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Why flash roms?

So I was just wondering why would we flash roms? I mean the current stock os is almost bug free + when flashing roms we are faced with some major bugs sometimes.
I know that we would have the choice to remove bloatware, cutomise status bar, and sometime oc. That's all nice but still I don't see why not leave it as is?
Please excuse my ignorance. I just came from a rooted Dinc w/ miui
And I wanna have a better understanding.
Thanks
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/05/01/custom-roms-for-android-explained-and-why-you-want-them/

For me it's the freedom to do with my phone what I want. These developers kick out some sweet features that we'll never see from a stock ROM, and they get us the latest software before the manufacturers. I bug here or there is well worth it for me, and if it's to bad you can always revert. If you prefer the stock experience, than by all means leave it alone. But me, I'm a tinkerer. Be it a car, truck, bike... or yes, even a phone, I can't leave well enough alone.

Because we can

To pick up chicks......I haven't met one yet that's not turned on by 48+ mflops!
Can't do that with stock.....

This might seem like an odd answer... I flash so I can have a standard interface on my phones. I've had a droid, droid x, and thunderbolt in the last year and a half (my company does some android development on in house apps for one of our clients, and we go through a lot of test phones). having something close to a stock interface minimizes the daily annoyances of moving between those phones.... which is why I use the aosp roms.
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iakamand said:
So I was just wondering why would we flash roms? I mean the current stock os is almost bug free + when flashing roms we are faced with some major bugs sometimes.
I know that we would have the choice to remove bloatware, cutomise status bar, and sometime oc. That's all nice but still I don't see why not leave it as is?
Please excuse my ignorance. I just came from a rooted Dinc w/ miui
And I wanna have a better understanding.
Thanks
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Wait, you came from a phone that you rooted and flashed MIUI on, but don't understand why others choose to not stay stock

Why??? that's not the correct question. The correct question is why not!

g00s3y said:
Wait, you came from a phone that you rooted and flashed MIUI on, but don't understand why others choose to not stay stock
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My thoughts exactly.
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hey guys...i'm coming from virus' latest synergy rom with sense 3.0 overclocked to 1.4 and i'm wondering...why do you guys root your phone anyways?????

patdroid1 said:
hey guys...i'm coming from virus' latest synergy rom with sense 3.0 overclocked to 1.4 and i'm wondering...why do you guys root your phone anyways?????
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I'm in the same boat. I just can't figure it out.

Cuz girls dig guys who flash roms

Pretty simple, I get rid of most of the stock crap, my battery lasts 30 to 40% longer, and it allows some independence
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New injectheory out!!
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That's simple: more crackflashing = less crack smoking.
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My Tbolt rebooted 3-4 times a day after the OTA update.
Hadn't had any reboots with MR2 and now MR2.5 radio and various roms.

Funny
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I rooted mine so people that smoke too much crack could ask me why

For me? Customization and battery life.

Number 1 reason on the Thunderbolt ... I prefer AOSP/CM7 over Sense.

Gingerbread Video- what's new in the update

I took the liberty of showing you guys what gingerbread looks like- on video. New features include Android 2.3.4 (but no video chat on G-Talk?), new T-Mo bloatware, quick settings, etc. check it out!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndgl2u2y_8g

Thank goodness YouTube has a mute button.
Thanks for the vid. I could be wrong, but isn't this the first Sense ROM to have Android 2.3.4? Every other version of Sense I've seen has had 2.3.3. Cool!

Thanks I can't wait til this update gets to my phone
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thanks for the video

Thanks dude, the update doesn't look like it changed much...They could have at least given us the 3.0 lockscreen and change the dock. I hate that dock...

Thanks for the video nice to see what we are going to get

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Thank goodness YouTube has a mute button.
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Thank God for that, good vid tthough. Reminds me why I wont EVER go back to mysense unless its the MT4GS
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Good video i have a question my gf got the mt4 and I'm wondering is your phone screen is that unresponsive from the update or its just the phone.
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bonebeatz1234 said:
Good video i have a question my gf got the mt4 and I'm wondering is your phone screen is that unresponsive from the update or its just the phone.
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First, thanks guys! I'm glad you guys appreciate the video, and for the record this is the ROM that was leaked on Monday, but it's the same as the one T-Mo is rolling out
and my screen works fine, it's just harder to use when your making a video the update didn't do anything screen wise

bonebeatz1234 said:
Good video i have a question my gf got the mt4 and I'm wondering is your phone screen is that unresponsive from the update or its just the phone.
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My screen is very responsive running on Virtuous Unity. I noticed that too on the video. I'd hope an update wouldn't make your screen unresponsive. He may not have been touching right those few times. Also, some apps get like that from time to time where they get a little unresponsive

so basically nothing changed like i dont really see a difference looks wise i mean i would rather flash and all so i can get nice themes and all

truckerdewd said:
My screen is very responsive running on Virtuous Unity. I noticed that too on the video. I'd hope an update wouldn't make your screen unresponsive. He may not have been touching right those few times. Also, some apps get like that from time to time where they get a little unresponsive
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It's true, when I tried pulling down Quick Settings I was pulling on the MyTouch logo, and other times just too little touch

iDylan1357 said:
It's true, when I tried pulling down Quick Settings I was pulling on the MyTouch logo, and other times just too little touch
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Kewl. I guess it's like when you hit the wrong letter on the keyboard
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Good review. Btw whats that song?

michael2041 said:
Good review. Btw whats that song?
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Turn Around Pt. 2- Flo Rida

I noticed that they changed the camera as well, it now has more effects. The calculator has been tweaked as well. And this may be just me, but the battery life seems better. I'm still in green and usually by now I'm in yellow.

Has there been any issues from the OTA update, other than not being able to root? Has the suspend issue been fixed?

I love the fact it has the "4G" instead of "H"
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Thanks for the video!
I was really hoping for video chat...
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(but no video chat on G-Talk?)
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Royal ginger comes with g chat.
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Who cares about gingerbread?

Why does everyone always ***** about gingerbread? My phone got it recently and nothing has changed except for the fact that I can say I have gingerbead.I don't even have the cool screen off animation that would totally be worth it because HTC sucks. If you want gingerbread so badly then root your phone and shut up. And Im talking to all the people on Android blog's who complain about not getting gingerbread yet. If it was ics then people would have a reason to complain but since its not even a good upgrade.
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Makes your phone run faster
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It's not noticeable.
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Gingerbread brings many advancements under the hood you don't grasp - such as improved Dalvik garbage collection and better power management.
As far as the screen off animation - did you bother to even see if you could enable it in display options? It's typically disabled by default.
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Why does everyone always ***** about gingerbread? My phone got it recently and nothing has changed except for the fact that I can say I have gingerbead.I don't even have the cool screen off animation that would totally be worth it because HTC sucks. If you want gingerbread so badly then root your phone and shut up. And Im talking to all the people on Android blog's who complain about not getting gingerbread yet. If it was ics then people would have a reason to complain but since its not even a good upgrade.
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1. gingerbread outperforms froyo (especially custom roms using gb); you dont like gb go back to froyo
2. you want the cool screen off animation, flash cm7, not htc's fault dont blame them
3. maybe those people that are complaining want official gb, not some unofficial, buggy custom rom
4. did you really make this thread to rant? i see no point in you making this thread unless you're trying to hit 10 posts

Starting to hate my phone :@

Hey guys im really starting to hate this phone at first i was like ok maybe its me used to having better devices but this whole week this phone its acting up and really slow and apps lags a lot. Im on the stock 2.3.6 with the kj1 kernel and the adrenaline shot v12. I dont really get it. Why im having all this problems. I can honestly say that my old vibrant, g2x, my touch4g,iphone 3gs, iphone 4 and even the lg optimus and the moto cliq xt,works a lot better stable and faster than this phone the worst phone ever for me. Looking forward to another device. Thinking a lot going back to att and buying the iphone 4s
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daworship said:
Hey guys im really starting to hate this phone at first i was like ok maybe its me used to having better devices but this whole week this phone its acting up and really slow and apps lags a lot. Im on the stock 2.3.6 with the kj1 kernel and the adrenaline shot v12. I dont really get it. Why im having all this problems. I can honestly say that my old vibrant, g2x, my touch4g,iphone 3gs, iphone 4 and even the lg optimus and the moto cliq xt,works a lot better stable and faster than this phone the worst phone ever for me. Looking forward to another device. Thinking a lot going back to att and buying the iphone 4s
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*favepalm*
Rly?
The phone is not guilty that your arms grow from your ass.
Iphone, yes go buy an iphone and we'll have with a noob, idiot and troll less at the same time.
If you want to be helped, explain your issue with more details and less of these words:
1 omg
2 ****
3 worst phone ever
4 other personal comments.
If your phone lags as you say, and you are on gingerbread, you should do more research.
Want a tip?
Everytime the phone lags, random reboots or you have other problems or issues- simply Odin your phone and you won =)
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Look mom i went to this forum and talk a lot of crap to a guy i dont even know, ju ju im so cool!!! (butt-head voice) thats what your comment means to me.
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daworship said:
Look mom i went to this forum and talk a lot of crap to a guy i dont even know, ju ju im so cool!!! (butt-head voice) thats what your comment means to me.
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Strange, I have the same feeling....
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do a factory reset 3 times and clear caches 3 times. i would say just a bad flash. my phone runs super fast and smooth.

Look i didnt want to be rude or anything im just having a hard time with this phone. And ive done eveything i know to fix it, Odin stock 2.2.1 , stock 2.3.4 and stock2.3.6 and valhalla and octane via cwm. But i dont know what it is that everytime im done installing my apps and games the phone acts up. I have the link2sd running i have the fota fix i have the battery calibrate and like i said the kj1 kernel and the adrenaline shot v12. i dont know whats wrong is it an app? a game? I really dont know and another thing is whats the best rom for this device and should i leave it like it is or shliud i install other things with it. Thats really my question.
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Try the version XIX of the shot. I got better results than with version 12.
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From a clean install I have been on Valhalla... but until the latest universal adrenaline it did not seem the way I thought it should. Now my phone flies.
I'd be willing to bet your issues stem from a bad app causing an issue... have you researched that at all?
I would also encourage installing QuickPic and freezing the stock gallery... it is a CPU HOG!! QuickPic is liter and has a ton more options. I'm not affiliated... just noticed the stock gallery at times could take 50-60% of the CPU, even when I was not using it. F that.
Also, the newest Valhalla will be built off the newest OFFICIAL gingerbread... and we have source now for GB... so, things are on the up and up. Hold on to the phone for a bit.

I've noticed (at least for me) that restoring data through titanium gives me force close issues sometimes.
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Hiya.
I think that if you start a thread with I hate my phone, you should expect more than flaming. It would be better that if you did your research and didn't found what you want. Then how about starting your post with something more detailed or, what you did to your phone in steps, to see if someone could help you in better way. Also I've seen a lot in this forum from people demanding, using every gibberish word that they could find, and SO they still get helped.
There're still few good fellas out there that love to help no matter what words you use.
My 2 cents

daworship said:
Look mom i went to this forum and talk a lot of crap to a guy i dont even know, ju ju im so cool!!! (butt-head voice) thats what your comment means to me.
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This perfectly summarizes your original post in this thread. You'd get more help if you made a post actually asking for help, instead of just bashing the phone. There are many of us here that have zero lag, and very smooth running apps.
everytime im done installing my apps and games the phone acts up.
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There are a couple of things that can cause this. but some more info is needed about your phone.

I believe your problem is that you are using the Link2sd app. It has been my experience that it does not play well with Gingerbread. It has given me problems when I link to my external SDcard.
Someone please correct me if I am wrong but the last I heard Link2sd doesn't work properly on Gingerbread regarding EXT4 on the external SDcard?

Do you have your voodoo enabled?
Just asking..

So i should get rid of the link2sd app?? and what about using another kernel like kj1 and the adrenaline shot XIX?? and yes the voodoo is enable. Anothet thing if i just use the fota fix apk to get more internal memory. Can i install most of my apps?? right now i have like 25 apps besides the stock ones
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Jerry D said:
I believe your problem is that you are using the Link2sd app. It has been my experience that it does not play well with Gingerbread. It has given me problems when I link to my external SDcard.
Someone please correct me if I am wrong but the last I heard Link2sd doesn't work properly on Gingerbread regarding EXT4 on the external SDcard?
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I've been using Link2Sd for about 2 weeks now on both Valhalla and Octane, and I have not had any problems at all. I just let it move the Apps automatically and then I use the Create Link feature and it does the rest. I have 92 Apps and I still have around 250mb of space left.
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Try again
I don't get the flame, either. You're having problems with your phone and came looking for advice (I assume). This is my sixth phone and I like the SGS4G quite a bit. I suggest you flash again with the stock KD1, then flash the Samsung released 2.3.6. There is an Odin-friendly tar on another thread in Q&A that was started today or yesterday. Should be easy to find. (I also that on my Win7 machine I can retrieve the tarball from the download cache completed through kies mini and use that.) NO overclocking I get quadrant scores in the 17-1900 range. The scrolling between panes is smooth, my wifi is good at home (personal security) and in my office (enterprise security). I have a bit under 80 contacts, I do e-mail, messaging, facebook, maps, browsing, market browsing, music player, ... angry birds and a couple other games for giggles. I have been pretty impressed.
daworship said:
Hey guys im really starting to hate this phone at first i was like ok maybe its me used to having better devices but this whole week this phone its acting up and really slow and apps lags a lot. Im on the stock 2.3.6 with the kj1 kernel and the adrenaline shot v12. I dont really get it. Why im having all this problems. I can honestly say that my old vibrant, g2x, my touch4g,iphone 3gs, iphone 4 and even the lg optimus and the moto cliq xt,works a lot better stable and faster than this phone the worst phone ever for me. Looking forward to another device. Thinking a lot going back to att and buying the iphone 4s
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---------- Post added at 12:13 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:00 AM ----------
I would still start as close to "scratch" as possible, clear cache, factory reset, load KD1, let it sit and does its thing a bit (5-10 minutes?). Load the oem gingerbread release and again let it do its thing a bit. Before you load your first app, run the stock ones, like the crappy browser and see what kind of performnace you're seeing. Init wifi and see how that performs. Put it through its paces as a stock device. If you have really bad performance on a "pristine" device, maybe you got a bad device. I have come to expect a certain number of brand new workstations I roll out at work to be clunkers. Maybe you ogt one. Anyway, if it performs okay as a stock device, load you apps one at a time and pause to test the effects of the new install.
Good luck!
relase
daworship said:
So i should get rid of the link2sd app?? and what about using another kernel like kj1 and the adrenaline shot XIX?? and yes the voodoo is enable. Anothet thing if i just use the fota fix apk to get more internal memory. Can i install most of my apps?? right now i have like 25 apps besides the stock ones
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champ1919 said:
I've noticed (at least for me) that restoring data through titanium gives me force close issues sometimes.
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Same here. At least with gingerbread.
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Link2SD is 100% the culprit. why don't you start over and even repartition using pit.

airfluip1 said:
Link2SD is 100% the culprit. why don't you start over and even repartition using pit.
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Thanks for the tip. Im using your latest build and im happy now my phone its working great.
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daworship said:
Hey guys im really starting to hate this phone at first i was like ok maybe its me used to having better devices but this whole week this phone its acting up and really slow and apps lags a lot. Im on the stock 2.3.6 with the kj1 kernel and the adrenaline shot v12. I dont really get it. Why im having all this problems. I can honestly say that my old vibrant, g2x, my touch4g,iphone 3gs, iphone 4 and even the lg optimus and the moto cliq xt,works a lot better stable and faster than this phone the worst phone ever for me. Looking forward to another device. Thinking a lot going back to att and buying the iphone 4s
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i hear you. i've hated it after one day. it was hard for me coming from htc (n1, hd2) to sgs4g. it doesn't feel solid hardware-software marriage. and it is strange bcz you'd expect more from samsung.
in the end it's a subjective feeling, so don't expect crowd of support. everyone has his own experience.
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All those satisfied with g2x GTFIH

Now i know LG abandoned this ship. I'm just as pissed off as the next guy about that one. I wouldn't mind an official jb or at least an ics update. But either way, I'm honestly quite satisfied with this phone and its performance. I'm running standard cm7 nightlies (latest) with Trinity t15 kernel and wolf script mod. Battery life is decent and bad when i whore wifi but that's the biggest iissue with my g2x. With all the hate threads around this forum there have to be others who have positive experiences with this device.

This phone is awesome. Since I started carrying around my portable nuclear power plant all my battery issues are gone.
Seriously though, if you use the phone the battery will drop. That is a law of physics you can't avoid. My problem with this phone was that with stock ROM the battery dropped a lot even when I did absolutely nothing. CM7 solved that, so I am happy.
I still don't get sufficient standby life so I am working on fixing an old HTC amaze (fixed bootloop, now waiting for screen to arrive). My wife's amaze can get over 4 days of standby and I just noticed that she has not rebooted it in close to 400 hours.
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Believe you me... Apple suggested LG for Nexus 4

4 days of standby time? Sorry this is the g2x forum I don't know what that means.
Lol that's crazy!
I have about six months left until I'm available for an upgrade. Thinking the new s4, razor or nexus.

I agree this is still a pretty slick phone. I'm loving the dual boot setup with CM7/Trinity ELP as my runner and CM10.1 as my gaming/test platform. I'd probably be way more disappointed with the phone if I was stuck with stock software, but thanks to the awesome devs and their work I'm very happy with this phone.
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For sure, if it weren't for the devs, we'd be screwed lol

Pain-N-Panic said:
4 days of standby time? Sorry this is the g2x forum I don't know what that means.
Lol that's crazy!
I have about six months left until I'm available for an upgrade. Thinking the new s4, razor or nexus.
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I will try to take a snapshot and post it here for the disbelievers ... lol.
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I am currently running cm7 with Mazout360's kernel and wolfscript. I have themed my phone to be as similar to ICS/JB as possible, as that was the only way I could return to GB. I am very content with how it turned out.
In the end, I have accepted that I will probably never have fully functioning ICS or JB on this phone. But, I guess all that I was really looking for was that updated look and crisp feel, which I have since obtained!
Although I will move on to some sort of Nexus when I have better funding, I am satisfied with the g2x.
The only problem I seem to have with cm7 is this noticeable static flicker that appears very quickly after turning on the display. It only seems to do that with cm7 roms.

EricTheLuminant said:
I am currently running cm7 with Mazout360's kernel and wolfscript. I have themed my phone to be as similar to ICS/JB as possible, as that was the only way I could return to GB. I am very content with how it turned out.
In the end, I have accepted that I will probably never have fully functioning ICS or JB on this phone. But, I guess all that I was really looking for was that updated look and crisp feel, which I have since obtained!
Although I will move on to some sort of Nexus when I have better funding, I am satisfied with the g2x.
The only problem I seem to have with cm7 is this noticeable static flicker that appears very quickly after turning on the display. It only seems to do that with cm7 roms.
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Not trying to hijack the thread, but is it possible to get the jellybean notification bar on gingerbread? Like with notifications you can swipe away and quick message replies to texts and all that. That might be the only thing keeping me on jellybean right now because I love the way it feels so intuitive and such.
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I can swipe away notifications, that's something GB can do already I think. As for quick replys to messages and emails and such, I don't think so.
At least as far as I know.
I miss those features too, but I guess we can't have everything.
There are apps for pop up notifications though.

I can also swipe away notifications. Actually i found that out on mistake, had a few too many whisky cokes and tried responding to a text and swiped it away lol

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I can also swipe away notifications. Actually i found that out on mistake, had a few too many whisky cokes and tried responding to a text and swiped it away lol
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Oh I went straight from Froyo on my old Optimus V to Jellybean on the G2X (I rooted and installed Paranoid Android right away) so I thought swipe notifications was a Jellybean thing. I'll install a Gingerbread ROM when I get back from work and try to make it look and feel like JB.
On topic, yes I'm very satisfied with my G2X, but that might also be because I wasnt expecting a high end phone when I bought it from eBay a few months ago. Also I have a Nexus 7 for any apps that I use that require a hardware accelerated jellybean.
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AFAIK swipe notifications is a CM7 thing in GB ROMs.
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The g2x works best if you chant "humba lumba humba" while standing on one leg!

I though problems would be fixed by updates.
And once rooted and a with custom rom
Everything was going to be working good like the days of the HTC G1.
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Can't wait till the Nexus 5 comes out. I'm gonna buy it and forget about this phone.
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plasmamax1 said:
Can't wait till the Nexus 5 comes out. I'm gonna buy it and forget about this phone.
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I'm saving up

I'm wanting to get the new blackberry q10. That thing looks sick. Waiting until tmobile has it.
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For those of you who are content with cm7, even though it is old software, I am working on my "Speedster" rom. It is still quite alpha but my goals is to optimize CM7 for our G2xs. I am also doing a bunch of software updates inside and using Mazkrnl to have speed and stability. I use the latest ADW launcher in it and JB sounds so it really gives CM7 new life and gives it a great CM10 feel. I can't do anything about play store, still limited to 2.3 aps. No google keep/now

Pie, I'm willing to flash your rom whenever its out of the alpha stage. Or let me know if you need a tester

I use this for the theme.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2003484
And this guide for everything else.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19705898#post19705898

Are any of you good themers because I would like some help with that so I can focus on software and hardware optimization.
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