Upgrading through amazon - Samsung Infuse 4G

i'm on the grandfathered unlimited data plan and was trying to upgrade through amazon but there's no way to get through checkout without choosing one of the new tiered data plans. has anyone been able to get around this or know of a way to get with the amazon price without changing data plans?

Ha , that is funny. I considered using amazon but couldn't wait for my infuse. If that is the case why not just check out get it and drop the tether . Shouldn't be no biggy. Anyways , this infuse is sexy.you'll love it !
Samsung infuse 4G

Amazon charged me a $250 Etf on top of At&'s Etf when I had to sell my Captivate and cancel my contract last year. So my Captivate cost me around $700 when it was all said and done. I'll never buy from Amazon again.
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boondoc said:
i'm on the grandfathered unlimited data plan and was trying to upgrade through amazon but there's no way to get through checkout without choosing one of the new tiered data plans. has anyone been able to get around this or know of a way to get with the amazon price without changing data plans?
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Personally, I wouldn't take a chance on losing it. I'd just go to a retail store to purchase it just to be safe. Having said that, if you just switch your SIM card from your existing device and do not activate the SIM card Amazon sends you, that MAY keep you on your existing data plan. This worked for me when upgrading my wife's phone from Best Buy online.

big99gt said:
Amazon charged me a $250 Etf on top of At&'s Etf when I had to sell my Captivate and cancel my contract last year. So my Captivate cost me around $700 when it was all said and done. I'll never buy from Amazon again.
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Yeah, it says that right on their site if you cancel within the first 6 mos. This is pretty common practice for most resellers.

All you have todoiscall art after you petit and tell them you grandfather in and they will change it. I've done this with Wal-Mart before.
Waiting for the 26th for my Infuse 4g.

HushH said:
Yeah, it says that right on their site if you cancel within the first 6 mos. This is pretty common practice for most resellers.
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Do you feel better about yourself now? I'll never understand the need some people have to try and prove themselves superior to others by cutting in and making statements like yours. I know it is on the site but I had lost my job and had a family to feed. I paid the fees later and settled up with At&t also. But if it makes you feel better....yes I'm just an idiot who never read my contract and has no reason to complain about paying $150 more than what the device was worth.
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big99gt said:
Do you feel better about yourself now? I'll never understand the need some people have to try and prove themselves superior to others by cutting in and making statements like yours. I know it is on the site but I had lost my job and had a family to feed. I paid the fees later and settled up with At&t also. But if it makes you feel better....yes I'm just an idiot who never read my contract and has no reason to complain about paying $150 more than what the device was worth.
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Yo I don't think HushH was trying to put you down in anyway, he was just stating a fact.

HushH said:
Personally, I wouldn't take a chance on losing it. I'd just go to a retail store to purchase it just to be safe. Having said that, if you just switch your SIM card from your existing device and do not activate the SIM card Amazon sends you, that MAY keep you on your existing data plan. This worked for me when upgrading my wife's phone from Best Buy online.
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I agree with this 100%.
I wouldn't risk losing your G-pa data plan by buying from amazon and then calling AT&T to switch back. Big gamble to save $50 up front but lose hundreds of dollars in monthly data charges.
Also, I *heard* that AT&T is selling the phone on-contract for $149 (same as amazon) if you buy an accessory. But even if that's not the case (no pun intended), I personally wouldn't risk it.

Call ATT and tell them about it. They should be able to fix it back to the unlimited plan. Believe or not they are pretty good about that.
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Papi4baby said:
Call ATT and tell them about it. They should be able to fix it back to the unlimited plan. Believe or not they are pretty good about that.
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This is true but avoid doing anything that has to do with your plan and features on the web. Its a headache and they won't care about what fees come on your bill. Example: upgrade fee, activation fee. I see it everyday as i do the same work in a store.
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Dont do that. I work for at&t and that's a gamble not worth taking. Re adding a unlimited data plan is extremely time consuming as well as job threatening if re added for trivial reasons such as so a customer can save 50 dollars by purchasing from an indirect retailer. Is 50 dollars worth potentially losing unlimited data? Probably not
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vclifton said:
Dont do that. I work for at&t and that's a gamble not worth taking. Re adding a unlimited data plan is extremely time consuming as well as job threatening if re added for trivial reasons such as so a customer can save 50 dollars by purchasing from an indirect retailer. Is 50 dollars worth potentially losing unlimited data? Probably not
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Doing what?
Do you work for Corporate or a store?
Are you telling me that if i call ATT and explain that i could not choose the plan when i order the new phone but i want it fix once i receive my phone they wont help me?
You do know they can see all changes made to your plan. I am sure if you call them the same day you get your phone (a couple of days from the change) and explain the situation they will help you.
Worse thing, send the phone back to amazon and tell them to put your account back to how it was before. Go to a local place and get it there.

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Do you feel better about yourself now? I'll never understand the need some people have to try and prove themselves superior to others by cutting in and making statements like yours. I know it is on the site but I had lost my job and had a family to feed. I paid the fees later and settled up with At&t also. But if it makes you feel better....yes I'm just an idiot who never read my contract and has no reason to complain about paying $150 more than what the device was worth.
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Woah man, I wasn't trying to put you down in any way. Sorry if you took it like that. You seemed pretty upset with Amazon for charging you the extra fee, and I was just pointing that they're not the only ones who do that. It's pretty standard practice unless you buy directly from AT&T, and I feel Amazon is more up front about it than most. That's why I was saying it's right on their site compared to a lot of places where you'll find it buried in the fine print. Again, didn't mean anything personal by it.

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Double Your Data Allowance!

Anyone on capped data may be interested to know that starting tomorrow you can double your data allowance for no extra cost through the month of November.
4GB - $30
10GB - $50
20GB - $100
You will be able to set it up through myverizon.com
This only applies to 4G smartphones
ONCE YOU GET IT YOU GET TO KEEP IT!
also applies to new lines and upgrades!
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If you like it, thank it.
Good to know glad I got w/verizon when they had the unlimited data plans.but good info to know.
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It would be NICE of verizon to make this a permanent change to their data lineup.
Just sayin.
is Verizon paying you or something?.. you've posted this in multiple forums. heh...
Can I double unlimited? Like how a prisoner can serve 8 life sentences lol.
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I only pay $9.95 per month for unlimited for each of my five lines. I think I'll stick with that plan.
on a side note, when I called Verizon about upgrading my phone, they insisted on doing it over the phone & stated that for exsisting customers you have to do it that way. however, I called a local Verizon store yesterday and they said I can just go into the store and do it.
uh oh... different people telling me different things. shame on you Verizon!
as Mordecai & Rigby would say.. "tsk tsk... hmm hmm hm hmm hmm hm!"
voxigenboy said:
on a side note, when I called Verizon about upgrading my phone, they insisted on doing it over the phone & stated that for exsisting customers you have to do it that way. however, I called a local Verizon store yesterday and they said I can just go into the store and do it.
uh oh... different people telling me different things. shame on you Verizon!
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Unless the sales person over the phone is offering you something special or exclusive, there is no reason why you can't go into any Verzion Wireless dealer and do an upgrade.
Back on topic, just upgraded my data. 6GB with Mobile Email/Hotspot for $25. Awesome.
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Unless the sales person over the phone is offering you something special or exclusive, there is no reason why you can't go into any Verzion Wireless dealer and do an upgrade.
Back on topic, just upgraded my data. 6GB with Mobile Email/Hotspot for $25. Awesome.
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I used 6GB this morning downloading a PC game.
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Unless the sales person over the phone is offering you something special or exclusive, there is no reason why you can't go into any Verzion Wireless dealer and do an upgrade.
Back on topic, just upgraded my data. 6GB with Mobile Email/Hotspot for $25. Awesome.
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did you have to buy a new phone? i am pissed i had unlimited data and washed my old dinc in the washing machine. due to lack of funds i re activated my old flip phone temporarily and then 1 month later bought a Tbolt. now i just looked at my verizon account and i have a 2GB plan. WTF? i am an idiot, i know but how do i get 6 gb for 25?
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did you have to buy a new phone? i am pissed i had unlimited data and washed my old dinc in the washing machine. due to lack of funds i re activated my old flip phone temporarily and then 1 month later bought a Tbolt. now i just looked at my verizon account and i have a 2GB plan. WTF? i am an idiot, i know but how do i get 6 gb for 25?
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if i were you i would call verizon and ask to talk to a supervisor & complain big time. try and get that unlimited back if you can.
He was talking about 4gb for being the double and 2gb for mobile hot spot. That is the 6gb.
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What Vox said, Yea tell them you never had it removed and SD still paying full amount,
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I'll let my unfortunate capped friends know, thanks
"Verizon says the offer will be active for a “limited time” with no announcement on when the deal will end.At the conclusion of the promotion, the double data allotments will revert back to the normal rates."
only for a limited time
kidhudi said:
"Verizon says the offer will be active for a “limited time” with no announcement on when the deal will end.At the conclusion of the promotion, the double data allotments will revert back to the normal rates."
only for a limited time
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Did you expect anything less? : /
I know there is no conclusive answer as to the length of the program once activated . i can't find a definative answer if the double is " for the holidays" and expires then, or if it continues through the remainder of the customers current contract.
kidhudi said:
I know there is no conclusive answer as to the length of the program once activated . i can't find a definative answer if the double is " for the holidays" and expires then, or if it continues through the remainder of the customers current contract.
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OP says once you get it, you get it for the contract but if you can't find a definitive response, who knows.
In all the promo material Verizon it states that you will keep it until you opt into something, no longer how long you keep it. However if you switch to a 3G phone you will lose it, and will be unable to get it back.
Verizon has confirmed that this will be grandfathered once you get it.
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Cancel T-Mobile without etf

Did anyone here about this yet, according to the link, you can get out of your contract from tmobile without paying an early termination fee (I think it is $200 still)
Does anyone want to even leave Tmobile? I was thinking of doing this and then signing up back again to save for a new phone
http://slickdeals.net/f/3981466-Cancel-T-Mobile-Contract-ETF-free
moeahmad1995 said:
Did anyone here about this yet, according to the link, you can get out of your contract from tmobile without paying an early termination fee (I think it is $200 still)
Does anyone want to even leave Tmobile? I was thinking of doing this and then signing up back again to save for a new phone
http://slickdeals.net/f/3981466-Cancel-T-Mobile-Contract-ETF-free
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Doubt it, but I guess can't hurt to try. But any company would be stupid to do this since they'd lose out on a lot of money.
I'm thinking about doing this, but I really love my G2x.
FatalityBoyZahy said:
I'm thinking about doing this, but I really love my G2x.
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well get it unlocked and then you can use it anywhere else. i've been thinking about this aswell and not sure which route to take. what would be a good phone to have that has a lot of roms or atleats cm9..and doesn't cost an arm and a leg for a plan.
right now i have unlimited everything for $73..am i going to get something better than that elsewhere? i guess a pre-paid option..but what pre-paid has bette 4g coverage?
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/monthly-4g-plans -- $60 and you 2GB data..might be the way to go.
FatalityBoyZahy said:
I'm thinking about doing this, but I really love my G2x.
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Well cancel the contract then sign with T-Mobile again. Keep ur phone then u have upgrades u can use on future phones. That is what I was thinking.
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hmmm, interesting. something to think about.
moeahmad1995 said:
Well cancel the contract then sign with T-Mobile again. Keep ur phone then u have upgrades u can use on future phones. That is what I was thinking.
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you can carry "upgrades"? how does that work.
i think that $60 prepaid plan with 2gb of data is very tempting...now the hard part is going to be actually getting them to cancel without the etf.
Try it in April. Rumor is that they are changing the terms for data roaming on April 5th. I got out of an old Cingular contract when they changed some terms that were semi-major and I argued that those weren't the terms I originally agreed to and it nullified my existing contract. Be aware though that technically they don't have to do anything more than likely as phone companies got smarter with their terms and conditions. Just saying though, if you're adamant enough, it's worked before.
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jblah said:
you can carry "upgrades"? how does that work.
i think that $60 prepaid plan with 2gb of data is very tempting...now the hard part is going to be actually getting them to cancel without the etf.
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Well I meant like sign up again maybe under a different name if you could again. Say instead of using ur name for the line, u use ur wife's so u have a completely new plan so u can get a phone with contract.
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moeahmad1995 said:
Well I meant like sign up again maybe under a different name if you could again. Say instead of using ur name for the line, u use ur wife's so u have a completely new plan so u can get a phone with contract.
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My dad owed like $80 on his Even More Plus plan. He wanted to move down to the $30 1500 min Monthly 4g plan. He was told because his account was suspended that he couldn't switch to the new plan without paying off the $80. Then the guy told us he could just sign up for the monthly 4g plan and just deal with a new number. So the $80 bill wasn't wiped out but he still was able to start a new account with T-Mobile. He used all his same info as the previous account.
I still don't understand how his bill was $80 since he was essentially already on a pay as you go plan and his service was shut off the day the month ended for him.
I like T-Mobile. Been with them nearly 10 yrs. I switched from Cingular shortly after they took over our local bell south mobile. I would hate to see anything happen to T-Mobile they have always taken good care of me.
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jblah said:
you can carry "upgrades"? how does that work.
i think that $60 prepaid plan with 2gb of data is very tempting...now the hard part is going to be actually getting them to cancel without the etf.
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For $73.34 you get the unlimited everything with 5G of data. That's what I have.
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jblah said:
well get it unlocked and then you can use it anywhere else. i've been thinking about this aswell and not sure which route to take. what would be a good phone to have that has a lot of roms or atleats cm9..and doesn't cost an arm and a leg for a plan.
right now i have unlimited everything for $73..am i going to get something better than that elsewhere? i guess a pre-paid option..but what pre-paid has bette 4g coverage?
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/monthly-4g-plans -- $60 and you 2GB data..might be the way to go.
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Seriously, who even wants to leave T-Mobile?
I love them.
IRASadPanda said:
Seriously, who even wants to leave T-Mobile?
I love them.
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I plan on cancelling my plan, keeping my g2x, then signing up again, and waiting for a new phone to come out.
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Even more plus isn't prepaid, it's postpaid. That Bill would be for services used the prior month.
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FatalityBoyZahy said:
I plan on cancelling my plan, keeping my g2x, then signing up again, and waiting for a new phone to come out.
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That is what I was trying to say you could potentially do with canceling, not entirely leaving T-Mobile.
butterbeam said:
For $73.34 you get the unlimited everything with 5G of data. That's what I have.
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huh...why can't i get that? are you grandfathered in? or are you using the prepaid option?
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That is what I was trying to say you could potentially do with canceling, not entirely leaving T-Mobile.
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Read the agreement though, I believe that you can't sign back up and receive any subsidies (cheap phones) for a long time. I know that when I switched to their subsidy free plan (Even more plus), they said that there was something like a 6 month time frame after canceling the plan before I could sign up for another plan and get phone subsidies again.
But why would I ever leave T-Mobile? two g2x phones with 2gb each and unlimited talk+text all for under $100 after taxes. I even get another discount for working for a university which is an additional 15% off. I can't get close to this with pre-paid.
Then I go to craigslist and buy my phones from people who think they didn't pay $700 after subsidy payments.
Potentially
I noticed that too and was thinking about heading over to Big Red for the Nexus.... But their prices are a killer
Jonphinguyen7 said:
I noticed that too and was thinking about heading over to Big Red for the Nexus.... But their prices are a killer
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I looked at Verizon.. and the prices are insane.
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Smh T-Mobile

So T-Mobile US pulled the E-Brake on wireless tethering and now if you want share the data you already pay 30.00/mo addl for (well me atleast), you now have now pay an addl 14.99/mo. I mean yes I keep up with the carrier market and I know they have had terrible numbers the past 2-3 years, but if ur tryng to pull your company out the mud you don't do it by making sadfaces on all you long time loyal customers. I mean can a brotha get a grandfathered account? Lol (hypothetical).
Anyway, I always thought since I was rooted I wouldn't run into this wireless tethering issue but I guess I was wrong. Anybody know or might know or even have an idea of a way around this? Many thanks in advance
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Did they do this recently, because if they did, i believe you can get out of your contract. Let me know, i wana get out of mine too
I will be finding out today
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good thing my tethering is free, rooted or not
THEindian said:
Did they do this recently, because if they did, i believe you can get out of your contract. Let me know, i wana get out of mine too
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That would be FANTASTIC. Getting out of a contract = new phones, or even cheaper plan rates.
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good thing my tethering is free, rooted or not
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The article I read said that when Sensation users are upgrading to ICS they will lose their free tethering. Apparently TMo couldn't clamp down in gingerbread so they just gave it away.
I read that as when I upgrade to a new phone I will lose it as well.
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Damn, getting out of that contract would save me 30 bucks a month if I switched to a prepaid plan
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bittermormon said:
The article I read said that when Sensation users are upgrading to ICS they will lose their free tethering. Apparently TMo couldn't clamp down in gingerbread so they just gave it away.
I read that as when I upgrade to a new phone I will lose it as well.
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I'm more than sure there will be a way around it, who actually uses the software that originally came with their devices when rooted. I heard the same thing and my next door neighbor has a Sensation and tethering works like a charm. Your not suppose too use it for running your game console and 90% of the time it's those people doing the complaining about using it and getting blocked.
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The article I read said that when Sensation users are upgrading to ICS they will lose their free tethering. Apparently TMo couldn't clamp down in gingerbread so they just gave it away.
I read that as when I upgrade to a new phone I will lose it as well.
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I read the article on 3 android sites,I got my tether free via a promotional thing going on
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good thing my tethering is free, rooted or not
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Same here. With a 5gb or 10gb data plan, you can receive free wireless tethering.
If they are changing the contract you can get out of it. I got out of my contract with over a year left due to the changes they enacted on the 9th of April regarding data roaming. They did not want to let me get away without an ETF but I filed a complaint with my local Attorneys General and that fixed that problem real quick.
As of right now I have no contract anymore on my T-Mobile account, I'm just playing it by ear and waiting for a new phone to knock my socks off before I go find another carrier, but it is nice to know I can drop T-Mo at any moment without an ETF
People who were grandfathered in with true unlimited data aren't affected by this as well, right?
I've been tethering without anything going wrong.
I have the 5GB Grandfathered Preferred Android Data plan for $20 and I've been getting the tethering upsell screen. I heard that the free tethering add-on only comes with the $30 5GB plan or the 10GB plan and that they won't add it on to an Preferred Android Data plan.....
Edit: Called Customer Loyalty and they hooked me up with the free hotspot promo on both lines with Android Preferred Data plans after 2 online reps lied to my face. Customer Loyalty is the reason I stay with TMobile, those people are the best of the best and always help out long time customers. Thank you to all you CL reps out there, I know you're reading this
itmustbejj said:
I have the 5GB Grandfathered Preferred Android Data plan for $20 and I've been getting the tethering upsell screen. I heard that the free tethering add-on only comes with the $30 5GB plan or the 10GB plan and that they won't add it on to an Preferred Android Data plan.....
Edit: Called Customer Loyalty and they hooked me up with the free hotspot promo on both lines with Android Preferred Data plans after 2 online reps lied to my face. Customer Loyalty is the reason I stay with TMobile, those people are the best of the best and always help out long time customers. Thank you to all you CL reps out there, I know you're reading this
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Yeah, they do tend to get you what you want now that the merger dropped. By chance did you ask them it doing that was going to extend your contract? When I did something similar when I had my G1, it ended up locking my service contract for an additional 24 months. My phone upgrade didn't change dates, just my service end date.
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dclaw_fantum said:
Yeah, they do tend to get you what you want now that the merger dropped. By chance did you ask them it doing that was going to extend your contract? When I did something similar when I had my G1, it ended up locking my service contract for an additional 24 months. My phone upgrade didn't change dates, just my service end date.
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It didn't extend my contract, I asked and checked on the website after.
every time i call t-mobile, they keep offering me the hot spot. i let them know i already have it (i dont think it affects GB?) but they insist that i dont. since they are saying i dont have hot spot, does that mean i can use that as an excuse to get out of contract?
siloner said:
every time i call t-mobile, they keep offering me the hot spot. i let them know i already have it (i dont think it affects GB?) but they insist that i dont. since they are saying i dont have hot spot, does that mean i can use that as an excuse to get out of contract?
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.......no

Verizon is out to get us.

Obviously the new data plans following suit of the other carriers in killing unlimited, reducing data costs to Big Red is nothing new. The fact our Thunderbolts have been having all kinds of data drop issues (regardless of ROM) is just evident they're even further making efforts to eff us in our rears. I've been eligible for an upgrade for some time but am obviously holding out to maintain my unlimited.. but now I find myself trying to find a Verizon phone elsewhere (craigs list, ebay, etc) just so I don't have to upgrade via Verizon.
Is it true even if we purchase another phone on our own, in activating it, they'll force the change?
Anyone have any recent ROM/radio recommendations that are stable? I swear, it doesn't matter what I flash, my TB is slowly dying and I the conspiracy theorist in me tells me Verizon has placed some moles in the dev community to eff up our stuff (unlikely but possible).
You will only lose your contract if you use your upgrade with them. You can activate any compatible phone on your current contract without losing any of the features (unlimited data) the only exception being for anyone currently on a 3g device cannot activate a 4g phone.
I am using SkyRaider and average around 5gb a month of data usage and haven't noticed any more data lag or drops than normal.
Wait so if I buy a Verizon phone from CL or Ebay I can use my current plan on my TB?
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Watoy said:
Wait so if I buy a Verizon phone from CL or Ebay I can use my current plan on my TB?
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Yes. I just switched from the thunderbolt to a eBay inc 4g yesterday.
My plan is expired too on month to month. Unlimited forever and no contract.
Actually, their just out to make money, like businesses are supposed to do. Things change. This is actually going to lower my bill because after i get my replacement, im dropping the insurance. Wont need it, buy phones on ebay, keep unlimited. I dont need latest and greatest. Dont like the new galaxy, feels cheap. In another few months, ill pick up a rezound
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Actually, their just out to make money, like businesses are supposed to do. Things change. This is actually going to lower my bill because after i get my replacement, im dropping the insurance. Wont need it, buy phones on ebay, keep unlimited. I dont need latest and greatest. Dont like the new galaxy, feels cheap. In another few months, ill pick up a rezound
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Saying they're out to get us doesn't mean I don't understand their position or their motives, haha. Heck, I'd do the same thing. Glad to hear though that I can still get my own devices and activate under the same plan, that alone can keep me on Big Red so it's much appreciated. I'll also check out SkyRaider, last I tried, I had issues but don't remember what they were. Thanks all.
They aren't 'out to get us'. They just want to give you as little as possible while charging as much as possible. The fact that there isn't competition in the cellular market means no one is fighting for customers. Just wait 2 or 3 years and Verizon will be broken up like AT&T before... If we're lucky that is.
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They are definitely and obviously in the this game for PROFIT, MONEY, DINERO, MOOLAH, etc,......!!!
Look at the hard facts.
Quite eye-opening really, in case you didn't have a real picture as to HOW much they are really making on us while giving us less.
I just don't think I'll ever appreciate them removing Unlimited data. It may help some people.
But It doesn't make things cheaper or better in my situation, but so long as I can buy retail and not ever be forced over, I'll stay.
The day they force me into a new contract after my current one is up, I'm out.
Just thought I'd post that link for their earnings report from this Quarter, as they just released it and it pretty well sums up this thread.
Just talked to Vzn cust serv, they said (for whatever it's worth) that if you upgrade using the disc phone price, you'll be switched over OFF unlimited. To keep unlimited you csn purchase Vzn offered phone at full retail w/out contract, or privately purchase any Vzn compatible phone and activate w/out contract. I asked what stops Vzn in three months from saying "you have no contract with Vzn, buy our new plan or we'll drop you"... She said, nothing stops them from sayinv that, Vzn isn't bound by a contract. Either way, my TB runs so well, I have no problem keeping it another year, maybe two!
Running Thundershed v1.6_CM7.2, imo lean kernel 6.2.1 (#1 normal -undervolted, 184-1408) with the .9 radios... Got 6hrs of uninterrupted use, a few days ago. (Internet, tons of YouTube videos, online games, text/calls, FB, phone gaming, etc. jumping from one to the other) just to see how long it would go. 6hrs 11min with 18% batt life remaining. 15 hrs heavy-moderate use with 29% batt life remaining. This is w/out 4G (not avail here yet) and using Rezound standard batt... Even without the better battery life, the TB works very well in this config, and operates incredibly smooth, and very reliably.
Is it worth running with my smooth TB another year to keep $300 in my pocket and not lose unlimited pkg (upgrade)? Or is it worth keeping $500-600 in my pocket (not paying full retail just to have a newer, slightly better phone)? ABSOFREAKINLUTELY worth it! Well played Quietly Rooted TB, well played.
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How about this thought. I'm on a shared 10GB plan with 3 other phones. I noticed that Verizon made sure that there was NO way to disable that stupid backup service that I can find. So it sounds to me like they're TRYING to make people go over their limited data plan if they can.
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How about this thought. I'm on a shared 10GB plan with 3 other phones. I noticed that Verizon made sure that there was NO way to disable that stupid backup service that I can find. So it sounds to me like they're TRYING to make people go over their limited data plan if they can.
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As long as you are a member of the account online then backup assistant is free every month, and they say it is airtime free.. its only your contacts and its done over cellular ( not data plan ) - i have a dumb phone on my account and they have their backup ( no data )
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They are definitely and obviously in the this game for PROFIT, MONEY, DINERO, MOOLAH, etc,......!!!
Look at the hard facts.
Quite eye-opening really, in case you didn't have a real picture as to HOW much they are really making on us while giving us less.
I just don't think I'll ever appreciate them removing Unlimited data. It may help some people.
But It doesn't make things cheaper or better in my situation, but so long as I can buy retail and not ever be forced over, I'll stay.
The day they force me into a new contract after my current one is up, I'm out.
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I had a recent experience which may shed some light on the situation. I have a TB with unlimited data, but until recently, that was part of a family plan through my parents (for convenience.) Well, without realizing what they were doing, they got manipulated by a VZW salesperson to change their family plan to the bundled data plan - in exchange for two free smart phones and a free hotspot device. Of course, my unlimited plan went byebye as a result. I calmly called customer service the second I heard they had gotten smart phones and explained that there had been a mistake, and that the plan change was supposed to exclude my phone.
Well, the CS person was very helpful, and offered to remove my line from their account, and restore the unlimited data on a new account under my name, at the 2008 (when I had gotten a smartphone originally) single-subscriber price. It barely took any coaxing, and she was quick to offer me that compromise, after I suggested my parents had been purposefully misled (which I am sure they were - I figure the salesperson gets a bonus for every unlimited line he scraps.)
My point? If they still have the ability to create an entirely new account with unlimited data based on prices from 4 years ago, I am sure that they can still renew the unlimited contracts if given a good enough reason. I suppose the trick is coming up with a good reason...
You can keep unlimited data as long as you don't get a new subsidized phone. Pay full price for new phone and you can keep unlimited data.
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You can keep unlimited data as long as you don't get a new subsidized phone. Pay full price for new phone and you can keep unlimited data.
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Yeah that's pretty common knowledge by now I think.
My concern is when will that option end?
Once my current contract is up, there's nothing carved in stone that says they won't change things.
They could very well decide to try and force anyone with a smartphone on their network into a new data plan or simply only offer you voice.
I guess I just wonder how long will they allow grandfathered Unlimited data users to keep that, beyond their contract end date.
Nobody really knows.
I guess ill see first .. I'm on month to month right now with unlimited.
Yep, that's the caveat of unlimited data ; no contract. Technically, 5 minutes after you end your contract by buying a full retail phone, or keeping your existing phone (as I plan to do), Vzn can disconnect you and bill you for 5 minutes Obviously they wouldn't do this, but no contract means no promises.
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razr maxx is old now yet full retail hasnt changed. does anyone sell brand new smartphones at lower prices as they age? best buy certainly doesnt. I prefer not to deal with private sales through ebay or swappa but would deal with amazon or new egg or a well know dealer online. a brick and mortar store would be my preference but it appears they only put phones on sale with a plan, never put brand new no contract phones on sale.
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razr maxx is old now yet full retail hasnt changed. does anyone sell brand new smartphones at lower prices as they age? best buy certainly doesnt. I prefer not to deal with private sales through ebay or swappa but would deal with amazon or new egg or a well know dealer online. a brick and mortar store would be my preference but it appears they only put phones on sale with a plan, never put brand new no contract phones on sale.
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Yeah Verizon's phone prices are high. The Droid Incredible, till the day it was discontinued, costed $549.99 or whatever full retail, even though new Droid Incredibles were going on eBay for half that. And damn, the Droid Charge is $99 with 2 year contract RIGHT NOW. So is the Galaxy Nexus.
If I can talk a rep into giving me unlimited data or rather letting me keep unlimited when upgrading, well I would not be totally against organized bribing, sort of like tips for waiters and waitresses, of course we know that's not happening.
Too bad Verizon doesn't have an S in its name, I, along with everyone else on here would replace that S with a $ so fast...
Hahaha. Yeah. Verizon wirele$$
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http://m.engadget.com/2012/07/31/ve...-10th/?utm_source=engadget&utm_medium=twitter check this out. This is what i have
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F*** Verizon

Hello XDA, i have some sad news for you guys. Well, Verizon's new dumb as F*** policy is when you use your upgrade you areNO LONGER ALLOWED to have unlimited data plan!!!!!! I AM DEPRESSED. WHY VERIZON WHYYYYYYY!
jonah1234 said:
Hello XDA, i have some sad news for you guys. Well, Verizon's new dumb as F*** policy is when you use your upgrade you areNO LONGER ALLOWED to have unlimited data plan!!!!!! I AM DEPRESSED. WHY VERIZON WHYYYYYYY!
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... it's been that way since the introduction of the shared data plans, this is nothing new.
jonah1234 said:
Hello XDA, i have some sad news for you guys. Well, Verizon's new dumb as F*** policy is when you use your upgrade you areNO LONGER ALLOWED to have unlimited data plan!!!!!! I AM DEPRESSED. WHY VERIZON WHYYYYYYY!
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So just buy a nice phone online somewhere. Then your not technical upgrading and keep unlimited data.
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That's why I buy phones of eBay or craigslist with cracked screens or bad LCD. And fix them.. I've never paid more that 150 for a phone.. I have 2 tbolts that I need to fix more and a rezound... I'm never upgrading as long as people are clumsy...Lol
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The Gazelle store on ebay has some nice, gently used phones. It's probably where I'll be getting my next phone from.
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... it's been that way since the introduction of the shared data plans, this is nothing new.
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Yeah, I thought everyone knew this.
To keep unlimited, never use your upgrade, ever.
That said, I think VZW will probably end unlimited completely in the near future.
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That's why I buy phones of eBay or craigslist with cracked screens or bad LCD. And fix them.. I've never paid more that 150 for a phone.. I have 2 tbolts that I need to fix more and a rezound... I'm never upgrading as long as people are clumsy...Lol
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I've bought some really nice ones off eBay, mint condition too. Worked great as soon as they were rooted lol
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Yeah but It is more expensive
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+1 - No everyone knew, My TBolt still on contract till December 1 however I can able keep my unlimited account by buying full retail price of Samsung GSIII and No ETF fee at all! I can't complain!
I did ask one of my buddy who work for Verizon and he said that they will not end unlimited (grandfathered) completely unless you volunteer upgrade eligible or upgrade smartphone replace the current grandfathered phone.
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Yeah, I thought everyone knew this.
To keep unlimited, never use your upgrade, ever.
That said, I think VZW will probably end unlimited completely in the near future.
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Yeah I was looking the other day at phones and just had to ask also. No go for the unlimited on new phone unless you pay full price.
But I knew the answer before I even went in.
I actually went to Verizon yesterday and talked to a guy about the plans.
Yes, Verizon will no longer have unlimited data available to anyone... no matter if you're "grandfathered" in.
However, check your monthly data usage... you might be surprised at how little of data you actually do use each month.
Turns out that when it comes time for me to change my plan, I'll be saving more money from month to month.
This does vary from person to person, though. It's definitely worth looking at.
You can also keep your unlimited data by not renewing your contract and buying a phone from offline somewhere or at full price from Verizon. Just call Verizon and tell them you need to make an ESN swap to active your new phone.
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I actually went to Verizon yesterday and talked to a guy about the plans.
Yes, Verizon will no longer have unlimited data available to anyone... no matter if you're "grandfathered" in.
You can also keep your unlimited data by not renewing your contract and buying a phone from offline somewhere or at full price from Verizon. Just call Verizon and tell them you need to make an ESN swap to active your new phone.
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so, you're saying that ALL unlimited plans will be axed in the future? i've done my own research, and don't want to debate at all either way, but am unsure what you meant in your post.
I heard that u can keep your unlimited but just like he said u will have to pay full price for your phone if u wanna keep it that is what I was told by a vzw rep. I personally burn about 13-14 GB a month so I do not wanna lose my unlimited lol
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bostonbassman78 said:
I heard that u can keep your unlimited but just like he said u will have to pay full price for your phone if u wanna keep it that is what I was told by a vzw rep. I personally burn about 13-14 GB a month so I do not wanna lose my unlimited lol
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that's what i was told by several VZW reps. as well. when i called and spoke to a phone rep., she told me that VZW would never force paying unlimited customers (grandfathered) onto any other plans to continue service. how accurate that is, only time will tell.
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that's what i was told by several VZW reps. as well. when i called and spoke to a phone rep., she told me that VZW would never force paying unlimited customers (grandfathered) onto any other plans to continue service. how accurate that is, only time will tell.
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They better not get rid if it lol I already have 700$ saved for the next nexus whatever and whoever makes it lol
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so, you're saying that ALL unlimited plans will be axed in the future? i've done my own research, and don't want to debate at all either way, but am unsure what you meant in your post.
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They won't get rid of it if you currently have the unlimited data plan unless you renew or sign a contract. Unlimited data is no longer an option with the service plan.
As long as you keep the Verizon service and do not sign into another contract, unlimited data will be with you.
If you want to upgrade to another phone, you'll have to buy it off of the internet from someone or walk into Verizon and pay full price for the phone only... without starting a new contract or plan.
This is the only way you can avoid losing unlimited data.
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They better not get rid if it lol I already have 700$ saved for the next nexus whatever and whoever makes it lol
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yeah, no kidding. my monthly data average is too obscene to be posted here!
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yeah, no kidding. my monthly data average is too obscene to be posted here!
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Lmfao
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You will not be able to change from one phone to another online anymore either.
If you do, it will tell you that changing to this device requires a change to your plan.
If you want to change from the Thunderbolt to... let's say a Galaxy S3, you'll have to call Verizon and talk to a customer service rep. and they will have to change it for you. Just tell them you need to make an ESN swap from the Thunderbolt to the Galaxy S3 and they will have no problem what so ever in changing it over for you without making any changes to your "plan"... even if you don't technically have one and they will not force you into a contract either. *At least not yet* and let's hope it stays that way.
Verizon will not turn down paying customers.
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Does buying a phone at full price, still get coverage by insurance just in case I damage it?
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