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Why are you guys putting out so many roms and kernels, I can hardly get any "real" work done on my phone because I'm too busy testing out every new version of every new rom/kernel that comes out. Come on! I need some sleep to.
Well frankly I prefer a buffet where I can choose what I want rather than being told what to eat.
In Soviet Russia, ROM chooses YOU!
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In Soviet Russia, ROM chooses YOU!
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Haha fantastic !
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ITA!
The myriad of ROMs and kernels have turned me into somewhat of a flash addict.. if I'm not flashing something at least a couple times a day my skin starts itching and I begin to twitch.
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ITA!
The myriad of ROMs and kernels have turned me into somewhat of a flash addict.. if I'm not flashing something at least a couple times a day my skin starts itching and I begin to twitch.
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Welcome to the brotherhood my fellow crackflashaholic.
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Well since you guys are soo experienced with different kernals let me ask you this question..
I just got my thunderbolt and I wanna root my phone and overclock it safely to 1.6g. So, which kernel would you recommend? BTW I AM A BIT OF A NOOB!! so please try and keep the terms as "noob friendly" as possibly haha. Thanks guys!
leanKernel supports 1.92 and BAMF will do up to 1.4, I believe.
Do you want sense? Run Perfect Storm roms with bamf kernel.
Do you want aosp? Run cyanogen with imoseyon aosp kernel.
Do you want sense removed? Run blackhole with bamf kernel.
OC to 1.92 I don't suggest, my phone locks up at that speed. OC to 1.4 stable.
magicriggs said:
Do you want sense? Run Perfect Storm roms with bamf kernel.
Do you want aosp? Run cyanogen with imoseyon aosp kernel.
Do you want sense removed? Run blackhole with bamf kernel.
OC to 1.92 I don't suggest, my phone locks up at that speed. OC to 1.4 stable.
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I'm stock, rooted, running bang 4.4.5 kernel, and get 24+hrs from my extended battery (a must-have) might be weird, but I like Sense...
OK, so here's a (useful?) question/request to all you ROM addicts (I am not one, unfortunately!):
Is there (it would be nice if there was) a comparison of ALL kernels and ROMs to see which gets the best battery life on their Thunderbolt?
This would, obviously, have to be done by one person trying out different combinations of kernels and ROMs, as everyone has different usage patterns (and different batteries!! --each battery, it seems, behaves differently).
But I think it would be very helpful for many of us folks to have a good, consistent, complete, at least somewhat accurate comparison, as the battery issue seems to be probably the single largest issue affecting the most people with the TB.
Anyone?
Why do you need to overlook to 1.6? For being a noob, that's rather aggressive
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1027706
read read read!
noob question - what does s-off mean?
also, what advantages are there to removing sense?
Just a holdover until CM7 is fully working.
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noob question - what does s-off mean?
also, what advantages are there to removing sense?
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S-off means security is turned off on your phone. This will allow you to install whatever ROM you want to the phone.
ooohhhh
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Just a holdover until CM7 is fully working.
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This i can't wait for!
I might root and then hang by until the CM arrives. Only had my Bolt about 10 days now, and want to see it in action untouched, (but also minus these bad network connections), if CM7 is indeed close i'm going to wait for it.
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This i can't wait for!
I might root and then hang by until the CM arrives. Only had my Bolt about 10 days now, and want to see it in action untouched, (but also minus these bad network connections), if CM7 is indeed close i'm going to wait for it.
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CM is here. They have some WIFI and 4g problems but other than that the ROM is complete.
Well my Vibrant has been replaced on a warranty exchange with a Sensation! I loved my Vibrant, but am looking forward to this device.
Just curious if there is anything i need to know about the phone? Pro's Con's.. quirks.. whatever..
It's probably the best phone available on T-mobile right now, other then the HTC Amaze 4G
welcome to world of frustration. Where you would curse the poor battery life, and wonder while using internet or making a call that why device is heating up so much...
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welcome to world of frustration. Where you would curse the poor battery life, and wonder while using internet or making a call that why device is heating up so much...
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funny, my sensation doesn't go over 38 Celcius with overclocked (1.89Ghz) CPU's...
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funny, my sensation doesn't go over 38 Celcius with overclocked (1.89Ghz) CPU's...
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Are you using wifi while browsing? Try use mobile data, than see how much temperature you get.
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The sensation is seriously the best phone I've had. As far as battery life goes, please read through certain posts on the forum on how to increase your battery life. I am using MIUI 1.11.18 ROM with Bricked 1.6 beta 1 Kernel and I have been getting incredible battery life. Having said that, I also use other tools like FauxClock to actually underclock the processor and Juice Defender to improve battery life even more. I'm certainly no techie but reading through these forums has helped me immensely. I can't recommend enough you research the right steps in order to improve your battery life.
how do you like it?
i too am getting a Sensation as a replacement for my vibrant. its not here yet, so just reading up until it gets here.
is this link really the easiest/best way to get the stock phone ready to flash custom roms and kernels?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
any suggestions on what to read up on?
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welcome to world of frustration. Where you would curse the poor battery life, and wonder while using internet or making a call that why device is heating up so much...
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Ended up giving to my wife since I am getting an SGS II but she is getting amazing battery life. Well compared to her G2 that wouldn't make it through a day she now makes it minimum of 12 hours.. that's good for a powerhouse device.
kboater said:
i too am getting a Sensation as a replacement for my vibrant. its not here yet, so just reading up until it gets here.
is this link really the easiest/best way to get the stock phone ready to flash custom roms and kernels?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
any suggestions on what to read up on?
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Dude i just used the guid in the development section. Followed it step by step
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
and flashed http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098849 since it looked to be close to stock with all of the mods i was looking for.
Good luck
Well the thing is I don't know wich kernel to pair up with Hellfire Phoenix 2.1 so far it's what I have liked the most.
The stock kernel gives funky battery readings, I tried trinity ELP kernel but my phone doesn't last much as I'd like it to maybe I'm asking for too much from my g2x.
So what I would like to know is what kernel should I try for the best battery lifespan I am normally using 4g with pandora but while giving it this use and texting from time to time /checking facebook it doesn't last me through half a day I start using the phone from around 6-6:30 Am and by 1 pm my phone is at 20%. I give it breaks of around 1-3 hours in wich I disable data/ I also keep sync and wifi disabled.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated and +Thanks will be given to those that are helpful
PS.I have yet to try Eaglesblood 2.3.7 is it worth compared to hellfire ?
Using data on the phone like Pandora and Facebook for one hour will drop my battery about 15-20% on 4g so, 5 hours worth is about normal in my opinion if you plan on doing that all the time I suggest extra batteries or extended. You're simply asking too much IMO!
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Using data on the phone like Pandora and Facebook for one hour will drop my battery about 15-20% on 4g so, 5 hours worth is about normal in my opinion if you plan on doing that all the time I suggest extra batteries or extended. You're simply asking too much IMO!
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Thought so "( Either way With what Kernel could I get the best out of hellfire phoenix 2.1? Also I'm confused on some things like with the trinity ELP kernel it says it's 1.1ghz/UC does that mean it is undervolted while being overclocked by 100mhz (just making sure) also in CM settings I have the option of setting the cpu speed.. now if I set it lets sayy 750mhz is it also undervolting it?
I'm sure I don't need 1ghz for the use I give it most of the time I could just change it back when I
m in the mood for gaming or does this scale depending on the task?
Sorry for so many questions I'm still new to this and I want to be sure of everything
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Thought so "( Either way With what Kernel could I get the best out of hellfire phoenix 2.1? Also I'm confused on some things like with the trinity ELP kernel it says it's 1.1ghz/UC does that mean it is undervolted while being overclocked by 100mhz (just making sure) also in CM settings I have the option of setting the cpu speed.. now if I set it lets sayy 750mhz is it also undervolting it?
I'm sure I don't need 1ghz for the use I give it most of the time I could just change it back when I
m in the mood for gaming or does this scale depending on the task?
Sorry for so many questions I'm still new to this and I want to be sure of everything
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I'd say either the kernel you have now or Faux UV version... look up the thread that shows "how to undervolt" (or something close) and go that route if you truly want to get the best battery life (I don't undervolt as I get the battery I need for my daily activities.)
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I'd say either the kernel you have now or Faux UV version... look up the thread that shows "how to undervolt" (or something close) and go that route if you truly want to get the best battery life (I don't undervolt as I get the battery I need for my daily activities.)
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So Faux123 Kernels are the ones people use the most for what I've seen.
I'm not sure wich faux kernel I have It says 2.6.32.56 CM7 Faux123-049, I checked the thread and latest is 0.48 soo I'm a bit lost there
I've also seen some people say they prefer the trinity kernel because it was released later.
I've tried both the stock Faux that comes with hellfire and the trinity I do not see any difference whatsoever in battery life or stability ( trinity does score significantly higher on benchmarks)
I could careless about benchmarks haven't ran one since I got this phone and oc'ed it to 1.5 to see what would happen... other wise they are just options some of our phones can't handle certain kernels... play with them and see which you like more. My only advice is faux cm version lol ds causes the funky readings.
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faux 049b5 is for ICS roms, 048 is for GB roms. Don't mix them up or rom won't boot.
Doing anything on 4g will drain your battery much faster. If you can switch to 2g/3g networks while not using data, it can save a lot of battery power. Try Juicedefender ultimate also. It helps in toggling/switching options for you.
Every phone is different plus everyonez preferences/usage are unique. Best bet is to try both for a week or so and then decide for yourself.
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faux 049b5 is for ICS roms, 048 is for GB roms. Don't mix them up or rom won't boot.
Doing anything on 4g will drain your battery much faster. If you can switch to 2g/3g networks while not using data, it can save a lot of battery power. Try Juicedefender ultimate also. It helps in toggling/switching options for you.
Every phone is different plus everyonez preferences/usage are unique. Best bet is to try both for a week or so and then decide for yourself.
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I am not mixing anything Up that was the information given my kernel information in the about phone section what I wish to know wich faux kernel I actually have.
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I am not mixing anything Up that was the information given my kernel information in the about phone section what I wish to know wich faux kernel I actually have.
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If your running the stock kernel on hfp you have 049b1ds
Pin it to Win it.
I.R.Chevy said:
If your running the stock kernel on hfp you have 049b1ds
Pin it to Win it.
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Should be 48b 49 is only ICS I thought.
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Anyways I flashed the 1.1ghz/UV Faux it's working with no problems so far I'll stick with this unless it gives me any kind of problem. I will look forward on getting me one of those 3500mah batteries Price/performance they seem worth it though the phone would be fat haha but w.e I like using my data without worrying of low battery through the day.
This is unrelated but just throwing it out there. The Camera ICS+ works great I see an improvement in picture quality compared to the stock and the interface is lovely
Have you not been reading anything on any of these forum's?
I know your new to this ( as you stated) but you keep asking questions that can easily be answered by just searching and reading the forums,
i keep trying to help you by (doing the searching for you) but you just keep asking the same questions over and over,
you have like at least three different forums were you keep asking about kernal's ( and in several of them i have giving you links that should answer just about every thing you need to know about kernals) if you would actually just read them.
Im not trying to flame you... its just that you keep making new threads asking pretty much the same stuff, we can tell if someone is taking the easy way out and just saying that "they searched and didn't find any thing"
the people on here that would actually help you out, know better.
because they read the forums just about every day so we know how many forums that are out their, on subjects such as kernals, like the 3 threads you started asking about them.
so again read and most of your questions will be answerd...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1073626
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1389069
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1558080
He's right only reason I answered and didn't reply in this manner, was cause you typed out so much and I felt bad for you lol... If you answer I don't have time to read and such, then you shouldn't even have time to root the device. Laziness is pretty frowned upon on XDA. The more you read the more you would find out that everyone has different experiences with kernels. Try them out and figure it out on your own... if you have thread already about a kernel or a specific rom to choose stick to that thread and don't make a new one, as it just causes clutter for people that do use the search function, as when they search for something like "which kernel" they get
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1594216&highlight=which+kernel
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1558080&highlight=which+kernel
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1586616&highlight=which+kernel
even more particular in the Hellfire 2.1 thread search "which kernel" and get this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=11147041
not so hard!
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if you have thread already about a kernel or a specific rom to choose stick to that thread and don't make a new one, as it just causes clutter for people that do use the search function
not so hard!
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He has this one...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1594690
and this one...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1588657
and even this one...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1587055
:banghead:
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you have like at least three different forums were you keep asking about kernal's...
...just about every thing you need to know about kernals...
...on subjects such as kernals...
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ugh please, before i kill myself... its kernel... not kernal *shivers*
its a HUGE pet peeve of mine...
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Should be 48b 49 is only ICS I thought.
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http://rootzwiki.com/topic/1654-g2x...oofeb-14/page__st__190__p__471877#entry471877
Faux has 049 for CM7 according to above link, which is baked into HFP 2.1.
Klathmon said:
ugh please, before i kill myself... its kernel... not kernal *shivers*
its a HUGE pet peeve of mine...
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zechizen said:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/1654-g2x...oofeb-14/page__st__190__p__471877#entry471877
Faux has 049 for CM7 according to above link, which is baked into HFP 2.1.
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048 is cm and ds drivers but 049 is only availible in ds driver for GB
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Well the thing is I don't know wich kernel to pair up with Hellfire Phoenix 2.1 so far it's what I have liked the most.
The stock kernel gives funky battery readings, I tried trinity ELP kernel but my phone doesn't last much as I'd like it to maybe I'm asking for too much from my g2x.
So what I would like to know is what kernel should I try for the best battery lifespan I am normally using 4g with pandora but while giving it this use and texting from time to time /checking facebook it doesn't last me through half a day I start using the phone from around 6-6:30 Am and by 1 pm my phone is at 20%. I give it breaks of around 1-3 hours in wich I disable data/ I also keep sync and wifi disabled.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated and +Thanks will be given to those that are helpful
PS.I have yet to try Eaglesblood 2.3.7 is it worth compared to hellfire ?
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ELP voltages are probably too low for you, thus actually causing higher drain. Try the T15 and under volt until you find your sweet spot
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good morning,
i'm quite new on this phone even if It works fine for me with a stock rom 4.0.4 I would you like to understand if there is a good advantage to pass on a custom rom.
Please share with me your experience and answer with my few questions:
what kind of custom rom and kermel you have on?
which is the difference there is in term of battery life; performance; stability.
Thanks for your help
Welcome to the Nexus ... you're going to love this phone. With that said, you need to jump in and do some reading. There is no shortage of opinion on which rom, kernel, or even GB vs ICS ... is best. It very much depends on your likes, dislikes, etc. I assume that you have a gsm device, so make sure to flash the appropriate roms, kernels, etc. Lastly, there is lots of help available, but it's always best if you dig in and bring yourself up to speed with what's already been posted in these great forums. Good luck!
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Welcome to the Nexus ... you're going to love this phone. With that said, you need to jump in and do some reading. There is no shortage of opinion on which rom, kernel, or even GB vs ICS ... is best. It very much depends on your likes, dislikes, etc. I assume that you have a gsm device, so make sure to flash the appropriate roms, kernels, etc. Lastly, there is lots of help available, but it's always best if you dig in and bring yourself up to speed with what's already been posted in these great forums. Good luck!
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thanks mate,
after few weeks i tested it, i find this phone a very good one and I don't feel the need to jump in a custom rom. I rooted it, installed a busybox and the clockwork and I added some apps to eliminate some gaps like the missing notification when the screen is off (I installed the noled apk for it) or like a switch off or switch on of the screen using the power button (I used an apps called accendi scermo and I switch on and off the screen using the phone sensor). The only thing that miss on this phone is an fm radio offline. I'm still searching a solution.
Stock rom: more stable, less features
Custom rom: less stable, more features
Well if you want to be normal. Than good for you.
Now a custom rom and kernel can give you unlimited privilages to things you can never imagine possible. Undervolting your device to give you brain blowing battery life or over clocking to give you awesome graphics.
A custom rom like CM9 or AOKP (there are way more than two but im just listing the popular ones) is of course better than stock since... well if it wasnt why would they make it. A kernel links your hardware to your software, meaning you can do some tweaking in the middle. If you find the right kernel and rom mix you can have a wopping 15 days standby on your battery (eg CM9 and Matr1x Kernel).
Now thats just the basics. if you are interested and want more information. Just do a bit of research and reading in this forum and ask questions in those forums. Hope this helps.
ics 4.0.4 stock+ simple or thalamus kernel
Or Bugless Beast with one of those kernels
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Well if you want to be normal. Than good for you.
Now a custom rom and kernel can give you unlimited privilages to things you can never imagine possible. Undervolting your device to give you brain blowing battery life or over clocking to give you awesome graphics.
A custom rom like CM9 or AOKP (there are way more than two but im just listing the popular ones) is of course better than stock since... well if it wasnt why would they make it. A kernel links your hardware to your software, meaning you can do some tweaking in the middle. If you find the right kernel and rom mix you can have a wopping 15 days standby on your battery (eg CM9 and Matr1x Kernel).
Now thats just the basics. if you are interested and want more information. Just do a bit of research and reading in this forum and ask questions in those forums. Hope this helps.
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Thanks x your answer. You gave a good view. As sono i find ti me i Will try a custom rom with a kermel
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TigaTiger said:
If you find the right kernel and rom mix you can have a wopping 15 days standby on your battery (eg CM9 and Matr1x Kernel).
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I want 15 days standby! lmfao maybe a day at most if I'm at home with my wifi on and airave all day...
Lol
Lol. Wtf is the point in having a smartphone if you aren't going to use it?
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Lol. Wtf is the point in having a smartphone if you aren't going to use it?
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Haha that's the problem! I use it too much! Lmfao
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Haha that's the problem! I use it too much! Lmfao
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Yeah.... well, I have to use 2 even 3 batteries for day as heavy usage...
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I'm fixing a phone for someone. At first it was stock and crashed very often about once every 10 minutes of use, so I flashed cyanogenmod but the battery life is much worse. I just need a good stable battery efficient ROM and the other features like ICS don't matter much. Any suggestions?
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I'm fixing a phone for someone. At first it was stock and crashed very often about once every 10 minutes of use, so I flashed cyanogenmod but the battery life is much worse. I just need a good stable battery efficient ROM and the other features like ICS don't matter much. Any suggestions?
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Try them, and find out for yourself. Everyone seems to get different results, different preferences and different usage of the device.
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Try them, and find out for yourself. Everyone seems to get different results, different preferences and different usage of the device.
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The problem with that is that I'm not using the device so I can't test out several roms during the day and find out what has good battery life.
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The problem with that is that I'm not using the device so I can't test out several roms during the day and find out what has good battery life.
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Then just leave the phone off?!? That's the best battery saving rom EVAH!
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The problem with that is that I'm not using the device so I can't test out several roms during the day and find out what has good battery life.
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I didn't ask what's the most stable, battery efficient ROM on SGSII forum when my friend gave me a day. Flash a ROM, give it to your friend and see what he thinks of it, then if he doesn't like it then flash another ROM.
It's all about preference, you might like SCOM ROM (GB) but your friend might prefer CyanogenMod9 (ICS) more. But if your really looking towards battery life go for Gingerbread ROM.
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I didn't ask what's the most stable, battery efficient ROM on SGSII forum when my friend gave me a day. Flash a ROM, give it to your friend and see what he thinks of it, then if he doesn't like it then flash another ROM.
It's all about preference, you might like SCOM ROM (GB) but your friend might prefer CyanogenMod9 (ICS) more. But if your really looking towards battery life go for Gingerbread ROM.
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You guys really can't just tell me what works for you or what you had experience with? I already tried to help once and it takes weeks before this person has free time to give me their phone to try and fix it again.
It's not like this phone has different hardware from all the rest of the galaxy s 4g's and they are dependent on the phone. They should all work the same so it shouldn't be such a big deal to ask for some measly suggestions.
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You guys really can't just tell me what works for you or what you had experience with? I already tried to help once and it takes weeks before this person has free time to give me their phone to try and fix it again.
It's not like this phone has different hardware from all the rest of the galaxy s 4g's and they are dependent on the phone. They should all work the same so it shouldn't be such a big deal to ask for some measly suggestions.
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Not everyone is going to get the same results from the same rom. It all depends on your usage.
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gregcapps said:
Not everyone is going to get the same results from the same rom. It all depends on your usage.
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Please state with reasons and what variables there are and what the tradeoffs are or you are talking out of your ass. Of course people's usages vary, but if you keep your usage constant while changing roms like you typically would or have a composite number than your can compare roms for battery life.
It's seriously not that hard to quantify which roms last longer on battery. This is ridiculous.
If it's that easy to you (may be?), do the testing and post the results. Document and publish your methodology so it can be peer reviewed. Please keep it up to date as ROMs are updated.
I look forward to your findings.
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I just told you that gingerbread roms have great battery life.
There is no definitive answer bro. I dont get the same battery life as jeffsf or FBis251 on AOKP. And neither one of them get the same battery life. It really does depend on each phone and the users habits of use.
Im going ahead and reporting this thread because the community here dislikes these threads. They never end well and you have POHR people being belligerent .
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There is no definitive answer bro. I dont get the same battery life as jeffsf or FBis251 on AOKP. And neither one of them get the same battery life. It really does depend on each phone and the users habits of use.
Im going ahead and reporting this thread because the community here dislikes these threads. They never end well and you have POHR people being belligerent .
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As I've said before, usages vary but it's pretty reasonable to think that some people have used a few roms while keeping their usage constant. What makes it frustrating is that the people on this thread spew some faux wisdom that it's impossible to compare which it isn't.
I've had pretty good battery life so far with HebMIUI when it comes to ICS. Of course, GB ROMS such as Valhalla Final, Valhalla Black, and Octane are known for the excellent battery life.
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All of this is far too subjective. Try them and make your own decision.