I am looking at buying my first Wp7 handset but I am unsure whether to wait on for the Mango release devices or dive in now?
I already have 2 other phones so I am not going to break the bank so I have boiled down my choices to the LG Optimus 7 or the HTC Trophy - any input on which to go for would be helpful.
I understand that MS manages all software upgrades but looking at their update page it does seem that operators are managing the updates - is this correct?
If I buy a unbranded sim free version would this mean I get the updates direct from MS?
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Considering getting a non-contract unlocked T-Mobile (HTC) G2, and running it on AT&T for the trial period, but I've realized I don't understand how OTA updates work if you're on the non-native carrier.
Is it done from the OS to the manufacturer (device talks to HTC and it all just works), or is it device-to-walled-garden-server (device won't update unless it's on T-Mobile US with active service) or some strange mix of those modes, or...?
Thanks.
You shouldn't need to use OTA if you use the manufacturers software+drivers on your pc, you will be able to upgrade that way (make sure it recognise's your device) as far as I know OTA is just a way of upgrading without connecting via pc, some networks release firmware updates for customers this way but if you keep an eye on here then I can assure you, you wont miss any available improvements
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All the U.S. Cdma carriers were late with the first wave of wp7 devices. I'm with Verizon and we didn't get the HTC Trophy until June. Sprint got HTC arrive a couple month earlier but by the time those devices were released in the U.S. they were already year old devices.
So 6 months later GSM is getting the roll out of the mango phones with front facing cameras and those of us with cdma arrives and trophies are looking with no signs of a cdma wp7 with a ff cam in sight. What gives?
How come HTC and Samsung aren't making cdma variants of their phones they give carriers and bringing them to cdma carriers? Like how they brought variants of the HTC touch pro 2 and the HTC evo to all the carriers?
Anyone else getting angry with the lackluster cdma support? Why aren't they launching more phones than just the ones that seemingly come out annually?
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My bet is that Sprint and Verizon are effectively done with bringing CDMA phones to market and they don't want a new phone unless it is an iPhone or 4G (LTE and/or WiMax).
I expect Verizon phones once LTE support hits with Tango.
It'll be spring.
I, for one, am really happy VZW got a 3G WP7 phone. I am in an area that prob will get LTE in the LAST phase of any roll out (we got 3G in Oct 2010). I was also able to get it before the end of unlimited data.
What is killing me isn't carrier support, but hack support. I would love to developed a ROM for the HTC Trophy, but I have the CDMA Verizon version, and it has yet to be unlocked.
I know part of this is that the unlock devs are in China and do not have access to the CDMA Trophy.. but it seems no one wants to get together and buy/send them a Trophy CDMA to work on. :/
I know I can't afford it myself.. and for some reason the price has increased on Amazon Wireless (the phone alone was going for $388, now its $479)... but perhaps if a bunch of us chipped in we could send them one.
I have talked to mwang and cotulla and offered to buy them both Verizon trophies . They have both told me that they have cdma devices in hand and are currently testing .. I know it's taking a while , but the good news is that it IS being worked on . I want a DFT rom as bad as anyone ...hell id settle for interop unlock .. I suppose we just have to be patient .
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Well, it's good to know that its a work in progress. I just pray that the unlock will be based on the 7.5 rom.. many people got burnt by installing the demo rom... (well, maybe you could base it on the demo rom??). The only way to get rid of the demo rom was to install the leaked 7.5 rom (I was refused RMA because of the demo).
Oh well, if I have to go back to the demo just to unlock, I'll pray that is a workable option (many can't unlock after getting 7.5 roms).
Well, there simply are much less CDMA carriers in the world than there are GSM/UMTS ones. Given that Verizon and Sprint seem not to be too much into WP7 that explains why developing those devices is a low priority to the manufacturers.
It is a bit strange considering the Sprint Touch Pro/TP2 were the more popular devices back in the WM days then any of the other carrier devices. Now with the Arrive being almost a direct successor of the Touch Pro 2, you would think it would have gotten the same dedicated treatment, sadly, this is not the case. I do hope Sprint continues with the Arrive and whatever comes next has the same keyboard and a more refined design with the Titan like upgrades.
A 4" screen with the same keyboard, 1.5Ghz processor, and all the other Mango bells and whistles would be grand.
The most frank response is very simple:
The entire world uses GSM.
I know of all of two, maybe three countries where there are even CDMA networks. If I was making a phone, I wouldn't even be thinking about CDMA unless I was selling millions of units and expansion was easiest by using the inferior (whether true or not technologically, CMDA is inferior in a pure business sense) technology.
I know this is true too.
I can't wait for LTE to roll out and put Verizon on the same playing field as most of the world, but I also know that my area will likely be the last, even if it is being used as the primary example of how broadband internet needs to be pushed out to rural areas.
I mean, the other carriers in this area just plain don't care. Dial 16407 as the zipcode into the AT&T and Sprint coverage areas, and you'll see that neither has even got 3G up and running in this area.. let alone 4G! T-Mobile = non-existent.
I can't even get DSL on my outer rims road because Verizon (which just happens to be my land line provider) won't run DSL down it because of a massive farm that takes up the first 1/3 of this section of road!?!
Anyone who says "just move" is ignorant and should be shot.
Hi I am from the UK, but this is probably answerable by anyone who understands the topic..
Basically, I am looking at upgrading, however 4G is expected to be in the UK in 2013. However, Orange/T-Mobile (Everything Everywhere), have said they are looking at updating their network in Q3 of 2012, supplying the UK with HSPA+ - which is a fair bit faster than the current standard (HS(D?)PA). However, I was wondering if current devices released in the UK (cough, the HTC One X. or possibly the Galaxy S3) will simply require a software update for HSPA+ to work? But if the devices won't even be able to use HSPA+, I don't want to upgrade yet.
Thanks for the help
It will depend of the hardware ability of the network ship , if manufacturer will just allow further abilities by a simple software upgrade , devs will know the trick and make it available by custom roms or apps.
My advice : Wait and see ! New telecommunication standards are always a long time ahead devices able to handle it . Keep your device until the official release of new offers , upgrade plans...It's better than buying now an expensive one.
In UK on 3 with SGSII get H+ displayed to which is HSPA+
Samsung GT-i9100 Galaxy S II
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It's been available for a while in UK it's implemented into newer phones.
is there any way to spoof (or change) a phones product name on andrioid 2.3 aka gingerbread?
to make a little clearer what i want and why i want it here is my problem:
i bought a wp7 phone together with a t-mobile germany contract. this includes navigon select. long story short: dropped the phone, broke the digitizer, replacement worked less than satisfying, retired the phone and got myself an alcatel 991d since i wasnt completely satisfied with wp7 and also wanted a phone with dual sim capabilities.
only problem i got now: navigon select is available for android, iOS and wp - as long as you got a t-mobile contract. so far so good. but its also limited to several brands of phones like samsung, htc, nokia or lg - at least when you made your contract directly with t-mobile instead of one of the resellers like debitel, mobilcom or whatever there is reselling t-mobile contracts.
do what i need now is to - i'll put it simple, knowing its most likely not that simple at all - change the environment variable saying "this is an alcatel 991d" into something like "this is an HTC xyz" (whatever model runs gingerbread too)...
is that possible in ANY way?
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ok that looks like this topic draws WAY to much attention.
2 Phones purchased same time from same place, one is black and the other is grey. S8+
They are both on same network on same plan.
How come 1 phone can receive a newer software update and the other one is unable to find a newer one?
They release updates in stages to reduce the burden on tech support, load on the update servers, and for testing purposes. One phone got lucky, the other will follow.