My notebook (ubuntu) and my Archos % tablet can find my windows desktop lan just fine, but can't sem to get the gtabley to find it, no matter what i put in (Ip, sever name, etc). Any ideas? Tried using the es file explorer and set to lan--also tried ftp.
Try an app called Network Discovery
Try an app called Network Discovery.
I use this app to find all of the devices on my network.
Three printers,WII box,Windows Home Server,Laptops,etc.
Works well!!
Bill
It finds all the IP addresses but no ports open
Windows shares are an issue because of the lack of CIFS support on our device (but there's been a recent breakthrough there, thanks to VS giving us source). The Archos probably has this built-in, already, as well as uPnP.
FTP, however, should "just work" - if the ports on the target are showing as closed, it could be a firewall issue. Suggestion: Test this between two PC's on the same LAN first, to verify that connectivity is there. Then. attempt it from the GTab. Also, make sure the GTab is on the same VLAN as your other devices and that the wireless router isn't blocking connectivity, either.
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Windows shares are an issue because of the lack of CIFS support on our device (but there's been a recent breakthrough there, thanks to VS giving us source). The Archos probably has this built-in, already, as well as uPnP.
FTP, however, should "just work" - if the ports on the target are showing as closed, it could be a firewall issue. Suggestion: Test this between two PC's on the same LAN first, to verify that connectivity is there. Then. attempt it from the GTab. Also, make sure the GTab is on the same VLAN as your other devices and that the wireless router isn't blocking connectivity, either.
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I don't understand the above. I've been able to access shares on my Windows machines fine, including shares on my Win7 laptop. The only problem I've been encountered were shares on my WinXP machine, where I have to connect anonymously. This was with ES File Explorer on stock 3053.
Jim
CIFS is the protocol that is used to access Windows shares. By default the GTablet does not support this or NTFS. You will need to add this support to the kernel. See:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=889088
hi,
I have been really frustrated with attempts to transfer media to my phone over MTP. On Ubuntu Linux - none of the methods work very well - including mtpfs, go-mtpfs, etc.
So I figured to use the method that Apple uses (tunneling TCP over USB) by way of ADB.
So I ran a ssh server on my phone (sshdroid, but anything should work), made sure that
Code:
adb devices
showed up my device, setup a port forward on my laptop using
Code:
adb forward tcp:2222 tcp:2222
, ran filezilla and connected to localhost on port 2222 and transferred all my media.
I got a 1.2 mbps transfer rate using my 2008 laptop. I am now planning to setup rsync over ssh to sync my music.
Here lies my frustration - Apple figured out the TCP over USB method almost a decade back, adb and ssh works well beautifully. Why did Google make the decision of going with MTP, as opposed to building something around SSH - which already has solved most of the problems around file transfer, mounting drives and sync.
Really frustrating.
EDIT: forgot to add that this should work for other devices like Samsung S3, Nexus 7 , etc. - but I personally have only my HOXL to test with.
- Sandeep
P.S. a longer rant on this topic here
sandys1 said:
hi,
I have been really frustrated with attempts to transfer media to my phone over MTP. On Ubuntu Linux - none of the methods work very well - including mtpfs, go-mtpfs, etc.
So I figured to use the method that Apple uses (tunneling TCP over USB) by way of ADB.
So I ran a ssh server on my phone (sshdroid, but anything should work), made sure that
Code:
adb devices
showed up my device, setup a port forward on my laptop using
Code:
adb forward tcp:2222 tcp:2222
, ran filezilla and connected to localhost on port 2222 and transferred all my media.
I got a 1.2 mbps transfer rate using my 2008 laptop. I am now planning to setup rsync over ssh to sync my music.
Here lies my frustration - Apple figured out the TCP over USB method almost a decade back, adb and ssh works well beautifully. Why did Google make the decision of going with MTP, as opposed to building something around SSH - which already has solved most of the problems around file transfer, mounting drives and sync.
Really frustrating.
EDIT: forgot to add that this should work for other devices like Samsung S3, Nexus 7 , etc. - but I personally have only my HOXL to test with.
- Sandeep
P.S. a longer rant on this topic here
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So you are essentially frustrated with the fact that you have the flexibility to discover your own solutions and that google facilitates this by providing you both a working file transfer method but the option to do it better? Honestly, I'm not sure that I would want to carry around not only my device but a USB stick with portable versions of a FTP client/adb for linux/windows/OS X just to be able to transfer files to/from in a pinch. Most OSs will be able to deal with an MTP device and this allows google to both not need to separate the space into space for your data/apps and allows for google to use ext file systems. There was some thought put into that decision believe it or not.
I just use FTP though my file browser.
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So you are essentially frustrated with the fact that you have the flexibility to discover your own solutions and that google facilitates this by providing you both a working file transfer method but the option to do it better? Honestly, I'm not sure that I would want to carry around not only my device but a USB stick with portable versions of a FTP client/adb for linux/windows/OS X just to be able to transfer files to/from in a pinch. Most OSs will be able to deal with an MTP device and this allows google to both not need to separate the space into space for your data/apps and allows for google to use ext file systems. There was some thought put into that decision believe it or not.
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Actually you misunderstood what I was trying to say. I completely understand the rationale for Google wanting to do away with MSC (yes - I have read the Dan Morrill interview as well). And I'm not proposing that you carry around ADB.
what I am fundamentally asking is the rationale to choose MTP as a protocol, when a viable and far superior alternative exists. OSes are NOT able to work with MTP effectively, because it was never intended to do what we need from our devices today.
On the other hand, most OSes already work with TCP and SSH very effectively and in an extremely highly performant way. It would have been trivial for Google to build a TCP/SSH service inside the Android core and make available client services (similar to usbmux) that would have worked seamlessly across all platforms.
I am seriously questioning the choice of MTP as a protocol, because it is not too efficient.
I don't get it, why not just mount your SD and drag and drop your files? Am I missing something here?
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Actually you misunderstood what I was trying to say. I completely understand the rationale for Google wanting to do away with MSC (yes - I have read the Dan Morrill interview as well). And I'm not proposing that you carry around ADB.
what I am fundamentally asking is the rationale to choose MTP as a protocol, when a viable and far superior alternative exists. OSes are NOT able to work with MTP effectively, because it was never intended to do what we need from our devices today.
On the other hand, most OSes already work with TCP and SSH very effectively and in an extremely highly performant way. It would have been trivial for Google to build a TCP/SSH service inside the Android core and make available client services (similar to usbmux) that would have worked seamlessly across all platforms.
I am seriously questioning the choice of MTP as a protocol, because it is not too efficient.
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I hear you. You will probably have a hard time convincing windows users that MTP is broken for them.
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I hear you. You will probably have a hard time convincing windows users that MTP is broken for them.
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I'm on windows and think mtp is horrible. That's why I just use ftp now if a rom opts for mtp (JB).
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I'm on windows and think mtp is horrible. That's why I just use ftp now if a rom opts for mtp (JB).
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Why not just mount as disk drive and get 5MB/sec file transfers? I don't get it?
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Why not just mount as disk drive and get 5MB/sec file transfers? I don't get it?
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The One X does not allow you to mount your internal memory as a USB drive. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Samsung S3 (even though it has a microsd ) does not allow the same.
The only way you can access data is through the phone using a protocol called MTP - it sort of pretends to mount your phone as a USB drive, but that's not what it is actually doing.
the USB drive mode is called MSC - the reason why Google decided to move away is written here
FTP and SFTP are good - You can do exactly that using the USB as the carrier (using my method) instead of the wireless network. So what you said does not make my proposal useless.
What I wanted to show was that there is a perfectly alternative way in which you can transfer files without using the wireless network (basically using the USB as a network). I am willing to stand my ground that that allows for a far superior (and much more omnipresent) protocol to transfer files. What you use on top of TCP-over-USB is upto you : SSH, SCP, FTP - all are viable.
Secondly, I like the fact that when I'm transferring all these files, my regular wifi/3g network is unthrottled.
sandys1 said:
The One X does not allow you to mount your internal memory as a USB drive. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Samsung S3 (even though it has a microsd ) does not allow the same.
The only way you can access data is through the phone using a protocol called MTP - it sort of pretends to mount your phone as a USB drive, but that's not what it is actually doing.
the USB drive mode is called MSC - the reason why Google decided to move away is written here
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We all have the the One XL which does allow for our storage to be presented as a block device. The One X might be different?
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We all have the the One XL which does allow for our storage to be presented as a block device. The One X might be different?
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I'm assuming you are on Windows.
What you are seeing is your computer talking to the phone over MTP and presenting it as a block device. If you are able to use your phone's storage (both main as well as the "/sdcard") while you are transferring content on your phone, then it is the MTP mode.
MTP not only brings bad performance, but it also doesnt work across all platforms and screws with fundamental things like timestamps.
Phones prior to the Galaxy Nexus used the MSC mode - a true block level mounting. There are some tradeoffs to that, which is why Google gave up on that.
The iPhone talks to the iTunes using a similar protocol to what I talked about in my OP - TCP over USB.
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I'm assuming you are on Windows.
What you are seeing is your computer talking to the phone over MTP and presenting it as a block device. If you are able to use your phone's storage (both main as well as the "/sdcard") while you are transferring content on your phone, then it is the MTP mode.
MTP not only brings bad performance, but it also doesnt work across all platforms and screws with fundamental things like timestamps.
Phones prior to the Galaxy Nexus used the MSC mode - a true block level mounting. There are some tradeoffs to that, which is why Google gave up on that.
The iPhone talks to the iTunes using a similar protocol to what I talked about in my OP - TCP over USB.
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No, I'm not seeing that at all in windows. When I plug my phone into any linux box as well it is enumerated as a "sd" device. I'm also not able to use the storage as it is mounted. The One XL divides its internal SD card into useable space and space for apps.
This is why people are not able to understand why you have posted this here and why I'm asking if the Tegra 3 One X is perhaps different.
EDIT: It looks like the SGS 3 uses MTP.
It is enumerated as a sd device, but it is not mounted as one.
Please double check - I'm on an AT&T One XL.
MTP is the only access path.
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It is enumerated as a sd device, but it is not mounted as one.
Please double check - I'm on an AT&T One XL.
MTP is the only access path.
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I just mounted my phone's storage on my laptop running Slackware 14.
Showed up as a SCSI attached storage disk.
fdisk shows it as a block device. In my case sdc.
sdc mounted as vfat.
No fuse, no MTP.
On windows my Nexus 7 uses MTP. My One X shows up as an actual block device. The disk manager even sees it as a block device.
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I just mounted my phone's storage on my laptop running Slackware 14.
Showed up as a SCSI attached storage disk.
fdisk shows it as a block device. In my case sdc.
sdc mounted as vfat.
No fuse, no MTP.
On windows my Nexus 7 uses MTP. My One X shows up as an actual block device. The disk manager even sees it as a block device.
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Oh - now I see what the confusion was. The HTC spoofs the MSC mode using a partition on a single disk. Read about it here. And these are some of the problems that may occur if you continue to use it as mass storage.
I would recommend that you transfer using MTP or over the network using FTP or through my method. I'm really unsure about the mass storage path.
However, what I talked about still stands - Google has moved away from mass storage completely and switched to MTP (HTC is doing a few tricks to make this easy for us)
MTP sucks.
One word: AirDroid.
Why even bother physically connecting your phone to USB anymore when you can use apps such as AirDroid (and many other apps) to get great speeds wirelessly regardless of platform? All you need is the App installed and any browser.
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Oh - now I see what the confusion was. The HTC spoofs the MSC mode using a partition on a single disk. Read about it here. And these are some of the problems that may occur if you continue to use it as mass storage.
I would recommend that you transfer using MTP or over the network using FTP or through my method. I'm really unsure about the mass storage path.
However, what I talked about still stands - Google has moved away from mass storage completely and switched to MTP (HTC is doing a few tricks to make this easy for us)
MTP sucks.
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Why can you not just accept the fact that htc includes an excellent usb interface. It's fast and stable in "disk drive" mode. Whether it's "spoofed", "faked" or whatever you want to call it, it works great, and across all platforms.
Actually I don't think it's spoofed at all considering I can write to it in direct disk access mode in WinHex.
Anyhow, they actually did quite a bit with the usb stack. USB tethering, USB network pass-through, and Disk-Drive mode are all HTC features that I sorely miss on my MTP SGS3.
I have not seen a single user complain about Disk Drive mode. It works great.
Nothing to see here, move along....
I hate mtp and miss mass storage mode from the hox
You can.
We can't. Truly.
This thread is for all of those users like me on Linux or OSX who are having trouble with transferring content.
I wouldn't have made this thread if it didn't affect us.
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Cab anyone help me out? I used to have a Galaxy S phone and kept some folders in sync with my PC by connecting it as a usb mass storage and using a software called Allway Sync on my PC.
Now with the note it no longer connects as mass storage. I do have Easy UMS installed but I is unstable. I can't use the cloud because of my company's IT policy.
In this way the best shot I have I guess is a Bluetooth method... can anyone suggest an app to solve this?
Try using my phone explorer from play store. Install the pc client too. You can sync via usb, wifi or bluetooth.
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c3p9 said:
Cab anyone help me out? I used to have a Galaxy S phone and kept some folders in sync with my PC by connecting it as a usb mass storage and using a software called Allway Sync on my PC.
Now with the note it no longer connects as mass storage. I do have Easy UMS installed but I is unstable. I can't use the cloud because of my company's IT policy.
In this way the best shot I have I guess is a Bluetooth method... can anyone suggest an app to solve this?
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You could also try SyncMe Wireless
I currently use samba filesharing to make my phone appear as a drive in pc and then use microsoft sync toy.
Very fast and accurate sync...
Tried many but this has worked best for me.
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aalupatti said:
I currently use samba filesharing to make my phone appear as a drive in pc and then use microsoft sync toy.
Very fast and accurate sync...
Tried many but this has worked best for me.
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That's a nice option. It works via USB?
c3p9 said:
That's a nice option. It works via USB?
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Its a wireless access option via wifi and it shows the internal and external cards as a networked drive in your pc. Due to this data transfer speeds are much better than other wireless option.
I have not seen any app or mod to make note 10.1 appear as mounted disks via usb. Synctoy cannot sync when phone is mounted as media devices. However there might be other programs that might be able to do it.
Earlier versions of samsung rom(for other devices) used to have it but not anymore
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aalupatti said:
Its a wireless access option via wifi and it shows the internal and external cards as a networked drive in your pc. Due to this data transfer speeds are much better than other wireless option.
I have not seen any app or mod to make note 10.1 appear as mounted disks via usb. Synctoy cannot sync when phone is mounted as media devices. However there might be other programs that might be able to do it.
Earlier versions of samsung rom(for other devices) used to have it but not anymore
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That is truly a nice option. Do you know if I can use WiFi tethering to connect the note and the pc? I'm asking that because at my company we still use wired networks so I can't put both devices under the same WiFi router except for the tethering option.
I'm using FolderSync on my phone and tablet.
The best, lot of customization.
Sync through SMB, ftp, ssh, Dropbox, GDrive, etc.
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I use Dropbox. There is an Android app called Dropsync which does two way sync on the note. There is a free version in the Market with file size limits to try itout.
cholywell said:
I use Dropbox. There is an Android app called Dropsync which does two way sync on the note. There is a free version in the Market with file size limits to try itout.
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Dropbox would be great but, as I mentioned in the first post I can't use it on my PC due to firewall restrictions at my company.
Lack of USB Mass Storage - Very Annoying
When I wrote the first question I didn´t realize the real problem... the lack of USB Mass Storage in Galaxy Note 10.1.
First of all... I cannot understand why Google decided to move from a standardized interface (USB Mass Storage) to a Microsoft crappy code designed specifically for Photos and Videos (MTP btw it means Media Transfer Protocol).
I know the "trend" is to have everything in the "cloud" but in my country 3G or 4G are still quite expensive and not all company work on full WiFi networks. The lack of such a "cloudless" sync system is in fact one of the main reasons that kept me away from Apple.
Funny thing is that Google an Sammy are copying Apple´s most annoying features... all "cloud" based, no standard sync systems (take the SNotes using Sammy proprietary cloud as an example), proprietary interfaces like the stupid 30 pin connector that needs a powered device to turn into HDMI (hilarious to say the least...)
To me the best "cloud" has always been to sync my PCs at Home and at Work using my Smartphone as the syncing device. I´m very very disappointed with the lack of USB Mass Storage on Galaxy Note 10.1.
Now a few workarounds to those living outside top countries where 4G and WiFi are everywhere...
1) MyPhoneExplorer - can be connected using bluetooth. Pros: has a dedicaded Folder Sync app. Cons: slower for larger files.
2) USB Mode Switch + Alt Mount - creates a "virtual" USB Mass Storage using cable connections - Pros: higher transfer rates. Cons: clumsy as you need to start two apps. Only mounts the internal storage. No sync system. At least I tried AllwaySync as it has a dedicaded ftp sync but couldn´t make it work.
3) SGS3 Easy UMS - Workaround for the SGS3 that works on both GN 10.1 ICS and JB. Pros: higher transfer rates. True Mass Storage that can be used with all PC Sync softwares. Cons: Easily stops working if any other app is accessing the card so usually you´ll need to restart your device to get it to work and even like that you will experience inconsistent results when connecting. Only mounts the external storage.
So we are moving forward but the holly grail isn't quite there yet... hope those apps help someone who is as disappointed on Android as I am.
SG USB Mass Storage Enabler
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2297888
working on N8020 with CM10.2
wwwcase said:
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working on N8020 with CM10.2
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Does not work with note 10.1 on stock based roms
I'm using Bitorrent Sync now, works great.
I get problem for copy files since the device to PC, tried apps as Multi Mount Sdcard lite and others but not can copied files large since device to PC.
Any Solution for this problem will be thanks.
In devices Xperia the solution was this app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.doomlord.xperiasdcardmounter
Newer phones are using MTP for a whole host of reasons. (It's a shame MTP support was awful in Linux until very recently.)
I've ended up using an FTP server on the phone. You could use FileZilla on the PC side. The server is only turned on when you want it on.
It's not perfect, but it's working for me for the moment.
Greetings XDA wizards,
Per my title I am switching phones. I plan to copy lots of media, is there a recommended folder naming scheme on the new phone such as naming a main sub-folder SD and then just copying my folders there via Windows Explorer?
Aim is to keep everything stored the same to be compatible with existing apps, ect, and frankly I am comfortable with a familiar layout. Old guys don't really like changes and I already had to go from years of Blackberry to Android.
If it matters phones concerned are: Nokia 8.3 5G to Asus ROG Phone 6.
I would appreciate any input on this.
Thanks
You can't simply copy files from one phone to another phone by means of Windows Explorer because the filesystems used on Windows computer and Android device are different: Extra tool is needed e.g.
MTP USB Device Driver Windows 10 64bit Driver | Device Drivers
MTP or (Media Transfer Protocol) is a set of custom extensions to the Picture Transfer Protocol (PTP) devised by Microsoft, to allow the protocol to be used for devices other than digital cameras, for example digital audio players such as MP3 players, and other portable media devices, for...
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