uhg. the videoplayer in media hub doesnt support mhl. it seems intentional because it wont even mirror the phone screen, it actually shows it mirrored for a second and displays a mesage that it is not supported.
kinda makes media hub not worth having. why wouldnt samsung just put drm protection on a filetype that plays in the normal video player? this is lame. why would i rent a move to watch on my phone with no possibility of playback on a tv? they'd get many more rentals if it was more flexible this seems more like a way to show off than a practical aplication. i dont think it can stream over dlna either. it would be much more useful if i could use it on a hotel tv when i travel or my home tv with a dock.
come on samsung. we need an update! asap!
Yep, I tried it yesterday as well and it didnt work. Thats very dissapointing. Who wants to buy a movie in media hub but only be able to watch on their phone? If you buy the movie you should be able to watch it wherever you wish....
I really hope someone makes a hack for HDMI mirroring like the Droid x has...
I used with slingplayer. It worked ok, I think it doesn't have the horsepower to get it really smooth. But it was ok. Are the media player files drmed? I'll only use it to spend that $25 credit. I'll probably just copy and rip the movies I buy. Did anybody try other media players/movies?
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I used with slingplayer. It worked ok, I think it doesn't have the horsepower to get it really smooth. But it was ok. Are the media player files drmed? I'll only use it to spend that $25 credit. I'll probably just copy and rip the movies I buy. Did anybody try other media players/movies?
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ya know that's probably it. they are drm'd and in a proprietary format. they probably fear that if you had video capture on a computer you'd get around all that and dont want people ripping their movies.
the on board video player works amazing. dont use 3rd party apps, it supports mkv's and such. plus it putsout 1080p when used with mhl, the screen turns off and it switches to a highres mode and powers the mhl exclusively.
a better solution would have been watermarking the output. so that movies if ripped would have evidence of piracy in which case the user could be reported if they distribute it.
i wonder it that's what the update is about. maybe if we spoof the build.prop it wont force the update and then who knows? that might kill it altogether though and other version might only mirror, not use hi res. maybe there is a way to squash the update, an apk that can be frozen or something?
Samsung's response to me when I inquired
@CYNlKALOPTlMlST: @Samsungtweets @samsungmobileus Why can I not use media hub on my tv? #Infuse4G http://ow.ly/i/brzA
@SamsungMary:
@cynikaloptimist Due to licensing rights from the studios, Media Hub content unfortunately can be played only on Galaxy S devices. Sorry :-/
11:00 AM May 13th via CoTweet
http://twitter.com/SamsungMary/status/69054290928472064
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ya know that's probably it. they are drm'd and in a proprietary format. they probably fear that if you had video capture on a computer you'd get around all that and dont want people ripping their movies.
the on board video player works amazing. dont use 3rd party apps, it supports mkv's and such. plus it putsout 1080p when used with mhl, the screen turns off and it switches to a highres mode and powers the mhl exclusively.
a better solution would have been watermarking the output. so that movies if ripped would have evidence of piracy in which case the user could be reported if they distribute it.
i wonder it that's what the update is about. maybe if we spoof the build.prop it wont force the update and then who knows? that might kill it altogether though and other version might only mirror, not use hi res. maybe there is a way to squash the update, an apk that can be frozen or something?
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hey guys.
this is probably a newbie issue, but i can't seem to get any of the tv players to work with my phone.
i've downloaded the trial to HandiTV, Pocket Live TV, and SPB Online. all HandiTV opens a link to media player, and when media player accesses that link, it closes down without giving an error, and obviously without working. SPB online took forever loading the few channels it had and never got to it. Pocket Live TV either said "error" or "access denied" wih some channels, and with a couple actually said "Playing" but nothing was playing on the screen.
i'm testing with the ActiveSync connection. my goal is to get a program that will let me watch over WiFi as I have free WiFi access at the university and plenty of time to myself between classes so i would like to watch tv in that time :-D
please let me know what i'm supposed to do to get one of them to work! Preferably HandiTV as it seems to have the best selection of channels
thank you!
If I am not mistaken, all of those programs require a subscription to the service they offer...so that may be your problem.
nope, all the ones i'm trying are "demo" or "trial", so i should be able to "try" them before purchasing them. i've been able to get Pocket Live TV so work with some channels, but nothing that i'm interested in watching.
oh well, after reading it seems it's never going to be a true tv watching program as i'll be watching whatever they're sending online. when i originally downloaded the programs i was hoping for something like off-the-air tv reception or something
why dont they make a tv tuner that you can plug into the usb port and then do it that way? i'd pay for that!
EDIT: well apparently they make something similar to "it". I can buy a SDIO tv tuner for about $150 from Hong Kong that will work with the wizard. To get the SD card to work though i'd need a SD-to-mini adapter, so about $200 all said and done and i can have a self-powered tv antenna hooked up to the phone...huh...that'll have to wait!
Anyone had any luck with media sharing via DLNA?
Running the Connected Media App I've not had any success with a PS3 or Google TV (Logitech). I did have some success with a 3rd party app, but the pictures were down-sampled when viewed on the TV (thumbnail res nearly).
In terms of the network, my girlfriend received the Galaxy S2 today, and its AllShare app worked fine with the PS3 (the phone appeared on the PS3 as soon as AllShare was started), although as usual it didn't like the phone's videos being 3GP. (After spending some decent time with the S2 I can't say I prefer one over the other, but I'm seriously looking forward to when I can root this Sensation to uninstall the myriad crapware, plus the S2 allowed uninstallation of Vodafone's apps out of the box, weird).
So I wondered if anyone else has had any success sharing photos or videos to DLNA compatible devices?
My TV is DLNA compatible, although I'm not 100% sure if what I did is DLNA as I don't know all that much about the protocol, so forgive me if I'm wrong.
My TV is connected to my router via an ethernet cable and my Sensation, wirelessly.
With my TV on, I went into gallery, hit menu, select player, it searched and found my TV, I picked it, and then the TV started showing pics in 1080p, was pretty neat.
Even music streaming worked to the TV. I have also successfully got the phone to stream over bluetooth to my cars ICE, with the same method.
I was not able to do any of this with my Galaxy S.
is it possible to dlna to ps3 ???
i thought it doesnt work ??
could you select media from ps3 itself to be shown on tv or did you clicked a file on the phone on galaxy s2 and after that it was shown on tv ???
@alex Good to know, I think my DLNA devices (Google TV and PS3) are a bit too simple, they don't support streaming content to them (like with Apple's AirPlay), but only let you browse the phone's content. It's just weird that the phone wasn't showing up with the Connected Media app running...
Anyway I used DoubleTwist's AirTwist feature and the phone now shows up, I can view photos in full-res, play music, but not video due to the codec used, so that's pretty strange again but at least I have a 3rd party solution.
@B-Man I think so yes, but like Alex I'm not sure how much of this is pure DLNA standard protocols, and how much is proprietary or reverse engineered (like with DoubleTwist's AirPlay support).
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My TV is DLNA compatible, although I'm not 100% sure if what I did is DLNA as I don't know all that much about the protocol, so forgive me if I'm wrong.
My TV is connected to my router via an ethernet cable and my Sensation, wirelessly.
With my TV on, I went into gallery, hit menu, select player, it searched and found my TV, I picked it, and then the TV started showing pics in 1080p, was pretty neat.
Even music streaming worked to the TV. I have also successfully got the phone to stream over bluetooth to my cars ICE, with the same method.
I was not able to do any of this with my Galaxy S.
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Have you tried 1080p video to your TV yet?
is this a app ?? DoubleTwist's AirTwist ??
so you could stream pictures to the ps3 ?? or does the ps3 only finds a media server ??
No, will have to give video a try then report back.
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is this a app ?? DoubleTwist's AirTwist ??
so you could stream pictures to the ps3 ?? or does the ps3 only finds a media server ??
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Yes DoubleTwist is my media player app. AirTwist is a built in feature to enable media streaming across devices.
Another cool feature is AirSync (paid plugin) lets you sync your music, podcasts and playlists with PC/Mac over WIFI.
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Once I get mine, I'll have an interesting test.
I have several 3D streams from various sources in 1080i, 1080p and 720p, SbS and TaB (Side by Side, Top and Bottom) and several DLNA enabled, 3D TVs at work. Will be interesting to see what happens when I playback one of those 3D streams over DLNA to a 3D TV. Will have to see if I can find out how many of them support 3D source over DLNA.
Not obsessed with 3D or anything. Have been working with it since Aug of '09 about 50% of the time at work. Have a US$500k lab setup. Love the source clips I get. 16GB for a two min clip. 8 for left eye and 8 for right eye. 1920x1080 @ 23.97 4:2:2 eats hard disks for lunch.
Just out of curiosity, how is 3D doing in the UK? TV manufacturers here did not get the sales they expected for 3D TV in '10.
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No, will have to give video a try then report back.
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Check this out: http://www.expansys-usa.com/htc-sen...aptor-dg-h100-incl-hdmi-cable+eu-plug-217567/
Looks like there might be a 720p limit on DLNA streaming. Not sure if it's a Sensation limit or DG H100.
I have had success streaming music, photos, and HD video to my Western Digital Live Hub using the connected media application..
I am quite impressed with the quality... Pics come up slow, however video was very good looking...
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mkrl said:
Anyone had any luck with media sharing via DLNA?
Running the Connected Media App I've not had any success with a PS3 or Google TV (Logitech). I did have some success with a 3rd party app, but the pictures were down-sampled when viewed on the TV (thumbnail res nearly).
In terms of the network, my girlfriend received the Galaxy S2 today, and its AllShare app worked fine with the PS3 (the phone appeared on the PS3 as soon as AllShare was started), although as usual it didn't like the phone's videos being 3GP. (After spending some decent time with the S2 I can't say I prefer one over the other, but I'm seriously looking forward to when I can root this Sensation to uninstall the myriad crapware, plus the S2 allowed uninstallation of Vodafone's apps out of the box, weird).
So I wondered if anyone else has had any success sharing photos or videos to DLNA compatible devices?
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Just out of curiosity, how is 3D doing in the UK? TV manufacturers here did not get the sales they expected for 3D TV in '10.
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It's taking a similar path to HD, actually slower IMHO. No-one is really going out of their way to get one yet. Two reasons I can think of:
1. The major 3D TV provider, Sky, charges a lot of money for their packages but has very little 3D content (they already charge £10/mo extra for HD versions of 3 non-FTA channels). PS3 3D gaming is pretty niche.
2. There was a huge push to buy new large HD TVs with the World Cup 2010, literally everyone I know was upgrading their old sets (at this time 3D TVs were still in the early adopter price range). That surely puts a dampner on sales for a while after.
Everyone knows it'll be standard in sets soon, and without loads of compelling content, and still having to wear expensive glasses, there's just not much of a push yet.
I didn't know this existed until I was playing with the music app and noticed the device selection part.
I clicked, and there was XBMC running on my HTPC! And it worked!
I can stream audio and view photos on my new 55in Sony Bravia. Video is in the wrong format - .3gp isn't supported. I tried Twonky for Android and it's only capable of the same photos and audio. I may try to set up a Twonky server and serve the video from the Sensation to Twonky and then use Twonky's transcoding to view it directly on the TV.
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I can stream audio and view photos on my new 55in Sony Bravia. Video is in the wrong format - .3gp isn't supported. I tried Twonky for Android and it's only capable of the same photos and audio. I may try to set up a Twonky server and serve the video from the Sensation to Twonky and then use Twonky's transcoding to view it directly on the TV.
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XBMC had no issues with video either.
I work for T-mobile and attended the launch event in houston and HTC said that DLNA was still being fine tuned for the sensation, don't know if this helps.
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XBMC had no issues with video either.
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My only problem with xbmc is that it supposedly doesn't play nice with Sony dlna.
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I work for T-mobile and attended the launch event in houston and HTC said that DLNA was still being fine tuned for the sensation, don't know if this helps.
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Thanks. If they added hd video format options that included mpeg2 or something other than 3gp it would be nice. The connected media app works well.
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I am also unable to get any media to stream to my google TV, VERY disappointing unless I'm doing something wrong.
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I am also unable to get any media to stream to my google TV, VERY disappointing unless I'm doing something wrong.
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Until recently I was able to output HDMI from my Infuse to my small HD TV. With the latest update to the ATT Live TV bloatware, the ATT Live TV application will not run once an external HDMI cable is attached. I'm greeted with the new message "This application does not support HDMI output. Please unplug the cable" Mobi (the developer) confirmed this is a new "feature"
Thank you ATT. Anyone have any ideas for a workaround? I tried uninstalling updates, but the app just updated itself.
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Until recently I was able to output HDMI from my Infuse to my small HD TV. With the latest update to the ATT Live TV bloatware, the ATT Live TV application will not run once an external HDMI cable is attached. I'm greeted with the new message "This application does not support HDMI output. Please unplug the cable" Mobi (the developer) confirmed this is a new "feature"
Thank you ATT. Anyone have any ideas for a workaround? I tried uninstalling updates, but the app just updated itself.
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Disable automatic updates from the market page for the app, wipe all app data, disable cell data, turn off wifi, uninstall updates, then see if the app still works, then turn data back on. We really need someone to come up with a true mirroring kernel and still somehow support full hd from the video player. Like if we force 1080p res on,the whole ui and mirror that, let the screen,controller down,convert what it needs to. This no hdmi on,custom kernels stuff and apps having say over it's use is ridiculous. I wish there was an,easy way to fix it but the best devs haven't even gotten it working for gb. F-you Samsung!
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Disable automatic updates from the market page for the app, wipe all app data, disable cell data, turn off wifi, uninstall updates, then see if the app still works, then turn data back on. We really need someone to come up with a true mirroring kernel and still somehow support full hd from the video player. Like if we force 1080p res on,the whole ui and mirror that, let the screen,controller down,convert what it needs to. This no hdmi on,custom kernels stuff and apps having say over it's use is ridiculous. I wish there was an,easy way to fix it but the best devs haven't even gotten it working for gb. F-you Samsung!
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Thanks, already tried that. When the Live TV bloatware app calls home to ATT, the program automatically updates to the latest version -- no joy. A low-res video out would be OK with me -- better than nothing.
Sucks - sell HD than cripple phone to kill it. This is only going to get worse since the T-Moble deal was killed -- more pressure on controlling limited bandwidth.
i never used that app anyway. but alot of this stuff has to do with studios and licences, since it is classified as a mobile device there is a different licence for the videos and the studios want to prevent piracy so they put pressure on those that buy the license. it sux but samsung cant use hdmi on there own all share app. if they had the license for non mobile you could output to a tv but not on the phone. its all legal garbage and we let them get away with it. the lod days of plugging in your vcr and recording anything you want are over, what the studios dont realize is they only give people more incentive to pirate by making it harder to share it legitamately amoungst your own devices. it just becomes easier to obtain it from an illegitamate source for free!
if my isp wasnt so ****ty id have a media server transcoding from a tv tuner card and streaming over the internet so that i could access it from anything with an html5 browser (like a slingbox but better). the only reason i dont is cuz i dont have the upload bandwidth.
I had been waiting for the allshare cast dongle, however it is a bit pricey. If I purchase a samsung smart blu-ray player with allshare built in, can I stream netflix from my allshare enabled s3 to the blu ray player and watch it on my tv? Or, does allshare only allow you to share files that are saved on your phone? I come from motorola and I am used to the mini hdmi port on the phone. I understand that I can purchase the mhl adapter, but I would prefer to share via allshare so that I can sit back and play plants vs. zombies or watch netflix from my phone without the bulky wires. Basically I want to know if it allows you to mirror what is on your screen. If I am searching the web or text messaging on my phone, can it be shared via allshare wirelessly through an allshare enabled blu ray player and mirrored on the tv?
bump. Has anyone tried to stream netflix directly to their tv or through a blu ray player from their phone using allshare?
This is really gonna piss Verizon off. I say do it and report back. You may be the first. **** 'em!
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I'd like to know as well, I use the MHL, but it would be nice to go wireless.
I doubt it, and not because it can't be done, but something tells me Netflix wouldn't allow it. Why not tether to your blu ray player and watch Netflix that way? It will look better.
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I do not have the blu ray player, but I was going to buy one depending on the answers I received. I do not watch many blu ray movies but I would have purchased one as opposed to paying 90 dollars for the allshare cast dongle. So basically, allshare does not just mirror what is on your phone screen to the tv? If I can not use allshare to watch netflix or youtube on my tv through a blu ray player then I will just buy the mhl adapter. Allshare is very limited in my opinion if all it allows you to do is watch content that is saved on your device. Is that really the case?
Net flix, hbo go, and similar apps will not allow this to work no matter what hardware your running. On some droids however, the hdmi out cable would work, but bad resolution. Have not tried with Samsung's usb to hdmi, but I'm thinking it's a no.
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All share is just a dlna server.
Get a dlna bluray player and get playon going on your pc. Tether with the phone if thats your internet source.
Playon will stream most anything over dlna including netflix and hulu.
Man, you've been feed a lot of useless information. In case someone else stumbles across this thread and wants some good info:
First, no app "lets" or "won't let" let allshare work. Allshare is also not a dlna server. Apps have no control over allshare, alls apps are mirrored.
Second, I was under the same impressions you, that allshare would allow multitasking, but it doesn't.
So here is the real skinny. All content is mirrored to the secondary screen with (usually) acceptable amounts of delay.
If you are playing solitaire, or reading web pages you won't even care about the delay.
That being said; if you are trying to watch video content or playing fast pased games that require realtime adjustments you will find yourself in one of two cases:
1. Your app supports a second display over allshare. In this case you will find that audio to video will be in sync and you will have an enjoyable experience.
2. Your app does not support a second display over allshare. In this case you will find that your screen and video content ARE displayed over allshare; however, audio and video are not going to be in sync and you will hate your self flr spending $100 on the device.
Netflix, youtube, chrome, and prety much everything accept the video player built into samsung devices all fall into category #2.
you want your content to be in sync you need to use the hdmi dongle or by the docking station for the note (it has 3 usb ports and an hdmi port).
Wrapping it all up:
All share is good for slow paced apps, video with no audio, and video if you put the video on the phone or sd card.
HDMI is required for all other video viewing/gaming purposes.
I have been trying to get this feature to work for a while now, Microsoft has been no help because all of the tutorials involve using media player on desktop win8. The option comes up when you select a music file in windows explorer under the Play tab in the ribbon. It is supposed to allow you to stream to dlna devices or other computers on your network. I have the proper media sharing options enabled on both my win8pro laptop and the surface, but I can not get it to ungrey going either way (play from laptop to surface or surface to laptop). The normal tutorials involve creating a playlist in media player then using the play to option in it, which is still grayed out on my laptop. The surface can see the laptop over the network, and the laptop can see the surface as well.
Later I am going to try turning on the server option in services on the surface and see if that works
Anyone else gotten this to work? It just seems like such a great idea, have your laptop plugged into the stereo and then play stuff to it remotely from your surface. I wish that Microsoft had implemented this as robustly as the play to Xbox option because I don't want to buy an Xbox just to stream music while I have other computers that could do that just as easily.
Make sure the media sharing services are running and permitted through the firewall. Beyond that, I don't know. I've never actually heard of the functionality like you describe - PlayTo is intended for devices (i.e. "not computers" where a Windows RT tablet is a computer, but an Xbox 360 is a device). There are (much) cheaper DLNA receivers than Xbxoes, incidentally.
I use the play to now and again, I stream video files to my DLNA TV. Though I tend to prefer to use my laptop for this due to its support for mp4/mkv files. Just ensure the device ur streaming to comes up in the devices part of the metro settings, and as mentioned, ensure your firewall isn't blocking it.
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Make sure the media sharing services are running and permitted through the firewall. Beyond that, I don't know. I've never actually heard of the functionality like you describe - PlayTo is intended for devices (i.e. "not computers" where a Windows RT tablet is a computer, but an Xbox 360 is a device). There are (much) cheaper DLNA receivers than Xbxoes, incidentally.
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Unfortunately, it has to be a Microsoft-certified DLNA receiver for Metro apps to be able to share to it. There are a bunch of those, but it's not quite as easy as just getting a DLNA receiver. You can use Play To to a non-certified receiver from the desktop though.
For the original poster, to be able to Play To a laptop, you need to enable an option in Windows Media Player and have that open. The option is "Allow Remote Control of my player" under the Stream menu (in WMP12 at least).
@jhoff80: Cool, thanks for the tip, didn't know about that feature!
@Doggydude: Be aware that Windows RT doesn't include Media Player, so it may be unable to receive DLNA. The other direction should, in theory, work after enabling it as jhoff80 suggested.
Thanks for your input guys, I will continue to work on native play to, but courtesy of a pm from neoncell who doesn't have full permissions yet there is an app called play to receiver in the store that should do what I want fairly well.
@jhoff80 I have that option enabled
@feygor I haven't checked if it shows up in devices, il check that out thanks. Both my computers and router's firewall allow it I believe
@gooddaytodie I might look into a receiver, but I'd rather just use existing hardware. My stereo and tv are too old to have even basic internet support. I wish that Microsoft had implemented other device options other than just an Xbox for native media streaming in their music and video apps.
My Samsung TV is not Microsoft certified. Does that mean I need this Play To app/program to stream video from my tablet to my tv? How do I get it?
im fairly sure the answer is no, but does anyone know if it is possible to use the play to feature to send streaming media in a browser to an xbox?
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My Samsung TV is not Microsoft certified. Does that mean I need this Play To app/program to stream video from my tablet to my tv? How do I get it?
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That means you have to do it from the desktop. Right click (tap-and-hold) on the MP3 audio file or MP4 video file that you want to play to your TV, and it should give you the option to Play To, with a callout menu that lists your TV. That will give you a small set of controls to play the video or audio file, with playlist functionality there as well. (Looks like they just pulled the necessary parts from WMP).
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im fairly sure the answer is no, but does anyone know if it is possible to use the play to feature to send streaming media in a browser to an xbox?
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I highly doubt it, you need an app that has the ability to stream.
Microsofts media apps for win8 have xbox streaming built in
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im fairly sure the answer is no, but does anyone know if it is possible to use the play to feature to send streaming media in a browser to an xbox?
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HTML5 video is supposed to work that way, but I've never tried it myself.
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HTML5 video is supposed to work that way, but I've never tried it myself.
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heres to hoping the streamers on firstrowsports start using html5 haha. but honestly, if this is able to be done in browser, I cant get it done on my surface. hmmm....