got my Tbolt about a month ago. during the first week or two, it was registering 4G speeds of about 20-25 mbps using the speedtest app. however, since then it's registering only about 5 mbps using the speedtest app. anybody experiencing the same decline in speeds? it seems to cap off at 5 mbps regardless of the number of reception bars - full bars vs. 2 bars.
unrooted, using stock, live in SF bay area. i'm wondering if my settings are incorrectly after messing around with my Modem Settings under the ##778# screen. my revA setting is set to eHRPD. and my settings for Preferred Network type under *#*#4636#*#* is set to CDMA+LTE/EvDO auto.
these are the correct stock settings for 4G coverage, no?
Speeds have been choppy for me as well in the Bay Area. Some days my 4g pulls less than 5mbps and some in the mid 20s.
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It's all network saturation guys. Nature of the beast I guess.
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Same here, I got the phone the first week it was out and just as you I had
19Mbps to 22Mbps. Then a week later 4g crashed and we were running on 1x speeds for a few days, when I rebooted my phone I was @ 4Mbps to 5Mbps. So I called tech support ran a few test and was told this was our normal speeds. I even sent him a link to what I was testing out of the box.
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"Verizon 4G LTE is up to 10 times faster than its 3G network. Verizon claims that in real world scenario, 4G LTE users experience average downloads speed of 5 to 12 Mbps and uploads speed of 2 to 5 Mbps"
I live in central Ohio and have a constant 4 bars when running 4g. When I was testing a tethered connection to my computer, with my ISP I get 12Mbps to 18Mbps. Using the phone I got 20Mbps but this was short lived a few days later I got 4Mbps.
Hopefully the speeds will @ 15 to 20Mbps again.
1bayne said:
Same here, I got the phone the first week it was out and just as you I had
19Mbps to 22Mbps. Then a week later 4g crashed and we were running on 1x speeds for a few days, when I rebooted my phone I was @ 4Mbps to 5Mbps. So I called tech support ran a few test and was told this was our normal speeds. I even sent him a link to what I was testing out of the box.
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"Verizon 4G LTE is up to 10 times faster than its 3G network. Verizon claims that in real world scenario, 4G LTE users experience average downloads speed of 5 to 12 Mbps and uploads speed of 2 to 5 Mbps"
I live in central Ohio and have a constant 4 bars when running 4g. When I was testing a tethered connection to my computer, with my ISP I get 12Mbps to 18Mbps. Using the phone I got 20Mbps but this was short lived a few days later I got 4Mbps.
Hopefully the speeds will @ 15 to 20Mbps again.
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Obviously you can't read. You are getting 5Mbps, VZW states 5-12Mbps. Sounds about right to me. You aren't the only person who is using 4G, think about that too.
If you car was estimated to get 32mpg, and you got 31, would you be calling the car dealer to complain?
Most of you wouldn't have even noticed if it wasn't for the speedtest app.
Seeing as the speedtest app wasn't programmed right for 4G right off anyways...
That, and network saturation is a b!tch
don't know the numbers but mines is still fast as hell...way faster then my cablevison modem...damn shame
g00s3y said:
Obviously you can't read. You are getting 5Mbps, VZW states 5-12Mbps. Sounds about right to me. You aren't the only person who is using 4G, think about that too.
If you car was estimated to get 32mpg, and you got 31, would you be calling the car dealer to complain?
Most of you wouldn't have even noticed if it wasn't for the speedtest app.
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Wow who pissed in your CHEERIOS?
And yes I can read. Nice Forum.
If you have read the beginning of the post the question IS "4g Speeds Slower Now?" Quick answer yes. Same experience as the poster. First received blazing speeds for about a week until 4g crashed.
Speedtest is an just app and the measurement may not be that accurate but it do give you something to compare to. As far as my car I get terrible gas mileage but also paid a luxury tax, no complaints.
Actually, ever since I installed new radio, the reception is worse, and the speeds aren't as consistent even during late nights in the locations i used to get -51dBm now i get -75dBm.
Is there any way I can go back to the old radio? unrooted.
the speedtest app is not accurate on GB. instead try browsing to speakeasy.net and do a test there. I was just able to run 2 tests ~21dn ~1.5up in DFW. right now speedtest app is showing 6-8dn... also of note it is also noon here, usually a high traffic time and i work in an extremely high traffic area (AT&T is useless here). Seems speeds have jumped today as i have been getting 10-15 down since the outage. looks like they have flipped some sort of a switch here in DFW today?
with the new radio the speed is horrible and is no problem with speedtest.net app, try to download something and u will see, plus i had a lot of times when i was on 4g and the internet was dead, all apps wore showing "network problem"
where is the 30-40M speed on 4g, the 4g was better then my home internet. now.....
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Wow who pissed in your CHEERIOS?
And yes I can read. Nice Forum.
If you have read the beginning of the post the question IS "4g Speeds Slower Now?" Quick answer yes. Same experience as the poster. First received blazing speeds for about a week until 4g crashed.
Speedtest is an just app and the measurement may not be that accurate but it do give you something to compare to. As far as my car I get terrible gas mileage but also paid a luxury tax, no complaints.
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I eat frosted flakes actually, don't like cheerios. Plus I make sure only milk goes in my cereal, so there was definitely no pissing.
Read again what you said, you called to complain to Verizon because you were getting the speeds they advertised .
Are 4G speeds slower now, common sense would obviously say yes, when 4G was "released" only people with a 4G "modem" could get it, in only a few cities. Now, there are 2 phones to go along with the 2 modem's, and a whole slew of new cities. More users on a network = general overall slowdown. This is a phone, not a torrent.
As far as your car, that's cool, you paid a luxury tax, so that makes it better... lol
but what is the point to have 4g with 3g or worst speed.
is like u have a v8 car working all the time only with 4 pistons.
it is not our fault that they r upgrading the network slower than they sign contracts and sell more 4g devices.
they r making more money, more profit they need to make the network to support the load. but like all big companies all that meter is MORE PROFIT.
all this for me looks like fake advertising, like i am selling u a car that suppose to be fast, it is for one month but after is very slow and other cheaper and older cars passing u in speed.
I'm getting between 4.5 and 5 down today but I am running a GB ROM and these are leaked radios so personally I'm not going to shoot Verizon considering I'm running alpha bits cereal on my phone.
Normally on the phone (I only use speakeasy's site) I'd get on a typical test 12-18 down and 2 up.
I just ran my speedtest about 8 times, everything is looking good here. When I first got the phone I was getting 45D/28U... Does that mean I should call and complain to VZW?
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g00s3y said:
I just ran my speedtest about 8 times, everything is looking good here. When I first got the phone I was getting 45D/28U... Does that mean I should call and complain to VZW?
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g00s3y said:
I just ran my speedtest about 8 times, everything is looking good here. When I first got the phone I was getting 45D/28U... Does that mean I should call and complain to VZW?
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Nice results! and yeah I would question what happened to 45D? My results now are 3.9D and .75U LOL
But I can still make a call!
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I got the phone on launch day and my speeds are actually faster now than they were weeks ago. I used to get around 18-21 Mbps and now I am able to get as high as 35 Mbps in Northern Jersey.
I am also running CM7 now just to let everyone know, not sure if that is making a difference.
in Delaware I get an ave of 6Down & 2Up
Ive never seen anything above 15Down since release week
Best site for speedtest is http://testmy.net use the classic option and pick a 100 or 200 meg size for the download test. Helps a lot in averaging out the peaks and valleys.
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Soooooo.... Tmobile does not seem to have a 4g network in my area even if they say they do. I spent the better part of 2hrs talk to tech support managers who tried to convince me that my g2x is pulling down 4g data despite speedtest showing max of only 2mbs and a constant connection to their 3g "umts" network and not their 4g "hspa" network. Really.tmobile? Really? Im starting to think that the hspa network is only a myth.... I mean, I have never seen a device connect to it nor has anyone I know. Have you guys ever been connected to tmo's hspa network?
Damn, thats not good. I'm having the same issue. I can put my SIM in my MyTouch 4G and my G2 and get 4g speeds. They even had me swap SIMs
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In my area of Raleigh NC tmobiles 4g is by far the fastest in my area I get min 5mbs up to 11 MBA usually right around 7 or 8.
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Their 3g is HSPA. Their "4g" is HSPA+. It's not a myth. And your download speed is dependent on many factors. Dont think that just because youre connected to the network youll get maximum HSPA+ speeds.
I get exceptional speeds, ranging anywhere from 6-12.5kbps on their '4G' network, pretty consistently.
Apparently (according to numerous XDA posts I've read) the G2x displays the 4G icon if you're in a 4G OR 3G coverage area. In other words, even if you're only in a 3G area, the 4G icon will be displayed.
As for the speeds, I've pulled down a max of 7mbps since I've had the phone. At my house which is supposedly a 4G area (according to the tmo coverage map) the max I've ever pulled down is 1.8mbps. My theory is that the back-haul is somewhat limited on the tower close to my house. Due to the geography I'm fairly sure they're using the same ISP I'm using (Charter). The tower is located in the middle of a huge suburban area with only Charter and AT&T providing service. AT&T DSL maxes out at 1.5mpbs in the area and Charter maxes out at 18mbps. Now, I've seen the tower and there's no equipment on it for a wireless back-haul. So basically the odds are they're using a few CBN (Charter Business) lines for connectivity and have the max speed per device set to 2mbps.
You can toss as much of the fancy 4G equipment on a tower as you want but if the back-haul capacity isn't there then it's still gonna be slow. Just my two cents.
Go into about phone and look for network. Mine is usually connected to hspa and I'm betting that's what yours is also.
Well 4G = 3G.
4G is the same technology just faster. Thats like my cable modem. It was 1.5mpbs when I first got it. Then 5mpbs. Then 10. Then 20. 30. Now 50mpbs. Nothing changed on my end.
My Nexus One would display 3G until I would pull data, then flip to H. But it wouldn't show 4G all the time (nor would it support faster speeds). I think they are trying to get rid of the 3G because 3G and 4G are basically the same.
People don't want to buy into the 4G service only to have the phone say 3G all the time.
And from my understanding the phone would display 3G. I never seen it but i'm in a 4G area.
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Their 3g is HSPA. Their "4g" is HSPA+. It's not a myth. And your download speed is dependent on many factors. Dont think that just because youre connected to the network youll get maximum HSPA+ speeds.
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sooo then whats HSDPA considered?
HSDPA is an evolved version of HSPA. It allows speeds of 3.6, 7.2, and 14.4Mbis/s. Sometimes called 3.5g
HSPA+ offers speeds up to 42Mbits/s. This is what T-Mobile is claiming as 4g
BOTH are based on the same 3g technology.
player911 said:
Well 4G = 3G.
4G is the same technology just faster. Thats like my cable modem. It was 1.5mpbs when I first got it. Then 5mpbs. Then 10. Then 20. 30. Now 50mpbs. Nothing changed on my end.
My Nexus One would display 3G until I would pull data, then flip to H. But it wouldn't show 4G all the time (nor would it support faster speeds). I think they are trying to get rid of the 3G because 3G and 4G are basically the same.
People don't want to buy into the 4G service only to have the phone say 3G all the time.
And from my understanding the phone would display 3G. I never seen it but i'm in a 4G area.
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HSPA+ isn't exactly the same technology and if you're getting 50mbps service through Comcast, either you just got the service or you did change your modem out recently. DOCSIS 2 wouldn't support that speed, you'd need a DOCSIS 3 modem.
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HSDPA is an evolved version of HSPA. It allows speeds of 3.6, 7.2, and 14.4Mbis/s. Sometimes called 3.5g
HSPA+ offers speeds up to 42Mbits/s. This is what T-Mobile is claiming as 4g
BOTH are based on the same 3g technology.
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ahh i get ya...that always confused me
I live 150 miles from the closest hspa+ signal. my g2x has said 4g since i first turned it on. I even showed it to the tmobile salesmen and they scratched their heads. never seen higher than 1.5 mbps on this thing.
I don't care what TMO wants to call it, their network is a far cry from 4G. Not Even Verizon's LTE is considered true 4G by international standards (which require +100mb down) and I get 30-35mb down and 12-15mb up. On TMO network, I have yet to top 7mb.
jlevy73 said:
I don't care what TMO wants to call it, their network is a far cry from 4G. Not Even Verizon's LTE is considered true 4G by international standards (which require +100mb down) and I get 30-35mb down and 12-15mb up. On TMO network, I have yet to top 7mb.
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Well that's a whole other topic right? Gizmodo, Engadget, etc have all discussed that no network is truly "4G". Recently tho I thought something changed where they lowered the requirement for what is considered 4G.
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Seanathan said:
Well that's a whole other topic right? Gizmodo, Engadget, etc have all discussed that no network is truly "4G". Recently tho I thought something changed where they lowered the requirement for what is considered 4G.
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I've heard that as well, they lowered the spec to 10Mbps or so. Here's the first link I could find talking about it, but there are plenty more Link
jlevy73 said:
I don't care what TMO wants to call it, their network is a far cry from 4G. Not Even Verizon's LTE is considered true 4G by international standards (which require +100mb down) and I get 30-35mb down and 12-15mb up. On TMO network, I have yet to top 7mb.
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at least wimax and lte will have the ability to reach those theoretical speeds in future revisions. HSPA is maxed out at 84Mb/s.
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Go into about phone and look for network. Mine is usually connected to hspa and I'm betting that's what yours is also.
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Post a screen shot of your settings showing "Mobile Network Type" being connected to "HSPA" and Not UMTS. My device has NEVER see seen "HSPA" only "UMTS".
In fact, someone/anyone please post a picture of this device being connected to HSPA and NOT UMTS! i am in a certified 4g network and my device has never seen more than 2.5mbs....
really t-mobile? really?
4G just means 4th Generation. There is no official definition of what technically constitutes 4G.
This is what I get at home with a 4G icon and a reported UMTS connection.
T-Mo's 4G may not be as theoretically fast as LTE or whatever else, but the 6 ~12 Mbps down is as good as I can do with anything right now.
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I'm finally getting real speeds after trying MetroPcsand Sprint. For me here in the Dallas area right on top of the airport, I'm now seeing up to 8.5 up. I'm pretty happy with that. I just plain never saw anything faster than 1.5in my town.....ever. And that was the first time I had my Indulge on metros system. I left for Sprint, who could never get past 1.0 Mbps, not once in three weeks of use. Went back to Metro and never saw anything past .5....apparently they are having systemwide issues right now.
I am esctatic over my speeds now. And I really am liking the other aspects I've seen of T mobile as well. Live people on the phone, the soon to be free wifi calling, and the in phone account info are all nice things. Their fees are right ion the middle.
And this phone......I have not had one issue (minor bleed)that others are reporting (yet?). I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop LOL.
As far as speeds, I have to inject my usual caveat here....
I'm not convinced on Speedtests accuracy. With all those low speeds reported, my device was usually functioning faster than Speedtest seemed to indicate. I mean on MetroPcs, the speedtest was saying .5, yet the page would load in 6 seconds or so. That's not modem speeds IMO. Not broadband speeds for sure, but not modem speeds.
Now this phone is fast! It loads a screen faster than my cheep laptop on fios broadband!
So I have to ask the op this....You say the speeds suck, but how is it actually functioning? Are your real world experiences really in line with your numbers? Do the pages load really slow? What experiences do you have with other carriers in your area?
For me, jumping around like I've been doing, its been a lot about the big picture. I was over all really happy with the Samsung Indulge. It's battery issues IMO are one of the worst in the industry. But they are being figured out. The issue for me was that I had to really battle with Samsung's customer service and the policy (?) of totally ignoring peoples questions. And then Metro started having the speed issues and won't acknowledge them as well.
I had a huge issue with Sprint regarding some outright lies they told me concerning joining them w/ my own phones and signing a contract. They refused to even throw me a bone even tho' IMO I was totally in the right. Then every person I spoke to was rude and uncaring. And my reception was awful. Bye bye.
My point is, there are going to be issues no matter where you go. Things should be looked at in their totality. People are upset about this phone, but I hear LG saying they know about them and are working to fix them. There are always gonna be people having connectivity issues....it's radio waves people. But three times I've called T mobile and three times I spoke with an american live person....win! And three times I left satisfied w/ my results. I've said several times, people are talking about being on their third and forth phones...how is that not great service? I'm sure LG and and T mobile are beside themselves over these issues, esp LG. This their flagship phone. You know they want it right.
I should have stopped typing after I asked the OP the question....sorry I can't help it. Imagine being my wife? After about two minutes of listening she gets this glassy look in her eyes ha ha!
I just think this phone and T mobile deserve a little defense. At this point, they're going to have to piss me off pretty bad, 'cause I'm very happy so far.
So my data speed sucks horribly. I have good 4g coverage in my town. I just got a new sim card. I'm not stuck on 2g networks. I have the 4g data plan. Nothing is fixing it. The Rep at the T-Mobile store couldn't help me. Tried to warranty my phone and they're out of stock so he offered me a galagy s... no thanks. I dunno what to do. Any suggestions?
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Are you inside of a building?
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Ive tried it in various places around town. While in a car, in houses, outside of houses. Out of town. I get the same VERY low data speed everywhere I try no matter where I am.
It's not your phone, it's t- mobile's crappy network. I had the same issue, connected to 4g but with Edge download speeds. They're upgrading some of their backbone connections, but at a slow pace. My speeds are getting better, but it took months to get somewhat acceptable speeds. Go to a t-mobile some and do some speed tests side by side with another mt4g and a galaxy s, you'll see the same speeds on all the phones.
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It's not your phone, it's t- mobile's crappy network. I had the same issue, connected to 4g but with Edge download speeds. They're upgrading some of their backbone connections, but at a slow pace. My speeds are getting better, but it took months to get somewhat acceptable speeds. Go to a t-mobile some and do some speed tests side by side with another mt4g and a galaxy s, you'll see the same speeds on all the phones.
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Well thats good news, sorta haha. I will have to check out what other phones at the store are getting next time im there. The rep with the Galaxy S didnt mention his was slow too, I would think that he would have if it was. Mine has been slow like this for 1-2 months now. Its getting ridiculous. I paid for 4G data speeds and im not getting them.
T-Mo's network just sucks a big one. I live a stone's throw away from their corporate HQ, in an area totally saturated with the strongest signal strength from all of their frequencies, and the fastest I can muster is 6Mb/s down. Realistic speeds are more like 2-3. So much for 14.4.
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T-Mo's network just sucks a big one. I live a stone's throw away from their corporate HQ, in an area totally saturated with the strongest signal strength from all of their frequencies, and the fastest I can muster is 6Mb/s down. Realistic speeds are more like 2-3. So much for 14.4.
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Well that 14.4 isnt the speed you will hit. Its like a 56k modem never hitting 56k. They are two different measurements of speed or some stupid technical babble.
Jon C said:
T-Mo's network just sucks a big one. I live a stone's throw away from their corporate HQ, in an area totally saturated with the strongest signal strength from all of their frequencies, and the fastest I can muster is 6Mb/s down. Realistic speeds are more like 2-3. So much for 14.4.
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I have yet to understand why in Vancouver, Washington I have managed to get >10mbps down yet even Portland (Where there's supposed to be 42mb theoretical) I hardly get above 2mbps.
And before someone asks, no I was not on wifi.
on a side note, I beat a thunderbolt that was on 4G LTE in a speed test in Portland. I was pretty happy when that happened.
I have two bars of HSDPA and just got a screaming 256k download. Just about average for around here, so you guys should be feeling pretty happy.
This is why I am unhappy... my speeds are never higher than this.
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So my data speed sucks horribly. I have good 4g coverage in my town. I just got a new sim card. I'm not stuck on 2g networks. I have the 4g data plan. Nothing is fixing it. The Rep at the T-Mobile store couldn't help me. Tried to warranty my phone and they're out of stock so he offered me a galagy s... no thanks. I dunno what to do. Any suggestions?
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I guess it would depend on what you mean by data sucks. Is it slow because of high network traffic like during the busy day or slower than normal?
Second, are you stock or running custom roms/kernel?
Third, if your not stock did you flash a different radio?
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I guess it would depend on what you mean by data sucks. Is it slow because of high network traffic like during the busy day or slower than normal?
Second, are you stock or running custom roms/kernel?
Third, if your not stock did you flash a different radio?
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I posted a screenshot of my speeds in the last post of page 1. Its always that slow no matter when or where in town I do it. I even tired it out of town and still have that same speed. It wasnt that slow until about 2-3 months ago. Im usually somewhere that has wifi so im not 100% sure when it happened so thats just a guess. I am not stock. I have tried different roms, kernels, and all the radio versions and they all produce the same speeds.
The people at the T-Mobile store won't say anything about slow speeds, either because they have no clue or it's simply not good marketing to openly admit your network sucks. As long as they see that "H" or "4G" icon by the notification area they're like "Look, 4G speed!". Be a bit patient if you can, if not, seek a different provider. They are continuously upgrading their network. I had a direct face to face conversation with one of T-mo's network engineers, he gave me a rough idea of when the speeds would increase, so far he was right. I'm still not getting proper "4G" speeds, but it's better than what I used to get. I went through a two month ordeal before someone finally came clean about what was happening. The phone support people were useless and didn't have a clue of what was happening, always giving me the run around and asking me to call back in 3 days. Finally, after pestering them for weeks, one of their engineers came to do some field testing right where I was. That's when I finally got the straight story of what the deal was.
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The people at the T-Mobile store won't say anything about slow speeds, either because they have no clue or it's simply not good marketing to openly admit your network sucks. As long as they see that "H" or "4G" icon by the notification area they're like "Look, 4G speed!". Be a bit patient if you can, if not, seek a different provider. They are continuously upgrading their network. I had a direct face to face conversation with one of T-mo's network engineers, he gave me a rough idea of when the speeds would increase, so far he was right. I'm still not getting proper "4G" speeds, but it's better than what I used to get. I went through a two month ordeal before someone finally came clean about what was happening. The phone support people were useless and didn't have a clue of what was happening, always giving me the run around and asking me to call back in 3 days. Finally, after pestering them for weeks, one of their engineers came to do some field testing right where I was. That's when I finally got the straight story of what the deal was.
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Its already been months. This is getting unacceptable. I am paying $30 a month for my 4G data plan and its nowhere near the speeds it should be. Its so slow that I cant even use the GPS without it popping up with a blank map because it can not load it fast enough. I am a big T-Mobile fan and I prefer the GSM networks but if this does not change I will have no choice but to go with a different carrier. Most likely ATT because I do not want to give up my SIM card ability.
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100% positive im not throttled. Went to the T-Mobile store yesterday and confirmed it. They checked my account and my phone settings and couldn't find any reason for the slow speeds.
Try looking into changing your radio. It helped me a ton. Now I get 4G almost everywhere. Check android development for more info.
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I have hit 10MBit down and ~3.5Mbit down in some areas while some areas I get EDGE speeds though it clearly says 4G. I might have to give a shot with the radio... reception on this phone is not as good as my MT3G.
Ive tried all radios and ive tried checking my speeds out of town and I get no difference. I ended up buying a MT4G off ebay that for some reason the owner couldnt load a rom to but it will boot to clockwork recovery and the bootloader. Im going to see if I can revive it and im going to test my speeds on it and see if its the hardware inside of my phone that is the problem.
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I ended up buying a MT4G off ebay that for some reason the owner couldnt load a rom to but it will boot to clockwork recovery and the bootloader. Im going to see if I can revive it and im going to test my speeds on it and see if its the hardware inside of my phone that is the problem.
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Make sure it's not one of those with the "e: can't mount cache" errors, or that it at least has the engineering bootloader on it, otherwise that phone is toast.
Hey XDA,
I want to start by saying I have searched XDA and have not found a thread with this particular information.
I have noticed that my 4G LTE speeds have slowed down quite a bit since March when the Thunderbolt was first released. During the first few days of having the phone I would never see speeds lower than 25Mbps. Lately I have only been reaching somewhere between 7-11Mbps.
Are other people in NYC experiencing this "throttling" of speed? Could it be due to the fact that the 4G towers are now saturated with more subscribers since there are now three 4G phones and more wireless usb cards/sticks?
I must also say that I am now on the MR2 (official) radio and I am running CM7 RC1.2. I don't believe it is a ROM issue since I can sometimes peak at speeds of 26Mbps but I won't sustain them.
I'm posting a poll to see what speeds people are experiencing. I hope this thread is useful to some.
If its a sustained issue, then I would venture to guess that indeed the towers are more saturated. Being in a huge metropolitan area like NYC, that wouldn't surprise me.
Your ROM shouldn't affect your LTE speed.
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Yeah that's one possibility I imagined. I notice that I get higher speeds during "off-peak" hours, but I never reach that 30Mbps I used to reach on day one.
Nonetheless, I still think Verizon LTE blows the competitors when it comes to speed here in NYC.
Oh yeah. Fastest network hands down. No one else comes close to Verizon's LTE speeds. Even at 15 mb/s...
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Verizon's LTE speed has always been advertised as 5-12mbps. The higher speeds you were receiving were due to low amount of devices on their network. Expect that range to be normal with anything higher a bonus.
https://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/mobilebroadband/?page=coverage
pure curiosity are you using the app to test the speed or going to speakeasy.net/speedtest
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pure curiosity are you using the app to test the speed or going to speakeasy.net/speedtest
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Wow. Forgot to check the web version. I'm getting about 10-15 Mbps on the Speedtest App and about 25-30 Mbps on the web version! Curious isn't it!? Maybe the app is still buggy?
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Wow. Forgot to check the web version. I'm getting about 10-15 Mbps on the Speedtest App and about 25-30 Mbps on the web version! Curious isn't it!? Maybe the app is still buggy?
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the app is very inconsistent but with the website check on Murray and Greenwich I pull in the typical 25+ down and 4.5+ up
Still going strong for me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdF3AnNc308
Could be a tower that my apt is connected to, otherwise it's usually between 16-40mbps all over NYC including Queens and Brooklyn. Upload could be better though.
My Droid Charge has never connected to 4g at my house which is located on the east side of the botanical gardens across from Bethabraham in fact its on 1xrtt right now.
And performance is inconsistent near Fordham Plaza. 90KB/s on minute and 280KB/s the next.
well this is my mentioned average from above...ill show the speakeasy.net result upon my return to work tomorrow night
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4g works great over by the VA hospital.
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Speedtest app shows much slower on CM7
On Sense ROMs the Speedtest app showed much faster speeds (> 15Mbps), but on CM7 it looks very slow (<2 Mbps today in fact). Speakeasy.net shows much faster (37 Mbps today). I can't say which is more accurate, but I definitely don't feel like network speeds are slower on CM. Any more reliable ways to test?
I'm also in NYC.
I believe that assuming that the Speedtest App works accurately on Sense-based ROMs. I have been running CM7 for weeks now.
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On Sense ROMs the Speedtest app showed much faster speeds (> 15Mbps), but on CM7 it looks very slow (<2 Mbps today in fact). Speakeasy.net shows much faster (37 Mbps today). I can't say which is more accurate, but I definitely don't feel like network speeds are slower on CM. Any more reliable ways to test?
I'm also in NYC.
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Just USB tether it. If you're paying for it, USB Connection Mode will give you the absolute best network performance as the phone becomes USB modem, and all the data functions on the phone itself halt and all the juice is passed to the PC.
All of this is wonderful, and I'd LOVE nothing more than to pull the trigger on Verizon LTE except for one small problem:
Assuming you get 10 Mbps download speeds, it would take you 136 minutes downloading at that speed to hit the 10GB data cap, the highest one Verizon offers.
Which by the way, cost you $80.
I'll settle for Clear Wireless at 3-4 Mbps with unlimited data for $45/month.
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All of this is wonderful, and I'd LOVE nothing more than to pull the trigger on Verizon LTE except for one small problem:
Assuming you get 10 Mbps download speeds, it would take you 136 minutes downloading at that speed to hit the 10GB data cap, the highest one Verizon offers.
Which by the way, cost you $80.
I'll settle for Clear Wireless at 3-4 Mbps with unlimited data for $45/month.
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All the more reason people should have jumped on unlimited while it was still around. 29.99 with 22% discount for all the data I choose to use
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All of this is wonderful, and I'd LOVE nothing more than to pull the trigger on Verizon LTE except for one small problem:
Assuming you get 10 Mbps download speeds, it would take you 136 minutes downloading at that speed to hit the 10GB data cap, the highest one Verizon offers.
Which by the way, cost you $80.
I'll settle for Clear Wireless at 3-4 Mbps with unlimited data for $45/month.
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Well I would double check the fine print on your clear contract as I'm almost pretty sure they throttle or cut off your data past a certain point. If they don't, you're still settling for subpar speeds that most wouldn't dare consider 4G.
Good luck!
NYC Verizon LTE upper limit real world speeds:
milan03, those are some impressive numbers!
I'm running CM 7.1.1 and I seem to be experiencing the problem with AOSP ROMs when running the Speedtest.net App. what's new (or maybe not) is that I just noticed under details that my connection type is eHRPD and NOT LTE. Could this be the cause of the slower speeds received using the app?
I also tried using the stock browser and obtained a significantly higher score in the low 20's Mbps.
I just started flickering in and out of 4g in South Bend Indiana.
ya heard
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I just started flickering in and out of 4g in South Bend Indiana.
ya heard
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Me too! I noticed it today while by Grape & Edison and also at my apt in Indian Lakes across from the new hospital. I did about a half dozen speed tests and although I did get one that was about 8mbps down, nearly all of them were <1mbps down, so it is very clear they are still testing it.
I was at Verizon on Douglas Rd. on Monday and they told me that they are working on it now and want to test for ND home games, but the guy wouldn't really give me a straight answer as to when it will be here fully working and ready to launch.
Yeah I'm on the south side of town and it is sporadic at best. Haven't tested speed, but we're getting closer to the 21st century around here for sure.
ya heard
I thought my phone was just acting up, but im over by the airport and has been on 4g since 6pm!! Downloads are hitting 3.4mps upload hit 1.1mps
I can't wait till they actually crank the speed up. In downtown Gary a couple months ago I was hitting 29Mbps down and about 12Mbps up!!!
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4g today at Notre Dame, and downtown, still 3g on the southeast side though.
ya heard
Same here
I noticed it at ND today (tested at 30mbps!) and when I drove back to my place at University Park Apts in Mishawaka, I dropped back to 3g near Douglass and 23.
Then, tonight I was trying to talk to my wife and she kept not being able to hear me but I could hear her. I looked at my phone and there was the LTE symbol. I had to force my Charge into CDMA only so I could use the phone. I did a quick test and got 11mbps. Definitely pumped to have it here. I had it in Chicago and other various places and its truly amazing.
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I noticed it at ND today (tested at 30mbps!) and when I drove back to my place at University Park Apts in Mishawaka, I dropped back to 3g near Douglass and 23.
Then, tonight I was trying to talk to my wife and she kept not being able to hear me but I could hear her. I looked at my phone and there was the LTE symbol. I had to force my Charge into CDMA only so I could use the phone. I did a quick test and got 11mbps. Definitely pumped to have it here. I had it in Chicago and other various places and its truly amazing.
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30Mbps is awesome. I got 4g off the verizon tower that is right next to university park apts cause I live in Indian lakes myself and bounce off that tower too, but no speeds like that.... Thats odd you didn't get it there. I work nights downtown (and it was in and out and slow here when it actually showed 4g on my phone) and I drive by Notre Dame on my way home so ill have to check it!
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Ok so today I still had LTE on campus, but tested at 13mbps. However, when I came home to University Park, I no longer have 4G. I dropped back to 3G while driving down Douglass just west of 23. So I didn't have it at the apartment during the day yesterday, had it overnight but with phone call issues, and now do not have it again during the day. Guessing this has to do with testing. Anyone care to guess? (had it at campus all day yesterday and today though)
Again, I have the Charge, so I am not sure if that has anything to do with it. Seems like the Charge has more issues than the Bolt with CDMA-LTE handoffs and such.
Ok, sorry for all the editing, but now I have LTE in my apartment again. Just tested at 6.6 mbps and then 8.3 mbps.
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Ok so today I still had LTE on campus, but tested at 13mbps. However, when I came home to University Park, I no longer have 4G. I dropped back to 3G while driving down Douglass just west of 23. So I didn't have it at the apartment during the day yesterday, had it overnight but with phone call issues, and now do not have it again during the day. Guessing this has to do with testing. Anyone care to guess? (had it at campus all day yesterday and today though)
Again, I have the Charge, so I am not sure if that has anything to do with it. Seems like the Charge has more issues than the Bolt with CDMA-LTE handoffs and such.
Ok, sorry for all the editing, but now I have LTE in my apartment again. Just tested at 6.6 mbps and then 8.3 mbps.
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Are you rooted? I am and the times I've seen 4g the speed tests have still been really slow. Thinking about going back to interrupt unrooted stock.... Just wondering if that would make a big difference
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Yes, I'm rooted. Are you using the speedtest.net app? If so, try out the actual website version. You will have to set the version to desktop (last option in the list under settings). Otherwise, it will just kick you to the market. Apparently there is something with the rooted kernels and the speedtest app that makes it show much slower speeds than the real ones. Let me know if you works for you.
I will try that tomorrow. Lately, when I do have 4G, it only lasts for a second and I can't even get my browser open fast enough to do a speedtest before it jumps back to 3G.
But I may go back to stock unrooted for a bit too.....
OK I just tried your way by going to Speedtest's full html site within the browser, and my test was only 1.01mbps with 4g. Fail.
I'm sure they are still testing it heavily, but I think I am still going to unroot tomorrow night and see if that makes a difference.
How did I miss this?
I just saw this on Verizon's news section. I didn't really notice any more reliability in the 3g network during gameday, but apparently 4G was kicked in for the football game. I don't have a 4G phone to take advantage of it, but if 4G is here to stay, it's perfect timing with the Droid Bionic on its way.
I attempted to post the source link, but I'm too new to do that. Just a quick google search for "south bend 4g verizon" will give it to you in the first link.
So only LTE for the campus?
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So only LTE for the campus?
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I don't think they could really restrict it to that small an area even if they wanted to.
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OK I just tried your way by going to Speedtest's full html site within the browser, and my test was only 1.01mbps with 4g. Fail.
I'm sure they are still testing it heavily, but I think I am still going to unroot tomorrow night and see if that makes a difference.
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Wouldn't rely on any speed test for an area that is just starting to see signal especially one that isn't receiving signal full time yet.
And rooting has nothing to do with radio function, is just a means of being able to access your entire system, if you are a Windows person just think of having root as having administrator privileges, aka you can add/delete/modify your system as you wish.
I live about 8 mins from ND and finally went down there tonight to test the LTE while sitting on campus with my Thunderbolt.......did 3 tests at 2 different locations on campus....O M G !
Really kills me that I cannot get these speeds 8 minutes away at my apt!
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Finally!
4G starting to get somewhat consistent for me just east of Main St. in Mishawaka, IN.....it's not head-turning fast, my speedtests range from 3-11mbps down and 2-6mbps up.
Anyone else out there close to me getting good results? I know LTE on campus at ND is BLAZING (see previous post, my tests from early Sept.)......I kinda hope they are still working on the kinks and it will get a little faster since the official launch isn't supposed to be until tomorrow......
Got my N5 over lunch, and got it set up.
Coming from HSPA+42 on my HTC One S, I immediately installed Speedtest app to see what I get now. Boy was I disappointed.
1. It has trouble actually completing any tests. Half the time it ends in "Network Communications Issues" error message.
2. When it DOES complete a test, it's disappointing on the speed. I've gotten a max of 10mbps down, and 2mbps up. This doesn't make any sense, as my One S was able to get 7mbps down and 5-6mbps up.
Anyone else dealing with this? The phone's great, but I swear, if T-Mobile is gonna F up this whole LTE implementation, I'm gonna be royally pissed.
Are your APN settings correct?
Also, wrong section, this belongs in the Q&A section.
my tmobile was activated in store, so i'm not sure if that matters, but i have had no issues since switching this morning. solid LTE connection pulling down 15mbps pretty consistently
LTE working fine on T-Mobile here. Maybe it's a bad simcard?
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Got my N5 over lunch, and got it set up.
Coming from HSPA+42 on my HTC One S, I immediately installed Speedtest app to see what I get now. Boy was I disappointed.
1. It has trouble actually completing any tests. Half the time it ends in "Network Communications Issues" error message.
2. When it DOES complete a test, it's disappointing on the speed. I've gotten a max of 10mbps down, and 2mbps up. This doesn't make any sense, as my One S was able to get 7mbps down and 5-6mbps up.
Anyone else dealing with this? The phone's great, but I swear, if T-Mobile is gonna F up this whole LTE implementation, I'm gonna be royally pissed.
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I tested T-mobile's HSPA+ and LTE on the Nexus 5, HTC One, and Moto X, all side by side and running concurrently with the tests repeated frequently throughout the day. The Nexus 5 did just as good as the others and had a trend towards better speeds (the N5 still has the fastest speed I've gotten at my work of all 3 devices). The reception is also slightly better on the Nexus 5 over the other two phones, averaging about 10-15 dB better than the Moto X which is the worst of the 3 devices.
T-mobile's network, from my experience, does not offer consistently fast data throughput. I can run speed tests back-to-back and get a 10-fold change in data speeds. It doesn't seem to impact actual performance enough for me to notice, but it'll be reflected on all the tests I run. I think the device is perfectly fine.
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LTE working fine on T-Mobile here. Maybe it's a bad simcard?
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Bad simcard couldn't possibly be the cause of a data conectivity issue. If it was a bad SIM, the whole connection (data, voice, SMS, MMS, etc) would fail, so I know there's no issue there. Plus, it's been working fine in my One S (though a bit slow on T-Mo's HSPA+ network). This same issue also happened on my GF's N5 last night when I was testing hers out.
Also, for the first response -- yes, APN is by default set to fast.tmobile. I checked that first to make sure it wasn't set to EPC instead.
LTE is working great on TMO for me. I'm getting about 10-11mb down and 6-8mb up. I'm not really close to a tower either, their network is mostly in the city area - I'm just outside of it by a few miles. I didn't modify anything on my phone -just popped my sim out of my Nexus 4 and put it in my Nexus 5.
Must be you.
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Must be you.
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i just jizzed my pants
My speed test were just like yours op. Not sure if its the phone or my APN settings but the Nokia 521 that I had prior had better speeds. Its especially noticeable and slow when it goes in h mode.
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Jealous
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What city was that in?
My T-Mobile LTE speed tests here in Indianapolis are crap compared to that .
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What city was that in?
My T-Mobile LTE speed tests here in Indianapolis are crap compared to that .
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San Jose. The Bay area is pretty great with T-Mo coverage
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San Jose. The Bay area is pretty great with T-Mo coverage
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Wow, I wish I was getting those speeds on TMO in the Bay Area. I can't even get LTE in most of Los Gatos. Wonder if it's because I'm on prepaid....
I am also having the same problem. I have the $30 plan and in the DC area. On the upload test, sometimes I get "Network Communication Issue" error and sometimes when I am successful. On the successful attempt, for the first seconds or so, I get good speed but then it just died and drop the overall speed to at most 2.5 Mbps.
I am getting "Network communications issues" as well. My apn is fast.t-mobile.com. I am in the Baltimore area. Interestingly I get this more in the areas where my signal is strongest.
Edit: For me, when it fails it's always the upload test that fails. I just ran another test and got 22 down/1.13 up. Since the upload speed was much lower than normal I ran the test again and that time the upload test failed again.
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I tested T-mobile's HSPA+ and LTE on the Nexus 5, HTC One, and Moto X, all side by side and running concurrently with the tests repeated frequently throughout the day. The Nexus 5 did just as good as the others and had a trend towards better speeds (the N5 still has the fastest speed I've gotten at my work of all 3 devices). The reception is also slightly better on the Nexus 5 over the other two phones, averaging about 10-15 dB better than the Moto X which is the worst of the 3 devices.
T-mobile's network, from my experience, does not offer consistently fast data throughput. I can run speed tests back-to-back and get a 10-fold change in data speeds. It doesn't seem to impact actual performance enough for me to notice, but it'll be reflected on all the tests I run. I think the device is perfectly fine.
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Yeah, I second this one. Up until sometime late last winter/early spring I got REALLY GOOD HSPA+ with an n4, and then suddenly it went ENTIRELY into the crapper, as in mostly useless in a worse way than Sprint. i.e. seemingly good one second crap the next(T-mo HSPA+) v. just totally crap(Sprint).
With the n5, I no longer have the HSPA+ dropouts on LTE, but bandwidth is no better than the best it ever was on HSPA+, which in reality, is fine with me as I only use it when not at home/work/somewhere with REAL low latency broadband(although I must admit that at home I have comcraptic, which I really don't consider real given the variability in latency and bandwidth which I consider to be unacceptable even for home use given the wide variation/cost of "product").
That said T-mo since sometime early this year was utter **** on HSPA+ while beforehand it was pretty awesomely good. LTE gets me only back to where the "awesome" was and ain't awesome at ALL for LTE, but better than Sprint or AT&T, as Verizon crushes all comers overall(gotta love full signal in the boondocks of BFE upper peninsula... not dropping out in underpasses(AT&T), etc.) .
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Oh yeah, by HSPA+ "awesome" I'm talking:
60-120ms pings(test server coupla miles away)
c. 8Mbps on a "good" day down
c. 2Mbps on a "good" day up
And theoretically, I'm in a VERY good/EXCELLENT coverage area... so it's like I got very good HSPA+ then crap HSPA+ then crap LTE that was about as "good" as very good HSPA+... [EDIT2] I'm NO WAY NEAR those 20+ Mbps bandwidth tests, never have been... [/EDIT2]
Still better than my alternatives for the price though I guess... voice/messaging works as well as Sprint/Verizon, data is WAY WAY WAY better than Sprint, voice messaging is WAY/WAY/WAY better than AT&T, and then welp we're done with our choices... (although I expect a cap R when in the boondocks of the UP... v. full signal no R, OTOH it's a bit cheaper... which ATM is a factor...)
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I wasn't getting LTE at all on my phone, got a new sim card and that fixed the problem. The guys at my t-mo store were super helpful.
I am also receiving the "Network communications issues" error when testing my speed. It will hover around 5 - 6 Mbps downstream and before the test can finish it will say "Network communications issues". I am on T-Mobile's LTE in Milwaukee. APN setting is "fast.t-mobile.com" which is the recommended setting for LTE speeds by T-Mobile.
Edit: I am using a nano sim that I had recently got and am using a micro sim adapter.
Count me in!
I also get "network communications issues". It always happens on upload. Never had this on the N4.
I get 6-8 Mbps download and 1-4 Mbps upload on T-mobile LTE. Upload always spikes the first couple seconds and then stays consistently low.
I am using a full size sim card that I cut down to micro size. I also have two micro sims I ordered from Tmobile. I'll give one of those a try at the end of my month to see if that makes a difference.