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Is it normal that I still haven't gotten any OTA update? Im over in NY and went to stock ROM, went to stock recovery, and unrooted the phone. When is the OTA update rolling out until? Did it stop? I keep getting connection failed when manually looking for a software update.
And I don't want to manually use the LG tool because I am afraid of bricking the phone and don't want to go through the trouble of unbricking it.
I never got the OTA either and it was announced they stopped. The LG updating didn't brick my phone either.
I was actually wondering the same thing.
I called Tmo CS over a week ago, and he swore that I would be getting either an email, text or phone call, letting me know that I would be getting the update. He was nice, but I think he was new (didn't seem all that sharp). I did ask him about the rumor that they stopped the OTA, and he said that there was nothing about that in his system. He said, according to his system, it was still active. I asked him like 3x lol.
I have a refurb, so can't use the LG update tool. I know there is an alternate way of doing it, here on the forums, but I'm just too darn lazy lol. I will be calling Tmo again, in the next few days. If I get any useful info, I will pass it along to you.
I like my G2x, but honestly...between LG and Tmo, this has been one, huge clusterf**k. Thank God for the devs here, and around the net. They have done what LG and Tmo have continuously failed to do...made me a happy G2x owner!
ive had the same issue trying to do it by the phone so used LG tool and .... bricked my phone
i called Tmo and they exchanged my phone at no cost. the new one came with Gb preinstalled.
Why not just screw the OTA and grab one of the great custom, pre rooted roms. I did the OTA thing and had to re root. Ran the official update for two days and got tired of the thing. The custom roms spoil you.
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dalephil22 said:
Why not just screw the OTA and grab one of the great custom, pre rooted roms. I did the OTA thing and had to re root. Ran the official update for two days and got tired of the thing. The custom roms spoil you.
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I'm running EB 2.3.3, and love it. And thanks to EB, I also love my G2X again. But I would like to have the new baseband. And I can only get that from the update.
Really, what I think it comes down to (for me), is that I want T-Mobile to step the hell up, and stop jerking me around. How do you release an OTA...but only to SOME? I've just never heard of such a thing. And how do you release your "flagship" phone, then realize it's got issues, and then try to sweep all the owners of said "flagship" under the carpet...where you don't have to deal with them any more? It just makes me sad. I used to brag to all my friends, how much I loved T-Mobile.
dalephil22 said:
Why not just screw the OTA and grab one of the great custom, pre rooted roms. I did the OTA thing and had to re root. Ran the official update for two days and got tired of the thing. The custom roms spoil you.
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I kind of sympathize, but people recommend custom roms as a blanket solution to random issues way too often. Don't get me wrong, I love EB and CM, and xboarder's rom is fantastic, but the first two don't have a2dp and the latter won't still give you a new baseband. For people like me who have a non-functional gps and rely on a2dp, the official update is pretty critical.
Also, is there any evidence suggesting T-Mobile actually pulled the update? I think I know the post where this rumor started, and for what it's worth, a pretty knowledgeable rep told me about a week ago that the OTA is still rolling out, and will continue to do so through August. If the roll-out is slow, I don't think its too surprising considering what little space lg has to screw up again.
[EDIT] http://www.tmonews.com/2011/08/t-mo...ad-ota-rollout-manual-update-still-available/
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I kind of sympathize, but people recommend custom roms as a blanket solution to random issues way too often. Don't get me wrong, I love EB and CM, and xboarder's rom is fantastic, but the first two don't have a2dp and the latter won't still give you a new baseband. For people like me who have a non-functional gps and rely on a2dp, the official update is pretty critical.
Also, is there any evidence suggesting T-Mobile actually pulled the update? I think I know the post where this rumor started, and for what it's worth, a pretty knowledgeable rep told me about a week ago that the OTA is still rolling out, and will continue to do so through August. If the roll-out is slow, I don't think its too surprising considering what little space lg has to screw up again.
[EDIT] http://www.tmonews.com/2011/08/t-mo...ad-ota-rollout-manual-update-still-available/
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Well here it is posted on T-Mobile Support forum. The post says its created by T-Mobile so I'd say its legit, not a rumor.
http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-2362
G2X CM7
Actually, although EB 2.3.5 doesn't have A2DP, EB 2.3.3 does.
And the mms works SO much better than other ROMS I've tried.
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Yeah, the link I posted above was the same notice from a secondary source.
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Yeah, the link I posted above was the same notice from a secondary source.
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But you called it a rumor. Looks pretty official to me.
G2X CM7
Like many fascinate owners, I received a Droid Charge as a warranty replacement. After 3 weeks of use, I'm not sure that it's the phone for me.
Has anyone contacted VZ customer service about switching to the Inc 2? I know I'm after the 2 week return period, so I'm just wondering what others have tried/said that worked? My issues are lag (even with Voodoo), spotty gps, and size: it isn't the most pocket-friendly phone.
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Like many fascinate owners, I received a Droid Charge as a warranty replacement. After 3 weeks of use, I'm not sure that it's the phone for me.
Has anyone contacted VZ customer service about switching to the Inc 2? I know I'm after the 2 week return period, so I'm just wondering what others have tried/said that worked? My issues are lag (even with Voodoo), spotty gps, and size: it isn't the most pocket-friendly phone.
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I haven't heard of anyone trying, but I know you're probably not the only one who would like to switch... If you want go ahead and call and report back
If you don't mind me asking what ROMs have you tried and, if any, mods or tweaks?
If VZW won't switch it out for you, you could probably find someone willing to trade and Inc2 for a Charge.
No phone is perfect, obviously, but the reasons you cite for looking at other phones are absolutely on target - they're not the strongest points of the Charge. Be careful, though - if you have 4G in your area the connection speeds under 3G will put you to sleep!
I'm also interested to hear what you find out from VZW. They get complaints, but in my experience their customer service is about as good as one could expect to find from a company their size.
I don't see why you would want to switch to anything else, but if you call verizon they might charge you a restocking fee (~$30) to take back the charge and issue a droid incredible 2. You'd be better off trading on craigslist. You might even make some money out of the deal.
Well i just got back from he verizon store. One of the senior techs there told me that samsung is going to roll out an update to fix all the lag, connection, etc issues that we all are having. He also said that they are working on inc2 and instead of the update, they may just roll out that inc2 update to us all. He just did not have an estimated time of when all this is gonna happen.
I always go by the rule of thumb of " I'll beleive it when i see it." LOL
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Well i just got back from he verizon store. One of the senior techs there told me that samsung is going to roll out an update to fix all the lag, connection, etc issues that we all are having. He also said that they are working on inc2 and instead of the update, they may just roll out that inc2 update to us all. He just did not have an estimated time of when all this is gonna happen.
I always go by the rule of thumb of " I'll beleive it when i see it." LOL
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The next update for the Charge is likely going to be GB. I can't see Samsung pushing out another Froyo update with no news from anyone about it. As for the inc2 update, I don't know what it may be, but didn't they just recently get an update as well?
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He also said that they are working on inc2 and instead of the update, they may just roll out that inc2 update to us all.
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Oh, of course! They'll just give us the update from the Incredible 2. No matter that it's made for an HTC phone running different hardware with HTC's Sense UI and a totally different RIL.
Sounds like another great example of Verizon's in-store techs having no clue what they're talking about.
Thanks for all the friendly replies and suggestions! I'm currently on Eclipse 1.3.1 with the PBJ kernel. It seems to have the best mix of performance and battery life. Although Gummy and Humble are nice, well-thought-out roms too!
As for Craigslist, I'd rather keep my warranty. Afterall, I wouldn't have the Charge otherwise. I'll return to stock this weekend and I'm visit my local Verizon. I'll keep everyone posted on what options I'm offered. Thanks again!
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Well.. I got to thinking about the problems I listed, and decided to keep the phone for a bit longer. Maybe it'll grow on me?
For lag (aside from Voodoo) I followed Hazzard's "how to" for Zeppelinrox' V6 SuperCharger fix. My friends and fellow Android users responded that my phone feels fast to them. It definitely opens the app drawer faster.
As for pocket-ability, I swapped cases for a Verizon OEM High-gloss silicon case. My phone now slides in and out with ease!
I want to return to stock on my tmobile branded HTC sensation 4G. I have flashed the radio, eng s off, and CSL recovery.
I am going to give them a shot at fixing my reception issues before I destroy the phone and buy something else.
Did you have reception problems before flashing your radio or after? I think you should be fine with having a rom since HTC released their bootloader if its a big deal and your really worried just flash a stock rom on that bad boy and call it a day. Just my 2 cents new to the site so hopefully a vet will chime in here for help
Though I've never returned to stock on my phone, you just need to download one of the TMOUS RUUs in this thread:
[ROM][11 May] Shipped Pyramid ROM Collection
There are two listed for TMOUS (there was only one when last I checked the thread), but it supposedly doesn't matter which one you pick according to one of the posts later on in the thread.
They're big old files, but just run the .EXE and it ought to walk you through every necessary step to proceed properly.
Good luck, and let us know how it goes!
Thank you very much for the great responses.
Yes I had reception problems on all 3 sensation 4g's I've had my hands on. It's terrible. Side by side, on the same tower, it gets far lower reception than my old Motorola Cliq (piece of slow crap.)
It's ridiculously low and drops calls. It's so unreliable at my house that I have to use WiFi calling and take a drop if I get more than 30' from my extremely good wireless router. meh. crap.
To the other gentleman, than you very much. I figured it included the radio, but I was unsure about the bootloader/recovery. I will start there and then figure out if there is anything else I need to fix before I send it in. I don't want any more BS from them. I'm sure they are just going to send it back and say "nothing is wrong".
They have said that it is comparable to reception on their other models. If this is the case, this will be the VERY last HTC phone I ever own, and our company has just gotten to the point that I can invest in things such as this for business. If we only get 2 at a time, every 6 months or so, That is $10,000 in lost business in the next ten years, provided they are only $500 phones.
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Thank you very much for the great responses.
Yes I had reception problems on all 3 sensation 4g's I've had my hands on. It's terrible. Side by side, on the same tower, it gets far lower reception than my old Motorola Cliq (piece of slow crap.)
It's ridiculously low and drops calls. It's so unreliable at my house that I have to use WiFi calling and take a drop if I get more than 30' from my extremely good wireless router. meh. crap.
To the other gentleman, than you very much. I figured it included the radio, but I was unsure about the bootloader/recovery. I will start there and then figure out if there is anything else I need to fix before I send it in. I don't want any more BS from them. I'm sure they are just going to send it back and say "nothing is wrong".
They have said that it is comparable to reception on their other models. If this is the case, this will be the VERY last HTC phone I ever own, and our company has just gotten to the point that I can invest in things such as this for business. If we only get 2 at a time, every 6 months or so, That is $10,000 in lost business in the next ten years, provided they are only $500 phones.
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If I may be so bold as to make a suggestion and ask a few questions....
1. Have you tried reverting to stock and see if you still have the same problems with reception?
2. Are you aware that the Sensation suffers from the grip of death?
3. Have you noticed performance with reception after flashing a new ROM in comparison to stock?
I think I may have some insight to the real problem but need this info first.
mystikal87 said:
If I may be so bold as to make a suggestion and ask a few questions....
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Best 3 Stooges voice: "Sauwtainly"
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1. Have you tried reverting to stock and see if you still have the same problems with reception?
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Yes, They (3 different phones) had this problem from day 1. Purchased from different places, at different times.
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2. Are you aware that the Sensation suffers from the grip of death?
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Yes, but this isn't to what I refer. Holding the phone in a weird way to make the radios D/C isn't my problem so much as the design that allows this to happen in the first place is my problem. If I set the phone down, I get more bars than if I hold it normally. If this is the difference between 2-3 and 1-2, I can get dropped calls. My wifi range (max performance on) is 1/10th of my tablet and 1/20th of my laptop.
Even without touching the phone, just setting it on a wood counter top, it has less reception than my Motorola Cliq or Mytouch 4g, even when on the same tower. The cliq's reception does not change if I pick it up.
It's a bad design. If it is what HTC considers acceptable, then their phones aren't acceptable to me. It's cool. I'm not really that pissed about it. I just won't buy another. There are options.
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No, I've found no increase in reception with any change I've made. I've flashed 5 different radios other than stock with no changes in this department.
I have heard people have speed changes, but I was not tracking that so I can't really respond to that.
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I think I may have some insight to the real problem but need this info first.
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Hope you have some help.
I've already tried a new back. It did nothing. There simply aren't enough towers in my area (all edge towers anyway) to support a phone with such poor reception. My Cliq had no issues with dropped calls in many of the areas I drive through, but this sensation just can't make it down my parents road without dropping.
The reason I ask is that I think that the Radio-Interface-Layer (RIL) files must be screwing with your radio. The RILs are like drivers for your radio. Different radios work with different RILs depending on your location. Long-in-short-version, Since the Sensation is fairly new, we are still exploring what works best and therefore your mileage may vary.
You may want to check this thread
And check out your RIL version. To check to see what RIL you have run getprop "gsm.version.ril-impl" in Terminal Emulator or adb shell and it will print out the RIL version.
T-Mo users should utilize HTC-RIL 2.2.0159HMQ if not running 2.3.4 ROMS
2.3.4 ROMS require HTC-RIL 2.2.0169HMQ. The matching radio versions are included in the thread posted above.
Hope this helps.
If that fails, tonight, TMOUS released an OTA update. See if you can get it through Settings-> About Phone -> HTC Software updates.
The changes for the T-Mo update can be found here
Hope this helps!
EDIT : I am assuming that you have a T-Mobile Sensation 4G and not an unbranded HTC Sensation and that you current location is in fact Myrtle Beach, SC. But then again, I hate assumptions and I really should have asked >.< **having a simpson 'doh' moment here**
Change your cid to all ones and flash the stock ruu.exe and send it back to tmobile.
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charlieb620 said:
Change your cid to all ones and flash the stock ruu.exe and send it back to tmobile.
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I'm sending it to HTC, not tmobile.
I will play with the MILs right now (installing the tmo one)
I'm on stock RUU now, but it did not replace the PVT S-OFF and recovery crashes and requires a battery pull to reboot. It goes to a icon of a phone with a red triangle thingie on it.
EDIT: MIL's match.
EDIT: Texts from 10076200000 is tmobile related. WTF it does is WTF.
chisleu said:
I'm sending it to HTC, not tmobile.
I will play with the MILs right now (installing the tmo one)
I'm on stock RUU now, but it did not replace the PVT S-OFF and recovery crashes and requires a battery pull to reboot. It goes to a icon of a phone with a red triangle thingie on it.
EDIT: MIL's match.
EDIT: Texts from 10076200000 is tmobile related. WTF it does is WTF.
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Could be trying to push the OTA update. Have you tried applying the OTA update?
iNFORMATION
I have personally reset my phone a couple of times using the tmo ruu and know that it sets your phone back to absolute stock, with no root and only being s-off. What this means is, if you wish to reroot then you are going to have to go back through the rooting process.
As far as the symbol that you are seeing when you try to do an ota update? The reason that you are seeing the phone with a red triangle is because your phone is being recognized as being rooted and once rooted htc will not allow an ota to your phone. You have to trick HTC into thinking that the phone is not rooted in order to get the ota, there is a thread in the forums for this. I do not remember which thread it is, however, I know that it works as I did it for all four of the HTC sensations that I own.
I'm on CM9, so in order to get the new Baseband is this what you do?
1. I have CWM recovery.. (Do I flash stock recovery first using oneclickflash? Or do I just use LG tools?)
2. Install any rom you want.
Nandroid, Change recovery back to stock. Use the LG tool to install the new LG stuff. Change back to CWM, restore nandroid. Done. At least as I understand it. I am waiting for feedback on the new baseband before I install it.
First flash the zip file that kews posted today here ( to make sure lg updater tool doesn't bailout on update, you can directly use lg updater tool but I didn't try it)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1602798
.. and use lg updater tool to do a full restore back to stock. you will loose your root, cwm everything.
I have a new laptop so I was in the process of installing drivers, etc. I had the LG tool up and before I reverted recovery and all that, it found the phone and told me I had an update. So i made a nandroid backup, and a Titanium backup. Without reverting I "clicked" the update. It installed all the new goods. When finished, it had stock recovery and was not rooted. But it did have the new baseband and all the bloat. Very painless. I did a oneclick root and installed CWM recovery and I'm back in action. Didn't take all that long.
I plan on running the new stock for a while to see. I was running TSUGI previously.
GPS seems to lock very quickly, seconds. Previously it would take minutes.
mmandros said:
I plan on running the new stock for a while to see. I was running TSUGI previously.
GPS seems to lock very quickly, seconds. Previously it would take minutes.
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I'll be looking forward to reading your experiences. I'm currently running Tsugi and, except for the long TTFF with the GPS, have been very happy with it. If the GPS continues to lock quickly for you (I've gotten locks in a few seconds, but not very often -- usually it's 2-3 minutes) and there aren't serious gotchas, I'll definitely consider switching.
If you read other thread, if you update to newest baseband and instal custom rom, you will be unable to make or receive calls
Heh, I guess I will waitout till everything is fixed...
Can anyone test this?
TO THOSE WHO HAVE THE NEW BB MARCH 11
Put device in airplane mode
Put device out of airplane mode
Wait 1minute
Check if APN is still there
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nitrogen618 said:
Heh, I guess I will waitout till everything is fixed...
Can anyone test this?
TO THOSE WHO HAVE THE NEW BB MARCH 11
Put device in airplane mode
Put device out of airplane mode
Wait 1minute
Check if APN is still there
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APN came right back for me
Edit: I'm on the LG Rom
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nitrogen618 said:
Heh, I guess I will waitout till everything is fixed...
Can anyone test this?
TO THOSE WHO HAVE THE NEW BB MARCH 11
Put device in airplane mode
Put device out of airplane mode
Wait 1minute
Check if APN is still there
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Doesn't work for me. APN gets "erased" both in HFS and Owain's for me, and it always has.
desynch- said:
Doesn't work for me. APN gets "erased" both in HFS and Owain's for me, and it always has.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24933294 could you try using this ril and letting me know if it helps?
Caliyork said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24933294 could you try using this ril and letting me know if it helps?
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I was the one who posted the original lge-ril.rar file for v21y (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1601918&page=4), and calling does not work with anything other than what it was designed for.
I've switched back to trying the stock 2.3.4 and it's been amazing.
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I was the one who posted the original lge-ril.rar file for v21y (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1601918&page=4), and calling does not work with anything other than what it was designed for.
I've switched back to trying the stock 2.3.4 and it's been amazing.
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Hmm, I see... Well I think I'll hold off on that for now. I'm having too much fun playing around with ics roms. Thanks
Yeah, honestly, if I knew what I know now about baseband and calling issues, I wouldn't have updated.
To those who are contemplating on updating - don't update if you want to keep using ICS roms and have a phone that actually calls/receive calls.
Why does LG waste money, time, effort, etc., on updating GB for the G2X when it should be using those resources on ICS for the G2X. If they had, we would have ICS now. Maybe LG did it because it won't be providing ICS for the G2X and thinks that a GB and baseband update is good enough to placate us about updates. If that's what they actually think and did, they're incredibly stupid.
Core Memory said:
Why does LG waste money, time, effort, etc., on updating GB for the G2X when it should be using those resources on ICS for the G2X. If they had, we would have ICS now. Maybe LG did it because it won't be providing ICS for the G2X and thinks that a GB and baseband update is good enough to placate us about updates. If that's what they actually think and did, they're incredibly stupid.
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It's T-Mobile's phone. They decide what gets updated and what doesn't. If this was a maintenance release then they pay less for it. A major upgrade to ICS would cost T-Mobile millions of dollars in payments to LG for the update. Since the phone is EOL'd major bug and/or maintenance updates are all you are going to get if you are lucky. Don't expect TMO to pay for ICS, so the G2X, in my best guess, will never get official ICS from LG. If I am wrong then consider yourself very lucky if you get official ICS with properly written drivers.
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It's T-Mobile's phone. They decide what gets updated and what doesn't. If this was a maintenance release then they pay less for it. A major upgrade to ICS would cost T-Mobile millions of dollars in payments to LG for the update. Since the phone is EOL'd major bug and/or maintenance updates are all you are going to get if you are lucky. Don't expect TMO to pay for ICS, so the G2X, in my best guess, will never get official ICS from LG. If I am wrong then consider yourself very lucky if you get official ICS with properly written drivers.
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Correct. I just got off the phone with lg and T-Mobile. First I spoke to lg. They claim they know nothing of a update v21y or any update for g2x and they will have someone call me when they find more info about the updater tool and its updates.
Then I called T-Mobile and made them feel dumb for a while. Finally they said lg is working on a software update. They wouldn't answer what specifically. They even offered to send me a new g2x...Even after they told me they dropped g2x because of all the known issues. I said "isn't that like going to a tire shop to buy flat tires?". They then went on to talk to me about lemon cars in which I replied there are laws that state we are protected from manufacturers over those said "lemons" and people get sued over them.
So I called lg back. Then they say their is an update in the works but wouldn't give anymore information and still deny v21y.
Calling them some more now lol..
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It's T-Mobile's phone. They decide what gets updated and what doesn't. If this was a maintenance release then they pay less for it. A major upgrade to ICS would cost T-Mobile millions of dollars in payments to LG for the update. Since the phone is EOL'd major bug and/or maintenance updates are all you are going to get if you are lucky. Don't expect TMO to pay for ICS, so the G2X, in my best guess, will never get official ICS from LG. If I am wrong then consider yourself very lucky if you get official ICS with properly written drivers.
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Why should T-Mobile have to pay for LG's frigging bad coding to begin with??
LG were the ones who released this damn phone with all the glitches, and now T-Mobile is expected to pay for it? I'm not even in the United States and that sounds absolutely stupid. If LG wants to lose customers by not providing updates because of a small payment from T-Mobile, then they seriously need to crank there heads around because they're on backwards.
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Why should T-Mobile have to pay for LG's frigging bad coding to begin with??
LG were the ones who released this damn phone with all the glitches, and now T-Mobile is expected to pay for it? I'm not even in the United States and that sounds absolutely stupid. If LG wants to lose customers by not providing updates because of a small payment from T-Mobile, then they seriously need to crank there heads around because they're on backwards.
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T-Mobile tested it and allowed it to be released like that. If they didn't approve it then it wouldn't have their crappy bloatware packed in. All manufacturers care about is selling the next phone not customer satisfaction.
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nitrogen618 said:
I'm on CM9, so in order to get the new Baseband is this what you do?
1. I have CWM recovery.. (Do I flash stock recovery first using oneclickflash? Or do I just use LG tools?)
2. Install any rom you want.
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I couldn't get the updater to work with cm7 on the phone.. I had to put on stock 2.3.3, stock recovery, then it detected and installed. Then I did cwm and rooted.
The thing is much snappier. CM7 has some great features that I'm missing, but the phone is operating very smooth. I'm sticking w/ this one for now.
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T-Mobile tested it and allowed it to be released like that. If they didn't approve it then it wouldn't have their crappy bloatware packed in. All manufacturers care about is selling the next phone not customer satisfaction.
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Oh I had no idea the mobile carriers tested and permitted phones to be sold with horrible problems.
It's still horrible business practices for both companies involved then.
Okay lets start from the beginning.... about a year ago I switched to Verizon ONLY so that I can get 4g as they have the best 4g in my area. (Detroit). I loved it at first...smoking hot 4g almost everywhere I went. When my home internet went out I could tether to my phone... life was good. Sometimes when entering a building I would drop to 3g but my desk and PC are by a picture window so I always had 4g to tether with.
Then came that update a couple months ago.. don't remember the update number but it was the one that was pulled. Every since then I can only get 4g when I am in a prime area outdoors near a tower. This makes the phone almost worthless to me because I use it to play an online game and surf the internet at work, not to mention I no longer have a backup connection for my PC... without 4G I might as well be using a cheap flip phone. I have 3 S3's on my account and they all show this same behavior change.
I have tried changing the sim card.. flashing many different radios and am currently running Jelly Beans build 15 ROM to see if a different ROM might help. (I am rooted and unlocked) So far nothing has helped.. I have also tried having my SIM reprovisioned.
I ran across this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1530203 in the HTC forums discussing hardware antenna mods and even some success claimed and was wondering if anybody has experimented with this with the S3??? I have already had the phone apart looking for ideas but I am afraid this is out of my league without some assistance.
Also while sitting in the house I still get good reception based on DBM, currently at 82 as I type this with only a 3G signal and even drops to 1x on occasion, So what is the deal with being able to get 4g outdoors with a lesser signal while only 3G while indoors?? Toggling airplane mode and other tricks I have tried will not get me 4g indoors.
Now... if it came down to it can I give my current phones a try on AT&T to see if that helps anything? Also does anybody remember what radio firmware we where on before the OTA of death?? I may have missed a radio or two in my testing,
Any advice, opinions, suggestions... any input is appreciated. I am somewhat OCD so I will not rest until I resolve this issue or switch carriers.
Thanks in advance.
OK I don't know if I missed it but do you have a custom recovery ? If so flash a different radio and see which does your phone like . invisiblek has all in one packages that are easily flashable . charge your phone and don't interrupt the process . try md3 radio .
jmichaels1982 said:
OK I don't know if I missed it but do you have a custom recovery ? If so flash a different radio and see which does your phone like . invisiblek has all in one packages that are easily flashable . charge your phone and don't interrupt the process . try md3 radio .
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Been down the list and installed them all last night... took me hours because I wanted to test each radio for a few min before trying the next. Just got off the phone with verizon and samsung 3 way call, samsung will repair the phones if I send them in, but I would be without phones for about 2 weeks,,, damn.
Update.. don't know if it will help but I filed an FCC complaint. Don't know how well it will work but Sprint bent over backwards over FCC complaints.
Which firmware package are you using. Mf1 was the one sent out to fix md3 or whatever that botched one was. Mb1 was the one before that I think. Just flash the mb1 firmware. You can also flash the mf1 firmware. Filing a FCC complaint is a bit extreme for something you can fix by flashing a new firmware package.
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Which firmware package are you using. Mf1 was the one sent out to fix md3 or whatever that botched one was. Mb1 was the one before that I think. Just flash the mb1 firmware. You can also flash the mf1 firmware. Filing a FCC complaint is a bit extreme for something you can fix by flashing a new firmware package.
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I am currently using MB1 along with the associated rpms on the jelly beans rom. MF1 never solved anything for me, except reduce the overheating and battery life a little. All 3 of my phones are pretty much garbage now. From what I am hearing the bad update put some phones in a non repairable status.
A possibly unrelated issue is that my phones seem to be a different version than most.... I have watched many S3 teardown videos... and in every one a small screw was used to hold the sim card/sd card slot into place. My phone has no such screw nor a place to put one... the assembly just snaps into place and is held in by the surrounding hardware. I think I may have a very early release of the phones.. all 3 are 32 gig models and from what I understand they didn't sell very well on verizon, last time I checked they had quit even listing the 32 gig option.
I have tried to exhaust all options before complaining to the FCC. One thing I would like to play with some more is APN values but have had very little luck because it always reverts back to the same APN and if I try to force anything I get no data at all.
I am also willing to void the warranty one one phone by trying internal antenna mods but I cant do this alone and there seems to be nobody here that has tried it . At the very least the wifi antenna looks easy to mod... just spiral some copper wire around it and spay it with some kind of non conductive coating should help a little. and that ridiculous thermal pad to keep the cpu cool should be trashed and replaced with copper shims and quality thermal paste.
While there is not a lot of room inside for modding I think we could make some small changes that will help.
With the lack of phone hardware modding support on cell phones in general I will probably jump ship to a S4 since it comes in a 32 gig flavor..and I intend on trying an AT&T sim in the phone to see how it performs there.
My wifes phone that has never been modded/rooted/unlock and is on the latest update is much worse than mine... she is stuck in 1x mode most of the time and cant even download her voicemail without a long struggle.
We are in a prime LTE area so there is no excuse for this.
My Mf1 firmware actually gave me more bars and a faster connection. That is to bad it messed up your lte.
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