner.
What do you think? Don't come yelling at me if you are a Flipboard fanboy and find something wrong in my post.
I'm a Flipboard fanboy and find everything wrong with your post!!1!
Just kidding.
Having used both, I have to say I don't see anything special on Flipboard other than the nice-looking animations it has. The clunkiness was probably your device though. Now, don't take it as if I'm bashing your phone or anything. I'm just saying... do remember it's being pushed first to a major device with impressively powerful specs to then start working with the lower-specced devices, as have others done before with other apps (I'm almost sure of this).
I do prefer Currents, though, for the same reasons you said. Full article is something I'd prefer as an option, like opening on the browser. Magazine style is much better for reading on phones.
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I myself bash my phone,it's dumb,it's lame,but it's still not as crap as iPhones because it's an Android
I prefer Currents as a reading app because articles are more accessible, and it's much easier to navigate. In Currents, while you are reading an article from a subscribed source, you can conveniently tap an icon and there pops a list of other articles from the same source with headlines and snippets for you to check at a glance what is of interest to you. As for Flipboard, yes, the pictures are big and nice, but navigating within it is just so inefficient. I actually feel "isolated" in the app. I need to read quickly over lunch, so Flipboard is just not for me. Actually my favorite reading app is nether Currents nor Flipboard, it's Pulse News.
Yeah,I have used pulse too and see of it's features, like disabling image loading when not on wifi and it's interface are better than currents, btw flipboard home screen is the worst, wasting all the screen estate
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I have used both as well and updated Flip to 1.8.4 just two days ago.
The thing i like about flipboard...FB / Twitter integration...THAT'S IT
refresh is quite slow on flipboard...and what is up with just 4 pages?? Then you have to go and click more and view rest of your topics to choose from.not cool...
I like Currents...i like that it's true magazine style as even the fliping is left to right like reading a magazine rather than flipping from bottom..(flip style)...
Currents also seems to refresh quite quickly..if G DOGS can incorporate FB / Twitter / G+ in currents...that would be AWESOME....
I was so hype when the apk got posted. And to be honest I'm still using flud lol. Its nice but I like fluid more. On a side note that was the only thing my iPhone friend would say he wouldn't get a android. Now its on it he came up with some other bull
Flipboard content seems limited. Maybe I haven't explored it enough. I too like that you can add your FB/Twitter feeds to it. I don't post much, so it works great for keeping up.
I currents, also.
Flipboard is more for tablets rather than phones. I think that Currents is better on a phone but on a tablet, nothing can beat Flipboard. I'm using it on my iPad 3 and it is amazing app. Just my 2¢
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I have it on my iPad, too. I always thought it was limited. I hate that it just stops updating after a set number of pages.
I think flipboard shows more content, at least that's how I feel. In currents there is only this one banner area and the icons below doesn't show any info about new articles. While flipboard shows lots of pictures. Other than that I've found one big flaw in each of the apps. Please correct me if It's wrong and explain me how
Flipboard lacks offline support
Currents doesn't seem to have a way to favorite items?
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Flipboard and Pulse both are about or below 3mb. In comparison why is Google Currents a bloated 7+mb? I guess because it shows bigger pictures ؟ :-/
Pulse seems good - but they should definitely allow users to reorganize pages. Also the 12 feed per page limitation doesn't make sense, especially because you can't club multiple feeds together in one feed or line.
On the other hand, I know it is probably a matter of personal preference, but I feel both Google Currents and Flipboard sorely lack the ability to allow continuous vertical scrolling on articles. On Flipboard it does happen for most articles but not all, and Google Currents seems determined to pagify every article it finds. This is very annoying to me especially as a smartphone user.
So which one do you end up using?
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I have ruled out Google Current... wish it could show vertical scrolling articles, but paginating every story is unacceptable for me, and is a complete deal breaker.
I am evaluating Flipboard & Pulse now. Both are good, but perhaps I am slightly inclined towards Pulse. It allows me to see all headlines at a glance and also shows vertical scrolling feed for all articles. I am planning to try Yahoo Pipes to combine multiple feeds into one.
Pulse is my current favorite, and as far as pagifying every content is considered, I'm ok with that, because if I want to see full web pages, I'm better off with my opera mini which loads the story 3x faster
Yes but imagine, these readers could do it with zero lag as they are loading the story anyway. Pulse, though, doesn't fall into this category - it doesn't paginate anything (thankfully).
I like Filpboard better because it can suggest content sources for me. For example if I want to read about all things Hockey, it automatically suggests a bunch of articles for me. Currents doesn't do that. I select ONE source for Current and that's all it will ever show me (At least in my exploring of the app).
both are really good but i find myself using currents more. as beautiful as flipboard is, i prefer being able to see multiple headlines at once, and the ability to search through all your news sources which you don't seem able to do from flip.
Taptu
What about Taptu? It has that excellent scrollable news widget and you can combine rss feeds.
Have you guys tried feedly?
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Hello guys. For those who have used the Microsoft surface, can you share your experience? I am just curious about its speed, performance, and how user friendly it is
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I love mine. I find the interface refreshing and unique, the people app lets me do way more with social media than I have been able to do in the past. Typing on the touch cover is still a bit of a challenge but they are saying it takes a few days to get it done properly. Speed wise, there are no issues. Mine is snappy and responsive. Battery life is amazing. I can use it all day 6am until 7pm and still only be down to around 30-40% battery remaining. There is a lack of apps but nothing that I can't wait out. I expected the ecosystem will take a bit to get going and I'm willing to wait. I sold my ipad with retina and honestly don't miss it at all.
I really love mine the more I use it. I'm typing this on the touchcover and although I make a lot of mistakes I seem to be getting better at it. That said, I do have some issues but nothing that major (yet!). Battery life seems to be much less than the ipad, people report 8-10 hours, I only get like 4-7. The apps are a disappointment, but I plan to use this device productively soo all I really need is dropbox. The device seems to slow down when editing 2 page documents in word. I tried to make a brochure on here and dragging pictures around was a nightmare. I did type a paper onhere and while it took longer then on a regular keyboard it wasn't that bad.
IE 10 for metro is complete trash. Can't even load XDA so I find myself always forced to use the desktop version. If you buy one, I suggest the model higher than 32gb as we really only get lke 14 gb because of the os taking up so much room.
The touchcover gets very dirty it seems. I'm not suire if I can clean it without ruining it. I sneeze on it before and it has a nasty stain =/.
The device itself is very prone to scratches, I tend to try to plug the thing into charge while its dark and that damn connector is such a pita that I always scratch the bezel.
I love the keyboard gestures (which I know can be used on any computer). The UI is very fast, there's a crap ton of gestures to learn. Yet, there are some gripes. Closing an app takes a crazy amount of time. You have to drag all theway from the top of the screen to the bottom, unnecessary.
Overall, I love it and I plan on keeping it. I still have my ipad and my nexus 7 but this really helps me get stuff done. The fact I can plug in almost any usb device and hve it work is amazing. You can even charge cellphones and stuff with the USB. I would recommend getting the surface IF you realize you can't run anything that's not in the store. No browser addons, no exe fils, nothing. Sometime that makes me wish I got the pro, but this device is really enough. Get past the quirkiness of metro + desktop and it's a beast.
Sorry for the typos. This was typed on the touch cover while lying down in bed.
*EDIT* The messenger app sucks realy badly too. You add someone as a friend (which can't be done in the app you have to go to a website) then you can't ever send them a message cause it says "Name unavailable" but they can send you messages. Its a one way form of communication.
*Edit2* Another clunky part. There are no jpg thumbail previews in the desktop. And when you want to open an image it has to open a program in metro
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I love the surface responsiveness and the new UI. But still there is still miles to go to get this perfect.
1. After being ON for more than 3 days, clicking on Email opened up weather, can't reach the email by clicking on any of the tiles. Same with IE. I had to reboot.
2. The auto rotate stopped working suddenly. I had to reboot to get it working again.
3. The email Client is awful. Need a better email app. It can't even match 10% of other email client's functionality. (No multi select, too much delay when navigating emails in the list, no option to Archive vs Delete, Moving to folders isn't as easy,
4. There is no Cisco VPN client. If your work requires non standard Cisco VPN connectivity, stay away.
5. Enterprise Distribution of apps isn't clear yet. We shouldn't have to have enterprise apps published to Microsoft Store every time.
6. Silverlight doesn't run on RT? Kidding me?
7. Playing HD video isn't going to be easy. Not even one app which could play MKV files.
8. The copy paste of text inside surface isn't as easy as in iPad. Sometimes it takes too much time to get the needed text selected on IE.
9. Needs tweaking to run Flash on all websites (its a hack. Why?)
10, Pointing the cursor to an exact place in a text area isn't as easy as in iPad with the magnifying glass.
By the way, WHERE IS THE REPORT A PROBLEM button in RT ?
Though I have so many complaints, I still love my Surface. I don't use my iPad anymore. Many times, I had tried to touch my monitor while using my laptop. MS is spoiling me
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I really love mine the more I use it. I'm typing this on the touchcover and although I make a lot of mistakes I seem to be getting better at it. That said, I do have some issues but nothing that major (yet!). Battery life seems to be much less than the ipad, people report 8-10 hours, I only get like 4-7. The apps are a disappointment, but I plan to use this device productively soo all I really need is dropbox. The device seems to slow down when editing 2 page documents in word. I tried to make a brochure on here and dragging pictures around was a nightmare. I did type a paper onhere and while it took longer then on a regular keyboard it wasn't that bad.
IE 10 for metro is complete trash. Can't even load XDA so I find myself always forced to use the desktop version. If you buy one, I suggest the model higher than 32gb as we really only get lke 14 gb because of the os taking up so much room.
The touchcover gets very dirty it seems. I'm not suire if I can clean it without ruining it. I sneeze on it before and it has a nasty stain =/.
The device itself is very prone to scratches, I tend to try to plug the thing into charge while its dark and that damn connector is such a pita that I always scratch the bezel.
I love the keyboard gestures (which I know can be used on any computer). The UI is very fast, there's a crap ton of gestures to learn. Yet, there are some gripes. Closing an app takes a crazy amount of time. You have to drag all theway from the top of the screen to the bottom, unnecessary.
Overall, I love it and I plan on keeping it. I still have my ipad and my nexus 7 but this really helps me get stuff done. The fact I can plug in almost any usb device and hve it work is amazing. You can even charge cellphones and stuff with the USB. I would recommend getting the surface IF you realize you can't run anything that's not in the store. No browser addons, no exe fils, nothing. Sometime that makes me wish I got the pro, but this device is really enough. Get past the quirkiness of metro + desktop and it's a beast.
Sorry for the typos. This was typed on the touch cover while lying down in bed.
*EDIT* The messenger app sucks realy badly too. You add someone as a friend (which can't be done in the app you have to go to a website) then you can't ever send them a message cause it says "Name unavailable" but they can send you messages. Its a one way form of communication.
*Edit2* Another clunky part. There are no jpg thumbail previews in the desktop. And when you want to open an image it has to open a program in metro
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In response to some of your issues. I love metro ui based IE and find it loads XDA without issue. A good tip is to enable adblocking filters using the tips in this forum (find the topic called tips). It loads XDA fine now for me.
Closing an app by dragging top to bottom takes a lot of time? It's a half second gesture man. Be realistic. Alot of your complaints are issues that are not issues at all. It's a different UI, give it a break.
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tcsekhar said:
I love the surface responsiveness and the new UI. But still there is still miles to go to get this perfect.
1. After being ON for more than 3 days, clicking on Email opened up weather, can't reach the email by clicking on any of the tiles. Same with IE. I had to reboot.
2. The auto rotate stopped working suddenly. I had to reboot to get it working again.
3. The email Client is awful. Need a better email app. It can't even match 10% of other email client's functionality. (No multi select, too much delay when navigating emails in the list, no option to Archive vs Delete, Moving to folders isn't as easy,
4. There is no Cisco VPN client. If your work requires non standard Cisco VPN connectivity, stay away.
5. Enterprise Distribution of apps isn't clear yet. We shouldn't have to have enterprise apps published to Microsoft Store every time.
6. Silverlight doesn't run on RT? Kidding me?
7. Playing HD video isn't going to be easy. Not even one app which could play MKV files.
8. The copy paste of text inside surface isn't as easy as in iPad. Sometimes it takes too much time to get the needed text selected on IE.
9. Needs tweaking to run Flash on all websites (its a hack. Why?)
10, Pointing the cursor to an exact place in a text area isn't as easy as in iPad with the magnifying glass.
By the way, WHERE IS THE REPORT A PROBLEM button in RT ?
Though I have so many complaints, I still love my Surface. I don't use my iPad anymore. Many times, I had tried to touch my monitor while using my laptop. MS is spoiling me
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MKV does not equal HD, so try playing an MP4 or something in HD before making comments like this. So what if it doesn't play MKV format, there are plenty it does play.
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I love mine. I find the interface refreshing and unique, the people app lets me do way more with social media than I have been able to do in the past. Typing on the touch cover is still a bit of a challenge but they are saying it takes a few days to get it done properly. Speed wise, there are no issues. Mine is snappy and responsive. Battery life is amazing. I can use it all day 6am until 7pm and still only be down to around 30-40% battery remaining. There is a lack of apps but nothing that I can't wait out. I expected the ecosystem will take a bit to get going and I'm willing to wait. I sold my ipad with retina and honestly don't miss it at all.
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Wow your experience with the Microsoft surface sure is awesome. It sounds awesome and I can't wait to check it out. Not sure if it is available in my country though...
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mchimney said:
I really love mine the more I use it. I'm typing this on the touchcover and although I make a lot of mistakes I seem to be getting better at it. That said, I do have some issues but nothing that major (yet!). Battery life seems to be much less than the ipad, people report 8-10 hours, I only get like 4-7. The apps are a disappointment, but I plan to use this device productively soo all I really need is dropbox. The device seems to slow down when editing 2 page documents in word. I tried to make a brochure on here and dragging pictures around was a nightmare. I did type a paper onhere and while it took longer then on a regular keyboard it wasn't that bad.
IE 10 for metro is complete trash. Can't even load XDA so I find myself always forced to use the desktop version. If you buy one, I suggest the model higher than 32gb as we really only get lke 14 gb because of the os taking up so much room.
The touchcover gets very dirty it seems. I'm not suire if I can clean it without ruining it. I sneeze on it before and it has a nasty stain =/.
The device itself is very prone to scratches, I tend to try to plug the thing into charge while its dark and that damn connector is such a pita that I always scratch the bezel.
I love the keyboard gestures (which I know can be used on any computer). The UI is very fast, there's a crap ton of gestures to learn. Yet, there are some gripes. Closing an app takes a crazy amount of time. You have to drag all theway from the top of the screen to the bottom, unnecessary.
Overall, I love it and I plan on keeping it. I still have my ipad and my nexus 7 but this really helps me get stuff done. The fact I can plug in almost any usb device and hve it work is amazing. You can even charge cellphones and stuff with the USB. I would recommend getting the surface IF you realize you can't run anything that's not in the store. No browser addons, no exe fils, nothing. Sometime that makes me wish I got the pro, but this device is really enough. Get past the quirkiness of metro + desktop and it's a beast.
Sorry for the typos. This was typed on the touch cover while lying down in bed.
*EDIT* The messenger app sucks realy badly too. You add someone as a friend (which can't be done in the app you have to go to a website) then you can't ever send them a message cause it says "Name unavailable" but they can send you messages. Its a one way form of communication.
*Edit2* Another clunky part. There are no jpg thumbail previews in the desktop. And when you want to open an image it has to open a program in metro
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The Microsoft surface is still new so it probably still have quite a number of flaws. Hope Microsoft work on it and come out with Microsoft surface 2?
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tcsekhar said:
I love the surface responsiveness and the new UI. But still there is still miles to go to get this perfect.
1. After being ON for more than 3 days, clicking on Email opened up weather, can't reach the email by clicking on any of the tiles. Same with IE. I had to reboot.
2. The auto rotate stopped working suddenly. I had to reboot to get it working again.
3. The email Client is awful. Need a better email app. It can't even match 10% of other email client's functionality. (No multi select, too much delay when navigating emails in the list, no option to Archive vs Delete, Moving to folders isn't as easy,
4. There is no Cisco VPN client. If your work requires non standard Cisco VPN connectivity, stay away.
5. Enterprise Distribution of apps isn't clear yet. We shouldn't have to have enterprise apps published to Microsoft Store every time.
6. Silverlight doesn't run on RT? Kidding me?
7. Playing HD video isn't going to be easy. Not even one app which could play MKV files.
8. The copy paste of text inside surface isn't as easy as in iPad. Sometimes it takes too much time to get the needed text selected on IE.
9. Needs tweaking to run Flash on all websites (its a hack. Why?)
10, Pointing the cursor to an exact place in a text area isn't as easy as in iPad with the magnifying glass.
By the way, WHERE IS THE REPORT A PROBLEM button in RT ?
Though I have so many complaints, I still love my Surface. I don't use my iPad anymore. Many times, I had tried to touch my monitor while using my laptop. MS is spoiling me
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That sounds really troublesome and watching movies and videos is a pain.
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cmscritic said:
In response to some of your issues. I love metro ui based IE and find it loads XDA without issue. A good tip is to enable adblocking filters using the tips in this forum (find the topic called tips). It loads XDA fine now for me.
Closing an app by dragging top to bottom takes a lot of time? It's a half second gesture man. Be realistic. Alot of your complaints are issues that are not issues at all. It's a different UI, give it a break.
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MKV does not equal HD, so try playing an MP4 or something in HD before making comments like this. So what if it doesn't play MKV format, there are plenty it does play.
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I agree MKV does not equal HD. But the best compression today seems to be MKV files, and I have a ton of those. I don't want to convert all of them again into MP4 or any other format at this point. When all other OS supports playing it, why not MS - especially when they are late in the game, and know what the expectations are?
only 4-7 hours? maybe faulty device? everybody has like 8-10.. 4-7 aint too good
mr_dan said:
only 4-7 hours? maybe faulty device? everybody has like 8-10.. 4-7 aint too good
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Mine with continuous use from morning 7AM till 9PM still have 30% juice. I just use for browse & search - no play or video.
tcsekhar said:
Mine with continuous use from morning 7AM till 9PM still have 30% juice. I just use for browse & search - no play or video.
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Agreed. Mine is about the same.
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tcsekhar said:
I agree MKV does not equal HD. But the best compression today seems to be MKV files, and I have a ton of those. I don't want to convert all of them again into MP4 or any other format at this point. When all other OS supports playing it, why not MS - especially when they are late in the game, and know what the expectations are?
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I know what you mean, I'd love to have it too (especially for the space savings) but I think we need to give MS some time to get the apps rolling. It's a new ecosystem and I've no doubt it'll get rolling soon. Would LOVE to see VLC on it.. that would rock.
I understand the os is new but I love the potential. I love this device regardless of my complaints. I do miss Google though.
In regards to my battery, I think something must be wrong, I'm using quite a lot of battery even just idling
mchimney said:
I understand the os is new but I love the potential. I love this device regardless of my complaints. I do miss Google though.
In regards to my battery, I think something must be wrong, I'm using quite a lot of battery even just idling
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I'd take it in and have it looked at. I can usually go the whole day without issue.
mchimney said:
I understand the os is new but I love the potential. I love this device regardless of my complaints. I do miss Google though.
In regards to my battery, I think something must be wrong, I'm using quite a lot of battery even just idling
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Probably your wifi, email or any idling applications could have cause the huge drainage of battery
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brandonjuraimi said:
Probably your wifi, email or any idling applications could have cause the huge drainage of battery
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I know Bluettoth also kills battery on phones and on the surface it is on by default. We need one of those battery monitoring apps, especially since the Start screen doesn't report battery details - I did find the "Windows Mobility Center" in the backend/desktop, and created a link on the start screen - it provides batter percentage among other shortcuts - pretty cool.
what I do love about the Surface is all the little things that can be tweaked on the descktop - By far more customizable than any other tablet out there.
tcsekhar said:
I agree MKV does not equal HD. But the best compression today seems to be MKV files, and I have a ton of those. I don't want to convert all of them again into MP4 or any other format at this point. When all other OS supports playing it, why not MS - especially when they are late in the game, and know what the expectations are?
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MKV is just a container, like avi or ogg. So actual compression is x264 or as some call it mp4. There is also MP4 container which contains also x264 compressed videos, so moving files from mkv to MP4 is possible without reencoding, but just repacking.
But I agree, it is not for everyone and I'm sure mkv support will come soon through some third party app like vlc or mplayer.
This device is very new to the market and the os as well.
encho said:
MKV is just a container, like avi or ogg. So actual compression is x264 or as some call it mp4. There is also MP4 container which contains also x264 compressed videos, so moving files from mkv to MP4 is possible without reencoding, but just repacking.
But I agree, it is not for everyone and I'm sure mkv support will come soon through some third party app like vlc or mplayer.
This device is very new to the market and the os as well.
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MKV is definitely the container of choice for HD in this day and age so any current system needs to be able to handle it if they want to sell units My whole HTPC movie library is in MKV. Having to convert to mp4 is not very practical as it requires time and steps (I use Handbrake for my Ipod touch). The latest Androids can play alomost anything thrown at them. I am sure someone will release a video player that will handle it if the surface is truly to be considered a media device. The question is will MS let it get certified in the store (Still unclear on the process and what's allowed - I would love to see a Opera or Firefox borwser too and I thought MS got sued years back for limiting options of browsers on the desktop OS). The question is how open MS will be to allow competing apps, especially if they want to sell hardware.
guitar1969 said:
MKV is definitely the container of choice for HD in this day and age so any current system needs to be able to handle it if they want to sell units My whole HTPC movie library is in MKV. Having to convert to mp4 is not very practical as it requires time and steps (I use Handbrake for my Ipod touch). The latest Androids can play alomost anything thrown at them. I am sure someone will release a video player that will handle it if the surface is truly to be considered a media device. The question is will MS let it get certified in the store (Still unclear on the process and what's allowed - I would love to see a Opera or Firefox borwser too and I thought MS got sued years back for limiting options of browsers on the desktop OS). The question is how open MS will be to allow competing apps, especially if they want to sell hardware.
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Back in my Linux days I had a script which unpacks MKV like it would zip file and repacks into MP4. The whole process takes 1 minute. But as you said MKV support needs to come to RT and MS is aware of the fact that sale of their Surface tablets depends on third party apps.
So I don't think they'll have an issue with VLC or Opera or anything else. More apps equals more profit.
tcsekhar said:
3. The email Client is awful. Need a better email app. It can't even match 10% of other email client's functionality. (No multi select, too much delay when navigating emails in the list, no option to Archive vs Delete, Moving to folders isn't as easy,
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Agree its not very good, I hope they release an RT version of Outlook.
But you CAN multiselect, kind of swipe an email to the right a bit and a tick pops up in the corner, and then do the same for other.
At the moment, Hotmail/Outlook.com is better than the RT mail app...
My Paperwhite has stopped working.
I want to try using our Fire HD 10 to replace it.
We were planning a trip to Europe until the epidemic began.
My galfriend bought one of these to use as a laptop during the trip for access to banks and other information needed to ease the trip.
I've only played around with this a little bit, but am finding that it's probably pretty useless for what was intended.
I'm finding that it's not very intuitive, very difficult to figure out how to get it to do the jobs needed.
I'll probably continue to use my desktop PC for everything except reading the bulk of digital files.
It has been built very recently, and is efficient to use.
I figured out how to upload ebooks from my PC to the Fire's Book folder, then access an ebook to read it.
It's` a pretty clunky process but does work.
There might be a better way to do it and place to put them, open to suggestions.
My major problems right now are accessing controls for readability, text size, contrast, lighting and so on, and bookmarking where the reading was left off at.
Just as I did with my Paperwhite, I want to divorce it from Amazon.
It will not have internet access.
All reading materials will be downloaded from the PC.
I want to optimize it to be a reader, nothing more.
If I can't get it to do that, I'll just dropkick it off a beach into the ocean.
Can't see much better use for it if I can't make a reader out of it.
Any help and advice will be greatly appreciated.
wildbill-hiccup said:
My Paperwhite has stopped working.
I want to try using our Fire HD 10 to replace it.
We were planning a trip to Europe until the epidemic began.
My galfriend bought one of these to use as a laptop during the trip for access to banks and other information needed to ease the trip.
I've only played around with this a little bit, but am finding that it's probably pretty useless for what was intended.
I'm finding that it's not very intuitive, very difficult to figure out how to get it to do the jobs needed.
I'll probably continue to use my desktop PC for everything except reading the bulk of digital files.
It has been built very recently, and is efficient to use.
I figured out how to upload ebooks from my PC to the Fire's Book folder, then access an ebook to read it.
It's` a pretty clunky process but does work.
There might be a better way to do it and place to put them, open to suggestions.
My major problems right now are accessing controls for readability, text size, contrast, lighting and so on, and bookmarking where the reading was left off at.
Just as I did with my Paperwhite, I want to divorce it from Amazon.
It will not have internet access.
All reading materials will be downloaded from the PC.
I want to optimize it to be a reader, nothing more.
If I can't get it to do that, I'll just dropkick it off a beach into the ocean.
Can't see much better use for it if I can't make a reader out of it.
Any help and advice will be greatly appreciated.
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Why you'd want to limit the tablet to only reading books is beyond me, but to "divorce it from Amazon" and install Google Services and Play Store, use the Windows Fire Toolbox you'll find under Android Developement. There are a lot of ereaders in Play Store.