help watching tv on wm6 - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development

hey guys.
this is probably a newbie issue, but i can't seem to get any of the tv players to work with my phone.
i've downloaded the trial to HandiTV, Pocket Live TV, and SPB Online. all HandiTV opens a link to media player, and when media player accesses that link, it closes down without giving an error, and obviously without working. SPB online took forever loading the few channels it had and never got to it. Pocket Live TV either said "error" or "access denied" wih some channels, and with a couple actually said "Playing" but nothing was playing on the screen.
i'm testing with the ActiveSync connection. my goal is to get a program that will let me watch over WiFi as I have free WiFi access at the university and plenty of time to myself between classes so i would like to watch tv in that time :-D
please let me know what i'm supposed to do to get one of them to work! Preferably HandiTV as it seems to have the best selection of channels
thank you!

If I am not mistaken, all of those programs require a subscription to the service they offer...so that may be your problem.

nope, all the ones i'm trying are "demo" or "trial", so i should be able to "try" them before purchasing them. i've been able to get Pocket Live TV so work with some channels, but nothing that i'm interested in watching.
oh well, after reading it seems it's never going to be a true tv watching program as i'll be watching whatever they're sending online. when i originally downloaded the programs i was hoping for something like off-the-air tv reception or something
why dont they make a tv tuner that you can plug into the usb port and then do it that way? i'd pay for that!
EDIT: well apparently they make something similar to "it". I can buy a SDIO tv tuner for about $150 from Hong Kong that will work with the wizard. To get the SD card to work though i'd need a SD-to-mini adapter, so about $200 all said and done and i can have a self-powered tv antenna hooked up to the phone...huh...that'll have to wait!

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iPhone gets iheartradio for Clear Channel radio. What can WM users do?

Long time WM user that can appreciate the iPhone and iPod Touch ability to listen to ClearChannel radio stations "online". But I don't understand why Windows Mobile is being left out.
If we can watch YouTube videos, certainly we have the horsepower for radio. Does anyone else have this problem? Better yet, have a solution that works? Would love to get my local Sports Radio station on my Touch Cruise, but not even Skyfire works for me.
Well, still no luck. I found a website that tracks radio stations around the US and even internationally, but there is no link to Sports Radio 950 KJR (www.kjram.com) and I can't find a link anywhere else but their own home page, which won't work with Opera or Skyfire.
Currently running one of c_s rom's, which doesn't come with IE. Thought maybe adding IE 6.1 would help, but haven't found a link yet. Anyone know how I can add that to an existing rom?
Off to do more searching, but pretty soon I suppose I should just break down and buy an iPod Touch.
from your Touch Cruise:
www.theStreamCenter.com/pda/
Works in pIE, Opera 8.65 and Opera Mini. Not sure if it needs pIE to actually open the radio station's link though, since it's built into the ROM on my Polaris.
I searched for your station 950 kjr and found it if it's located in Seattle (did not find it when I searched kjr 950 - go figure). However, never got it to connect. Immediately tried a ClearChannel station I listen to and it connected perfectly. Don't know if 950 kjr link is bad or if the station was not broadcasting. Perhaps, it was a blackout due to a game or something like that? Give it a try and see if you have better luck.
ps...
Tried to stream the station on my laptop via the kjram.com website (NOT through streamcenter.com) and it did not work either. Looks like maybe they are having problems at the moment and hopefully it'll work when you try.
Good luck!
Still looking for pIE I can add to my current WM6 rom. The author didn't include pIE as part of the "image". I also tried your link, and in Opera I couldn't find any part of the KJR AM page I could "click" on. So I'm wondering what I'm doing wrong if not just using the wrong browser.
Not having ANY luck and not sure what else to try.
Wunder radio was supposed to come out on January 15th. It supposedly has 50,000 radio stations. I'm hoping clear channel will be part of that.
I can stream clear channel stations through IE on my PC but PIE says it can't do it. Opera Mobile gets close but won't actually play the music.
I can stream some stations that aren't clear channel using Opera, and I can stream NPR after downloading the .asx link and selecting it with TCPMP.
Can't help with how to get pIE on your phone since you are using a ROM without it. All I can tell you is I stream Clear Channel stations (all others too) by going to:
www.thestreamcenter.com/pda
Then searching for the station. Once you find your station you can save it as a favorite and access it much easier.
On the front page of www.thestreamcenter.com/pda it says...
"Clear Channel Stream Announcement:
PDA users can now exclusively access Clear Channel live streams directly from the Mobile Stream Center! (Thanks Bret!). The streams and this announcement are not displayed on desktop PCs."
Clear Channel stations stream via Windows Media Player by default.
No jumping through hoops. Nothing needed that doesn't come built into Windows Mobile by default.
FYI, I am sitting here streaming/listening to your KJR 950 on my phone as I'm typing. Costas is interviewing Matt Cheney regarding drug testing in the NFL...
Good luck!
Okay, so I'm a dork. Had pIE installed and didn't know it, as it was only under the menu and nowhere else.
Started that up, found it's in mobile mode instead of "look like a PC mode" like I think Opera does, and finally saw the links like you mention! Thought I was home free until...
Had some funny language prompting me. Hit one side, and ended up with a save screen. The file saved made a .php file I think, and I can't figure out how to get Window Mobile's Media Player to open it. The other options all didn't seem to do much of anything, and Pocket Streamer on my phone didn't do a .php either!
I'll play some more, as I *think* I'm close... but I'm not there yet.
Got it!
Turned off automatic language detection in pIE, then when I went back to the link, it prompted me to save a .wma file that DOES stream in Windows Media Player. And I've saved the link as a Playlist as well!
Thanks for all the help!!!!
Glad you got something to work!
Just to clarify, the browser needs to be in mobile mode, otherwise the Clear Channel "WMP PDA only" links will not show up. I noticed when I click on a link for a station that streams via mp3, it saves a .pls file to the "My Device\My Documents" folder - but, it happens automatically. I am not prompted and don't have to approve the save. It just saves itself, then starts playing using the TCPMP player. I have not noticed any file - of any type - like that when I play a Clear Channel station. However, it's totally possible it may just save a file of some type somewhere that I have not come across. After clicking the Clear Channel "PDA Only" link, Windows Media Player opens automatically, the stream buffers and then plays. I have not come across any .wma streams to see how that kind works on my phone.
Clearchannel Streaming Utility for Windows Mobile Devices.. Works in IE.. Doesn't seem to work in Opera, though it may be the link I'm providing.. I may possibly work on this and see if I can get it to work in Opera.
http://www.verrigan.net/cchannel.php
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This utility scans the website for the clearchannel stream.. It then gives you the then-current stream URL for that radio station. It should open the stream in Windows Media Player. (in IE.. Not with Opera)
BTW, the utility is not strictly for use on Windows Mobile, but not many other phones use mms URLs for streaming as far as I could tell. It does, however, stream on regular PCs running Windows or Linux (with a MMS stream media player).
if you want most uk radio stations use coreplayer or the htc stream app , head over to www.musicradio.com and choose your favorite radio , note down the url and you get perfect streaming eg for GWR Bristol its http://media-ice.musicradio.com/GWRBristolMP3 LBC is the same address but ends with LBC973MP3Low , if you have an ipod touch or an iphone you can download an app called radio which is poor in visuals but shows the url to the stations which you can type into your streaming app , or in pie head over to pdatuner.com this has all the stations as well but in lower 64 quality
Clear Channel is now blocking themediastream.com from streaming their radio stations?
yup, stay tuned to see if they work it out
just came across this old post, appears to be worked out
Did we ever get this figured out? Most of the Local Stations I listen to are Clear Channel Stations....Do they just not care that there are probably many more WM users out here then Iphone users? Or did they make some sort of exclusive deal with Iphone? I was using the http://www.thestreamcenter.com/pda method for a while and then nothing...it seems like they intentionally don't want WM users to have access to there online stream!
I just fired this email off to the Communications / Media Relations contact at ClearChannel
"To Whom it may concern,
I am just wondering why, it seems, that Clear Channel seems to have abandoned Millions of Windows Mobile users and Welcomed the "Trendy" but yet less used IPhone/Blackberry users? You have embraced and are Pushing the use of "IHeart Radio" on all your radio stations, Yet this program only works on IPhone's and I think Blackberry Phones, So us Window Mobile users are left "Swinging in the Breeze"!
Then when we find a way around your "Lack of Support" by using a website like http://www.thestreamcenter.com/pda and You slap us in the face again and shut down your stream to such websites....What Gives?
I am a loyal listener of at least two of your stations in the Cleveland Area, One FM and one AM station, and when I am not near a radio it would be really nice to be able to hear your show on my PDA, but I am forced to listen to other stations sub-standard programming because you at ClearChannel seem to have an "Issue" with Windows Mobile for some reason! I just read an online news report that stated that IPhone users have up'd your listener base by 15%....I think you will up it much more then that if you included support for Windows Mobile Users!
I apologise for the Rant if I have just missed something and am totally off base about your support for WM, If so please advise me of a program that you know of that does allow us access to your online programming.
If I have to keep going out and finding other Radio Stations that support WM online, then I might find programming that I like and abandon ClearChannel all together, after all why have loyalty to a company that has no loyalty to a large group of it's listeners!"
Well see if I get a response!
2+ months later... no response?
gkenny said:
2+ months later... no response?
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Yea...They responded, Life just got hectic for me and forgot to post their responce here....To sum it up they basically gave me a couple good strokes by saying that they are always looking to improve their product and that the Windows Mobile Platform would definately be in "Consideration" for future versions...blah....blah...blah!
Sorry I did not follow up sooner!
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Never mind... Streamcenter works once again.
Good to know....I'll have to give it a try again!

Google TV Help - from Canada Eh!

Hello,
Wondering if I can get some general help, I know the google TV is american only but I like to have some fun as well.
First, I can't download the google TV Remote app on my samsung galaxy i9000, I've tired downloading an .apk but it just didn't work, any suggestion or how to guides on this.
The Google TV works better than I first though it would in canada I can control my PVR some what and I faked an american comcast zip code and the search feature works some what but of course the programming and channel numbers for comcast don't match my Shaw Cable account, is there any way around that, in the settings I noticed it was pulling that info from some file, any idea how to trick it?
Also I am quite disappointed with the way I can't play almost any media files on my computer, the closest I have come is using my playon media service and the m.playon.tv with my lan on the google chrome but its so bad, was getting some Hulu access if I was running my VPN but I kept getting time out errors, worked fine on my phone browser tho. Any suggestions or other programs or ways?
Forgot to add, I am using the Logitech Revue
Thanks
Dave
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Very much thanks to BluechipJ for sending me the google TV app, worked out great.
So more of the reading I've done seems that this box just doesn't support local media files very well, I've tired a few media servers,
TVersity worked somewhat good, some play back on all files but still couldn't get a great all around experience.
Playon which has been my main media server works the best so far, but only on the mobile side, if you use the browser and go to m.playon.tv and have it setup on your computer you get access to hulu (with VPN) and all your media. Interface is not very good on the m.playon side but it works. Still having problems getting complete hulu playback and have issues with larger MKV files but I had those issues on the PS3 so still have to figure out whats causing it.
If anyone has any other suggestions or experience I'd like to hear some more.
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Just wanted to do one more and see if anyone else had any suggestions, after more reading and trying out some new things finding Twonky is a good media server pick, for both the google tv and your phone.
Whats great about Twonky if they have your Twonky Manger on the computer which Logitech revue will recognize and mainly works in logitech media player, MKV still an issue if you have the right audio code it would work, I've switch to downloading MP4 files as I can still get good quality and it works well.
Also there is Twonky mobile for your phone, works well with the logitech revue as you can play videos music and pictures right from your phone to the TV, the Beam option doesn't work to my knowledge but isn't a big deal to me.
I'm sure lots of people know about Twonky already but it was new to me and worked very well with my Galaxy S and Logitech revue and seems to be a good system, the app is free but Twonky Manger is $20 I think, also works great with a PS3 system as well.
Hope to get some other suggestions or Ideas, kinda weird updating my posts all the time.

tried the mhl adapter and...

uhg. the videoplayer in media hub doesnt support mhl. it seems intentional because it wont even mirror the phone screen, it actually shows it mirrored for a second and displays a mesage that it is not supported.
kinda makes media hub not worth having. why wouldnt samsung just put drm protection on a filetype that plays in the normal video player? this is lame. why would i rent a move to watch on my phone with no possibility of playback on a tv? they'd get many more rentals if it was more flexible this seems more like a way to show off than a practical aplication. i dont think it can stream over dlna either. it would be much more useful if i could use it on a hotel tv when i travel or my home tv with a dock.
come on samsung. we need an update! asap!
Yep, I tried it yesterday as well and it didnt work. Thats very dissapointing. Who wants to buy a movie in media hub but only be able to watch on their phone? If you buy the movie you should be able to watch it wherever you wish....
I really hope someone makes a hack for HDMI mirroring like the Droid x has...
I used with slingplayer. It worked ok, I think it doesn't have the horsepower to get it really smooth. But it was ok. Are the media player files drmed? I'll only use it to spend that $25 credit. I'll probably just copy and rip the movies I buy. Did anybody try other media players/movies?
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I used with slingplayer. It worked ok, I think it doesn't have the horsepower to get it really smooth. But it was ok. Are the media player files drmed? I'll only use it to spend that $25 credit. I'll probably just copy and rip the movies I buy. Did anybody try other media players/movies?
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ya know that's probably it. they are drm'd and in a proprietary format. they probably fear that if you had video capture on a computer you'd get around all that and dont want people ripping their movies.
the on board video player works amazing. dont use 3rd party apps, it supports mkv's and such. plus it putsout 1080p when used with mhl, the screen turns off and it switches to a highres mode and powers the mhl exclusively.
a better solution would have been watermarking the output. so that movies if ripped would have evidence of piracy in which case the user could be reported if they distribute it.
i wonder it that's what the update is about. maybe if we spoof the build.prop it wont force the update and then who knows? that might kill it altogether though and other version might only mirror, not use hi res. maybe there is a way to squash the update, an apk that can be frozen or something?
Samsung's response to me when I inquired
@CYNlKALOPTlMlST: @Samsungtweets @samsungmobileus Why can I not use media hub on my tv? #Infuse4G http://ow.ly/i/brzA
@SamsungMary:
@cynikaloptimist Due to licensing rights from the studios, Media Hub content unfortunately can be played only on Galaxy S devices. Sorry :-/
11:00 AM May 13th via CoTweet
http://twitter.com/SamsungMary/status/69054290928472064
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ya know that's probably it. they are drm'd and in a proprietary format. they probably fear that if you had video capture on a computer you'd get around all that and dont want people ripping their movies.
the on board video player works amazing. dont use 3rd party apps, it supports mkv's and such. plus it putsout 1080p when used with mhl, the screen turns off and it switches to a highres mode and powers the mhl exclusively.
a better solution would have been watermarking the output. so that movies if ripped would have evidence of piracy in which case the user could be reported if they distribute it.
i wonder it that's what the update is about. maybe if we spoof the build.prop it wont force the update and then who knows? that might kill it altogether though and other version might only mirror, not use hi res. maybe there is a way to squash the update, an apk that can be frozen or something?
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[Q] Educate me on renderers and servers and channels for google TV please?

I apologize if this is the wrong forum. I did search for the answer to my questions but I have such a poor understanding of these concepts that it's hard for me to even research. I ask for patience and simple explanations if possible, as my tech savvy level tends to be pretty low.
My parents bought an LG Google Tv (55GT) over the Holidays, finally caving in and buying a nice tv for te first time in my life. They kind of went all out on this one, deciding that for once they just want something that fills all their needs. Sadly it's proving to be incomprehensible on so many levels. Part of it is we have pretty bad internet for streaming, which we knew in advance.
The basics are working for us. Netflix, Amazon, and I even got a workaround for Hulu Plus.
I began looking for media servers to try and stream media from our laptop to the TV, and discovered Plex and Playon, as well as Twonky and the app that led me to this forum, BubbleUpNp.
My understanding so far is that Twonky, Plex, and Playon are merely servers, and that I required a product like Bubbleupnp to recognize and communicate with those servers on the TV. So far so good. Using Bubbleupnp (and I also tried Avia) I was able to see all our running servers, and ultimately I was able to access the media files I had stored on my computer (after messing around a bit, not all of them worked for video, all let me listen to my music)
Enter the problem I am working on now, having conquered all these other issues. All these servers come with great channels I can add on. There are academic channels with lectures, podcasters, tech stations, and on and on. However when I try to play these channels in Bubbleupnp, I get this error:
"bubbleup can be selected only for playing a video to an external renderer (ex: TV) from another ap (ex: file manager)"
Bubbleupnp gives me an option in the screen where I choose which server I want to browse to use a 'local renderer' or 'avia's renderer'. I don't know what this means.
What I am hoping for is someone to explain to me what rendering is, how it works, and how I can fix this issue. My parents would like access to all these cool channels, and I would like to slay my massive frustration with it.
What is a local renderer? Do I need to download a renderer to my tv? to my computer? How? does this have to do with video codecs or translating data into a language the TV can understand?
I would be grateful even to be pointed to something that explains this stuff. I hardly know where to start because my knowledge in it is so pathetic. Please help?

[CLOSED] Getting Rid of Cable TV

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I am looking to ditch my cable TV. I don't want to pay the monthly $90+ for a lousy selection of channels, most of which we either don't watch or that we can stream live online. I watch a lot of pro sports and I am able to stream them from various websites free.
Can anyone suggest how to best set up our 3 household TVs - and with what equipment so that I can make the transition to getting rid of our cable a reality? Currently we simply use HDMI lines to connect a laptop or phone to a TV to stream whatever we want on a big screen. Would it be best to designate 1 device for each TV in order to stream whatever we wish to stream? Would it be best to buy an Amazon fire stick or cube? Or what about a Roku? Apple TV or Google Chromecast?
No idea how to best sort this out. I do know that there are some very inexpensive Internet cable option available these days. For example: XXX
Please advise if you can to assist with this transition. THANKS!
I'd say get an Android TV device like Chromecast with Google TV or those Onn Tv boxes from Walmart for each TV. Since they're just android at the core (fire tv is also but they don't have gapps) you can do a lot more with them and you usually get the extra Chromecast functionality. If you have OTA TV channels nearby, you can get a USB TV tuner and hook it up to a computer or raspberry pi with Plex installed and it'll let you access and record shows from any device with Plex. You'll need to get Plex pass but it's not too expensive. (Not an ad for Plex I just use and like it a lot)
arncap said:
I am looking to ditch my cable TV. I don't want to pay the monthly $90+ for a lousy selection of channels, most of which we either don't watch or that we can stream live online. I watch a lot of pro sports and I am able to stream them from various websites free.
Can anyone suggest how to best set up our 3 household TVs - and with what equipment so that I can make the transition to getting rid of our cable a reality? Currently we simply use HDMI lines to connect a laptop or phone to a TV to stream whatever we want on a big screen. Would it be best to designate 1 device for each TV in order to stream whatever we wish to stream? Would it be best to buy an Amazon fire stick or cube? Or what about a Roku? Apple TV or Google Chromecast?
No idea how to best sort this out. I do know that there are some very inexpensive Internet cable option available these days. For example: https://rivertv.ca/
Please advise if you can to assist with this transition. THANKS!
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I haven't had cable since I lived at home with my parents. I use Netflix, Disney+, and Hulu (through Spotify). I also use the below mentioned setup.
My setup (which I don't condone unless you're a scumbag) is a Raspberry Pi running a Plex server in Docker, connected to an external 8TB HDD. I then have a Nvidia Shield connected to my living room TV and use this to stream all the media I have downloaded on my Plex server. The cool thing about Plex is that you can also connect to your server with phones, tablets, laptops, Firesticks, Rokus, etc. You can also connect to it remotely; I can stream my home server to my work laptop and watch all the Media. With Plex you can also share your "Library" with friends/family. You can create an account for them and give them access.
I don't use Cable TV any more complete on Online streaming for all of my devices.
There is always the Tivimate app on CCwGTV, combined with a (preferably legal) lPTV provider of your choice.
(I normally don't condone piracy, but if you are a person in the world with very limited income, and TV is one of the few things that gives you happiness in tough times of your life, for example, I'd understand why one would do it when the global wealth has been redistributed to the wealthy 1% of the 1%...)
Good luck finding a solution that works out for you.
I only use internet to watch the TV and never used the cable
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arncap said:
I am looking to ditch my cable TV. I don't want to pay the monthly $90+ for a lousy selection of channels, most of which we either don't watch or that we can stream live online. I watch a lot of pro sports and I am able to stream them from various websites free.
Can anyone suggest how to best set up our 3 household TVs - and with what equipment so that I can make the transition to getting rid of our cable a reality? Currently we simply use HDMI lines to connect a laptop or phone to a TV to stream whatever we want on a big screen. Would it be best to designate 1 device for each TV in order to stream whatever we wish to stream? Would it be best to buy an Amazon fire stick or cube? Or what about a Roku? Apple TV or Google Chromecast?
No idea how to best sort this out. I do know that there are some very inexpensive Internet cable option available these days. For example: https://rivertv.ca/
Please advise if you can to assist with this transition. THANKS!
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Have a look at an Android streaming box or as you said a Firestick 4k Max.
Install Kodi and visit https://www.matthuisman.nz/
Matt Huisman is a legend for what he brings the IPTV community. All my TV is via the internet and I couldn't function without Matt's awesome work.
A good place to start anyway.
I'd start with a Chromecast w/Google TV or a NV Shield. If you have a smart TV, it may be OK on its own (my Sony 900e is getting pretty slow compared to an external Chromecast). Easiest solution is YouTubeTV, but the price per month keeps going up. I dropped it when it went above $50/month. I have Prime, Netflix, Peacock, etc
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There is always the Tivimate app on CCwGTV, combined with a (preferably legal) lPTV provider of your choice.
(I normally don't condone piracy, but if you are a person in the world with very limited income, and TV is one of the few things that gives you happiness in tough times of your life, for example, I'd understand why one would do it when the global wealth has been redistributed to the wealthy 1% of the 1%...)
Good luck finding a solution that works out for you.
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My suggestion as well, however streaming from most iptv providers ISNT legal period. They stream illegally to paying people. Buying Tv from the source such as Comcast or Spectrum etc is the only truely legal way of doing so.

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